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UKMikey
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Said no one ever, at least on this thread.
If you don't break the AUP your posts won't be censored. But if you assert things which other people think are wrong, they'll challenge them. That isn't censorship.
You can have whatever opinion you like, even a dumb one. But others have the right to call it dumb. Do you disagree?
If so, then the only one who seems to be crying is you.
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I'll just say this: Any group that is willing to embrace and promote known, harmful and proven lies to "help the team" and/or "own the libs" should never be taken seriously or allowed anywhere near power. Ever.
The Big Lie disqualifies conservatives from participating in polite society. Forever.
And that's even before we get into their multiple, irrational hatreds.
And again, I say this as a former lifelong Republican.
The Big Lie disqualifies conservatives from participating in polite society. Forever.
And that's even before we get into their multiple, irrational hatreds.
And again, I say this as a former lifelong Republican.
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Turns out I was wrong in this case. That's apparently one of the upper stages of a Saturn V rocket finding its way into the earth-moon system and then finding its way back out again. Totally possible if you're willing to wait around long enough. But if you weren't space junk and actually wanted to ensure that you hit that target, you'd need some kind of control system after all of that orbiting.
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ah so people like Zoe Quinn (slept with a journalist for a positive review) and Keffals (notable communist who groomed minors on Discord) get a free pass because they're not conservatives?
leftists with ties to the right people and who say the right things, but are ultimately in it for a more sinister reason, can push a narrative too, you know
if we want to go back in history I guess that we should ignore Jimmy Savile's long, long history of sexual abuse because of his charitable work, too. people like that absolutely FESTER off of doing things for the greater good of the public... so they can do more sinister stuff behind the scenes. and there's so many people like that on the left, just nobody wants to admit it, and that's what pushes initially 'liberal' people into 'pessimist-conservative' territory, because they lose hope in society.
progressives are ****ing idiots, and far-rights are ****ing idiots too, for thinking their side can do no wrong and that bad actors (whatever your view is, I don't care) won't go out of their way to manipulate absolutely anything it takes, infiltrating anything, to do screwed up **** for their own means.
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Completely irrelevant rant.
Conservatives having a factually worse ideology has nothing to do with those people's situations. It does not mean Leftists are without fault, but unlike Conservatives, Leftists will more than likely disown people you've listed. The last sentence is more "both sides bad" nonsense that tries to equate both parties ignoring that 1 side is quite literally reversing decades of progress because of religious/nonsensical views.
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This is a strawman with a tinfoil hat on, unless you can show us the leftists and progressives lining up to defend people like Savile, like the right insists Trump and the January 6 rioters were innocent and a victim of the deep state and how any of this justifies actively working against minorities and other disadvantaged groups to remove their rights in society.
As an example, quitting the EU because we're scared of immigrants hasn't exactly been a sterling success for the British economy so far. It's in a shambles and crime and poverty are rising. This is worse for society. Some dumbass far leftists bought into it but the impetus behind it is mostly supported by the right, not progressives who fought against it but couldn't fight the poll manipulation which led to its disastrous adoption.
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oh really am I
what's this then? also the countless amount of stuff out there about this server allowing minors despite it supposedly being an 18+ server?
inb4 'muh right wing rhetoric'
your types only like evidence that suits your bill. when it goes against your worldview, you demand evidence via sourcing in the mainstream media (i.e. commercial, 'big' websites and newspaper articles) and from prominent profiles that match up exactly with your political ideology. ironically this is exactly the same thing that people on the far-right do when they dismiss any news that comes from anything not called Fox News, the Daily Mail or Tory MPs/etc.
if it doesn't match up by these ultra-specific requirements that will nearly never be met you end up throwing away the evidence on the basis it's 'unreliable'. or treating it 'better' because it came from someone from 'an oppressed minority', much the same way people on the far-right treat evidence from 'a majority' better than that from a minority.
it's all about making a personal judgment based on each side of the story you have, rather than chucking away any and all evidence because 'you don't like the source', and if things add up and generally point to a result, you make a conclusion. unfortunately, this art has been lost on people.
ultimately, you really do have to treat evidence from people who can be deemed 'problematic' as evidence, because that's how things work. often enough you can tell if they're talking dog**** though, especially IRL. I remember once I had a hunch on someone being a lying **** who... funny enough, turned out to be a lying **** - I knew they'd get into some **** for years, and when it happened I just thought 'lol called it', didn't go attacking anyone around them because it's not really my business though... anyway said person (who went by VoltiRoth/greenchile03/EspoElectro) stole $2000 worth of people's money for a Gofundme scam pretending to have been kicked out of their parents' home for 'transphobia' back in 2021 or so if I remember right.
what this does is **** up people who actually deserve the help and funds to get the hell out of abusive situations: my 2nd closest friend is trans and she is going through a lot of abuse right now. actual abuse, as in being beaten up by her parents, her estrogen tablets being taken away... basically not being allowed to actually live her life (despite being legally an adult) nor being even respected by her parents as their kid, which is beyond disgusting.
disagree with life choices all you like, but at the end of the day doing things like rejecting someone from working or going somewhere purely down to them holding 'problematic' views or being part of a minority (regardless of them voicing them openly or the said person actively going out of their way to be whatever to someone else about their views), or in cases like my friend, trying to sadistically use your own child as some kind of punching bag when they actually did did nothing personal to you, is just horrendous.
live and let live. society should form naturally, not forcibly, and evidently we will learn to respect one another as people.
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I was out of order for even saying that and apologise. post heavily reworked since then anyways.
also I presume you think I believe the harassment campaign back in 2014 was justified because of what happened with those people - funny enough I don't. again, two sides to the story - there is a legitimate problem with that in the industry, but there is also an issue with ethics in game journalism, and the fact both are still brought up to this day and the event in question in particular is talked about... yeah.
the whole 'muh objectification' thing was mostly from people who weren't even the target audience of the games they were criticising for that. it'd be like if someone complained about Gran Turismo for not being representative of other vehicles besides cars, or was 'too realistic' - they're evidently not the target audience for the game, so such complaints can be safely ignored, however if a game is meant to have more of a universal appeal in terms of the sex of the audience*, it's worth taking such things into consideration.
(interestingly and related to the post above, I noticed trans people tend to gravitate more to interests and games that are typically associated with their birth sex rather than their gender identity, the sheer amount of MTFs into raunchy hentai/ecchi games obviously targeted at teenage males is clear evidence of that.)
Unfortunately, that appears to not be the case: Keffals is still flaunting all over Twitter - I remember during the whole #DropKiwiFarms saga, a lot of people who previously supported them started to get suspicious of their true intentions when they got the site blacklisted from the Wayback Machine: their response was to have them and anyone else organising the campaign block anyone daring to question it rather than actually address it with any real response, and get their fans to hammer anyone questioning them with threats and tweet reports.
If I remember right though Keffals got in hot water... for saying a slur on stream. Yep. Not for grooming underage boys and trying to 'pinkpill' them (which is remarkably similar to what Reiko of /r9k/ fame did back in 2015ish) along with their partner (there's , not for constantly slagging non-trans women off on Twitter, not for being an obnoxious ratio-er, not for stealing money from the Canadian Communist Party...
Also: https://archive.ph/03p8r (unfortunately, this is a far-right account. if Twitter hadn't blocked itself from being accessed without logging in, I would definitely have been able to find a more reasonable account posting the same content, though.)
Also you're conflating 'conservative' with 'far-right'. It appears that's something a LOT of Americans confuse.
A lot of far-right Americans also seem to confuse the terms 'liberal' and 'far-left', for what it's worth.
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I don't know much about this Keffals person but it's difficult to find evidence against her on the web which isn't mired in controversy and hearsay. I'd wager most left-wingers haven't even heard of her, let alone try to defend or condemn her so this seems like a weird example with which to characterise all leftists' behaviour.
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I have no idea who this person is. They remain irrelevant to what I said. If they are a person shrouded in controversy & guilty of their allegations, the odds are leftists want nothing to do with them.
Nope. I know what I'm properly referring to because conservatives in general remain complicit with their ideology of reversing progress. All the far-right does is amplify it & most of conservatism would rather silently agree with it than think about promoting progressive ideas instead.
All you have to do is look at the amount of conservatives that seem to be unopposed to bringing & essentially forcing Christianity where it doesn't need to be.
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You know it really is great that conservatives are really putting the children's interests at the front and going after those what wish to harm them!
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Ex-Florida QB Jalen Kitna agrees to plea deal that drops 5 felony child porn charges
Ex-Florida quarterback Jalen Kitna, the son of retired NFL quarterback Jon Kitna, has agreed to a plea deal that will dismiss five felony child pornography charges stemming from his arrest last November.
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I've seen the phrase "terminally online" thrown around but I never had a sense of what it meant prior to seeing @iyohato's bitchfits in this thread.
[tapping sign] (It was never about the kids. It's always been about groups disfavored by conservatives.)You know it really is great that conservatives are really putting the children's interests at the front and going after those what wish to harm them!
Ex-Florida QB Jalen Kitna agrees to plea deal that drops 5 felony child porn charges
Ex-Florida quarterback Jalen Kitna, the son of retired NFL quarterback Jon Kitna, has agreed to a plea deal that will dismiss five felony child pornography charges stemming from his arrest last November.
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