Cobra Coupe Shootout - Lex wins 24 Hours of Spa - Pimiki Crowned Triple Champ !!!Finished

[IfAndOr]

Well, Paul did promise me a second-hand Autozam still in decent condition if I
joined in with you guys.

I'll get it ready, sprayed in a colour of your choice.

The new series is all on sport tyres - Perhaps some of your comforter's might be interested.

 

[John Wells]

Sorry for my absence, have got problem with my internet

Hopefully will be fixed by Wensday

 

[John Wells]

I'm back now have fully working internet and phone


The next Championship I'm not too sure, not that great with the F1 cars.

First car is quite good.

 

[eran0004]

I'm back now have fully working internet and phone


The next Championship I'm not too sure, not that great with the F1 cars.

First car is quite good.

I haven't driven the FGT at all before so I expect to be one of the backmarkers

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Thank you.
Well, Paul did promise me a second-hand Autozam still in decent condition if I
joined in with you guys.

To be serious though there have been a few Sunday's where I've thought of taking part
but it has been too little time to ask before the event time.
Normaly the start time is too early for me but I often read the thread so when / if I can join
I will be ready.

Just join in Jocke! We currently have a shortage of drivers so there will be no problem in jumping in. I will put you down as a Reserve Driver if you let me know your car details for the new series. If the series gets filled up it will be necessary to check for spaces first, but at the moment we have more spaces than I would like.

 

[polysmut]

I'd like to be a reserve driver too. My availability, as always, will be an issue.

 

[Sick Cylinder]

I did a full race distance test for Sunday's 50 minute Spa race - it's a simulated 24 hour + cycle so will involve some night driving. This track is ok at night with clear kerbs etc. I found my best night lap was 6 seconds slower than my best day lap, but people who know the track better than me will probably have less of a difference. I also suffered a lot more spins at night.

The sun goes down at 20:00 and rises at 08:00 - a bit unrealistic as most 24 hour races occur when the nights are much shorter than the days, but I presume PD were so proud of their night sky modelling (it is stunning!) that they gave us 12 hours of night. To reduce the length of the night session the race will be set to start at 09:00 with the speed of time on 30.

Race 1 is the 15 minute Avon Tour of Britain race and is at Spa, but without time change (6 minute qualifying).

Race 2 is 50 minutes Cobra Coupe Shootout (9 minute qualifying). Tyre wear will be set to normal. There will be no need for pitstops. I finished a 50 minute trial race with plenty of fuel left and hardly any tyre wear.

As always please try your best to drive cleanly. There is plenty of time to overtake in race 2 so please give each other room at the first corner - as they say in motor racing "A race is not won at the first corner, but it can be lost at the first corner".

Please give the championship leader Pimiki respect and space.

Good luck everyone for the final round and any Reserve Drivers who want to race, there are plenty of spaces. If there are any guest drivers who would like to race in the final round - there are some spaces so you are welcome to attend. Guest Drivers can use a standard blue Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe in the 50 minute Cobra Coupe shootout race and a blue Alpine A110S in the 15 minute Avon Tour race. @GTP_TLE152 will be welcome to race if he is available. @JockeP22 @Bergele @S_Bridge Emotional Rekz etc will be welcome to race as Reserve Drivers as above.

Good luck, good night and see you all tomorrow at 17:00 BST!

Added by Edit: Try to stay off the green painted areas of track. It is ok (normal) to put a wheel on the kerb, but please don't go over the kerb onto the green paint.

 

[Sutsagrd]

Sorry Sick but there's no point me even being a reserve driver as I'm not available normally at the time you race.
I'd love to join you if you ever change to an earlier or later time.
All the best with the new season. Looks excellent. 👍

 

[GTP_TLE152]

I did a full race distance test for Sunday's 50 minute Spa race - it's a simulated 24 hour + cycle so will involve some night driving. This track is ok at night with clear kerbs etc. I found my best night lap was 6 seconds slower than my best day lap, but people who know the track better than me will probably have less of a difference. I also suffered a lot more spins at night.

The sun goes down at 20:00 and rises at 08:00 - a bit unrealistic as most 24 hour races occur when the nights are much shorter than the days, but I presume PD were so proud of their night sky modelling (it is stunning!) that they gave us 12 hours of night. To reduce the length of the night session the race will be set to start at 09:00 with the speed of time on 30.

Race 1 is the 15 minute Avon Tour of Britain race and is at Spa, but without time change (6 minute qualifying).

Race 2 is 50 minutes Cobra Coupe Shootout (9 minute qualifying). Tyre wear will be set to normal. There will be no need for pitstops. I finished a 50 minute trial race with plenty of fuel left and hardly any tyre wear.

As always please try your best to drive cleanly. There is plenty of time to overtake in race 2 so please give each other room at the first corner - as they say in motor racing "A race is not won at the first corner, but it can be lost at the first corner".

Please give the championship leader Pimiki respect and space.

Good luck everyone for the final round and any Reserve Drivers who want to race, there are plenty of spaces. If there are any guest drivers who would like to race in the final round - there are some spaces so you are welcome to attend. Guest Drivers can use a standard blue Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe in the 50 minute Cobra Coupe shootout race and a blue Alpine A110S in the 15 minute Avon Tour race. @GTP_TLE152 will be welcome to race if he is available. @JockeP22 @Bergele @S_Bridge Emotional Rekz etc will be welcome to race as Reserve Drivers as above.

Good luck, good night and see you all tomorrow at 17:00 BST!

Added by Edit: Try to stay off the green painted areas of track. It is ok (normal) to put a wheel on the kerb, but please don't go over the kerb onto the green paint.

Yeah sure, I'll be up for this

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Yeah sure, I'll be up for this

You will need to be on my friends list to race. I sent a request last night - if it hasn't come through (if I've made a mistake) then send one to me and I'll pick it up when I log on next (after the weekly shop at Asda).

 

[gkgamer]

Please give the championship leader Pimiki respect and space.

Well, as far as I am concerned, He will get my respect when he'll be able to win without bullying his way like an a** through the field like he did last week in the trucks race with Buybon and I. I mean the guy puts several hours of training every week for the Sunday races, just to come up on Sunday and drive like a maniac on meth if he has a bad spin or is entangled in a situation that goes South. On the opposite side he's the worst of blockers when his pace is slow, specially on the longer tracks like the ring or Sierra. I remember spinning and ending up behind him in a race at the Nordschleife where he just brake-checked me on every damned corner. And then, you always get the (lame)excuse: I didn't see you. well ,maybe... He's a very fast tt pilot, no doubt about it, as we all saw in some of the races where he had pp+win+fastest lap but I think he has to accept that it cannot go this way every week, sometimes the others will have a shot at running ahead for a few laps and that should not make him become that reckless. I understand it may be frustrating to put some training sessions to end up stuck with people who don't really run the points c'ship race like you do, but I feel a bit more sportsmanship is required.
not a good series' winner in my opinion.

Will most certainly not be able to join you for tonight's last round.

 

[GTP_TLE152]

You will need to be on my friends list to race. I sent a request last night - if it hasn't come through (if I've made a mistake) then send one to me and I'll pick it up when I log on next (after the weekly shop at Asda).

Yeah just saw and accepted now, Thanks

 

[Flaco13]

A wonderful day for a Opel-guy like me but each of you Classic Car lovers would have enjoyed this meeting just as much as I did.

Classic Car Meeting at the Opel-Villas in Russelsheim, Germany.
3.000 cars and arounnd 30.000 visitors. It was expected to be 2.000 cars and 10-20.000 like in the past years, this time it was very surprising with so many cars and people. But great nonetheless. Here are some fotos:

 

[gkgamer]

Well, as far as I am concerned, He will get my respect when he'll be able to win without bullying his way like an a** through the field like he did last week in the trucks race with Buybon and I. I mean the guy puts several hours of training every week for the Sunday races, just to come up on Sunday and drive like a maniac on meth if he has a bad spin or is entangled in a situation that goes South. On the opposite side he's the worst of blockers when his pace is slow, specially on the longer tracks like the ring or Sierra. I remember spinning and ending up behind him in a race at the Nordschleife where he just brake-checked me on every damned corner. And then, you always get the (lame)excuse: I didn't see you. well ,maybe... He's a very fast tt pilot, no doubt about it, as we all saw in some of the races where he had pp+win+fastest lap but I think he has to accept that it cannot go this way every week, sometimes the others will have a shot at running ahead for a few laps and that should not make him become that reckless. I understand it may be frustrating to put some training sessions to end up stuck with people who don't really run the points c'ship race like you do, but I feel a bit more sportsmanship is required.
not a good series' winner in my opinion.

Will most certainly not be able to join you for tonight's last round.

Please excuse the stupid rant of the day sponsored by :"please enjoy your Sunday lunch drinking responsibly"
And again I never miss an opportunity to make a fool of myself.
I guess you won't be missing those in the next series...

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Great cars @Flaco13 I've never seen Opel Diplomats before-only on the top trumps card game. Nice to see an Alpine and in the distance in one shot I saw a white Ford GT40.

 

[Flaco13]

Please excuse the stupid rant of the day sponsored by :"please enjoy your Sunday lunch drinking responsibly"
And again I never miss an opportunity to make a fool of myself.
I guess you won't be missing those in the next series...

Hey, well, I'm with you on this. I totally agree with what you said. One must be able to state their opinon man.

They got more time to practice? Fine, I didn't practice at all, especially not night-times at Spa. I had pole and finished 2nd, after a spin. Let them practice as much as they can and have an advantage. But, the corner cutting and over-aggressive driving; heavy blocking; dive-bombing etc. needs to stop. Yeah, "it can happen" but no, it's happening all the time.

Sorry, but it must be said.

Great cars @Flaco13 I've never seen Opel Diplomats before-only on the top trumps card game. Nice to see an Alpine and in the distance in one shot I saw a white Ford GT40.

Those Diplomats are Coupés, so they are of the rarest of the rare. The green one in the back is actually owned and driven by the Opel CEO. He is doing a great job. I'm happy to see the brand back on its feet doing better and better, this meeting hosted by them is a small part but it plays it's role in giving the brand a better reputation.

I was low on battery in my camera so I had to chose when to make a picture wisely, there were mostly Opel cars there but I thought about you guys and our past series races, so I made pictures of the Shelby and AC Cobras, the Alpine and the Giulia. There was so much more to see, though. Must remember to bring a better camera with more batteries next year(s).

 

[LexLathor]

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Race Report - Final Round - Spa

We welcomed new racer TLE this week and I apologise that it wasn't a better meeting for him. He missed qualifying in the first race - we have been running without voice in the hope that it improves the racing by increasing the bandwidth available - but this does make communication slower. If anyone isn't in when we start qualifying please let me know so that we can restart. It is a shame that the game doesn't have a back of grid entry feature to cover this as people quite often get a DC etc. and miss qualifying.

Avon Tour of Britain 1973

I hadn't practised in the Alpine before the race, but it was a nice car for the track and I think it had an advantage over the Camaro's at a couple of places. I tried to hang on to the three Camaro's of Eran, Lex and Buybon that were in front, but their drivers were faster and more consistent and after running close at the start they pulled away.

Results

1st - Pimiki - Alpine
2nd - Flaco - Mitsubishi Lancer
3rd - Buybon - Pozzi MS Camaro
4th - Lex Lathor - Camaro
5th - Eran - Camaro
6th - Sick Cylinder - Alpine
7th - IfAndOr - Camaro
8th - John Wells - Camaro
9th - Tony Lomas - Lancer


Cobra Coupe Shootout - The 24 Hours of Spa

I had done a race simulation to test the time progression for the race and knew that I would lose a lot of time during the night stint because my best day lap was six seconds faster than my best night lap. Setting were: race start at 09:00, time progression 30. With it getting dark at around 20:00 this gave drivers plenty of time to get used to the track before night fell.

I qualified six seconds off pole, but with three behind me. The leaders were all over the place at the first corner, but I concentrated on not hitting any of the scattered cars and was pleased to settle into a rhythm matching my qualifying time. The leader was pulling away fast and I quickly calculated that I would be lapped before the end of 50 minutes racing - quicker if I spun, so best concentrate! Soon IfAndOr, who hadn't set a qualifying time, was up with me and eventually he was through. I tried to up my race pace to go with him, but it took me beyond my limits and after a couple of scares with near offs I returned to my pace. I knew from practise that with tyre wear set to normal, there would be no need to stop for tyres or fuel so was surprised to pass IfAndOr while he was having a pit stop. It was inevitable that after rejoining the track he would reel me in and pass me again. The track map showed that IfAndOr and Tony Lomas were very close and there was a tense lap or two while positions were repeatedly, but cleanly swapped. I was surprised to find that it was Tony Lomas not IfAndOr who had got through - presumably helped in the dark conditions by night vision goggles! After a while Tony drifted wide and had an off, so I was back through. IfAndOr was through again and pulled away then I came across him near the end of the race when he had an off - possibly while trying to stay out of the way of leader Lex Lathor. Lex had broken away from a tight battle for second, third and fourth so I knew the fast guys would be coming. I was desperate to stay ahead of the faster IfAndOr, but didn't want to get in the way of the leaders. Fortunately they reached me in a good spot and I was able to stay wide on a long corner and let them pass on the inside line. A very exciting race and a sixth place equalling my best finish in a Cobra Coupe race left me feeling warm and fuzzy. Massive respect for the guys who really raced these machines at night and in bad weather on crossply tyres. In fact, I dedicate this championship to "Gentleman" Jack Sears - the only man to have raced all three types of Cobra Coupe: 1964 Le Mans in the AC A98 with Peter Bolton, 1965 Le Mans in the Shelby with "The Flying Dentist" Doctor Dick Thompson and many races in the Willment Cobra Coupe.

For anyone looking to run an Endurance Championship for the first time I would strongly recommend a one make event using these cars tuning prohibited. They are fast and enjoyable to drive on any circuits.

Results

1st - Lex Lathor - Shelby
2nd - Flaco - Willment
3rd - Eran - Shelby
4th - Pimiki - AC A98
5th - Buybon - Shelby
6th - Sick Cylinder - AC A98
7th - IfAndOr - Shelby
8th - Tony Lomas - Willment
9th - John Wells - Shelby

Congratulations to the Shelby Team captained by Lex Lathor for winning Team Trucks, Cobra Coupe and overall team prize.

I have not yet posted the drivers championship tables for "Avon Tour of Britain 1973" and "Cobra Coupe Shootout", but will do so later today and declare the Drivers Champion.

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Drivers Championship Results

Congratulations to Pimiki for a clean sweep adding two more drivers championships to his total - he may be old enough to be eligible for a "Bus Pass" in the UK, giving free bus travel, but I wouldn't get on a bus with Pimiki if he was behind the wheel - much too fast!

Feedback on Endurance Rounds

I would be grateful if racers could give me feedback on the endurance rounds. It was a suggestion made a few months ago and personally I think they worked well - once we got rid of the pit stops which were so troublesome (trapping some drivers in the pits).

I think 50 minutes is about the right length - it's long enough to allow night or weather cycles and any longer would prevent the running of a different championship warmup race first.

If you liked the endurance rounds (or hated them) let me know - if they are popular we can plan another championship with them - perhaps alternate rounds i.e. 6 in a 12 round championship.


For anyone who missed out on this championship, but would like to join the next, click on the following link for more information:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...rts-5th-july-signup-now.330168/#post-10814829

 

[eran0004]

Feedback on Endurance Rounds

I would be grateful if racers could give me feedback on the endurance rounds. It was a suggestion made a few months ago and personally I think they worked well - once we got rid of the pit stops which were so troublesome (trapping some drivers in the pits).

I think 50 minutes is about the right length - it's long enough to allow night or weather cycles and any longer would prevent the running of a different championship warmup race first.

If you liked the endurance rounds (or hated them) let me know - if they are popular we can plan another championship with them - perhaps alternate rounds i.e. 6 in a 12 round championship.

I think the endurance rounds worked well. 50 minutes was perfect for me. In the last round I liked it how the time transition shaked things up a little, every time you came back to the same corner, the light was different and you had to find your braking markers. The night sky at Spa is too nice though, I often find myself looking at the stars instead of the track

Alternate rounds sounds like a good idea too. 👍

 

[Pimasz]

Hi
Thank you for the congratulations , but the victories owe it to chance !

 

[polysmut]

I really enjoyed the 50 minute Cobra race that I managed to attend & also the practice run that @Sick Cylinder did with me the day before which, from my end, was entirely impromptu. It has made me keen to try to get to some more of these races, when I can.

The length of the race combined with the weather, fuel & tyre settings seemed to work perfectly. 👍

 

[IfAndOr]

Nice Cobra write up Sick. Since I featured in it quite a lot there's not too much more to add really.

IfAndOr, who hadn't set a qualifying time

No I got called away and eventually ended up feeding the goldfish!

surprised to pass IfAndOr while he was having a pit stop

You're right the tyres/fuel would have lasted, but I thought I'd break it up halfway through the race and also add a little extra grip before the darkness closed in. (And test the pit stop - no problems)

I came across him near the end of the race when he had an off

I'd gotten a bit bored driving around by myself and had started "playing" with the views. I was at the time admiring the interior view with all it's illuminated dials. The Mulsanne straight wasn't the best place to do this however - I missed my braking point and overshot the chicane. I decided to wait there for a moment and watch the sky while the leaders passed by.

 

[JockeP22]

Soon IfAndOr, who hadn't set a qualifying time..

I got called away and eventually ended up feeding the goldfish

started "playing" with the views

I was admiring the interior view with all it's illuminated dials.

I decided to wait and watch the sky

Sounds like a normal IfAndOr race to me. Nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[IfAndOr]

Sounds like a normal IfAndOr race to me.

Yes it does. My racing is pretty random these days. I get distracted easily.

 

[JockeP22]

I think it's great, to skip qualifying so the goldfish can have supper.
I seem to recall you aborted qualifying another time as well so you could feed the cat(s).

 

[IfAndOr]

I do find qualifying time is very handy for odd jobs about the house. Am I doing it wrong?

 

[gkgamer]

I think it's great, to skip qualifying so the goldfish can have supper.
I seem to recall you aborted qualifying another time as well so you could feed the cat(s).

There is also maybe a way for the cat to be assuming the feeding part himself so that If could run Q.
But it surely means no good for the goldfish...

 

[JockeP22]

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