COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

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So I had mixed feelings about hitting like on this post, because I wanted it to be a show of support for you and your wife and not a show of support for COVID. One wonders though, how should it be interpreted in general? This image has been circulating today:

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See, this is one of the problems with "like" systems. As it is now, the like system on GTP is far too ambiguous. Some people might find a post funny or thoughtful, while not necessarily agreeing with the poster, but they click the like button. To others, this act of "liking" could be misconstrued as agreement with the poster's views. Which presents another problem: People that are afraid to "like" people's posts because they don't want to be seen as being on their team/side/clique.

My suggestion: Either remove the like system from the more political sections of the forum, OR introduce more options in the like system so the person clicking the like button can be better understood. For example, under someone's post there could be: "5 people found this post funny," "6 people found this post thoughtful," "3 people agreed with this post."
 
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They weren't doing the saliva tests? Those are so much nicer than getting your brain scrubbed. I've been spoiled, the last test I took all I had to do was spit into a tube repeatedly.
The email we received with the times said they would be letting us choose nose or throat but everyone was getting nosed.

It wasn't so bad except that I could have sworn, through her muffled mask, that she said 5 seconds. Then she started counting and didn't stop at 5. :lol:
 
There's some news about Maynard James Keenan and some of this after effects from the virus. He caught it in February.

When asked if he’s currently feeling alright, Keenan answered, “Well no. I still have the cough. Every other day, I have these coughing fits because my lungs are still damaged at the tips. And I just got over the inflammation that was going on with my wrist and hands. I had an autoimmune attack on my system in the form of, like, a rheumatoid arthritis. Basically, from what I understand, it attacks weird spots and it's random. So that's what I got. That was my prize.”

https://loudwire.com/tool-maynard-james-keenan-covid-19-lung-damage/
 
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Job made me and the rest of our crew take a random Rona test... Off till the results come back... First time doing it. The nose probe wasn't too bad, she only did one side for 5 seconds, the last 2 was when she got the good dig in, she didn't go as deep as I thought she would...
 
Don't worry, seniors. Trump has cured the virus.



Eyes rolling so hard right now. :rolleyes:


It's really disconcerting seeing someone lie so baldly.

"To the seniors, I'm a senior! I know you don't know that. Nobody knows that. Maybe you don't have to tell 'em but I'm a senior."

Dude. We all have eyes. We can see that you're old. JFC, tone it down and just talk to the people about the crisis going on in their country instead of making it all about you.
 
Trump is claiming not only can he not get Covid (b/c he already did), but he can't give it, either. Twitter as a result, has flagged the tweet as misinformation.
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Sounds like he's still testing positive, imo & that's why he's trying to argue, "yeah, but I can't give it to anyone, so we're good".

Edit* Also adding, Regeneron's CEO is claiming Trump's cocktail is "a case of one" & more clinical trials are still needed.
Regeneron chief executive Leonard Schleifer on Sunday said President Donald Trump's treatment with the company's experimental antibody cocktail is "a case of one," but stressed ongoing clinical trials still need to show its efficacy.

"The president's case is a case of one, and that's what we call a case report, and it is evidence of what's happening, but it's kind of the weakest evidence that you can get," Schliefer said in an interview on CBS' "Face the Nation."

Schleifer added that there were "some very interesting aspects" in Trump's case, such as his age. He also noted that the president "had some risk factors," and that Trump "did not have his own immune system in gear when he was sick and he got treated" with Regeneron's treatment.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/11/regeneron-trump-covid-coronavirus-428691
 
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From today, masks are mandatory in certain streets and squares in Hamburg. Mostly downtown and popular sites for going out (such as Reeperbahn, Sternschanze or Landungsbrucken).
 
The UK Government are having a live press conference right now, in order to explain/justify the new restrictions being imposed across most of the UK.

I have to say, I think there is an elephant in the room that they are avoiding. Their own graphs show that the age-group with the highest prevalence of the virus is 10-19 year olds, and that infections in the young are driving infections in the older age groups. The caveat was added that the majority of this age group are 16+, but even so, it is hard to see how this doesn't translate into the news that nobody wants to hear or admit... schools are probably a major culprit.
 
The UK Government are having a live press conference right now, in order to explain/justify the new restrictions being imposed across most of the UK.

I have to say, I think there is an elephant in the room that they are avoiding. Their own graphs show that the age-group with the highest prevalence of the virus is 10-19 year olds, and that infections in the young are driving infections in the older age groups. The caveat was added that the majority of this age group are 16+, but even so, it is hard to see how this doesn't translate into the news that nobody wants to hear or admit... schools are probably a major culprit.

High schools in our area never went back to in-person.
 
High schools in our area never went back to in-person.
It's odd. Most public schools in the Northeast are still remote but my nieces and nephews are in private school and they currently still have in-person classes.
 
High schools in our area never went back to in-person.
Wow, really?

That's maybe a good thing, though obviously it reinforces the point that it is not just schools, nor it is just not-schools that are contributing to the rise in cases in our respective locales.

I reckon closing schools again in the UK is the very last resort, and yet given the rapidity of the increase in cases here in Scotland (and we are not even the worst in the UK), it seems like it would be a good idea.
 
Wow, really?

That's maybe a good thing, though obviously it reinforces the point that it is not just schools, nor it is just not-schools that are contributing to the rise in cases in our respective locales.

I reckon closing schools again in the UK is the very last resort, and yet given the rapidity of the increase in cases here in Scotland (and we are not even the worst in the UK), it seems like it would be a good idea.

Yea, high schools stayed remote. Middle schools for the most part are on a hybrid system, and I think most elementary schools are in-person (this is just my general understanding based on chats with people in various school districts that I happen to know). Obviously in-person is masked.

I don't know what the demographic that's driving our increase is, I know the local college was a COVID breeding ground. Those people may then be taking it to places of employment, etc.
 
Here in NJ, the governor gave every family the right to choose all remote learning and every school needed to find a way to accommodate. Our school district estimates about 30% of the student base opted for all remote.

My daughter's school (she's in her first year of high school now) is on a hybrid system. She goes two days per week and three days every other week. And she's remote the remaining two (or three) days. Classroom sizes are therefore smaller. They have their temperatures checked before entering the building. They're not allowed to use lockers. Hallways are one way only. They're not allowed to eat or drink in the classroom. (They have to go out to the hallway to even drink from a bottle of water). Windows in class are kept open, although with temperatures sinking I'm not sure how much longer they'll keep that up. Students have to wear masks.

We thought she was old enough to make an informed choice and she wanted to attend class as she thinks it's easier to learn, face to face (or mask to mask). Although frankly, I think she was also eager to see her friends again.

My wife on the other hand, is a first grade LLD teacher for a different district. They also have a hybrid system but it means the teachers are there all 5 days. And to make it worse, being an LLD teacher, and with many teachers deciding to take a medical leave, they're short staffed, which means my wife is also helping in classrooms other than her own during her free periods. So she has twice the exposure she should have. She's not happy about it, but accepting it somewhat stoically. The one particularly irksome issue she has is that the original proposal was to shorten the day and cut out lunch. But the superintendent in the district where she works, insisted on lunch. So she now has to deal with 1st graders, many with learning disabilities, removing their masks to eat, all while maintaining social distancing. Predictably, it's a disaster. She's taken to wearing hospital scrubs and just bagging her clothes when she gets home and showering. She's been tested 3 times since school started, all negative thank goodness. She also suffers from seasonal allergies so when she starts sneezing, everybody looks at her with wide eyes.

Judging by the rising daily numbers in the northeast, we suspect at some point, the schools will probably go all virtual again. But at least if they do, I think we're all better prepared this time around.

EDIT: I did also want to mention that I have a nephew who recently relocated to Texas (a rural suburb Northwest of Dallas) and started a job as a high school teacher. From what I've been told:
- Masks (by the students) are optional. He's had students kid/berate him for wearing a mask.
- So far, 8 of the staff have tested positive for Covid-19.
- He has been tested himself but the official policy is that unless he tests positive, he shows up for work. (I couldn't believe what I was hearing)
- But I guess equally shocking is that each morning the teachers in the group meet, hold hands and have a prayer. He told my sister that he immediately picked out the other atheists as they all looked around shocked and uncomfortable.
 
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Here in NJ, the governor gave every family the right to choose all remote learning and every school needed to find a way to accommodate. Our school district estimates about 30% of the student base opted for all remote.

My daughter's school (she's in her first year of high school now) is on a hybrid system. She goes two days per week and three days every other week. And she's remote the remaining two (or three) days. Classroom sizes are therefore smaller. They have their temperatures checked before entering the building. They're not allowed to use lockers. Hallways are one way only. They're not allowed to eat or drink in the classroom. (They have to go out to the hallway to even drink from a bottle of water). Windows in class are kept open, although with temperatures sinking I'm not sure how much longer they'll keep that up. Students have to wear masks.

We thought she was old enough to make an informed choice and she wanted to attend class as she thinks it's easier to learn, face to face (or mask to mask). Although frankly, I think she was also eager to see her friends again.

My wife on the other hand, is a first grade LLD teacher for a different district. They also have a hybrid system but it means the teachers are there all 5 days. And to make it worse, being an LLD teacher, and with many teachers deciding to take a medical leave, they're short staffed, which means my wife is also helping in classrooms other than her own during her free periods. So she has twice the exposure she should have. She's not happy about it, but accepting it somewhat stoically. The one particularly irksome issue she has is that the original proposal was to shorten the day and cut out lunch. But the superintendent in the district where she works, insisted on lunch. So she now has to deal with 1st graders, many with learning disabilities, removing their masks to eat, all while maintaining social distancing. Predictably, it's a disaster. She's taken to wearing hospital scrubs and just bagging her clothes when she gets home and showering. She's been tested 3 times since school started, all negative thank goodness. She also suffers from seasonal allergies so when she starts sneezing, everybody looks at her with wide eyes.

Judging by the rising daily numbers in the northeast, we suspect at some point, the schools will probably go all virtual again. But at least if they do, I think we're all better prepared this time around.

That sounds like a tough situation. Has your wife's school had any cases yet?
 
That sounds like a tough situation. Has your wife's school had any cases yet?

So far, knock on wood, no positive tests from the staff at my wife's school. But there have been a few at the "other" school in the same district. And the district just next to hers went all virtual this week after 4 teachers tested positive in a week.

Note: Also added an edit to my post above with a 3rd hand account of my nephew's experience.
 
Australian study finds that Covid can survive on surfaces for up to 28 days.

These tests were done in the dark, in cool conditions on things like bank notes. The theory being that you could sneeze on a tenner, put it in your wallet, than pay for fish and chips with it nearly a month later and infect people.

The study is pretty contentious, with other scientists saying that due to the study using pure virus samples, rather than infected mucus, the results weren’t truly indicative. Apparently the white cells in mucus tend to kill off the virus within a number of hours.

Still, interesting stuff. I remember back in February that the most common advice was that it would die on surfaces in minutes, and that the only real concern was if someone coughed straight in your mouth. How far we’ve come.
 
EDIT: I did also want to mention that I have a nephew who recently relocated to Texas (a rural suburb Northwest of Dallas) and started a job as a high school teacher. From what I've been told:
- Masks (by the students) are optional. He's had students kid/berate him for wearing a mask.
- So far, 8 of the staff have tested positive for Covid-19.
- He has been tested himself but the official policy is that unless he tests positive, he shows up for work. (I couldn't believe what I was hearing)
- But I guess equally shocking is that each morning the teachers in the group meet, hold hands and have a prayer. He told my sister that he immediately picked out the other atheists as they all looked around shocked and uncomfortable.
Yep, that definitely sounds like the suburbs around north Dallas. Too much money, too much life-revolves-around-me.
 
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Schools in Scotland (as far as I know anyway) are 100% full-time, 100% face-to-face.

The 'blended learning' idea that you guys are talking about sounded/sounds eminently sensible to me, as is the idea that parents should have the option of whether to keep their kids at home or not.

However, here in Scotland/UK, there was a huge backlash and a very prominent government U-turn on the idea of blended learning - it pretty much became a taboo phrase overnight and it remains a sore point now... as such, a move back to blended or even 100% remote learning is effectively the 'nuclear' option, which is a great shame because it means they will likely only go down that route when it is already too late.
 
We have the option of face to face or online learning for primary kids, and a mix of online and in person for high school. I think they end up at school 2-3 days a week. In my kid's class (kindergarten) there are about 25 kids now, down from 29 or 30. A bit over a quarter of our school went online, but they condensed 4 classes into 3 as well.
 
These tests were done in the dark, in cool conditions on things like bank notes. The theory being that you could sneeze on a tenner, put it in your wallet, than pay for fish and chips with it nearly a month later and infect people.

Unless it was in London, in which case it would have to be a twenty.
 
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