Community Poll: Are you fully dedicated to realism?

[Exorcet]

The poll does not make sense. Why is using aids less realistic? What makes cockpit view the most realistic barring aesthetics? Your field of view is terribly limited and unless you have head tracking, looking around, even at mirrors, is hard.

I can't vote, but I go for max realism. Chase view (for realistic SA), aids off (for fun as they don't impact realism, except SRF which I never use), damage and wear on, low off track grip, low draft.

 

[J00N10R]

Maybe the OP should ask the GT Academy winners that are currently racing real cars what their preferred settings are.
He'd probably call them un-realistic racers as well...

 

[Antonisbob]

I can't answer the poll. I use third person view, but I drive clean, I don't use aids, and I prefer tire wear.

Same here

This.

 

[Diogo Gomes]

"GT5 is only a sim if you treat it like one." GT5 isn't a sim, it's a VIDEO GAME!
Do you know what a slogan means?

 

[sumbrownkid]

The two options are loaded.

I prefer chase cam, ABS 1, no TCS, but SRF on yet have heavy damage and tire/fuel consumption.

 

[Snaeper]

I voted no because GT5 is a very authentic arcade racer with simulation qualities and capabilities. Any questions about it being a simulator should be immediately erased the first time you race online. Since it's a game, I treat it as such, so I answered 'no'. If I was committed to Sim racing, I'd go out and get an iRacing subscription or a subscription to some other simulator.

I also fail to see how you thought you could only make a black and a white answer and not expect a debate about it. I mean really? It's not hard to add a grey-zone answer to direct our attention away from the poll itself and towards the topic at hand. As someone else stated, I feel like the only purpose of the thread was to showcase how "pro" you are and judging by the tone you take with some of your other comments in other sections, your elitist and intolerant attitude is further proven.

Just in case you forgot, GTPlanet has 218,XXX members. Impressive, for sure, but considering that no where near that number are regularly active (that's the total user count since the early 2000's when GTPlanet opened) and that GT5 has sold over 7 million copies by itself means that we're a very, very small minority. And so far a great deal of that minority have spoken up on and against this topic you've created (and now abandoned), which means that you're a minority among the minorities.

Don't expect GT to become any more realistic anytime soon just because you have some fantastic idea that it's a simulator for simulator enthusiasts that happens to cater to gamers on the side, because that's a dream.

"GT5 is only a sim if you treat it like one." GT5 isn't a sim, it's a VIDEO GAME!
Do you know what a slogan means?

Precisely.

 

[HKS racer]

Note, the use of cockpit view doesn't necessarely mean realistic.

How can it be realistic seeing on screen another steering wheel and another couple of hands?
If you think about it it's an Xzibhit thing. "Yo dawg we heard you like wheels, so we put a wheel in your wheel so you can drive when you drive" LoL.

Anyway, the adjust of correct FOV perfectly matching car interiors with your hardware wheel, now that is realistic. But we have no free FOV adjust in GT5, so...

 

[arora]

Cockpit view in gt is realistic? Sure is, all my real life cars have two steering wheels, I have to fumble around pressing various buttons to see out the mirrors, oh and I can't see but maybe 1/10th the road 👍

 

[JvM]

Indeed. Oh and RL cars also never allow any seat adjustment.

 

[HippieGiraffe]

Indeed. Oh and RL cars also never allow any seat adjustment.

Quite. Not to mention my RL dash is always in a constant shadow.

 

[JDFSSS]

My answer is no because of online racing. If the server has aids enabled, I'll turn SRF on because it makes u faster, and I'll use the bumper cam view to help me see what's going on. However, when I'm offline, I would say I'm fully dedicated to realism.

 

[Small_Fryz]

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[GODfreyGT5]

Forced to vote yes because the poll is so bad.

It's like asking

'are you a nice person?'

A:Yes I pay £100 to charity every hour and invite homeless to share my house.

B:I'm a terrorist who murders childeren on weekends.

 

[Small_Fryz]

^^

So true, I had to vote no also since I use roof cam.

But clearly that makes me a dirty racer who cheats and uses R3's everywhere.

Oh and clearly I had no skills and cant drive either.

 

[machschnel]

- Dedicated to realism
- GT5

Choose one.

One question - Sebastian Loeb, Joey Logano and even Kaz have all used bumper cam. How does that affect your ego?

 

[NLxAROSA]

-I use cockpit view
-I don't use driver aids except ABS sometimes
-I prefer racing with heavy damage
-I prefer racing with tire wear on
-I race as if it was my own (or my racing teams) car in real life (clean)
-I try to use "proper" tires (a.k.a. I don't use racing soft tires on stock road cars)

I guess that means 'NO' for you too. 👍

 

[Grand Prix]

I voted yes, even though I use bumper cam for cleaner driving, and turn off visible damage for pretty photomode pictures.

 

[gorsad]

I tend not to use cockpit view when online or trying to get a really fast lap out of the car.

Most of the time on A-spec I play with no aids at all, I like using heavy damage in arcade mode and always play with tyre wear on.

So I answered no

 

[orlos2]

I voted yes although I sometimes use chase cam (mostly with standard cars). But I always drive without aids (ABS=1 only), drive clean and when creating room online, I always turn on tire wear, fuel consumption and damage to light (heavy when players start to race dirty )

 

[Samus]

You're playing by looking at a TV or monitor. That isn't realistic and neither is looking at a picture of a cockpit on said TV or monitor.

 

[orlos2]

Looking at a monitor doesn't stop you from simulating driving in real life. So I think this post is a little... nonsense? How do you drive your real car? Sitting on a roof? No, you sit inside behind a wheel.

 

[Samus]

Looking at a monitor doesn't stop you from simulating driving in real life. So I think this post is a little... nonsense? How do you drive your real car? Sitting on a roof? No, you sit inside behind a wheel.

Yes I know but the OP/poll is nonsense as is his view that you have to use cockpit and if not you're not playing realistically. Yes you drive a real car sitting behind a wheel but you also have peripheral vision and the windscreen is just in front of you, not several feet away. That's why the idea of wearing a helmet whilst playing the game is also ridiculous and would be in no way realistic.

If anything the most realistic view is a bonnet camera.

 

[HippieGiraffe]

Looking at a monitor doesn't stop you from simulating driving in real life. So I think this post is a little... nonsense? How do you drive your real car? Sitting on a roof? No, you sit inside behind a wheel.

When you crash in-game, do you barrel roll off the couch?

 

[Samus]

When you crash in-game, do you barrel roll off the couch?

Tom Brady does. He's dedicated to realism.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

How I drive is in my sig, I always use cockpit view, even with standard cars, doing time trial ( GTA, Seasonal ), races, everything. I don't have problems with cockpit view, I like it, while I dislike chase and bumper view, feels weird.

I always drive clean, winning is not the most important thing, having great time is. I never use ABS and any other aids since day one playing GT5, basically any computer assist that makes driving the car easier is a no no for me. I'll do whatever I can to get the most realistic and challenging driving.

What really bothers me is the general attitude towards fellow players who preferred no to use any aids. Those who uses aids always end up being defensive, then calling them who don't use aids as elitists. What is the real reason behind this negative perception ? Do those who uses aids feel less than who don't ? No, it's just the way you play, want more challenge for yourself, disable all aids. Want to get help from the game, use them, but don't feel bad or worse than those who don't use aids. I don't mind others being faster due to using ABS, Active Steering or what not, I know the limit of my driving without using them, that's more than enough, so why should those who uses aids feel the need to defend why they use them.

Anyway, the adjust of correct FOV perfectly matching car interiors with your hardware wheel, now that is realistic. But we have no free FOV adjust in GT5, so...

Actually, you can change the FOV in GT5, under display options, enable multi monitor, there's an option to adjust FOV, the lower the number, the closer it will be. You can still uses wide, zoom, extra zoom settings under pause menu, these will be affected by the FOV value.

 

[orlos2]

When you crash in-game, do you barrel roll off the couch?

No, I don't recreate reality that much

 

[HippieGiraffe]

No, I don't recreate reality that much

Hypocrite!

 

[Zr0]

How can it be realistic seeing on screen another steering wheel and another couple of hands?
If you think about it it's an Xzibhit thing. "Yo dawg we heard you like wheels, so we put a wheel in your wheel so you can drive when you drive" LoL.

The easy solution for all you on screen steering wheel complainers at 1:43. It works.

Anyway, the adjust of correct FOV perfectly matching car interiors with your hardware wheel, now that is realistic. But we have no free FOV adjust in GT5, so...

Sitting closer and farther from your screen(depending of the size of it) is the natural form of adjusting the POV in GT5. And also exists the ingame distance options for an easy match.



Looks very realistic to me.

Yes I know but the OP/poll is nonsense as is his view that you have to use cockpit and if not you're not playing realistically. Yes you drive a real car sitting behind a wheel but you also have peripheral vision and the windscreen is just in front of you, not several feet away.

If anything the most realistic view is a bonnet camera.

You mean the roof camera? There is no bonnet cam in GT5 just a zoomed roof cam. Not very realistic if you ask me.




The absolutely most realistic view in GT5 with no discussion is a perfectly adjusted multi cockpit view with matching scales depending of the monitor sizes and sitting distance. Mirrors and all that.

 

[Diogo Gomes]

"Looks very realistic to me."

It's so realistic that the man is driving so far from the tv, he is in the rear seat. If he wants to be realistic he should have his eyes touching the tv because that's where the in-game racer's eyes are.

And it looks like a manual transmission in the game so why is he using the paddle shifters?

 

[Zr0]

It's so realistic that the man is driving so far from the tv, he is in the rear seat. If he wants to be realistic he should have his eyes touching the tv because that's where the in-game racer's eyes are.

I think you don't understand what means matching the tv scale with the player POV. If the logitech steering wheel match the size of the on screen wheel from the player perspective means that you are 1:1 on scale with the cockpit, so sitting at the right distance on the driver seat.

To tell the truth it would be better that the logitech wheel it kept inside the ring of the on screen wheel because it's smaller than a real car steering wheel, except a kart maybe.