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Lemans Results
Big thank you to the other stewards who picked up the slack @gtpcaine @Glenalz81, as always you guys have helped me out big time and stayed professional all the way through, real appreciate it ;)
Race 1

Lap 9 - Memto89 - AdrianHettich - Racing incident

verdict: NFA

Seeming unsighted incident with no where else to go.


Lap 12 - Adrian lap 12 + lap 44 Pit Line (Pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 14 - Niko - Ayrton - Avoidable contact

Verdict: 60 secs


Lap 15 - Niko - Pit Line (Pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 25 - Pikey Mikey - Pit line (pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs*


Lap 28 - Memto89 - Pit line (Pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 30-31 - Pikely Mikey - Driving standards

Verdict: Verdict: Driving standards warning 1

This is the most outrageous bit of unsportman like behaviour ever recorded in WEC. Interfering with a GT battle by slowing down to help a GT slip stream is disgraceful and will not be tolerated at any time by any LMP driver, your LMP run will be disqualified and you are facing your first driving standards warning.


Lap 37 - Ayrton - TK Hansen - Racing Incident

Verdict: NFA


Lap 37 - Filo - Pit line (Pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 40 - chozza_32 - Pit Line (pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 42 - Glenalz81 - Pit Line (pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 42 - CJBMX702 - FILO - Racing Incident

Verdict: NFA


Lap 43 - CJBMX702 - Chozza

Verdict: NFA

Although there is a differing opinion of this incident among the stewards, it will be treated as a NFA since it is 6 of one half a dozen of the other. CJBMX you cross the track onto the racing line while you have damage and the pit entrance is on the right hand side of the track, since you were limping back you need to stay well clear of the racing line you were also laps down and so a blue flag situation was in place. Chozza you did have time to react to the incident, please keep your grade up at all times to avoid other incidents like this.


Race 2

Warmup lap - Zovo - Driving standards

Verdict: Driving standards warning 1

As the leader of the race on the warm up lap it is vital that you do not perform in a manner which puts all other drivers in jeopardy. Going off not once but twice causing people to stack up and inadvertently causing 4 cars to receive damage. When leading please make sure you drive in a manner that does not cause stacking or crashes behind.


Lap 5 - Zovo - Pit line (pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 12 - LilBuddy - Pit line (pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 14 - Pikely Mikey - Pit line (pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 16 - Zovo - Pit line (pit out)

Verdict: 30 secs



Results and points

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Lemans Results
Big thank you to the other stewards who picked up the slack @gtpcaine @Glenalz81, as always you guys have helped me out big time and stayed professional all the way through, real appreciate it ;)
Race 1

Lap 9 - Memto89 - AdrianHettich - Racing incident

verdict: NFA

Seeming unsighted incident with no where else to go.


Lap 12 - Adrian lap 12 + lap 44 Pit Line (Pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 14 - Niko - Ayrton - Avoidable contact

Verdict: 60 secs


Lap 15 - Niko - Pit Line (Pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 25 - Pikey Mikey - Pit line (pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs*


Lap 28 - Memto89 - Pit line (Pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 30-31 - Pikely Mikey - Driving standards

Verdict: Verdict: Driving standards warning 1

This is the most outrageous bit of unsportman like behaviour ever recorded in WEC. Interfering with a GT battle by slowing down to help a GT slip stream is disgraceful and will not be tolerated at any time by any LMP driver, your LMP run will be disqualified and you are facing your first driving standards warning.


Lap 37 - Ayrton - TK Hansen - Racing Incident

Verdict: NFA


Lap 37 - Filo - Pit line (Pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 40 - chozza_32 - Pit Line (pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 42 - Glenalz81 - Pit Line (pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 42 - CJBMX702 - FILO - Racing Incident

Verdict: NFA


Lap 43 - CJBMX702 - Chozza

Verdict: NFA

Although there is a differing opinion of this incident among the stewards, it will be treated as a NFA since it is 6 of one half a dozen of the other. CJBMX you cross the track onto the racing line while you have damage and the pit entrance is on the right hand side of the track, since you were limping back you need to stay well clear of the racing line you were also laps down and so a blue flag situation was in place. Chozza you did have time to react to the incident, please keep your grade up at all times to avoid other incidents like this.


Race 2

Warmup lap - Zovo - Driving standards

Verdict: Driving standards warning 1

As the leader of the race on the warm up lap it is vital that you do not perform in a manner which puts all other drivers in jeopardy. Going off not once but twice causing people to stack up and inadvertently causing 4 cars to receive damage. When leading please make sure you drive in a manner that does not cause stacking or crashes behind.


Lap 5 - Zovo - Pit line (pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 12 - LilBuddy - Pit line (pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 14 - Pikely Mikey - Pit line (pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs


Lap 16 - Zovo - Pit line (pit out)

Verdict: 30 secs



Results and points

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Yay me, no penalties!
 
Lap 14 - Niko - Ayrton - Avoidable contact

Verdict: 60 secs


Lap 15 - Niko - Pit Line (Pit in)

Verdict: 30 secs
I see the stewards have been watching F1. Didn't think plain mistakes would give an avoidable contact penalty. :/ Especially when it was a really non aggressive move (trying to give room for a pass and accidentally touch the sand)

Thought my sand trip on pit in would be excused as well since it was caused by the crazy magic damage fix in the middle of the corner. But I know we're hard on our pit lines here.
 
Lap 9 - Memto89 - AdrianHettich - Racing incident

verdict: NFA

Seeming unsighted incident with no where else to go.


Lap 12 - Adrian lap 12 + lap 44 Pit Line (Pit in)
Right, this accident was avoidable on lap 9 if you wouldn't reversed into me. I have checked this twice from each camera I could, and I could easily pass you so I'm not agree with " NFA " I got wheel damage which didn't even allowed me to rejoin the track ( 70 % till pit lane I spend on grass) so I don't think NFA is appropriate here. The same if it's about pit lanes. Both situation were coused by damage so I have lost more time going into pits and on top of that 60 secs??!!
There was drive brief but before that lots of people said what they think about pit lanes. La Sarthe pit in lanes are absolutely safe and are well separate from track so why penalise someone for it? I did not gain anything instead I lost a lot just to drag my self into pits.
 
I see no response to anything else from Le Mans, the fact you have kicked many people with a penalty while they are down and in a gravel trap, starting to be glad I don't have a PS anymore (it broke yesterday) means I can get onto some racing that the outcome won't be changed for no reason.
 
I see no response to anything else from Le Mans, the fact you have kicked many people with a penalty while they are down and in a gravel trap, starting to be glad I don't have a PS anymore (it broke yesterday) means I can get onto some racing that the outcome won't be changed for no reason.

Damn mikey
Hope you are up and running for wgtc s2...
 
thx Glenals

But still not realy enlighted yet

Lillbuddy has 4 points from former race
Both he and i end up with 10 points each at le mans
That makes 24 points to team result in my book. Not 14
 
thx Glenals

But still not realy enlighted yet

Lillbuddy has 4 points from former race
Both he and i end up with 10 points each at le mans
That makes 24 points to team result in my book. Not 14
The result is made up of both of your races added together. It is like having a driver change mid race.

You score what the car scores, not what you individually get.
 
Those 3 minutes I lost in the last half hour when i got too tired certainly look very costly now. Proper preparation for Silverstone certainly looks necessary.
 
I see no response to anything else from Le Mans, the fact you have kicked many people with a penalty while they are down and in a gravel trap, starting to be glad I don't have a PS anymore (it broke yesterday) means I can get onto some racing that the outcome won't be changed for no reason.
Officially m4r resign from this series. Memto89, you as a organiser should know best that rejoining to track should take all your attention and you can't even penalise your self??
Thank you guys, was a great pleasure to drive with you all.
 
Memto89, you as a organiser should know best that rejoining to track should take all your attention and you can't even penalise your self??
The funny thing is I had nothing to do with the stewarding of that incident and would Happily have accepted a penalty of the other stewards had deemed that I needed one, just like I have nothing to do with any of my incidents, they are all decided by other people, I just post the results, so instead of trying to make it out like it's my fault and I'm not accountable why don't you have a kind little chat with the other stewards and see why they called it the way they did?
 
The funny thing is I had nothing to do with the stewarding of that incident and would Happily have accepted a penalty of the other stewards had deemed that I needed one, just like I have nothing to do with any of my incidents, they are all decided by other people, I just post the results, so instead of trying to make it out like it's my fault and I'm not accountable why don't you have a kind little chat with the other stewards and see why they called it the way they did?
I can't be responsible for Stewards call or decision but you as a ORGANISER should admit in the first place to them about this accident. And yes funny thing, coz if everyone will check this replay " lap 9" they will notice that 4 cars was passing you while you was on band and for some reason when I try to pass you reversed with full throttle into me.
You still think it's not your fault?
 
I can't be responsible for Stewards call or decision but you as a ORGANISER should admit in the first place to them about this accident. And yes funny thing, coz if everyone will check this replay " lap 9" they will notice that 4 cars was passing you while you was on band and for some reason when I try to pass you reversed with full throttle into me.
You still think it's not your fault?

You do realise his point there was "I didn't make the call on this incident", right?
 
You do realise his point there was "I didn't make the call on this incident", right?
Yes I do realise, but he should bring that to stewards attention.

Seeming unsighted incident with no where else to go.

4 cars was passing and there was where to to go.
 
Maybe this will help your memory memto89

This is your answer to race report;

Jun 8, 2014
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adrianhettich said
Clean race for me apart from your barrier collision on lap 9, I would pass you but you reversed in to me
Yea sorry about that, I did t see you as I think you came wider than everyone else, but yes that was my faultLink
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Maybe try talking to the stewards themselves, @adrianhettich?
Thanks for advise but as I said I'm done here plus Mikey ps is dead.
It won't change results and it wasn't my target. It's about rules. It's a race and everything can happen but admit officially " yeah I fu...ck up " but instead I see memto is innocent while in pm he admit " it's my fault "
 
Could I just from an outside perspective lean in and say that the rules seem awfully provocative. Major infractions for something as simple as a pit lane line, and that every single incident has to be investigated? In racing incidents happen. People sometimes do deserve penalties. But 30 seconds for a tyre over a pit line? In real life would you ever see that? In a race that makes no difference , perhaps barely a tenth, and you give 30 seconds for it? Why? It's like people are being penalised for racing and making mistakes.
 
Could I just from an outside perspective lean in and say that the rules seem awfully provocative. Major infractions for something as simple as a pit lane line, and that every single incident has to be investigated? In racing incidents happen. People sometimes do deserve penalties. But 30 seconds for a tyre over a pit line? In real life would you ever see that? In a race that makes no difference , perhaps barely a tenth, and you give 30 seconds for it? Why? It's like people are being penalised for racing and making mistakes.
Yes you do see that in real life it's a direct coloration to a drive through penalty, and in all honesty and this goes to everyone, I'm not forcing anyone to race, the rules were the same from day one and you all willingly signed up.... I really don't see why I should have to fight this constantly if you don't like it then that's fine, no hard feelings... And the other thing is no one really seems to appreciate how much time and effort I put into this whole thing and yet all I get is moaning and complaining so forgive me if I really don't give a **** about people moaning all the time... It's not like I don't listen to people and there will be a complete overhaul of the rules and regs this weekend (or next weekend) but these things take time and the rules and regulations stood through lemans, like I said to everyone, and I even made pretty little pictures telling everyone where you would get 30 secs if you went there, so complaining about it is just the most stupid idea possible??
 
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