Digital Racecraft Tuning - ZR1 At The Nordschleife

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Raven,

Your work on the NSX is... bizarre to say the least. It was essentially the complete opposite direction to my tune. I was a bit sceptical to say the least.

My tune was very tail happy and tuned to behave like a go-kart, this meant it was very quick through the infield - reasonable on the straights but really struggled on the bus stop.

What I noticed with your tune is how quick it is through the bus stop. After a few laps getting used to the tune, at the second and third sectors I was almost a second down on my PB but coming through the 4th sector I was half a second quicker and the added speed took a second off my PB.

Once I got used to being able to power down a lot earlier than was possible before, I was consistently running 1.59's. It would've been 1.58s but I'm shattered and was making stupid mistakes.

Fantastic work 👍 .
 
Big 👍, the NSX is so sweet to drive, highly recommend if you want to be competative at Daytona Road

Thanks.:) And no, you were not sent this tuning by mistake. :sly:

Raven,

Your work on the NSX is... bizarre to say the least. It was essentially the complete opposite direction to my tune. I was a bit sceptical to say the least.

My tune was very tail happy and tuned to behave like a go-kart, this meant it was very quick through the infield - reasonable on the straights but really struggled on the bus stop.

What I noticed with your tune is how quick it is through the bus stop. After a few laps getting used to the tune, at the second and third sectors I was almost a second down on my PB but coming through the 4th sector I was half a second quicker and the added speed took a second off my PB.

Once I got used to being able to power down a lot earlier than was possible before, I was consistently running 1.59's. It would've been 1.58s but I'm shattered and was making stupid mistakes.

Fantastic work 👍 .

Nobody accuses me of tuning plagiarism that's for sure. :lol:

Thank you for such a thought out review. 👍

I would love to try this car raven if you get a chance to send the set up, thanks!

It's in your box now. Cheers.


To everyone who sent requests today, I have responded. :)
 
wow, good tune! All I need to do now is get the hang of the bus stop in this! already 1.5 sec faster from the old car i was using and i can get faster! only drove like 2 races so far
 
Big 👍, the NSX is so sweet to drive, highly recommend if you want to be competative at Daytona Road
Awesome tune Raven, going faster with each lap.:) Very well balanced with great turn in and power off.The setup is so smooth on the infield,the tranny is truly the key.👍 Thanks:cheers:
 
wow, good tune! All I need to do now is get the hang of the bus stop in this! already 1.5 sec faster from the old car i was using and i can get faster! only drove like 2 races so far

The bus stop is tricky. Watch some TT replay's. There is a definate approach angle to the bus stop. :)

Awesome tune Raven, going faster with each lap.:) Very well balanced with great turn in and power off.The setup is so smooth on the infield,the tranny is truly the key.👍 Thanks:cheers:

Thanks for the feedback snake. 👍

Both of you guy's will receive DRT tunes automatically when they come out in the future as subscribed user's.

Cheers.
 
I have to give a big thumbs up to the NSX-R tune for Daytona Road at 550PP.

The extremely tall second gear as you say, feels as though exits during the infield sections are languid and ineffective, but when I had the ghost on from a much more perky gearbox setup using all 6 gears, I was able to keep up and of course gain hand-over-fist on the straights. Also the tall gears limit oversteer but you absolutely have to nail the line and keep steering inputs to an absolute minimum to ensure no loss of momentum...something I find incredibly difficult on a sixaxis, using the D-pad as my preferred style.

I am also impressed that with this tune, on sixaxis with the 50 degree steering angle, on S1 tyres with no traction control, I can keep the car fully under control and pointing the right direction.

I use exactly the same braking markers as I did for the 600PP Ferraris on S2 almost everywhere with the slight exception of the first hairpin, I think turn 3. The brakes are very good and people using pedals can apply gently then more forcefully to get a beautiful and stable entry into the amazing turn 1 of Daytona road.

I managed a 1'59.5xx in the NSX with Raven's tune having gone too wide at turn 3. Plus I always feel I can be faster at the bus stop and turn 1. This is easily a 1'58 tune in the right hands, possibly even mine with a nailed lap.

I am very curious to see how the tune reacts to a S1/S2 setup.

All the best
Maz
 
I have to give a big thumbs up to the NSX-R tune for Daytona Road at 550PP.

The extremely tall second gear as you say, feels as though exits during the infield sections are languid and ineffective, but when I had the ghost on from a much more perky gearbox setup using all 6 gears, I was able to keep up and of course gain hand-over-fist on the straights. Also the tall gears limit oversteer but you absolutely have to nail the line and keep steering inputs to an absolute minimum to ensure no loss of momentum...something I find incredibly difficult on a sixaxis, using the D-pad as my preferred style.

I am also impressed that with this tune, on sixaxis with the 50 degree steering angle, on S1 tyres with no traction control, I can keep the car fully under control and pointing the right direction.

I use exactly the same braking markers as I did for the 600PP Ferraris on S2 almost everywhere with the slight exception of the first hairpin, I think turn 3. The brakes are very good and people using pedals can apply gently then more forcefully to get a beautiful and stable entry into the amazing turn 1 of Daytona road.

I managed a 1'59.5xx in the NSX with Raven's tune having gone too wide at turn 3. Plus I always feel I can be faster at the bus stop and turn 1. This is easily a 1'58 tune in the right hands, possibly even mine with a nailed lap.

I am very curious to see how the tune reacts to a S1/S2 setup.

All the best
Maz

Hello Maz. I'm not sure, but may ask who's tune are you using ? :sly:
 
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I have to give a big thumbs up to the NSX-R tune for Daytona Road at 550PP.

The extremely tall second gear as you say, feels as though exits during the infield sections are languid and ineffective, but when I had the ghost on from a much more perky gearbox setup using all 6 gears, I was able to keep up and of course gain hand-over-fist on the straights. Also the tall gears limit oversteer but you absolutely have to nail the line and keep steering inputs to an absolute minimum to ensure no loss of momentum...something I find incredibly difficult on a sixaxis, using the D-pad as my preferred style.

I am also impressed that with this tune, on sixaxis with the 50 degree steering angle, on S1 tyres with no traction control, I can keep the car fully under control and pointing the right direction.

I use exactly the same braking markers as I did for the 600PP Ferraris on S2 almost everywhere with the slight exception of the first hairpin, I think turn 3. The brakes are very good and people using pedals can apply gently then more forcefully to get a beautiful and stable entry into the amazing turn 1 of Daytona road.

I managed a 1'59.5xx in the NSX with Raven's tune having gone too wide at turn 3. Plus I always feel I can be faster at the bus stop and turn 1. This is easily a 1'58 tune in the right hands, possibly even mine with a nailed lap.

I am very curious to see how the tune reacts to a S1/S2 setup.

All the best
Maz

You nailed it! 👍

What is even more remarkable is the fact that you are a sixaxis user and this tune was done with a wheel.

Nice work running a 1'58.888 in free lap. 👍👍👍

If it's all right with you I'll pm future DR tunings automatically for you to test if you have time.

Thanks again Maz. :)
 
You nailed it! 👍

What is even more remarkable is the fact that you are a sixaxis user and this tune was done with a wheel.

D-pad no less ;)

Nice work running a 1'58.888 in free lap. 👍👍👍

If it's all right with you I'll pm future DR tunings automatically for you to test if you have time.

Thanks again Maz. :)

Hey Rave,

If I have the time and am not involved in any of the official organised events or championships, I'd be happy to try some of your tunes out. I'm not really anyone's official test driver as I do some testing for the Thunder & Lightning race garage that I am a part of and also sometimes use and review Garage TZT tunes, so I am happy to float about between tuners. This is because no one garage's tunes always suit me. But as I say, if I have time I will help out 👍

Hello Maz. I'm not sure, but may ask who's tune are you using ? :sly:

I used Ravenmaven's 4-speed NSX tune on S1s to record the 1'59.563 which later I improved to a 1'59.4xx. Both laps weren't perfect though and I could see a 1'58 was possible.

When I actually ran the 1'58.888 that was with a tune containing many suggestions from GTP_rpm (5-speed) but my own choice of S1/S2.

I have enjoyed running my previously-despised NSX at Daytona so much that I think I might continue trying to get a better time and race with it, at least until the class championships for Event 02 are announced 👍

All the best
Maz
 
Cheers for the tune Ravenmaven. It's hard to believe how stable you got a normally twichy car, without compromising the performance.

You got me into the 1:59s with this tune. Well done.
 
Cheers for the tune Ravenmaven. It's hard to believe how stable you got a normally twichy car, without compromising the performance.

You got me into the 1:59s with this tune. Well done.

:cheers:



Thanks to everyone who requested, tested and left feedback for this model. This particular tuning supported some of the power to weight theories I had been experimenting with in regard to handling in mid and front engine models.

Look here for new settings later this week as the event update is near.

Rave.
 
Hey Raven, I've revived my Suzuki Swift Cup thread again and I'm looking for a variety of tunes for people to use - is it possible for you to supply one?

Cheers :cheers:
 
Hey Raven, I've revived my Suzuki Swift Cup thread again and I'm looking for a variety of tunes for people to use - is it possible for you to supply one?

Cheers :cheers:

Yes. :)

I'll start work on it in a few hours.

Cheers.

Rave
 
Thanks to everyone who tested and used DR settings for Gran Turismo 5: Prologue cars. I will no longer be tuning for this particular version. I look forward to future tuning endeavor's with our great GTPlanet community when the full GT5 version drops. :)
 
Hope to see you around for some racing then! Last time we raced was, dang can't remember!
It was at HSR though with the Ford GTLM car!:sly:👍
 
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The 2009 Corvette ZR1 at the Nordschleife! Talk about a stranger in a strange land. I recently found a video of GM development engineer Jim Mero turning a lap time of 7:26.4 in a reputedly stock ZR1 at the above said ring. The interesting thing for me about the whole event was not the fact that the ZR1 beat the Nissan GT-R’s time of 7:29. But the fact that people were ripping on old Jim Mero for his drive in the post video comments. I thought he had done a pretty good job! I thought maybe these people should try it and see if they do any better or worst. Better yet, why don’t I try. I have GT5!

Since he was driving a stock ZR1 I started out researching the stock components. Once I had my shopping list together I went about buying all of the parts needed in the GT5 tuning shop. So in short, this is not so much a tune as it is a subjective buying guide for the stock ZR1.

Body/Chassis: Nothing to do here. PD’s weight at 1508 kg’s is correct.

Engine Tuning: Again, nothing to add. Stock LS9 Engine. Stock ECU.

Power Limiter: Set to 638hp.

Turbo: Supercharger. How PD omitted this as standard equipment is beyond me.

Intake System: Standard manifold and filter.

Exhaust: The manifolds are very simply ported and I considered them stock. The actual exhaust is valved to close at low rpm’s to reduce noise and open wide at higher speeds for full song. Still, not really a performance feature so considered stock as well. Stock catalytic converter.

Transmission: 6 Speed Close-Ratio. Another unexplained PD omission of standard equipment. Especially when the ratio’s are so easily found online. You cannot adjust the gears to match the ZR1’s exact ratio’s but it’s pretty close. You can get marginally closer with the fully adjustable set but the tooth on tooth whine is annoying and messes up the sound. Here are the closest possible settings for the fully adjustable set if needed.

Set top speed to 205 mph first.
1st gear: 2.764
2nd gear: 1.890
3rd gear: 1.392
4th gear: 1.077
5th gear: 0.875
6th gear: 0.670
Final: 3.420

Drivetrain: The ZR1 uses a twin plate clutch. The semi-racing 6 bolt fly wheel will have to do since the 9 bolt is not an option here. The differential is a stock limited slip. Stock driveshaft as well.

Suspension: This was the most difficult aspect to get together. The ZR1 uses an active electro magnetic fluid ride system that adjusts automatically depending on driving conditions. It also has the “dial in” tour or track type selector control that the driver can operate. Neither is an option in GT5. So for the sake of making the car pull off the 1+g’s of safe cornering it’s said to be capable of I selected the Height-Adjustable Sport Kit even though the OEM system is not height adjustable. I also found the factory camber settings and thought this particular kit would accommodate that nicely. I just need to convert them to GT5 settings. Please let me know if you know how to convert -1.00 degree’s of front and -1.25 degree’s of camber to the rear.

Ride Height: F/0 R/0
Spring Rate: F/10.5 R/10.8
Dampers; F/3 R/3
Camber: F/-0.1 R/-0.2

Brakes: The Bosch system controller is set at 52 and 48. Front and rear respectively. So for the sake of ease….
F/5 R/5

Tires: Sport Medium. Michelin Pilot Sport PS2’s. This was at the time Michelin’s ultra high performance sport summer class tire. To me that means sport soft. They have run a newer ZR1 on super slick sports since 2008 so I'll have to down grade the tires to sport medium.


I drove this set up in practice mode. I'm sure my online lounge drive would be more realistic with tire wear.

Manual Transmission
Traction Control: Off
Skid Recovery Force: Off
Active Steering: Off
ASM: Off
ABS: 1
Grip: Real

So there you have it. Here's a link to the actual ZR1 lap at the Nordschleife. Try the GT5 car out then watch old Jim go round. Neither is boring.

You may have noticed if you've gone to the first page that I have some housekeeping to do yet (all that Prologue stuff etc...). Please ignore for now. I'll get it straightened out.

Peace.
 
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Just ran the ring several times in your tune using the 6-speed close-ratio tranny, managed a 7:21.107 but time was red flagged cause I barely edged into the grass on the fast straight before the carousel.

Logged a legal 7:21.846
 
Just ran the ring several times in your tune using the 6-speed close-ratio tranny, managed a 7:21.107 but time was red flagged cause I barely edged into the grass on the fast straight before the carousel.

Logged a legal 7:21.846

Chevrolet has since run a newer ZR1 using a updated z-rated super slick sport tire. I may have to consider changing the tires in this tuning to sport medium's after further consideration. Maybe try the medium's and decide which set feels more "real". You should be able to get 1+ g's of good cornering grip for either tire to be realistic.
 
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I felt the sport softs were slippery, I did a lot of sliding. Will try the mediums and let you know.

edit: although, I am spoiled at this point with racing soft tires.
 
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