Clueless, over The Hill Outlaws - OP Updated 06/10/14

[krenkme]

Stinger
Based on the Chevy Corvette Convertable (C1) '54

460hp
500pp
weight 1509Kg

parts
Oil Change
PDI P525N wheels painted Fathom Blue Metallic
Paint car TESLA MULTI-COAT Red
Sport Hard Tires
Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
Fully Custom Transmission
Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
Triple Plate Clutch
Carbon Drive SHAFT
Stage 3 engine tuning
Sport Computer
Racing Exhaust
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Intake Tuning
Supercharger

ABS = 1
everything else off

Tune
Ride Hight - Front: 120 Rear: 130
Spring Rate- Front: 9.90 Rear: 6.40
Compression- Front: 2 Rear: 1
Extension- Front: 4 Rear: 3
Anti-roll Bars- Front: 5 Rear: 3
Camber- Front: 1.6 Rear: 2.2
Toe Angle- Front: -0.20 Rear: 0.11
Brakes- Front: 7 Rear: 4

Gearing
Final Gear 5.500
Top Speed - 87
1st - 2.699
2nd - 1.951
3rd - 1.620
4th - 1.370
5th - 1.142
Final - 2.500

LSD - 12/15/20

Power Limit - 97.8%

Weight Adjustment - 200@ 50

TUNER NOTES -
This was going to be my entry into the FITT Shootout, but I could not tame it the way I wanted it . That being said, it is still a quick, fun, deadly car

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[krenkme]

That'll be made when I get to play .

I hope you enjoy it 👍 I hope to have a few more muscle to post today, and a Lotus...but we shall see

 

[danbojte]

Clueless over The Hill Outlaws
"Chevy Camaro Z28 '69 500pp SH"

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Source and Parts list:
Buy from: Chevrolet(change oil)
Paintjob: Hugger Orange
Wheels: aftermarket
aero : type b I think...its the body color one
Downforce: 20
Weight Reduction: stage 3
Window Weight Reduction: yes
Carbon Hood: yes
Chassis reinforcement: no
Turbo: no
Sports cpu: yes
Engine Tuning: no
Intake tuning: no
Exhaust Manifold: yes
Catalytic Converter: no
Exhaust: Race
Transmission: FC
Clutch/flywheel: Triple Plate Clutch
Carbon Drive Shaft: yes
LSD: yes
torque assist center differential: na
Suspension: FC
Tires: SH
Suspension
Ride height front 110, rear 110
Spring rate front 8.22, rear 5.28
Dampers (Compression) front 4 rear 6
Dampers (Extension) front 6 rear 5
Anti-roll bars front 4 rear 4
Camber angle front 0.0 rear 0.0
Toe angle front 0.00 rear .12
Brakes: stock fr 3 rr 2
LSD
rear = initial 8, acceleration 10, braking 14
Transmission
set max speed to 112 mph
1st: 4.020, 2nd: 2.775, 3rd: 2.128, 4th: 1.635, 5th: 1.698, 6th: 1.384
final: 2.850

The Tune
Ballast weight : 0/0
Power Limiter : 100%
Transmission: Manual
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
The car has 500 PP, weighs 1174Kg with a 54/46 front/rear weight
distribution, has a power to weight ratio of 3.14 kg/hp, has 373 HP
@6500 rpm and produces 346 ft-lb torque @4500 rpm
Notes:

Tuned for FITT shootout at Laguna Seca

ENJOY, AC

Corrections:

aero : type b I think...its the body color one
Rear Wing: Custom Type A
Window Weight Reduction: yes
Carbon Hood: yes
1st: 4.020, 2nd: 2.775, 3rd: 2.128, 4th: 1.635, 5th: 1.698, 6th: 1.384

 

[basswerks1]

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI RS T.M.Edition '00 "Grun"
Yes I'm using a German name for a Japanese car, but let's leave that aside for now. Named after Grun Squadron of Ace Combat Zero, this Evo VI is every bit as adaptable as the squadron it's named after. This car has proven to be very potent at various tracks, and with its gearbox tuned for acceleration, it'll blitz pretty much anything that is not a GT-R on circuits like Matterhorn.

Source and Parts list:
Buy from: Dealership
Oil Change: No

Paintjob: GT6 Matte 13
Wheels: RAYS RE30

aero : Type A Aero Kit

Weight Reduction: Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction: Yes
Carbon Hood: Yes
Chassis reinforcement: No

ECU Tuning: No
Engine Tuning: Stage 3

Intake Manifold: Yes
Exhaust Manifold: No
Catalytic Converter: No
Exhaust: Racing

Turbo: High-RPM

Transmission: Yes
Clutch: Triple Plate
Carbon Drive Shaft: Yes
LSD: yes

Suspension: FC

Tires: SS

The Tune
Ballast weight : --
Power Limiter : 100%
Aero: 0/00
Transmission
Top Speed: 112, Final Gear: 3.000
1st: 3.486
2nd: 2.604
3rd: 2.110
4th: 2.745
5th: 1.415
6th: 1.139

Approximate Top Speed: 170mph
LSD
Initial: 5/8
Acceleration: 13/20
Braking: 5/5
Torque Distribution
35/65

Suspension
Ride height: 85/85
Spring rate: 5.25/5.80
Dampers (Compression): 4/4
Dampers (Extension): 5/5
Anti-roll bars: 3/4
camber: 2.0/1.5
Toe angle: -0.20/0.08
Brake balance: 6/5

ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
tuned with a DS3

The car has 550 PP, weighs 1030Kg with a 58/42 front/rear weight
distribution, has a power to weight ratio of 2.14 kg/hp, has 480hp/7100rpm and produces 385 ft-lb torque/5100rpm

Notes:

Is there something wrong with fourth gear.? Mine only goes up to 1815
Thanks

 

[krenkme]

"Top Load"
Based on the Chaperral 2J '70

991hp
694pp
weight 852Kg

parts
Oil Change
Racing Hard Tires
Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brakes
Fully Custom Transmission
Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
Racing Exhaust
High RPM Turbo

ABS = 1
everything else off

Tune
Ride Hight - Front: 50 Rear: 50
Spring Rate- Front: 9.00 Rear: 11.50
Compression- Front: 3 Rear: 3
Extension- Front: 4 Rear: 4
Anti-roll Bars- Front: 2 Rear: 1
Camber- Front: 1.8 Rear: 2.0
Toe Angle- Front: -0.12 Rear: 0.10
Brakes- Front: 5 Rear: 5

Gearing
Forgot how I got these nubers but....
Max speed 217
1st- 1.130
2nd- 0.820
3rd - 0.640
Final Gear- Oh soon

LSD - 12/15/10

Weight Adjustment - 31@ -35

TUNER NOTES -
Introductory tune to the washing machine

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[krenkme]

"uN-NamED"
Based on the Pontiac Tempest La Mans GTO '64

432hp
500pp
weight 1420Kg

parts
Oil Change
PDI P525N wheels painted GT CHROME 010-W
Paint car TESLA MULTI_COAT Red
Sport Hard Tires
Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brakes
Fully Custom Transmission
Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
Triple Plate Clutch
Carbon Drive SHAFT
Stage 2 engine tuning

ABS = 1
everything else off

Tune
Ride Hight - Front: 110 Rear: 115
Spring Rate- Front: 10.00 Rear: 5.00
Compression- Front: 2 Rear: 1
Extension- Front: 3 Rear: 4
Anti-roll Bars- Front: 4 Rear: 1
Camber- Front: 1.5 Rear: 1.0
Toe Angle- Front: -0.20 Rear: 0.12
Brakes- Front: 7 Rear: 4

Gearing
Final Gear 5.500
Top Speed - 99
1st - 2.349
2nd - 1.690
3rd - 1.400
4th - 1.170
5th - 0.970
Final - 3.570

LSD - 12/15/15

Weight Adjustment - 0@ 0

TUNER NOTES -
Another tune that was for the FITT Shootout. Sad it was so "wild" and slow

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[krenkme]

Lotus Esprit V8 '02 Experimental Vol. 1
Based on the Lotus Esprit V8 '02

852hp
600pp
weight 1478Kg

parts
Oil Change
Front Aero type A
Rays TE37 inch up:1 wheels painted Andradtgrun
Paint car Black Raven
Sport Soft Tires
Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
Fully Custom Transmission
Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
Triple Plate Clutch
Stage 3 engine tuning
Sport Computer
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Intake Tuning
High RPM Turbo

ABS = 1
everything else off

Tune
Ride Hight - Front: 95 Rear: 100
Spring Rate- Front: 7.00 Rear: 9.00
Compression- Front: 3 Rear: 3
Extension- Front: 5 Rear: 3
Anti-roll Bars- Front: 3 Rear: 5
Camber- Front: 1.2 Rear: 0.5
Toe Angle- Front: -0.15 Rear: 0.15
Brakes- Front: 6 Rear: 5

Gearing
Final Gear 5.500
Top Speed - 124
1st - 2.510
2nd - 1.800
3rd - 1.400
4th - 1.160
5th - 0.985
Final - 3.275

LSD - 12/9/20

Weight Adjustment - 98@ -50

TUNER NOTES -
Still not quite happy with this one, but it can surprise some... and disappoint others

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[krenkme]

"?"
Based on the Chevy Corvette Stingray Racer Concept '59

413hp
500pp
weight 1267Kg

parts
Oil Change
Sport Hard Tires
Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brakes
Fully Custom Transmission
Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
Triple Plate Clutch
Carbon Drive SHAFT
Stage 2 engine tuning
Semi-Racing Exhaust

ABS = 1
everything else off

Tune
Ride Hight - Front: 80 Rear: 90
Spring Rate- Front: 8.00 Rear: 7.00
Compression- Front: 3 Rear: 3
Extension- Front: 4 Rear: 5
Anti-roll Bars- Front: 4 Rear: 3
Camber- Front: 1.1 Rear: 0.2
Toe Angle- Front: -0.20 Rear: 0.15
Brakes- Front: 7 Rear: 4

Gearing
Final Gear 5.500
Top Speed - 112
1st - 2.390
2nd - 1.700
3rd - 1.410
4th - 1.180
5th - 0.960
Final - 3.260

LSD - 17/6/15

Weight Adjustment - 117@ 0

TUNER NOTES -
This was my fastest tune for the Shootout, but I just did not enjoy the feel of it. Maybe you will

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[krenkme]

There! Weeks without tunes and I go crazy. (That'll happen when it's cold out and they told me not to work today *crazy laugh* ) I hope you all enjoy them

 

[Dagger311]

I'll be making all of the old muscle. Not sure if I have the $ to buy all of them .

Could one of you do the corvette'60 Art Morrison? Love that one, high top speed when upgraded, and arguably the best looking vette in the game.

 

[krenkme]

I'll be making all of the old muscle. Not sure if I have the $ to buy all of them .

Could one of you do the corvette'60 Art Morrison? Love that one, high top speed when upgraded, and arguably the best looking vette in the game.

What specs?

The wife had to go to work, the kids are playing on the wii, my Semi didn't start (fuel gelled), so daddy's been tuning

 

[ACSR421]

Corrections:

aero : type b I think...its the body color one
Rear Wing: Custom Type A
Window Weight Reduction: yes
Carbon Hood: yes
1st: 4.020, 2nd: 2.775, 3rd: 2.128, 4th: 1.635, 5th: 1.698, 6th: 1.384

Its corrected now, sorry for the errors and thanks for catching them.

 

[Dagger311]

What specs?

The wife had to go to work, the kids are playing on the wii, my Semi didn't start (fuel gelled), so daddy's been tuning

Whatever specs you think best. Highest rounded pp though please.

 

[SudSprint79]

Lotus Esprit V8 '02 Experimental Vol. 1
Based on the Lotus Esprit V8 '02

852hp
600pp
weight 1478Kg

parts
Oil Change
Front Aero type A
Rays TE37 inch up:1 wheels painted Andradtgrun
Paint car Black Raven
Sport Soft Tires
Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
Fully Custom Transmission
Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
Triple Plate Clutch
Stage 3 engine tuning
Sport Computer
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Intake Tuning
High RPM Turbo

ABS = 1
everything else off

Tune
Ride Hight - Front: 95 Rear: 100
Spring Rate- Front: 7.00 Rear: 9.00
Compression- Front: 3 Rear: 3
Extension- Front: 5 Rear: 3
Anti-roll Bars- Front: 3 Rear: 5
Camber- Front: 1.2 Rear: 0.5
Toe Angle- Front: -0.15 Rear: 0.15
Brakes- Front: 6 Rear: 5

Gearing
Final Gear 5.500
Top Speed - 124
1st - 2.510
2nd - 1.800
3rd - 1.400
4th - 1.160
5th - 0.985
Final - 3.275

LSD - 12/9/20

Weight Adjustment - 98@ -50

TUNER NOTES -
Still not quite happy with this one, but it can surprise some... and disappoint others

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Bought one of these yesterday & haven't looked at it since... office cancelled tonight's job with 🤬-all notice... unexpected free time and now i know what i'm doing with it!

 

[Dagger311]

Clueless over The Hill Outlaws
"Chevy Camaro Z28 '69 500pp SH"

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Source and Parts list:
Buy from: Chevrolet(change oil)
Paintjob: Hugger Orange
Wheels: aftermarket
rear wing: custom type a
Downforce: 20
Weight Reduction: stage 3
Window Weight Reduction: yes
Carbon Hood: yes
Chassis reinforcement: no
Turbo: no
Sports cpu: yes
Engine Tuning: no
Intake tuning: no
Exhaust Manifold: yes
Catalytic Converter: no
Exhaust: Race
Transmission: FC
Clutch/flywheel: Triple Plate Clutch
Carbon Drive Shaft: yes
LSD: yes
torque assist center differential: na
Suspension: FC
Tires: SH
Suspension
Ride height front 110, rear 110
Spring rate front 8.22, rear 5.28
Dampers (Compression) front 4 rear 6
Dampers (Extension) front 6 rear 5
Anti-roll bars front 4 rear 4
Camber angle front 0.0 rear 0.0
Toe angle front 0.00 rear .12
Brakes: stock fr 3 rr 2
LSD
rear = initial 8, acceleration 10, braking 14
Transmission
set max speed to 112 mph
1st: 4.020, 2nd: 2.775, 3rd: 2.128, 4th: 1.698, 5th: 1.384
final: 2.850

The Tune
Ballast weight : 15/49
Power Limiter : 100%
Transmission: Manual
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
The car has 500 PP, weighs 1174Kg with a 54/46 front/rear weight
distribution, has a power to weight ratio of 3.14 kg/hp, has 373 HP
@6500 rpm and produces 346 ft-lb torque @4500 rpm
Notes:

Tuned for FITT shootout at Laguna Seca

ENJOY, AC

Disregard that, I had the ss 69, not the z28!

 

[Dagger311]

REVIEW: CAMARO Z28 '69 by @ACSR421 (Why no tag?)

The good:
No understeer, able to drift without being a drift car, fast out of corners.

The Bad:
135 mph max speed, redlines on even some of the smaller straights.

Very nice tune, and awesome for some of the more technical tracks, but not a high enough top speed for nurb or de la sarthe up against cars of similar pp.

Next up: @XDesperado67 tune for the El Camino!

 

[iainoflo85]

REVIEW: CAMARO Z28 '69 by @ACSR241 (Why no tag?)

It's @ACSR421 - 421 not 241. 👍

 

[Dagger311]

It's @ACSR421 - 421 not 241. 👍

Double thanks, one for clearing that up, and two for making me not do a double post! Camino is ready in a few.

REVIEW: EL CAMINO by @XDesperado67

The good:
Nice handling, good mix of acceleration and top speed, fast out of corners (If careful)

The bad:
Rear slides pretty bad on accelerating in the first few gears.

As long as you're careful, this can beat things with much higher performance value. Great first two tunes I've tested, keep it up both of you! Could do vintage amaerican cars all day long.

Next up: Plymouth Superbird '70 by @krenkme!

Edit:
REVIEW: PLYMOUTH SUPERBIRD' 70 by @krenkme

The good:
Awesome acceleration, only redlines on very long straights or draft. Great high-speed stability.

The bad:
Understeer in gears 1 and 2.

All around great, but shines at drag racing. Great tune for ovals as well. Managed to do fairly well at bathurst, but that understeer cut into corner time badly.

Still a great tune as always though!

Next up: Corvette '54 by @krenkme!

 

[XDesperado67]

@Dagger311 it's the ridiculous amount of torque down low in the rpm range that makes American muscle cars hard to control on SH tires in low gears. They easily overwhelm the available grip without very careful throttle application.

With that said it sounds like you enjoyed "Jose's Hauler" which makes me happy.:tup:👍

By the way are you signed up as a tester for the FITT shootout all these cars were tuned for? If not you should consider doing so as it will give you a healthy fix of American Classics.

 

[Dagger311]

@Dagger311 it's the ridiculous amount of torque down low in the rpm range that makes American muscle cars hard to control on SH tires in low gears. They easily overwhelm the available grip without very careful throttle application.

With that said it sounds like you enjoyed "Jose's Hauler" which makes me happy.:tup:👍

By the way are you signed up as a tester for the FITT shootout all these cars were tuned for? If not you should consider doing so as it will give you a healthy fix of American Classics.

I may sign up sometime.

And I very much enjoyed the Camino, I expect that kind of wheelspin on all vintage american, high power cars. I just put it under bad as it is a bad quality of the car that was tuned.

Anyways...

REVIEW: CORVETTE '54 by @krenkme

The good:
Gearing, acceleration, and handling blow stock so far out of the water...

The bad:
Wheelspin on accel (Should clarify this is expected from all high power american fr cars).

This beats stock so bad it' s not funny. Plus, it's a vette! Great tune as always!

Up next: Tempest LeMans Gto '64 by @krenkme!

 

[ACSR421]

REVIEW: CAMARO Z28 '69 by @Dagger311

The good:
No understeer, able to drift without being a drift car, fast out of corners.

The Bad:
135 mph max speed, redlines on even some of the smaller straights.

Very nice tune, and awesome for some of the more technical tracks, but not a high enough top speed for nurb or de la sarthe up against cars of similar pp.

Next up: @XDesperado67 tune for the El Camino!

Thanks @Dagger311 glad you liked it. the gearing is tuned for Laguna Seca right now but after the shootout I'll gear it for all around track use. If you want I can pm the new gearbox settings to you next time I fire up gt6 and test it.

 

[Dagger311]

Thanks @Dagger311 glad you liked it. the gearing is tuned for Laguna Seca right now but after the shootout I'll gear it for all around track use. If you want I can pm the new gearbox settings to you next time I fire up gt6 and test it.

Sure thing, figured it wasn't meant for a track like bathurst, but I do all my testing there.

Review is in on the Pontiac by @krenkme!

The good:
Lightning acceleration, pretty nice top speed, handling has improved.

The bad:
Understeer (To clarify: the understeer is very manageable if you brake a little early and turn in a little sooner, then you rocket out of the corner)

Did a very good job on bathurst, unfortunately only took second because I realised too late how to cope with a car as heavy as that pontiac! My fault though, not the tunes'. Had to put understeer in bad, even though the car naturally has it and you fixed it greatly, it's still there, and has to be factored in to the driving style. Great tune! Have never tried on on this forum that dissapointed, and I don't think I will!

Next up: '59 Stingray concept by @krenkme!

 

[Dagger311]

Alright, review is in for the '59 stingray.

The good:
Nice acceleration, nice top speed.

The bad:
Feels as though the car wants to drift on every turn.

I'm sure that, if I alter my driving style, this would be a great car, but I' m used to vettes being planted, this one kept wanting to slide out.

Still took first, not much of a problem out of the drifting thing, and with practice this would have easily had a ten second gap on my oppenents.

Tried five really great tunes today, none dissapointed, all were awesome, and it would be so hard to pick a favorite, So I'm not going to.

However, the '54 corvette is the best-looking one I did.

 

[XDesperado67]

@Dagger311 no Tequila for you since you seem to think some clasic Vette is better looking than my Gold Chrome "Jose's Hauler" low rider!

 

[Dagger311]

@Dagger311 no Tequila for you since you seem to think some clasic Vette is better looking than my Gold Chrome "Jose's Hauler" low rider!

I'm biased, can't beat a vette in a looks competition.

I painted my hauler white, anyway, after my neighbors camino.

Oh yeah, and jokes on you, because I can't drink alcohol!

 

[danbojte]

Thanks @Dagger311 glad you liked it. the gearing is tuned for Laguna Seca right now but after the shootout I'll gear it for all around track use. If you want I can pm the new gearbox settings to you next time I fire up gt6 and test it.

I like the handling and I'm waiting too, the gears for The Nurburgring.

 

[XDesperado67]

Hey all PD has the v1.04 update posted...wonder if they've managed to mess up anything this time and what it will change/add/fix.

 

[iainoflo85]

Hey all PD has the v1.04 update posted...wonder if they've managed to mess up anything this time and what it will change/add/fix.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ead-op-for-changes.301204/page-6#post-9275980

 

[danbojte]

Clueless over The Hill Outlaws
"Chevy Camaro Z28 '69 500pp SH"

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Source and Parts list:
Buy from: Chevrolet(change oil)
Paintjob: Hugger Orange
Wheels: aftermarket
rear wing: custom type a
Downforce: 20
Weight Reduction: stage 3
Window Weight Reduction: yes
Carbon Hood: yes
Chassis reinforcement: no
Turbo: no
Sports cpu: yes
Engine Tuning: no
Intake tuning: no
Exhaust Manifold: yes
Catalytic Converter: no
Exhaust: Race
Transmission: FC
Clutch/flywheel: Triple Plate Clutch
Carbon Drive Shaft: yes
LSD: yes
torque assist center differential: na
Suspension: FC
Tires: SH
Suspension
Ride height front 110, rear 110
Spring rate front 8.22, rear 5.28
Dampers (Compression) front 4 rear 6
Dampers (Extension) front 6 rear 5
Anti-roll bars front 4 rear 4
Camber angle front 0.0 rear 0.0
Toe angle front 0.00 rear .12
Brakes: stock fr 3 rr 2
LSD
rear = initial 8, acceleration 10, braking 14
Transmission
set max speed to 112 mph
1st: 4.020, 2nd: 2.775, 3rd: 2.128, 4th: 1.698, 5th: 1.384
final: 2.850

The Tune
Ballast weight : 15/49
Power Limiter : 100%
Transmission: Manual
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
The car has 500 PP, weighs 1174Kg with a 54/46 front/rear weight
distribution, has a power to weight ratio of 3.14 kg/hp, has 373 HP
@6500 rpm and produces 346 ft-lb torque @4500 rpm
Notes:

Tuned for FITT shootout at Laguna Seca

ENJOY, AC

Ballast updated (01/27/2014).

 

[CyKosis1973]

Hey all PD has the v1.04 update posted...wonder if they've managed to mess up anything this time and what it will change/add/fix.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ead-op-for-changes.301204/page-6#post-9275980

Looks like we might need to rerun a few cars. Seemingly they've changed the tyre model slightly, which could have larger than expected repercussions

{Cy}