Deliberate last corner crashes
- Thread starter Marckyboy
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- 1,056
- Braga, Portugal
- pedrocor
Yes, but you can send your rival off the track without needing a big smash, if you are close enough. It's a question of risk management. Risk a bump and no penalty (but could bite you, if isn't soft enough to escape penalty and not strong enough to take the rival out of contention if you have to manage a penalty) or make sure your rival will be out of contention in case of penalty (in this case you have to be sure not being caught by other people back on order)
Of course, if you are "miles" back, you'll need to dive without braking into your rival's back or side.
- 371
- Boston, MA
- Chimuel
- Chimuel
I disagree, I went for a gap that was open. Had it been the reverse (and it has happened to where I'm on the receiving end of a position gaining bump), I let it go and just do my best to catch up and pass.
I do agree with your last bit, people tend to be their worst when it's anonymous faceless people on the internet they interact with... such a shame that it's like this but hopefully the sore losers who can't stand to lose their spot just stop playing after a while and we're left with more people who actually want to race hard and fairly.
- 946
- Netherlands
- Shottah072
- 371
- Boston, MA
- Chimuel
- Chimuel
Fine, 3 people say I'm a dirty racer (4 if you include the punter!)
I saw a gap (at least at the moment I did) so of course I'm going to take it. Well, lesson learned and will try to avoid this situation in the future all together *fingers crossed* Maybe I've taken this famous quote to heart a bit much then:
Funny enough, Senna saying that was due to a controversial incident as well.
- 946
- Netherlands
- Shottah072
When you are 2-3 car lenghts behind in the braking zone there is no gap for a clean pass. And obviously neither of you have the skill Senna or his competitors had so dont pull that card.
Kaj made a mistake and lost some speed mid corner. A clean driver would have reacted, slowed down a bit to avoid him if needed and take a better exit and overtake him easy on the straight. Instead you went balls deep trying to outbrake a car from 2-3 car lengths away diving in a gap that was not really there to begin with leaving you with no control left to avoid contact when that 'gap' closes.
- 371
- Boston, MA
- Chimuel
- Chimuel
Dude, I get it. No need for an angry rant.
- 946
- Netherlands
- Shottah072
- 371
- Boston, MA
- Chimuel
- Chimuel
I don't think he did to be honest, we were back and forth on the reddit thread some more today but I get the feeling he's still feeling justified for his actions at the end. I did apologize to Kaj for my mistake but an apology from Kaj has yet to happen.
- 227
- California
- My-Kull
At least we're discussing our expectations from the system and the rules and customs. Well done for that, OP. And now we all know a little more about good driving in circumstances where passing is impossible. Driving realistically makes it more of a sim and less of a game.
- 4,917
- Berlin, Germany
- bmxmitch1
Well, you're in S class, so good for you.
But racing in B, its pretty much bumper cars every race. Kids just don't know when and how to pass fair and the game wont punish them enough for ramming into corners.
Someone ruined my race yesterday in the last round of Suzuka, spinned me of, I lost 5 places and got a 10 sec penalty. He just had to let of the gas, but he kept pushing me. And that happens a lot! At least in SR B+
- 1,245
- Greece
Well, you're in S class, so good for you.
But racing in B, its pretty much bumper cars every race. Kids just don't know when and how to pass fair and the game wont punish them enough for ramming into corners.
Someone ruined my race yesterday in the last round of Suzuka, spinned me of, I lost 5 places and got a 10 sec penalty. He just had to let of the gas, but he kept pushing me. And that happens a lot! At least in SR B+
Dirty drivers are in the SR S too mate.I am there,never dropped down in my ratings and have faced a lot of people that you cannot call "clean" (I dont care if they do it by accident or on purpuse.The result is the same. Plus you cannot make the same mistake and hit people from behind in almost every single corner,especially when you dont have the same pace with them-I've seen that too-).
- 36,697
- Scotland
- GTP_daan
Not quite last corner, but it started at the last braking event.
A guy in a red Clio in 3rd, took out the 2 white ones ahead of him. Red guy then quit. There as then a bit of bumping and barging out of the last corner. All of which meant I went from 7th to 2nd. Thanks very much.
A guy in a red Clio in 3rd, took out the 2 white ones ahead of him. Red guy then quit. There as then a bit of bumping and barging out of the last corner. All of which meant I went from 7th to 2nd. Thanks very much.
- 1,245
- Greece
This is a proper demolution derby.BTW those 2 whites hit each other and the red is behind,cutting corner and did not hit those 2 (at least in the start of the video) -propably got a nice 10 sec pen for it-.
One white falls behind,the red quit the race and the other white goes left/right to keep his possition.
- 36,697
- Scotland
- GTP_daan
No, the red hit one white into the other like a weird game of snooker. I was there.
- 1,245
- Greece
- 3,131
- IL, USA
- DigitalBaka
- DigitalBaka587
I've seen people get pretty aggressive on the last lap both trying to pass and defend. Not too often but enough that I expect it.
In the Monday DPY Sport race the Toyota ahead took too much curb on the second to last corner and put 3 tires into the grass. I hung back expecting a spin but he kept it together well enough. He was obviously slower so I took a tighter line to avoid him and tried to get by to the last braking zone. He was juuuuuust fast enough to stay ahead and cut over right in front as we started to brake. Myself and the Lexus behind cut inside on him and he turned into both of us. I believe he spun off wide and the Lexus went off to the inside grass while I managed to keep together enough to finish without stuffing it into the pit wall.
I think for the most part where I'm at in SRS DRC, most contact is not intentional. Seems to be mostly people not knowing their limits and being too aggressive with others on the track. Every now and then though...
In the Monday DPY Sport race the Toyota ahead took too much curb on the second to last corner and put 3 tires into the grass. I hung back expecting a spin but he kept it together well enough. He was obviously slower so I took a tighter line to avoid him and tried to get by to the last braking zone. He was juuuuuust fast enough to stay ahead and cut over right in front as we started to brake. Myself and the Lexus behind cut inside on him and he turned into both of us. I believe he spun off wide and the Lexus went off to the inside grass while I managed to keep together enough to finish without stuffing it into the pit wall.
I think for the most part where I'm at in SRS DRC, most contact is not intentional. Seems to be mostly people not knowing their limits and being too aggressive with others on the track. Every now and then though...
- 1,443
- Conquerer13
I was victim to a last corner divebomb at Suzuka last week. Really pissed me off that the guy didn't get a penalty considering all the factors. Last lap, last corner, aggressive divebomb that sent me off track... I mean, how is that not a slam dunk? It's the 2nd part of the chicane... you don't pass there, certainly not by forcing the lead driver off the track.
- 369
- Ohio
I had a guy do something similar at the same spot last night in the dailies.
Last lap, I’m in second having just passed coming on to the long uphill straight. I knew the guy was dirty because as I was passing he swerved to try and slow me down by knocking me off track but he was too slow and I was already past.
As I’m heading towards the breaking zone into the chicane I took a tight line to the first apex expecting to get punted. I took it extra slow and he did hit me but not hard enough. I did get 2 wheels onto the grass but was able to avoid a cutting penalty and cut him off as he rounded the second half of the chicane. The collision straightened me out and I kept my position finishing 2nd.
LAVAMAN_82
(Banned)
- 54
- United Kingdom
2nd is first loser. I can understand dirty tricks if it's for the win, but for second place?! Second may as well be last IMO
- 369
- Ohio
I don’t understand it for any position. A shame if that’s truly how you view racing.
- 658
- Canada
Last night i got punted in last corner going for 4th place and the driver apologized in chat after the race. It was no big deal since I didn't crash or spin out and dropped 2 places and i didn't get any SR reduction.
Besides that I have yet to be punted intentionally and have had quite a few side by side close races going to the finish line without the other driver trying to shove me off, I'm thankful for that because in some other racing games like Forza that always happens.
Besides that I have yet to be punted intentionally and have had quite a few side by side close races going to the finish line without the other driver trying to shove me off, I'm thankful for that because in some other racing games like Forza that always happens.
- 1,245
- Greece
So if you go for a win its kinda "legit" (or "reasonable") to be a "little" dirty but not the case if you are going for P7.Did I get it right?
- 780
- United States
LAVAMAN_82
(Banned)
- 54
- United Kingdom
I said I can understand these dirty tactics if it's for the win... I didn't say I agreed with them or condoned such moves. What I can't understand is why anyone would cheat to secure a second place finish. There are no prizes for second place in this game.
- 1,245
- Greece
I got your point mate.
Now even if you finish 2nd you can gain something.DR points.
If you finish in better position than the one you started you get DR +.So you may not "win" but you get DR boost.
- 28,470
- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
For the same reason they cheat to win. Because the higher placing is more important than their personal integrity. Depending on one's level of integrity, finishing 2ND last might be worth a divebomb. There are no prizes for first place at this level either.
LAVAMAN_82
(Banned)
- 54
- United Kingdom
But there are prizes for first, and here lies the root cause for the underhand tactics we are frequently seeing in order to take the win... A certain trophy that requires one to equal Michael Schumacher's record of 91 F1 victories... If not for that one little trophy I think racing in sport mode would be a lot more civil. People want 91 wins and will do anything to get it.
