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All the pressing issues going on in the country at the moment and Congress is focused on gas stoves. That's peak government.
 
All the pressing issues going on in the country at the moment and Congress is focused on gas stoves. That's peak government.
They know nothing is going to happen. They just want to put something forward like this so that when democrats vote against it they can run campaign ads saying democrats want to take away your gas stoves.
 
They know nothing is going to happen. They just want to put something forward like this so that when democrats vote against it they can run campaign ads saying democrats want to take away your gas stoves.
I really wish the general voting population would quit tolerating stuff like this. Both sides do it too, their primary function isn't to run the country but to make the other side look bad so they can get elected again. They should work together, make compromises, and figure things out, but instead, all they do is focus on the next election immediately after the last election.

Sadly, political polarization will kill the country faster than anything else short of maybe an asteroid. We need to have different views and different sides, but they need to be able to work together. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening anytime in the near future since only a handful of Republicans and Democrats are willing to cross the aisle for legitimate reasons (not the asinine reasons that the dumbass wing of the GOP did with stoves).
 
I really wish the general voting population would quit tolerating stuff like this. Both sides do it too, their primary function isn't to run the country but to make the other side look bad so they can get elected again. They should work together, make compromises, and figure things out, but instead, all they do is focus on the next election immediately after the last election.

Sadly, political polarization will kill the country faster than anything else short of maybe an asteroid. We need to have different views and different sides, but they need to be able to work together. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening anytime in the near future since only a handful of Republicans and Democrats are willing to cross the aisle for legitimate reasons (not the asinine reasons that the dumbass wing of the GOP did with stoves).
This is why I consider it worthy of congratulations that they came together to raise the debt ceiling. As small as that was, it was collaborative. Same with the infrastructure bill passed early in the Biden admin.
 
This is why I consider it worthy of congratulations that they came together to raise the debt ceiling. As small as that was, it was collaborative. Same with the infrastructure bill passed early in the Biden admin.
I'm not sure how collaborative it is though since it's now leading to Congress eating itself. It seems like McCarthy played the politics game but the very people that put him in power didn't want him too, which is exactly what happens when you elect people who's political expertise consists of a 7th grade civics class like MTG.

It's still remarkable to me that Congress is no longer a functioning body but just a bitchfest between two sides that don't really care about the average American. Democrats are less brazen about it and at least don't want to tank democracy, but unfortunately, they're still part of the overall problem.
 
It's still remarkable to me that Congress is no longer a functioning body but just a bitchfest between two sides that don't really care about the average American.
Absent the insurrectionist group, congress has been that way for a long time.
Democrats are less brazen about it and at least don't want to tank democracy, but unfortunately, they're still part of the overall problem.
Not wanting to tank democracy is a big start. It seems like you don't want to say bad things about republicans without also making sure that everyone knows you're not a democrat. Right now, republicans are the problem. The big problems facing America right now are:

  • abandonment of democracy
  • abandonment of free speech (not in the stupid elon musk sense)
  • violation of women's rights
  • an illegitimate supreme court

I used to say things like "income taxes". One might want to put police brutality in there, or infrastructure. Someone might want to put relations with china or even global warming. I stand behind not including them.

All of those things are problems because of republicans.
 
Not wanting to tank democracy is a big start. It seems like you don't want to say bad things about republicans without also making sure that everyone knows you're not a democrat. Right now, republicans are the problem.
I think most of us know how bad the Republicans are, they make it very known how bad they are and they just don't care. However, it seems like Democrats get a free pass, which is what I take issue with. I think both parties are a major problem and neither have America's best interests in mind. Much of this comes from the average age of Congress being 58 years old, while the average age of the US is 38. There's a major generational gap where Congress isn't in tune or can even comprehend the struggles of someone younger. My problems at age 36 vastly differ from those my parents faced when they were 36. Housing prices are out of control, inflation is rampant, Medicare and Medicaid are completely broken, and Social Security is worthless. In addition to being old, everyone in Congress has money because you can't be poor to get elected since it costs a fortune. While they might not have been wealthy when they started their political career, they certainly make their way rather quickly. When you have wealth, it's difficult to understand the plight of someone who doesn't. I'm not exactly wealthy, but I have a six-figure job and if you asked me what life is like for someone who's well below the poverty line, I would likely be way off the mark.
The big problems facing America right now are:

  • abandonment of democracy
  • abandonment of free speech (not in the stupid elon musk sense)
  • violation of women's rights
  • an illegitimate supreme court

I used to say things like "income taxes". One might want to put police brutality in there, or infrastructure. Someone might want to put relations with china or even global warming. I stand behind not including them.
While those are certainly problems, I think climate change trumps all of them. We've missed the boat on preventing it, but we haven't missed the boat on getting prepared for the fallout. Not much will matter if you have millions of climate refugees to figure out what to do with, if massive hurricanes bury coastal cities, and if huge wildfires scorch through millions of acres. As our climate gets more out of whack and as we continue to dump god knows what into the water, we're all going to suffer and it's going to lead to massive problems.

I go back to Utah and the Great Salt Lake as a prime example. If the GSL dries up, it will make the entire Salt Lake Valley uninhabitable due to toxic air. That's 1.3 million people that would either need to move or die. We have no plan on how to deal with that. I mean, we can't even deal with an influx of migrants border, so I don't have faith we'd be able to deal with climate refugees on a massive scale.

Foreign powers gaining, well, power is also a huge concern. North Korea has a madman who could launch whatever, Russia is trying to reform the Soviet Union poorly, and China is trying to take over everything without any consequences. Unfortunately, many of our politicians make too much money from Chinese investments and take blood money from Russia. A few things have been done to stop it, but the Chinese are still building and occupying spying center on our soil with minimal consequences.

Both climate change and foreign intervention are due to both parties failing to figure it out when they've had opportunities to do so for decades.

I agree abandoning democracy is bad but I think that process started years ago where corporations and those with money and influence just decide most stuff. I still like that I have a choice between Awful Candiata A, B, or C but it's still disappointing. The abandonment of free speech is definitely an issue that I would put up with climate change and foreign intervention. Women's rights are important and I think it's ridiculous that the government is even getting involved to limit them, but in the grand scheme of things that's further down the list for me. The illegitimate Supreme Court is similar too, it's important and an issue, but I don't think it's the most pressing issue, especially since occasionally they do put politics aside.
 
I think most of us know how bad the Republicans are, they make it very known how bad they are and they just don't care. However, it seems like Democrats get a free pass, which is what I take issue with. I think both parties are a major problem and neither have America's best interests in mind. Much of this comes from the average age of Congress being 58 years old, while the average age of the US is 38. There's a major generational gap where Congress isn't in tune or can even comprehend the struggles of someone younger. My problems at age 36 vastly differ from those my parents faced when they were 36. Housing prices are out of control, inflation is rampant, Medicare and Medicaid are completely broken, and Social Security is worthless. In addition to being old, everyone in Congress has money because you can't be poor to get elected since it costs a fortune. While they might not have been wealthy when they started their political career, they certainly make their way rather quickly. When you have wealth, it's difficult to understand the plight of someone who doesn't. I'm not exactly wealthy, but I have a six-figure job and if you asked me what life is like for someone who's well below the poverty line, I would likely be way off the mark.

You call it a free pass, I call it focus on the bigger picture. Also, when did it become the government's job to control house prices? Inflation is... a thing. But it's a thing everywhere, not just in the US. As far as government programs go, they seem to be doing what they do.

While those are certainly problems, I think climate change trumps all of them.

I don't think it tops any of them. Without democracy, we have no real chance of combating climate change, and even if we did do so successfully, we'd have lost our representation. The exact same issue exists with free speech - which is integral to a functioning democracy. Abortion is also relevant to climate change of course, but it is such a deep attack on the bill of rights and the constitution that I think at this point it unravels our belief in human rights in the first place. Climate change presents a threat, but the loss of human rights presents at least the same threat. A legitimate supreme court represents exactly the same issues, loss of representation, loss of human rights.

Each of these is a cornerstone of the functioning of the country. The courts, the bill of rights, and representation. The destruction of any of these is exactly the kind of thing you're worried about maybe happening with climate change, except that the destruction of these deeply impacts our ability to combat or deal with climate change, and ruins what we have left even if we did.

If we're going to combat climate change, we need to function as a society.
 
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Everything and everyone contributes to a certain extent. It's just natural, even a stone in some remote place contributes. That's all.
"It happens anyway" isn't a valid justification. It also doesn't justify speeding up the process.
 

Lunar gravity assist. Nice stuff. "The Joke" would for sure need some kind of maneuvering capability because course correction to achieve that kind of precision would be required.

What other natural phenomena are you going to combat? Sunrises, sunsets? Rain? Kek.

Humans do engineer rain, snowfall, clouds, river flow, forest fires, plant growth, natural selection, lava flow, and erosion - I'm sure there are many more to add to this list. Human beings combat all kinds of natural phenomena, and there are more that simply aren't viable but would be nice to have control of - such as volcanoes, hurricanes, tornados, and earthquakes. One of the things humans engineer is pollution, and we also engineer responses to pollution.

TL;DR that was not a well thought-out response.
 
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Why many "climate activists" are more concerned with banning ICEs and meat, rather than fighting the destruction of Amazon forest, which is one of the most significant impact on the environment?
Why their efforts are more geared towards destroying the economies and eliminating middle class, rather than actually helping the environment? It's a rhetorical question.

 
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Why many "climate activists" are more concerned with banning ICEs and meat, rather than fighting the destruction of Amazon forest, which is one of the most significant impact on the environment?
Why their efforts are more geared towards destroying the economies and eliminating middle class, rather than actually helping the environment? It's a rhetorical question.

It's a big conspiracy. The "climate activists" go to a special school where they're told that being a "climate activist" is a good way to hide the fact that you actually hate the middle class. But keep that hatred of the middle class buried deeply and instead pretend that you care about the "environment". Use this as a way to advocate for policy that harms the middle class, what you actually hate, while pretending that it's about stuff we all know is bogus. [/s]

Ok actually it's not a conspiracy. The answer to your rhetorical question is multi-faceted:

1) You assert that people care more about one thing than another without actually giving any evidence at all.
2) Americans don't live in the Amazon (or people wherever that video is from, perhaps the UK). People are naturally concerned about what happens in their own neighborhood, and also they have more influence over what happens in their neighborhood.
3) People have control over their own actions. It's difficult for one person to do anything about the Amazon. It's much easier for them to vote, choose not to eat meat, use less fossil fuels, etc.

This again, like your previous post in here, is absolutely dismally thought through. You insinuate a preposterous conspiracy theory while going far out of your way to avoid the obvious answers to your own questions.
 
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Yeah, definitely easier to just block roads and annoy people, rather than do something that really helps. Clearly, a conspiracy theory.
 

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