Did Kerry just swing an election ?

[ledhed]

Mr. Kerry said: “You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

Senator Kerry IMO just called every single one of America's troops..." stupid "

Last time I looked around the United States was at war . The troops that serve us and fight and die for our country do not nor did they determine who to fight and when . The troops serve all of us.... the American people and go where we send them , when we send them and do the best they can to fight and win for us..... Democrats and Republicans and independent...every man women and child in the US .
They do not deserve nor did they earn this type of disrespect . The US Military is the finest in the world . It is all volunteer and sets high standards for enlistment . we operate some of the highest technology ever seen on a battlefield.

How can this elite piece of crap ....this still warm dog dropping of a human specimen....... have the gall to say such a thing ?

*** Bias alert * I can't stand the man..I even hesitate to use the term man because I think it gives that turd too much credit and do not want to insult men in general. ***


Back to being objective ..... We are down to the last days of a close election ...in many states polls show virtual deadlocks and voter turn out will determine who wins . Its bad enough he made the statement ...it could have been just a few days of Democrats and Kerry are just idiots..and gone away.
All the slime had to do was apologies .

guess what He did?

He blamed Bush.💡

Can you think of anything a Democrat could do ...outside of buggering a cocker spaniel on National TV , that will do more to drive Republicans and undecided voters out to vote.. ?

Could this guy have done more to put the focus on himself and energize all those who feel the democrats suck on security and military issues ?

Those remarks were denounced by Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and, like Kerry, a veteran of the Vietnam conflict, as well as a group of House Republicans.

"Senator Kerry owes an apology to the many thousands of Americans serving in Iraq, who answered their country's call because they are patriots and not because of any deficiencies in their education," McCain said Tuesday.

McCain said any suggestion that only the poorly educated would agree to serve in Iraq is "an insult to every soldier serving in combat."

Representative Jack Kingston of Georgia, vice chairman of the House Republican Conference, wrote a letter to Kerry in which he called for "a clear and simple apology, without caveat or explanation." The letter was signed by 18 other House Republicans.

The White house spokesman, Tony Snow, asserted that Kerry's speech "sort of fits a pattern" of criticizing American troops in Iraq. "This is an absolute insult, and I'm a little astonished that he didn't figure it out already," he said. "If I say something stupid, I apologize as quickly as possible."

But if anyone should apologize, Kerry said, it is Bush and his administration officials who started the ill-conceived war. He said his remarks had been distorted and called the criticism directed at him the work of "assorted right-wing nut jobs and right-wing talk show hosts."

"If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy," Kerry said in a statement. "I'm sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did." * Note 1

At a televised news conference Tuesday in Seattle, Kerry said he was "disgusted" by the Republican attacks, which he noted were coming at the end of a bloody month in Iraq. "Sadly, this is the best this administration can do," he said.

Kerry did not mention McCain in his statement, although at the news conference he said McCain should seek an apology from Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney if he wants an apology from anyone.

Kerry and McCain, separated by party and political philosophy but united by their experiences in Vietnam combat, have been described before as having a friendly relationship. McCain is also viewed as a potential rival in the 2008 presidential race.

Bush stepped up the language on Iraq on Monday while campaigning for Republican candidates in Georgia and Texas. "However they put it, the Democrat approach in Iraq comes down to this," he said. "The terrorists win and America loses."

Did Kerry blow not only his own chances of ever running for President ...but did he also screw the democrats in this coming election ?

*** Kerry's war record is up for dispute . But what he did after the war calling every soldier in Vietnam a rapist and a terrorist and criminals is NOT . This FOOL counts on no one remembering him being a radical activist after his tour in Vietnam . And all the not so nice things he called every American soldier then .

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/10/31/news/kerry.php


If I was a Democrat I would do a Chenney on the guy and take him out hunting...maybe blow his mouth off...he is working hard to make the Democrats an endangered species....he is too far left..along with his scum bag aspects its killing them .

 

[Danoff]

Is it possible that he was just trying to call the president an idiot? Perhaps he was saying that kids should get an education, because if they don't, and they become president, they might be stupid enough to go to war with Iraq.

Just a thought. It certainly didn't come out that way, that's for sure. It sounded like he was saying that the military is fully of flunkies.

Not smart regardless.

 

[ledhed]

Is it possible that he was just trying to call the president an idiot? Perhaps he was saying that kids should get an education, because if they don't, and they become president, they might be stupid enough to go to war with Iraq.

Just a thought. It certainly didn't come out that way, that's for sure. It sounded like he was saying that the military is fully of flunkies.

Not smart regardless.

You tell me ..

Kerry remarks add fuel to intense Iraq debate
By David Stout The New York Times

Published: October 31, 2006


WASHINGTON Debate over the Iraq war reached a new level of intensity Tuesday, with Republicans accusing Senator John Kerry of insulting rank- and-file American troops and Kerry, a Massachusetts Democrat, lashing back at some of his tormentors as "assorted right-wing nut jobs."

The latest dispute was another example of the heated rhetoric surrounding the war issue as the congressional elections approach on Tuesday. President George W. Bush said Monday that a Democratic triumph in the races for the House and Senate would amount to a victory for terrorists.

Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate who is believed to be considering another run for the White House in 2008, set the stage for bitter back-and-forth as he addressed a gathering Monday at Pasadena City College in California.

The senator, who was campaigning for the Democratic gubernatorial candidate, Phil Angelides, opened with several one-liners, joking at one point that Bush had lived in Texas but now "lives in a state of denial."

Then, Kerry said: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Those remarks were denounced by Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and, like Kerry, a veteran of the Vietnam conflict, as well as a group of House Republicans.

"Senator Kerry owes an apology to the many thousands of Americans serving in Iraq, who answered their country's call because they are patriots and not because of any deficiencies in their education," McCain said Tuesday.

McCain said any suggestion that only the poorly educated would agree to serve in Iraq is "an insult to every soldier serving in combat."

Representative Jack Kingston of Georgia, vice chairman of the House Republican Conference, wrote a letter to Kerry in which he called for "a clear and simple apology, without caveat or explanation." The letter was signed by 18 other House Republicans.

The White house spokesman, Tony Snow, asserted that Kerry's speech "sort of fits a pattern" of criticizing American troops in Iraq. "This is an absolute insult, and I'm a little astonished that he didn't figure it out already," he said. "If I say something stupid, I apologize as quickly as possible."

But if anyone should apologize, Kerry said, it is Bush and his administration officials who started the ill-conceived war. He said his remarks had been distorted and called the criticism directed at him the work of "assorted right-wing nut jobs and right-wing talk show hosts."

"If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy," Kerry said in a statement. "I'm sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did."

At a televised news conference Tuesday in Seattle, Kerry said he was "disgusted" by the Republican attacks, which he noted were coming at the end of a bloody month in Iraq. "Sadly, this is the best this administration can do," he said.

Kerry did not mention McCain in his statement, although at the news conference he said McCain should seek an apology from Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney if he wants an apology from anyone.

Kerry and McCain, separated by party and political philosophy but united by their experiences in Vietnam combat, have been described before as having a friendly relationship. McCain is also viewed as a potential rival in the 2008 presidential race.

Bush stepped up the language on Iraq on Monday while campaigning for Republican candidates in Georgia and Texas. "However they put it, the Democrat approach in Iraq comes down to this," he said. "The terrorists win and America loses."

WASHINGTON Debate over the Iraq war reached a new level of intensity Tuesday, with Republicans accusing Senator John Kerry of insulting rank- and-file American troops and Kerry, a Massachusetts Democrat, lashing back at some of his tormentors as "assorted right-wing nut jobs."

The latest dispute was another example of the heated rhetoric surrounding the war issue as the congressional elections approach on Tuesday. President George W. Bush said Monday that a Democratic triumph in the races for the House and Senate would amount to a victory for terrorists.

Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate who is believed to be considering another run for the White House in 2008, set the stage for bitter back-and-forth as he addressed a gathering Monday at Pasadena City College in California.

The senator, who was campaigning for the Democratic gubernatorial candidate, Phil Angelides, opened with several one-liners, joking at one point that Bush had lived in Texas but now "lives in a state of denial."

Then, Kerry said: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq

The thing is ...all this idiot had to do was say; " I am sorry I did not mean it that way. It was stupid remark , I love the troops blah blah blah"..


Its now on every TV show and news station in America that Kery call tthe troops idiots...


I am working on the Casey Campaign to get rid of Santorum...( he's a democrat go figure . Do you think we needed this CRAP... NOW

You want the republicans pisssed over the war ...not uniting because an idiot elitist scumbag can't keep his mouth shut.

OMG...the man that could not beat Bush....they should have just shot him after the election...now the idiots trying to lose everyones election !



Its bad....

 

[Tornado]

I laugh at how stupid Kerry is. If he was halfway competent he could have capitalised on his Vietnam experience and used it to denounce Iraq back in 2004, but he screwed that up to. Not to mention how Kerry was a soldier.

 

[Danoff]

Kerry was supposed to say, "I can't overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq."

It was supposed to be a criticism of the president. I don't think this will turn out to be a big deal.

 

[ledhed]

Its bad its on EVERY news station he is being DESTROYED and of course is being used to paint all Democrats as a " Kerry ".

A Democrat said it best.." he lost us the 2004 election now he's trying to lose us the 2006 elections and he isn't even running " .

No more focus on issues ...just how dumb Kerry is ...

It was supposed to be a criticism of the president. I don't think this will turn out to be a big deal.

Ummm huh yea ok....this is US politics.....NO ONE will believe it even if CNN is working for the Democrats ...cripes..I just watched ABC WNT...they killed Kerry..and they are one of the more liberal biased TV shows...not quite as bad as CNN .

My phone is ringing off the hook with DEMOCRATS calling for him to be at least skinned alive on pay per view ....


I'm just glad I am not on the phones tonight. I was given a time out because I called a guy an idiot and asked him why he was registered a Democrat...after he told me he was voting for Santorum because he was against abortion and was a conservative and thought Casey was too far left ( ) .

http://www.bobcasey.com/


I hate to think what a right winger is to that guy....anyway..... They want me to be more of a people person and leave my gun home .

 

[Keichi Tsuchiya]

*** Bias alert * I can't stand the man..I even hesitate to use the term man because I think it gives that turd too much credit and do not want to insult men in general. ***

That's more than I can say for Bush. (Joking...kinda)

But personally, I didn't see it that way. I took it quite literally at first, as in : If you don't make an effort to better yourself mentally, you'll end up without little choice: flipping burgers or in Iraq.
In this sense I see some logic. If I want to develop my opinion however, I'll have to do a little research.

 

[Danoff]

But personally, I didn't see it that way. I took it quite literally at first, as in : If you don't make an effort to better yourself mentally, you'll end up without little choice: flipping burgers or in Iraq.

That's what people thought he meant... and that's why everyone is ticked.

 

[ledhed]

My Nephew went to St Josephs prep on a scholorship and graduated with honors . He was in the R.O.T.C. program ...he volunteered to go to Iraq and is on his second tour. He is a .50 gunner and provides security for convoys.

Kerry isn't worth a drop off sweat of my nephews butt.

I do not feel oblged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intendended us to forgo their use - galileo

kerry should live by this .

 

[McLaren]

So ol' moron Kerry is at it again, eh?

I see he hasn't stopped bragging about his time in war. Big deal. So was Clinton and looked how...opps, I guess it wasn't that good.

Kerry is just an idiot. People fighting in Iraq are very intelligent. How the hell did he think those army surgeons became surgeons?

Well, I lean towards Republicans anyways, and Kerry's remarks remind me of why. What an idiot.

 

[vladimir]

so your fighting the insurgents with surgeons? no suprise its not working out... 👍
j/k...


don't the republicans have anything else to impress the voters anymore?
like something they have achieved themselves instead of a badly phrased statement of the opposition?

to me it was very obvious what kerry wanted to express but of course the GOP has to hold on tight to every last straw. i think this bitching is way more ridiculous than the statement itself. it really shows how desperate the US government is...

 

[Tornado]

to me it was very obvious what kerry wanted to express but of course the GOP has to hold on tight to every last straw. i think this bitching is way more ridiculous than the statement itself. it really shows how desperate the US government is...

Being someone who more-or-less swings to the left, I have to say that while you are right in the Republicans showing their acomplishments; the fact of the matter is that Kerry really needs to learn to shut the #### up. He really doesn't seem to know what he is talking about, and is seemingly is only saying stupid stuff now to attract attention to himself.

 

[TopHat]

Ever hear of the book: LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER? Yeah, I now that Mike Savage is a fruggin nut, but it illustrates my dislike of the democratic party simply. Also, I'm only 13. You have a problem when teenagers are critizizing your political campaign.


P.S.- I am a smart 13 year old... IQ of 123!

 

[Solid Fro]

This is what happens in America when you do not take responsibility for your actions.



The President strikes back:

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/31/video-bush-rips-kerry-for-comments-about-troops/

Bill Bennett and Tony Snow reactions and Kerry's response:

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/31/kerry-responds-to-right-wing-chickenhawk-nut-jobs/

 

[Zrow]

Kerry is just an idiot. People fighting in Iraq are very intelligent. How the hell did he think those army surgeons became surgeons?

Well, I lean towards Republicans anyways, and Kerry's remarks remind me of why. What an idiot.

That's not what he meant to say. I'm no Kerry supporter, but I'm gonna stick up for him here.

Anyway, it's not like Bush doesn't make mistakes in his speeches pretty often.

 

[a6m5]

guess what He did?

He blamed Bush.💡

You know my stance on Iraq, so I didn't automatically dislike Kerry. However, all I've heard from the Kerry's Presidential campaign was, Bush did this and that, he shouldn't have done this or that. He truly is an expert at blaming Bush, and he does it so much, that's all I hear from this guy. I really think that is why he lost so much credibility from the public.

to me it was very obvious what kerry wanted to express but of course the GOP has to hold on tight to every last straw. i think this bitching is way more ridiculous than the statement itself. it really shows how desperate the US government is...

Maybe not to you, but Kerry messed up. BIG TIME. When a mistake of this magnitude is made, no matter the party, it will become big news. We will be hearing about it non-stop, kinda like when Cheney shot his hunting buddy, I'm thinking.

Edit:

Anyway, it's not like Bush doesn't make mistakes in his speeches pretty often.

I think Bush does fine on speeches........ for an ESL student.

 

[red70mach1]

Kerry to me is the STUPID ONE.

 

[Swift]

It's amazing. Kerry insults the entire armed forces, intentional or not, and the democrats say, "no big deal" Mark Foley sends some emails to a page, RESIGNS, and it's still the biggest deal and his boss should resign as well. Amazaing...👎

I really hope this opens the eyes of people to what the liberals in America are about.

 

[Zrow]

It's not a big deal. He wasn't insulting the armed forces. He left out two words that made a huge difference in the sentence.

Not that liberals don't take cheap shots at Bush's...Bushisms, but this is no better.

 

[Swift]

It's not a big deal. He wasn't insulting the armed forces. He left out two words that made a huge difference in the sentence.

Not that liberals don't take cheap shots at Bush's...Bushisms, but this is no better.

You take his words directly and it's an insult to the military. Now, maybe he was tired, drunk, high, whatever. But he said you can study or end up in Iraq, that sounds like a pretty bad insult to me.

How else can it be interpreted?

 

[Zrow]

You take his words directly and it's an insult to the military. Now, maybe he was tired, drunk, high, whatever. But he said you can study or end up in Iraq, that sounds like a pretty bad insult to me.

How else can it be interpreted?

Him accidently fudging his words and leaving two out:

"End up getting us stuck in Iraq."

- which is obviously directed towards Bush.



My real point is that this doesn't have anything to do with the election and liberals, and shouldn't be made into something it's not as there are more important issues at hand.

 

[a6m5]

I got a question.

Did Kerry make the correction right away? Or through press release or something, much later?

My real point is that this doesn't have anything to do with the election and liberals, and shouldn't be made into something it's not as there are more important issues at hand.

Agreed........ but you know how that goes.

 

[Swift]

Him accidently fudging his words and leaving two out:

"End up getting us stuck in Iraq."

- which is obviously directed towards Bush.



My real point is that this doesn't have anything to do with the election and liberals, and shouldn't be made into something it's not as there are more important issues at hand.

Did he slip? Who knows. But he DID NOT immediately fix what he said.

 

[a6m5]

Looks like he did make the correction much later.

And I saw the video. Looks to me like he said what he meant to say. Plus, he was talking to bunch of college students, so I can see why he joked the way he did. Everybody makes mistakes. He should have just apologized, not dig the hole deeper by making up some b.s. story.

I saw the video here: CNN

 

[ledhed]

so your fighting the insurgents with surgeons? no suprise its not working out... 👍
j/k...


don't the republicans have anything else to impress the voters anymore?
like something they have achieved themselves instead of a badly phrased statement of the opposition?

to me it was very obvious what kerry wanted to express but of course the GOP has to hold on tight to every last straw. i think this bitching is way more ridiculous than the statement itself. it really shows how desperate the US government is...

You completely miss the point...the democrats were doing fairly well until that buffoon opened his stupid mouth and made his statement...then he made it worse by not apologizing immediately...are you that naive , that you do not understand how politics work ? Why should the Republicans do anything if the OTHER side has a moron like this guy that will go out and win VOTES FOR THEM ? Get realistic....this is the same idiot that sais american troops are running around murdering Iraqi's and compared them to attilla the Hun ... His stupidity is worth giving each person in the US a hundred bucks not to vote for a Democrat ..

His was a double hit...he made good democrats with sons and Daughters in the military ...and there are more than you can imagine rethink their vote and he also took all the pissed off republicans unhappy with the way things are going and REMINDED them how much WORSE it could be ...

Thats how you get slaughtered in an election .

Someone should kidnap him and hide him until its over .💡

 

[Solid Fro]

Kerry has a track record of hating the American soldier.

"They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country." - John Kerry, Legislative Proposals Relating to the War in Southeast Asia Thursday, April 22, 1971 United States Senate, Committee on Foreign Relations, Washington, D.C.

"And there is no reason that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the – of – the historical customs, religious customs, whether you like it or not ... Iraqis should be doing that." - John Kerry, "Face the Nation", December 4, 2005.

Kerry is getting the American G.I. confused with Al-Qaeda and the Viet Cong.

 

[FoolKiller]

Him accidently fudging his words and leaving two out:

"End up getting us stuck in Iraq."

- which is obviously directed towards Bush.

Wait, so if I spent my college days partying I have a good chance of becoming president? Is that what he meant to say? Or was he trying to say that he lost an election to an idiot?

No matter how this gets spun it sounds bad. He either insults troops, ivy league schools, or Al Gore and himself.

A friend at work said he wouldn't be surprised to see a picture of Howard Dean sucker punching Kerry in the face.

 

[ledhed]

Him accidentally fudging his words and leaving two out:

"End up getting us stuck in Iraq."

- which is obviously directed to wards Bush.



My real point is that this doesn't have anything to do with the election and liberals, and shouldn't be made into something it's not as there are more important issues at hand.

You know what ...after reading a transcript of the entire speech and watching the video...I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, if thats what you want to think he meant. It is possible he, being a professional politician who gives these types of speeches all the time , meant to say something along the lines of what his apologist are saying he meant to say...not that he has apologized himself...only those that recognize the damage he caused his own party. Along with the fact that if he ever decides to run again for President ...they now have another sound bite to accurately quote showing how much disdain he has for our troops.
You have to realize while you are trying to put his words in context and try to interpret what he really meant to say , that he has a history ....going back to the Vietnam era ......of ridiculing and insulting , along with disparaging and accusing our troops of being criminals . So why you even want to give him the benefit of the doubt on this particular episode of " Kerry insults the troops " (again ) . is beyond me.

To quote a Democrat..." He lost us the election in 2004 now he is losing us an election in 2006 and he isn't even running , why do we need a John Kerry ? " .

"They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country." - John Kerry, Legislative Proposals Relating to the War in Southeast Asia Thursday, April 22, 1971 United States Senate, Committee on Foreign Relations, Washington, D.C.

"And there is no reason that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the – of – the historical customs, religious customs, whether you like it or not ... Iraqis should be doing that." - John Kerry, "Face the Nation", December 4, 2005.


Mr. Kerry said: “You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

Get a good look at it. because if Kerry ever decides to run for dog catcher this is what he is labeled as.
He can try to make believe he's a tough old war vet like he attempted to do during the 2004 campaign...but his own words and the memories of those who were around him will always be there to bring the people back to reality .

I'd say his future is not looking too good...

 

[Small_Fryz]

Kerry's got a long way ahead of him if wants to catch up with bush in terms of stupid things said and done.

 

[ledhed]

Kerry's got a long way ahead of him if wants to catch up with bush in terms of stupid things said and done.

Bush is a two term President ...whats kerry besides a dumbass and a loser ?