Controller/Wheel Settings

[sytfu]

I'd like to know that too. Also, what settings are you using for your car, all assists off?

I hinder myself on every racing game, all steering assists and all driving aids get removed before I even setup the steering wheels.

 

[ozwheels]

That's the thing, when I'm not on track I'm on my sim rigs always brushing up or trying to stay sharp, so these weird quirks I want to try and work through instead of just call it quits on the game and blame the developers. For grip this game is really good and I'm interested to see if they update it to fix these other small flaws.

Examples, 40+ years of driving in general, back when I was young I used to do some street racing and lots of high speed driving. I have also did quite a lot of testing in many different cars and of different types of surfaces. I have had cars sideways plenty of times and have never ever I had a real car even try snap back like they do in the game and in the game it is a common occurrence.

In game it almost feels like the front tires loose grip and the over all handling of the car degrades once the rear gets sideways then after a brief delay the front gets full grip and snap. This does not happen in real life.

Care to give an example of this type of thing happening on a regular basis in a real car?

I agree with both of you here about being sideways. I haven't tried drifting, but just from driving the GT3 cars it's noticeable. Small slides can be easily caught but catching bigger ones is harder than in pCars 1 in my opinion. It does indeed seem like the front end hesistates then grips suddenly causing massive snap oversteer. I feel like it's more to do with FFB at the moment because after days of trying to get my wheel feeling like pCars 1 I gave up and moved on. There is known issues with the FFB and wheels so hopefully it can be patched. There isn't any feeling of the back end stepping out when it initially breaks loose. There was in pCars 1 and it was easily recognizable. Visually seeing it and reacting takes too long.

 

[sytfu]

Also something I noticed and I don't know if I'm weird or reaching towards a non issue, but have you guys noticed different handling properties depending on the view you are in? I drive mainly first person head tracking, but if I go to hood view there is a noticeable sharper untuned feel to the wheel. Since I drive first person helmet view all the time it is super smooth and tuned to my liking, but everywhere else it just seems choppy and notchy when steering gets unbalanced. And this is with grip specifically, I don't drift in any other view but first person helmet view.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

Also something I noticed and I don't know if I'm weird or reaching towards a non issue, but have you guys noticed different handling properties depending on the view you are in? I drive mainly first person head tracking, but if I go to hood view there is a noticeable sharper untuned feel to the wheel. Since I drive first person helmet view all the time it is super smooth and tuned to my liking, but everywhere else it just seems choppy and notchy when steering gets unbalanced. And this is with grip specifically, I don't drift in any other view but first person helmet view.

Interesting. I have been driving hood view most of the time. I will have to try some others and see if I detect a difference.

 

[goalgerd13]

 

[goalgerd13]

90 gain on T150, that's a bit too much for me, I constantly fight with the wheel on that setting.

i find it really easy to drive

 

[35mm]

So far, I'm at:

Profile: Immersive
Gain: 30
Volume: 60
Tone: 40
FX: 45
Menu Spring Strength: 0.40

And, very important:

Steering Deadzone: 0


T300 on the PS4.

Edit: Also make sure you make these tests with the tyres warm, otherwise you may think you are getting no feedback at all when in fact it's just the tyres that are still cold and slippery.

I decided to change my settings the other day.

I was driving the Civic Type-R and was getting no feedback whatsoever with the above.
So, I decided to try what most people with the T300/PS4 are doing, which is using RAW with gain at 100 (or near that), TONE at 50 and adjusting FX to your taste (which usually ends up around 75). VOLUME then can vary for each car (between 35 and 60).

In short,

Profile: Raw
Gain: 95
Volume: 35~50
Tone: 40
FX: 70


Still, I'm finding the results somewhat inconsistent and some cars I don't understand at all (i.e. Lamborghini Sesto Elemento).

 

[NLxAROSA]

Still, I'm finding the results somewhat inconsistent .

Could that be a result of the auto calibration / auto tuning function when using the Informative or Immersive presets? That caught me off-guard a few times when I didn't realize it was there (and FFB is off for a lap or two as a result).

 

[Georgeagea]

I decided to change my settings the other day.

I was driving the Civic Type-R and was getting no feedback whatsoever with the above.
So, I decided to try what most people with the T300/PS4 are doing, which is using RAW with gain at 100 (or near that), TONE at 50 and adjusting FX to your taste (which usually ends up around 75). VOLUME then can vary for each car (between 35 and 60).

In short,

Profile: Raw
Gain: 95
Volume: 35~60
Tone: 50
FX: 70


Still, I'm finding the results somewhat inconsistent and some cars I don't understand at all (i.e. Lamborghini Sesto Elemento).

OMG! Fx at 70?! My G29 was about to break at around 10!

Please try this:
Informative
Gain 90
Volume 65
Tone 100
Fx 10

And tell me your feedback!

EDIT: "Still, I'm finding the results somewhat inconsistent and some cars I don't understand at all (i.e. Lamborghini Sesto Elemento)."
==> that's the problem of the game and not you! you're doing nothing wrong! We're all in the same boat here! Some cars are alive and others are dead!

 

[OooAhh Cantona]

Could that be a result of the auto calibration / auto tuning function when using the Informative or Immersive presets? That caught me off-guard a few times when I didn't realize it was there (and FFB is off for a lap or two as a result).

Does auto calibration occur one time? i.e. First session I enter after switching to Informative or Immersive.

Or

Does auto calibration happen every time I enter a session?

 

[35mm]

Could that be a result of the auto calibration / auto tuning function when using the Informative or Immersive presets? That caught me off-guard a few times when I didn't realize it was there (and FFB is off for a lap or two as a result).

It might be, yes, since I've just discovered the calibration thing yesterday evening.

OMG! Fx at 70?! My G29 was about to break at around 10!

Please try this:
Informative
Gain 90
Volume 65
Tone 100
Fx 10

And tell me your feedback!

EDIT: "Still, I'm finding the results somewhat inconsistent and some cars I don't understand at all (i.e. Lamborghini Sesto Elemento)."
==> that's the problem of the game and not you! you're doing nothing wrong! We're all in the same boat here! Some cars are alive and others are dead!

FX, really? That's strange
FX is about detail (vertical wheel movement), not rotation strenght.

Does auto calibration occur one time? i.e. First session I enter after switching to Informative or Immersive.

Or

Does auto calibration happen every time I enter a session?

Good point. Although I think it's basically everytime you switch the flavour.

 

[NLxAROSA]

Does auto calibration occur one time? i.e. First session I enter after switching to Informative or Immersive.

Or

Does auto calibration happen every time I enter a session?

Good point. Although I think it's basically everytime you switch the flavour.

If I'm not mistaken, any change (so including Volume, Tone, FX) will trigger it when using Immersive or Informative. I'm not sure if other changes outside of that also trigger it (e.g, change session/car/etc.). But I'm sure someone more knowledgeable can answer that.

 

[Georgeagea]

I
FX, really? That's strange
FX is about detail (vertical wheel movement), not rotation strenght.
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Exactly! This causes vibration in the wheel and not rotation! Those weird crackling sounds!
Anyways man to each his own! Fx is for road feel and I'm used to 90/0/0/0/0 in Assetto which means i want no artificial additions and pure feedback!

 

[NLxAROSA]

EFx is for road feel and I'm used to 90/0/0/0/0 in Assetto which means i want no artificial additions and pure feedback!

In PC2 it's not artificial: it's not a canned effect and comes from actual surface. Of course you're free to dial it out if you don't want it.

 

[35mm]

I'm used to 90/0/0/0/0 in Assetto

Funny, because where you use 90, I use 30 in AC.

So, I can only conclude that different wheels must, indeed, need very different settings.

 

[Outspacer]

Funny, because where you use 90, I use 30 in AC.

So, I can only conclude that different wheels must, indeed, need very different settings.

I think I used about 80 with G29, then dropped it to 35-ish when I got a T300. Strength is different, but I didn't change the rest of my settings. That said, I'd expect vibration style effects to be pretty harsh on a geared wheel compared to belt driven.

 

[Georgeagea]

I think I used about 80 with G29, then dropped it to 35-ish when I got a T300. Strength is different, but I didn't change the rest of my settings. That said, I'd expect vibration style effects to be pretty harsh on a geared wheel compared to belt driven.

Funny, because where you use 90, I use 30 in AC.

So, I can only conclude that different wheels must, indeed, need very different settings.

Both absolutely right!

 

[Stewyripper]

OMG! Fx at 70?! My G29 was about to break at around 10!

Please try this:
Informative
Gain 90
Volume 65
Tone 100
Fx 10

And tell me your feedback!

EDIT: "Still, I'm finding the results somewhat inconsistent and some cars I don't understand at all (i.e. Lamborghini Sesto Elemento)."
==> that's the problem of the game and not you! you're doing nothing wrong! We're all in the same boat here! Some cars are alive and others are dead!

Finding more and more bugs everyday damage turned itself on during a race tc came on (don't use it) menus almost stalled, loads more too many to list here.
But i'm sure they will fix it. If not the discs make good frisbees, haha.
So with that thought i will not throw everything out of the window yet haha.

 

[Georgeagea]

I have a weird unjustifiable feeling that you like drinking, more like adore it! Dunno why! Weird!

 

[Stewyripper]

I have a weird unjustifiable feeling that you like drinking, more like adore it! Dunno why! Weird!

I like a drop of whisky but can't drink pints anymore unless i want to be up all night.

 

[Danyutz]

In PC2 it's not artificial: it's not a canned effect and comes from actual surface.

Still artificial induced, as only 2 tracks were laser scanned ( Jack Spade i think said that ). Fuji and Oulton ( IIRC )

 

[beck_is_back]

Has anyone tried the Indy Cars on ovals and experienced almost 0 FFB?

Had the same, turned everything up to maximum and still nothing?!? Couldn't find any solution yet...

 

[SAMHAIN85]

As a pad user I'm noticing that its hard to get throttle at 100%. I use the right stick for throttle and I'm finding myself having to ever so slightly adjust my thumb to hit the "sweet spot" and see the green throttle bar go to 100%. With PCars1 and GT this was never a problem. I could still hit 100% with the stick pushed diagonal up. Is there a setting that directly effects this that I can change?


TLDR: throttle wont hit 100% on controller when the right stick isnt perfectly pushed up.

Thanks

 

[beck_is_back]

Edit: Wrong thread, apologies!

 

[OooAhh Cantona]

Exactly! This causes vibration in the wheel and not rotation!

This is my dislike of all the presets and user settings I've tried. Every driving situation has practically the same level of vibration force. So when I increase FX to feel kerbs more, I get increased vibrations for wheel slip/gear change/etc. My T300 becomes unenjoyable. Driving was unnatural. Then this...

OMG! Fx at 70?! My G29 was about to break at around 10!

Please try this:
Informative
Gain 90
Volume 65
Tone 100
Fx 10

And tell me your feedback!

EDIT: "Still, I'm finding the results somewhat inconsistent and some cars I don't understand at all (i.e. Lamborghini Sesto Elemento)."
==> that's the problem of the game and not you! you're doing nothing wrong! We're all in the same boat here! Some cars are alive and others are dead!

I agree with how you're thinking! Although the volume is way too strong for my T300. And I want to feel kerbs a bit more, so I decreased Tone and increased FX. Settled on: Informative/90/20-25/90/15. Finally, I'm enjoying pCARS2!

I increase volume to 25 for any lifeless car. Ahem, looking at you, Lambo Sesto.

Still, I'm finding the results somewhat inconsistent and some cars I don't understand at all (i.e. Lamborghini Sesto Elemento).

 

[35mm]

^^ Will give those a try next time. @OooAhh Cantona @Georgeagea

Edit: Nah, not for me.

 

[OooAhh Cantona]

^^ Will give those a try next time. @OooAhh Cantona @Georgeagea

Edit: Nah, not for me.

Not surprised. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a base setting that works for the majority. Although I understand the subjective nature of sim wheels, it's surprising to see such drastic differences in FFB settings.