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[Mamaghi]

The First race was a disaster for me, from 1st to 6th in the last 2Km of the race because of 3L of fuel lol. Anyways, It was great to race with you guys .

See you the next week.

 

[332i]

Haha it's all good. First race I pushed too hard into the pits, spun right at the entry and it put me into an auto drive thru lol. So I couldn't stop for fuel or tire. Went around another out lap and pitted again haha ugh oh well. Second race I flew into the pits with my foot on the gas and it clicked "ok" to fuel up to 100% before I could lift of the throttle ahhhh! Have finally figured out the pit system in GT the hard ways...

Good racing, though. Mount pan is one of my favorite tracks. Sewing turns 3 and 4 together feels soooo good. Same with the entry and exit out of turn 15 on to the back straight. Hitting that cork screw-esque sort of drop angle turn perfectly makes me happy

Ascari will be awesome. Such a fun track.

 

[SmileyWRX]

Main thread, results and standings updated.

 

[332i]

I don't mean to bitch as I'm sure some people are tired of me doing that...but I do want to point one thing out. It didn't affect me, but just want to say that Alan sat idle and watched the races. At one point with about three or four minutes to go with lex or mak chasing me...whoever it was...all it would have taken was a mistake on my part and they would have upped a position. Alan jumped out onto the track basically right in front of him. Just want to point out that Alan decided that 3-4min left in the race was a good time to jump out in front of and what looked like got in the way at minimum of whoever was chasing me. It probably cost time to the driver chasing me and I felt bad.

I know i am nit the one to make decisions, but I think it is a given that, if Alan is going to start on the grid, he should race. If he is going to be an observer, he should be an observer. Like I said, if I screwed up, whoever was behind could have caught me. It was not enough of a gap for me to hold position if I went off. If no one cares, that's fine. Just figured whoever had to deal with him was probably not enjoying the race for a bit and may have felt cheated. For all I know, it caused him to push his tires harder to deal with Alan and it didn't allow him to catch me at the end. Can't remember if it was the first or second race. Idk what bulb goes off in someone's head that they sit in a safe spot for 25min and had complete two laps at best, sees two cars chasing each other coming down to the last turn and he decides it is a good time to jump in between me and the driver behind...it is bizarre. On my track map, it looked like he tried to see if he could hold off whoever it was, until Alan crashed into the sand trap at T1.

Idc if nothing is done about it, but don't do that if you're reading Alan. You move over for people who have several laps on you. I've never seen someone dive in between two lead lap cars after sitting for a while, though. Most series on GTP would DQ you from the entire series for that.

Idk how to say that is unacceptable, because I have no words for it. Do it in quick matches or 450pp racing soft rooms. People want to have fun. Don't ruin their fun. Is no fun when you have a good race going and someone puts a damper on it in a way that I have never seen. Been kart, car and sim/arcade racing for 18 years since I was 8. I know it is just a game, but like I said...other people want to have fun as well and screwing with people like that (whether you meant to or not) makes things annoying. Some people spend time setting their cars, testing, practicing and want to win. Don't get in the way of that for whatever reason you decided on during Saturdays racing.

 

[Mamaghi]

First of all thank you to yadeeg for not writing in capitales . We all agree it's not enduro racing, it's not "Les 24h du Mans", we cannot stop the car during 9 laps then return on the track, it's just not acceptable, in 99.99% of cases it will cause damages, inconveniences to the other cars no matter they are fighting for the win or not. However I think "according to the replays" that Alan is using pad and we all know that it's not that funny to race with, especially on a track like Bathurst and especially with 600 BHP engine. I think it would be better to allow drivers using pad to run with the TC, it could solve the problem IMO .

 

[makovics1313]

Using pad is not that funny to race with, especially on a track like Bathurst and especially with 600 BHP engine. I think it would be better to allow drivers using pad to run with the TC, it could solve the problem.

Nah, I absolutely disagree with you. I am using a pad too and it is still fun. I don't need traction control to keep the car on track.
Furthermore, this offense is obviously unnecessary. There should be a more easier way. There should be an option in the room settings menu which makes lapped racers to 'ghost car'. Maybe the penalty option should be set as weak but I don't know exactly.

 

[Harsk100]

Nah, I absolutely disagree with you. I am using a pad too and it is still fun. I don't need traction control to keep the car on track.
Furthermore, this offense is obviously unnecessary. There should be a more easier way. There should be an option in the room settings menu which makes lapped racers to 'ghost car'. Maybe the penalty option should be set as weak but I don't know exactly.

I used also DS3 without TC in WCR, too!

 

[Mamaghi]

Nah, I absolutely disagree with you. I am using a pad too and it is still fun. I don't need traction control to keep the car on track.
Furthermore, this offense is obviously unnecessary. There should be a more easier way. There should be an option in the room settings menu which makes lapped racers to 'ghost car'. Maybe the penalty option should be set as weak but I don't know exactly.

lol, it's your right to disagree, what offense you are talking about ? it's not me who say "look at me, i'm using pad and i'm 'too fast'" this could be an offense.. If you don't need TC just don't use it. that's it. was talking about drivers who use pad and need TC to be more consistent.

 

[Mamaghi]

I used also DS3 without TC in WCR, too!

 

[makovics1313]

lol, it's your right to disagree, what offense you are talking about ?

What offense am I talking about? I am talking about that offense against Alan and other slower racers. Crying and complaining all the time... (Qualify together or alone, start from the last corner or from the pit, etc...) Yeah, Its quite boring.

it's not me who say "look at me, i'm using pad and i'm too fast"

Yeah, Because I said that, right? Really?

If you don't need TC just don't use it. that's it. was talking about drivers who use pad and need TC to be more consistent.

Nah, You were talking about pad-users like they are disabled or something...


And did you read my entire post? I was trying to recommend a solution to that problem.

Do You think that the TC solve your problem? I dont think so. Because you will outrun the slower racers in the same way but 2 laps later...

And please stop criticising me. I did not meant to start an idiotic argument.

 

[Harsk100]

What offense am I talking about? I am talking about that offense against Alan and other slower racers. Crying and complaining all the time... (Qualify together or alone, start from the last corner or from the pit, etc...) Yeah, Its quite boring.



Yeah, Because I said that, right? Really?



Nah, You were talking about pad-users like they are disabled or something...


And did you read my entire post? I was trying to recommend a solution to that problem.

Do You think that the TC solve your problem? I dont think so. Because you will outrun the slower racers in the same way but 2 laps later...

And please stop criticise me. I did not meant to start an idiotic argument.

Mamaghi and Makovics, please don't fight with each other! I don't like conflicts...

 

[Mamaghi]

What offense am I talking about? I am talking about that offense against Alan and other slower racers. Crying and complaining all the time... (Qualify together or alone, start from the last corner or from the pit, etc...) Yeah, Its quite boring.

me complaining and crying all the time ? could you give some exemples ?
Just for info mate, for me, you are as slow as slower cars you are talking about, and yes it's becoming boring because of you and guys like you.

@SmileyWRX, unfortunately because of pro commitments i will leave the series. Hopefully I will be with you in DTMPR S2..

 

[Harsk100]

me complaining and crying all the time ? could you give some exemples ?
Just for info mate, for me, you are as slow as slower cars you are talking about, and yes it's becoming boring because of you and guys like you.

@SmileyWRX, unfortunatly because of pro commitments i will leave the series. Hopefully I will be happy to be with you in DTMPR S2.

Mamaghi- You don't have to leave this series only because you're a pro. Any driver is welcome in this series. And please don't insult Makovics. What has he done to be insulted?

 

[Mamaghi]

Mamaghi- You don't have to leave this series only because you're a pro. Any driver is welcome in this series. And please don't insult Makovics. What has he done to be insulted?

lool, is that a joke, take your time, try to understand then answer

 

[makovics1313]

you are as slow as slower cars you are talking about, and yes it's becoming boring because of you and guys like you.

Heeere we go! Yep, That's you, Mr. 'I-am-the-fastest-racer-ever-and-I-can-afford-huge-ego'

Sorry Princess, It's a shame you can't stand out for yourself.

 

[SmileyWRX]

I was reading all the comments - enough please.

We all together are here to enjoy the driving i think. So please keep that in mind.


Mamaghi very sorry to hear that, really hope you will change your mind until Saturday.

 

[SmileyWRX]

Regarding our driver Alan2134

Please if you start the race, try to drive it to the end.

Otherwise you can stop off the track and stay there until the end of race.
No vehicle movement please.

 

[daan]

me complaining and crying all the time ? could you give some exemples ?
Just for info mate, for me, you are as slow as slower cars you are talking about, and yes it's becoming boring because of you and guys like you.

Heeere we go! Yep, That's you, Mr. 'I-am-the-fastest-racer-ever-and-I-can-afford-huge-ego'

Sorry Princess, It's a shame you can't stand out for yourself.

Enough. Please take any issues you have with each other else where. We don't want them here.

 

[Mamaghi]

Enough. Please take any issues you have with each other else where. We don't want them here.

lol, are we in a class room or something ? where would you like us to go ? train station, Underground metro station to solve the problem ?. Sorry mate but as a moderator you had to delete posts with Inappropriate behavior like :

Sorry Princess

. then if you want to blame us or something, you can do it using private messages. that's my point of view

 

[V8-Johnboy]

lol, are we in a class room or something ? where would you like us to go ? train station, Underground metro station to solve the problem ?. Sorry mate but as a moderator you had to delete posts with Inappropriate behavior like :
. then if you want to blame as or something, you can do it using private messages. that's my point of view

He did ask politely mate to be fair Believe me it could be worse.

 

[IfAndOr]

Well well. I check back after a few days and it's all going off isn't it!! Calm down please.

Thanks to @daan for his intervention. I thought it might help - but maybe not!


Can I just point out that..

Incident report to SmileyWRX.

That should have been the correct procedure to follow - a PM to Smiley. He would have then dealt with it has he saw fit - a post or a PM.
There's no need to constantly bring up complaints on the thread. I'm thinking all this unpleasantness could have been prevented if that procedure had been adhered to.
The thread should be limited to general race reports, pictures, and hopefully friendly chat.

Can I point out that Smiley is a novice at running a championship - he's learning has he goes along, and doing very well. I'm sure he doesn't need the extra hassle of participants having major arguments on the thread. He's trying to attract drivers. I'm thinking anyone reading this last page would maybe look elsewhere!. Not good - give him a break.



Since the Alan incident is now out in the open - Yes he should have stayed off track, but I think he is also a novice and learning in every race. Be patient, we all have to start somewhere.
Edited - because of this

Faster/Slower drivers it doesn't matter to me. Attitudes, maybe.
Accidents do happen and unless it is obviously intentional, just keep calm and carry on. Just drive to the best of your abilities, try to stay clean and above all enjoy yourselves.

And now back to the DTM's...

 

[332i]

What offense am I talking about? I am talking about that offense against Alan and other slower racers. Crying and complaining all the time... (Qualify together or alone, start from the last corner or from the pit, etc...) Yeah, Its quite boring.



Yeah, Because I said that, right? Really?



Nah, You were talking about pad-users like they are disabled or something...


And did you read my entire post? I was trying to recommend a solution to that problem.

Do You think that the TC solve your problem? I dont think so. Because you will outrun the slower racers in the same way but 2 laps later...

And please stop criticising me. I did not meant to start an idiotic argument.

Let's be straight, clear and look at some things realistically, rather than pitting drivers against each other and getting nasty.

Alan doesn't race, dude. He can learn, no one is stopping him. But people sitting idle for 25min and going back out is not "learning". It's flat out senseless. Maybe he knows that now. On my map, it looked like he was doing it to screw with whoever was behind me. If he wasn't doing it to screw with him, it makes even less sense. We already settled that one.

There were too many issues at apricot hill to submit reports this time around if the same things happened. Like rejoining the track when you shouldn't. See, these aren't things you learn. These are common sense items. You have to realize that we need to try and keep it fun for EVERYONE. Usually...I'm really trying, dude. Balls to the walls and racing each other HARD. That is fun to me and most other racers.

You complaining about us complaining...because we're complaining...lol ok mak. Consider this, again: We all want to have fun. It might be all in good fun for you to have your races ruined or qualifying ruined...however it is not for others. Mamaghi is not quitting because he is a "pro"and has an "ego". From what I've seen, he just didn't have the patience. Him and me have been within a half sec of each other in two different cars.

You said it yourself, some people are learning. When you mix people who are learning with people who do top couple hundred in seasonals...people will get annoyed at various things. Whether it is experienced drivers appearing too aggressive or novices getting in the way/causing accidents. The current qualifying setup eliminates those issues, so EVERYONE can have fun. And swallowing racing incidents...some of us don't like to do that either. They shouldn't occur, first if all. But they will and it sometimes takes whining to have people or rules set straight.
Some of us spend a fair amount of time getting a car together, practicing, etc. That's part of the fun. If other people don't want to, that is fine. But some people do and get turned off when they put in time and effort, only for xyz to happen to them because someone else's idea of fun is much different and didn't care.

Some people want to win lol and have fun being very competitive with each other...that is why racing is fun..competition... When you know you can compete with someone and that is taken away...makes you want to stop lol.

I don't really care if an incident is intentional or not. If someone doesn't know better than to avoid a collision or how not to cause one - people will get mad. If you lose control, that is another story. Unless you rear end someone. Either way, I don't like the fact that people who take it as seriously as any other coordinated series get told to be quiet in this series. Just because x person doesn't care if they get hit or they don't care about their results...doesn't mean x person should expect or make other people approach it in that manner, too. Just like we don't expect everyone else to take it very seriously. Just ask seriously enough so that everyone can have fun. It is a gtp series, not a Monday night fun ride around Zahara or casual nightly play - people will get competitive. It is what it is.

When you enter a GTP championship/series, expect some people to approach it differently than yourself and don't tell to them not care as much. If we are not running you off the track and making your race unhappy, don't ruin the WHOLE series for people who just want things to go cleanly and competitively. That is racing at it's finest, after all.

Idk what your problem is, but you just pushed your own carefree attitude in regards to the series onto mamaghi and he left. Keep up the good work. When you antagonize someone enough, eventually they're going to say some things that are mean because they're at their wits end. He wouldn't have talked crap, if you didn't critique him for having reasonable expectations. Calling him princess and crap - what a joke. If that is where you go when people bother you, you going to drive a lot of other people off, too.

Faster or slower shouldn't matter to anyone. It has nothing to do with fast or slow. It is etiquette and common sense and the lack thereof.

That said, Mt Pan was great and I think most people are getting more comfortable. BTW, smiley is doing a great job with the series. You wouldn't even know it is his first go at running one. He sat back and let people whine to a point and stepped in when it was too much.

I think we at least all form the most part share the opinion that we should be civil. The FGTA series I'm doing right now - people get heated often for a day or two following the race and then we're back to complimenting each other and such for the next two weeks until the following race. That's racing. Everything blows over in a day or two. I think we've settled what we can for now until Saturday. If something big crops up again, we'll deal with it. For now, let's leave everything nasty and the arguing where it lies. I've exhausted my complaints and I'm sure everyone else has there own, no matter whether if was for or against xyz. There will inevitably be more in the future and that'll get settled and blow over, too.

 

[Mamaghi]

As Yadeeg said, The situation is not that dramatical, those things happen all the time, a simple misunderstanding between me and Mac "it's normal I'm more windows " . He had to use Prince instead of Princess. that's all . No i really had no intention to hurt anyone. I apologize if so, especially to smiley who is doing very well and who deserve all our support to make this series successful.

 

[daan]

lol, are we in a class room or something ? where would you like us to go ? train station, Underground metro station to solve the problem ?.

You can go where ever you would like. We don't want your drama happening here.

Sorry mate but as a moderator you had to delete posts with Inappropriate behavior like :
. then if you want to blame us or something, you can do it using private messages. that's my point of view

Sorry, but as a moderator, I moderate as I see fit. I saw fit to tell you both to stop it. I can hand out official warnings via PM if you'd prefer.

• You will, if asked by a representative of the forums, cease posting any content.

 

[Brutaka]

On a lighter note, please put me under reserve because my time commitments for this series is all outta whack.

 

[SmileyWRX]

On a lighter note, please put me under reserve because my time commitments for this series is all outta whack.

No worries mate. Hope to see you soon on track 👍

 

[IfAndOr]

On a lighter note, please put me under reserve because my time commitments for this series is all outta whack.

That's a shame. I was looking forward to some more Astra battles.

Here's some picture from Mt Panorama...

 

[IfAndOr]

To take the pictures above I've spent the afternoon watching through the highlights of both races quite a few times just to get the right angles etc.
Now since Yadeegson was complaining about an incident with Alan, during my viewing I paid particular attention to both their cars to see what the problem was.

I've come to the conclusion Alan is being blamed somewhat unfairly.

Now while Alan is a slightly erratic driver (and I'm sure he'd admit to it because his car was a bit damaged at times!), what I did see was him trying to keep out of everyone's way to the best of his ability. He even slowed down a couple of times to let cars past.
He did pull over (well off the track and hidden behind the barriers) at some times and waited awhile to I assume let the faster drivers speed by. When he did pull back on he always stopped until the road was clear before carrying on. The waiting may at first appear slightly odd, but in doing so he was avoiding spoiling the race for anyone else so...

The only incident that I think Yadeegson can be referring to was not between him and Lex or Makovics but was with me. It was towards the end of race one. We'd been battling for for a few laps. I was in front for awhile but inevitably he eventually got by me, but I was just about keeping up. Alan was stopped, but when we had passed by, the track was clear and he rejoined. The reason we got "involved" with him was because he took his pit stop on his next lap and so we caught up with him. Yadeegson passed him fairly well just before the Conrod straight, because Alan pulled to the left. I was then between them down the straight. Alan's Audi out accelerated my Astra so he didn't impede me at all. He took the last few corners quite well and I eventually caught him up on the final bend. Down the pit straight he pulled to the right to let me pass - and in doing so he touched the grass and crashed into the sand trap. And I continued my (fruitless) chase of Yadeegson.

So in summery and to remove some of the exaggerations.

• Alan DID NOT jump out onto the track right in front of me - We caught up with him.
• He DID NOT try to hold me off - He let me pass and others.
  
• He DID NOT sit for 25 minutes. Perhaps for a couple of laps at a time. And well off track.
  
• As far as I could see he didn't unduly impede anyone else.

I'm really not trying to restart any arguments here, so please, please don't flare up anyone. I just thought I'd put things straight after viewing the replays, rather than from memory.

 

[V8-Johnboy]

@SmileyWRX very simple solution to all this garbage ya know

 

[Malcolm Tucker]

I don't know who's wrong or who's right but all of this is pretty disrespectful to Smiley, who's put a lot of effort into running this series and from the outside it looks like he's done a great job. Out of respect this should've been moved to PM a long time ago tbh