Comet Elenin

  • Thread starter Dotini
  • 236 comments
  • 31,380 views
buggs1a
It's not going to hit earth as none will probably. Least not till Jesus comes to get Christians. And even then there may not be anything hitting earth till the 7 year great tribulation bible talks about. How do I know? I don't know fact, but I know what the bible says about the end times right before Jesus comes to rapture the Christians and I don't think anything killer size could hit us being it doesn't fit in with end times.

This is what I believe. So I think were ok till god comes to get us Christians. I believe this.
Click to expand...

Cool Story. What happens if one hits before Jesus shows up?
 
Well not a killer one that's for sure. But something, hopefully it'd be small. Cool light show though when they're close enough to see.
 
That is painfully close, deep in the Earth's hill sphere. It's a surprise it won't get caught in orbit.
 
Starfirebird
So if we do get a week or two's worth of higher than normal negative charges could it be possible that we get more severe storms and not just more rain without lightning?

I found this bit of info,because i was curious on the matter and to me it's saying if there is more negative charges in the atmosphere(clouds i would presume)we would have more storms with heavy cases of lightning.

WHAT CAUSES LIGHTNING? As more and more water droplets collide inside a cloud, their atoms bounce off each other more forcefully. This knocks off electrons. The ousted electrons gather at the lower portion of the cloud, giving it a negative charge, while the upper part of the cloud becomes positively charged. Eventually the growing negative charge becomes so intense that electrons on the Earth's surface are repelled and burrow deeper into the Earth. The Earth's surface becomes positively charged, and hence very attractive to the negative charge accumulating in the bottom of the cloud. All that is needed is a conductive path between cloud and Earth, in the form of ionized air.

Not trying to create an argument,i'm just curious is all.
Click to expand...

"Prediction is very hard, especially about the future" --Yogi Berra

Starfirebird, thanks for your question and your very good remark on lightning. There is much more to say about lightning, but you have made a great start.

With regard to Elenin, I suppose we have to wait and see just how much charge it carries, if any. Because it is a small comet without an exceptionally large coma or tail, it is difficult for me to imagine more than the most minimal effects. In my initial reasoning, I assumed that surplus negative charge from the comet would diffuse into the electrosphere, creating the conditions when the usual fine summer/fall weather would balance the effect with more coronal discharge from earth to atmosphere. I'm reluctant to get into the stickier issue of more thundercloud formation over land, partly because it'll be the wrong time of year for thunderstorms and lightning in North America. Because lightning occurs much less frequently over water than land, it is conceivable that storms like hurricanes which deliver a lot of rain without much lightning could develop in order to maintain Earth's electrical balance. Hurricane season will still be in effect at the time of Elenin's passage. But I am not predicting a hurricane!

Respectfully yours,
Dotini
 
buggs1a
This is what I believe. So I think were ok till god comes to get us Christians. I believe this.
Click to expand...

I'd love to see you nastily surprised if it were the Buddha who announced the Rapture. :lol:
 
Dotini

"Prediction is very hard, especially about the future" --Yogi Berra

Starfirebird, thanks for your question and your very good remark on lightning. There is much more to say about lightning, but you have made a great start.

With regard to Elenin, I suppose we have to wait and see just how much charge it carries, if any. Because it is a small comet without an exceptionally large coma or tail, it is difficult for me to imagine more than the most minimal effects. In my initial reasoning, I assumed that surplus negative charge from the comet would diffuse into the electrosphere, creating the conditions when the usual fine summer/fall weather would balance the effect with more coronal discharge from earth to atmosphere. I'm reluctant to get into the stickier issue of more thundercloud formation over land, partly because it'll be the wrong time of year for thunderstorms and lightning in North America. Because lightning occurs much less frequently over water than land, it is conceivable that storms like hurricanes which deliver a lot of rain without much lightning could develop in order to maintain Earth's electrical balance. Hurricane season will still be in effect at the time of Elenin's passage. But I am not predicting a hurricane!

Respectfully yours,
Dotini
Click to expand...


Thanks for the info.

I completely forgot about hurricane season still going on in those months.Well it's pretty much at the end of the cycle anyways.Depending on how much negative charge comes from it we may have a pretty severe Hurricane near the end of the season.I did say may as i don't think it would be too bad,since it's coma is not that large.
 
i've just read this transcript on 'nasa chat' with an expert on comets..

http://www.nasa.gov/connect/chat/comet_chat.html

Q: Do comets have an electromagnetic field? how does it get affected by the sun?

A: No, no electromagnetic field. The sun heats comets and sublimates, or melts the ice, which forms the tail of the comet.

but i wondered if there was more to it than that.. there is..

http://www.sciencefound.org/home/projects/our-financial-services-bring/

there's also an interesting comment (and link) at the end that..

'...comets contain anti-matter.'

one of the links did not work.. this one did

http://www.ufodigest.com/article/hoteev-hypothesis-comets-contain-antimatter

it is the most jaw dropping article i have come across on the subject of comets
 
^ Try not to double-post, use the edit button instead. It's in the bottom right corner of each post.
 
all this fear mongering over every little bit of news wears me out. if kids want to make people apathetic to disaster they are going the right way about it, by the time something genuine happens is anyone going to care any more?
I'm bored of the internet crying wolf.
 
It had no surface ice, they know it has ice inside. They don't understand the dark surface, but apparently it's lost its surface volatiles and crusted, containing the ices inside.
 
@cuckooshoe - AUP

•You will not use “textspeak” (“r”, “u”, “plz”, etc.) in your messages. Decent grammar is expected at all times, including proper usage of capital letters.
Click to expand...

You've already been asked once to avoid double-posts. Please clean up a bit; it makes it much easier for everyone to read and respond to the information and commentary which you are posting. Thanks. 👍
 
Current length of the ion tail is 3,000,000 km, quite a bit short of the record of Hale-Bopp at 50,000,000 km. Elenin will pass within 35,000,000 km of Earth on October 16 of this year. Earth has passed through comet tails in the past, and nothing terribly notable has been reported to my knowledge.

The overall diameter of the coma is now about 213,500 km, making this comet the second biggest object in the solar system at present, although the nucleus is only 2 or 3 km in diameter.

http://spaceobs.org/en/tag/comet-elenin/

Respectfully submitted,
Steve
 
Should be pretty easy to see then when it passes by, would have an apparant diameter of a few degrees probably.
 
SO MUCH FOR DOOMSDAY: Comet Elenin (C/2010 X1), widely known for inaccurate reports of its threat to Earth, appears to be breaking apart. Observations by amateur astronomer Michael Mattiazzo of Castlemaine, Australia show a rapid dimming and elongation of the comet's nucleus akin to that of Comet LINEAR (C/1999 S4), which also disintegrated when it approached the sun in 2000. Comets are fragile objects, so this development while unexpected comes as no surprise.
http://spaceweather.com/ <--archive Aug 30, 2011
 
Dotini
SO MUCH FOR DOOMSDAY: Comet Elenin (C/2010 X1), widely known for inaccurate reports of its threat to Earth, appears to be breaking apart. Observations by amateur astronomer Michael Mattiazzo of Castlemaine, Australia show a rapid dimming and elongation of the comet's nucleus akin to that of Comet LINEAR (C/1999 S4), which also disintegrated when it approached the sun in 2000. Comets are fragile objects, so this development while unexpected comes as no surprise.
http://spaceweather.com/ <--archive Aug 30, 2011
Click to expand...

I'd say you contributed your fair share to those...
 
It'll be fun to see the doomsday people explain their way out of this one. But I'm sure it won't be a problem as they're used to it. :lol:
 

Latest Posts

Back