Do you think PD expected drifting to be as popular as it is?

[GTWelsh]

Because drifting seems to of definitely been an after thought.
No drift specific settings online at all.
No points gained by drifting online at all.
Only a handful of drift cars.
990+ non-drift cars available.
4WD --> RWD transition cannot be done.
Yet skyline is very popular in the drift world.
No "section" drifting at all online. (example - end of Fuji only)
AI cant drift - Limits tandem drifting to online yet online has no aspect of drifting included what so ever.
Makes sense.

 

[BigYoSpeck]

Because drifting seems to of definitely been an after thought.

Aye, I get the feeling they aren't fans of it to be honest and it's only because of the massive popularity they threw it in. There isn't even a special event for it which is crazy considering they made an effort for karting and Nascar.

Only a handful of drift cars.

Pretty much any of the RWD cars can be setup as drift cars plus the important one's that make up the bulk of the RL drift world are in.

4WD --> RWD transition cannot be done.

I suspect they will see sense and rectify this in a patch.

Yet skyline is very popular in the drift world.

Most use the GT-T model which if they had just skipped one of the redundant GTR's we could have had.

AI cant drift - Limits tandem drifting to online yet online has no aspect of drifting included what so ever.

To be honest given the AI's other deficiencies I can't see this being achievable unless they 'cheat' the physics. The AI can barely avoid your car most of the time and doesn't have an adaptive driving style to balance something like drifts. It would either have to cheat the physics so it looks like it's drifting or be little more than a crash-able ghost mode. It would probably have worked best if they had made one of the Special events a challenge where the AI does a preset drift and you have to tandem with it where by you fail if there is any contact, that would negate having to actually have any drift capable AI as it could effectively just be a replay with you on the track with it.

 

[Gonales]

Because drifting seems to of definitely been an after thought.
No drift specific settings online at all.
No points gained by drifting online at all.
Only a handful of drift cars.
990+ non-drift cars available.
4WD --> RWD transition cannot be done.
Yet skyline is very popular in the drift world.
No "section" drifting at all online. (example - end of Fuji only)
AI cant drift - Limits tandem drifting to online yet online has no aspect of drifting included what so ever.
Makes sense.

I am amazed by the fact that Gran Turismo was created mostly or completely in Japan, and there is such a lack of drifting options in the game.

I would love the full RWD conversion to be possible. (Although, in contests, people might be able to cheat, there has to be a way to check VCD and LSD setups.)

And you cant get section drifting online, cause the tracks cant be fully redesigned to make them link start to finish... Otherwise you would reset every time you hit the finish of the section...

 

[Duman079]

I think they did a pretty good job, You shouldn't forget that it is the real driving simulator not the real drifting simulator . Of course I agree that ther should be more options in the Drift section, but it is the best I have played yet. I also got about 90 RWD cars with drift setup and I use only.... 10 ? Hope the next GT will get more drifting action. I also agree about the Skyline. I think they should have made a stock FR Skyline at the dealer, that would be awsome.

 

[GTWelsh]

I didn't forget, racing is driving, drifting is driving, surely

Fact is there isn't a drift section ... At all !
Only in SP
And thats fun for about, 10 mins ?
I can drift online all night!

And if I love drifting on GT5 this much when there isn't a drift mode whatsoever.
It would surely ROCK if they introduced drift specific options.

 

[Wolf-M]

Aye, I get the feeling they aren't fans of it to be honest and it's only because of the massive popularity they threw it in. There isn't even a special event for it which is crazy considering they made an effort for karting and Nascar.

I suspect that's because not many people can drift under the so-called "realistic" physics GT5 has (myself being one of them).

 

[the Interceptor]

Well, if you look at it, PD didn't really use the potential of any of the specific parts in the game: Nascar, WRC, Top Gear, Super GT, drifting - you name it. It's all there, but you can't help the feeling they could have made so much more of it.

And given they are Japanese-centered, I wonder why there's no Touge racing.

 

[Kishkuman]

im not sure it was an afterthought but there is plenty of room to expand the drifting in this game. id love to see xp and cash being earned in a spec for drift events and some proper D1GP style championships

 

[GTWelsh]

In SP Drifting is OK.
Name one aspect of MP where they looked at drifting ?

 

[DGambino1]

I don't think PD gave any kind of "appreciation" to drifting... If they did - then they would have included some tracks and races that were drifting orientated (seasonals don't count)...

Forza 3 had Fujimi Kaido mountain "tracks" which are amazing and definitely geared towards the drifting community... Hopefully PD will add a mountain track like Fujimi Kaido in a future update...

 

[DrifTa-AJV]

I think the only appreciation PD has for drifting is the cars themselves and not the actual sport witch is an absolute shame because there is so much potential for fun with it.
I have to agree with the Nascar comment where drifting is well known world wide as is nascar but atleast drifting is done in most countries i dont see race cars on oval tracks here in australia and pretty sure you dont in the uk.
If your not American who is actually going to sit there and watch a car go round in circles all day long.

 

[cameron2123]

If a patch added in Multiplayer full lap/sector drift modes... where you could compete against others in the server... I would play gt5 so much more.

 

[Kishkuman]

If a patch added in Multiplayer full lap/sector drift modes... where you could compete against others in the server... I would play gt5 so much more.

Defiantly this.... But don't you find online drifting quite different to sp? I'm not sure if it's me or just that the tyres ware on online

 

[Hayden]

I think the only appreciation PD has for drifting is the cars themselves and not the actual sport witch is an absolute shame because there is so much potential for fun with it.
I have to agree with the Nascar comment where drifting is well known world wide as is nascar but atleast drifting is done in most countries i dont see race cars on oval tracks here in australia and pretty sure you dont in the uk.
If your not American who is actually going to sit there and watch a car go round in circles all day long.

Sprint cars? Speedway? Facepalm!

Seriously though, Drifting is the one thing that got me through the XP grinding. Doing Indy to get money to buy drift cars gave meaning to the whole idea...

I wish their was some kind of online team tandeming. The usual point tally but with added multiplyers the closer the tandems....

 

[Nismo34]

Seriously though, Drifting is the one thing that got me through the XP grinding. Doing Indy to get money to buy drift cars gave meaning to the whole idea...

Glad I'm not the only one.

 

[Jesus]

I think they did a pretty good job, You shouldn't forget that it is the real driving simulator not the real drifting simulator . Of course I agree that ther should be more options in the Drift section, but it is the best I have played yet. I also got about 90 RWD cars with drift setup and I use only.... 10 ? Hope the next GT will get more drifting action. I also agree about the Skyline. I think they should have made a stock FR Skyline at the dealer, that would be awsome.

There is a stock RWD skyline at the dealership and also older RWD skylines in the UCD

 

[BigYoSpeck]

I suspect that's because not many people can drift under the so-called "realistic" physics GT5 has (myself being one of them).

All the more reason to have included a licensing section and special event to ease people into it.

 

[jimy281090]

There is a stock RWD skyline at the dealership and also older RWD skylines in the UCD

All 4 of them? You have the Blitz '07 in the dealership which is by far stock. Then if you're lucky enough you might occassionaly catch the GTS-T or the GTS in used car dealership which isn't so easy then you MIGHT find the Blitz '04 if you're really lucky so you cant really count that!

 

[Hayden]

There is a stock RWD skyline at the dealership and also older RWD skylines in the UCD

All 4 of them? You have the Blitz '07 in the dealership which is by far stock. Then if you're lucky enough you might occassionaly catch the GTS-T or the GTS in used car dealership which isn't so easy then you MIGHT find the Blitz '04 if you're really lucky so you cant really count that!

I think he means the one that is also available as an infinity G35, which is a skyline and is available in the NCD

It is called the 370 GT skyline and i drift one, with great success

 

[Nismo34]

Hahaha I also drift a 370GT and it is a very good drift car.

 

[jimy281090]

Yeah but it's not a GTR lol i think that is whatt Duman is getting at

 

[Hayden]

Yea, but the only RWD GTR is the R31 (as far as i know)
Their is RWD models of R32, R33 & R34 but they aren't part of GT5 for some reason

 

[Duman079]

There is a stock RWD skyline at the dealership and also older RWD skylines in the UCD

I mean the R34 GT-R. I got both RWD R32 Skyline and I don't like the Skyline Coupe that much.

 

[Knight Spirit]

Yea, but the only RWD GTR is the R31 (as far as i know)
Their is RWD models of R32, R33 & R34 but they aren't part of GT5 for some reason

There is a standard R32 GTS in gt5

 

[jimy281090]

yeah but it doesn't appear too often. there is also the gts-t but that is hard to get a hold of aswell.. they should have brought over the R33 GT-S.. i'd to have one of them in GT5 as a mate had one, absolutely phenomal fun without having to dismantle stuff off it lol..

 

[Olegonic]

Only ONE thing WE can do is just keep on hoping that Kaz if not see our posts but might hear from somebody about huge drift community HE would probably charge his team to bring drift events into the game, I will drift days and nights. I played RaceDriver Grid before and was very dissappointed when found NO drift discipline in GT5. It gave us so MANY fan in GRID to drift in tandem online and we had a chance to win or loose, plus, we got exp. points for winning

 

[ZSPaulus]

I think the drifting online is almost exactly like it schould be.

The larger part of the drifting community doesnt want to drift for points online; they want to tandem with two or more and hang out as teams...

What i would want online as a drifter would be; no "wrong way" icon, or the option to remove it. (many sections are in reverse options of a course), perhaps some markers for very common sections, better replay functionality; control over timeline, more views that take two cars in shot if possible.

 

[jimy281090]

My perfect ideas for online drifting would be:

A starting location marker. like in SKATE3 where you are in free roam mode.. press up on the buttons and it sets that location as a marker. it means you can tackle corners over and over! making you invisible and in pause when you do this to avoid colisions!

The wrong way marker to be removed like suggested in the previous post!

Online game mode seperation(1 section for drift, 1 section for racing, 1 section for free run hot lapping)

I would most definately NOT like to see points added online as the points system is a load of rubbish IMO. you drive a tank car which is the width of the track and bang.. FULL POINTS! its a joke..

And ofcourse i'd happily like to see official scoreboards for overall lap times etc!.. Forza Motorsport 3 has this absolutely bang on!.. you have each of the tracks best laptime on or offline.. you also have a combined overall lap time.. it takes all you're best lap and sums it up into 1 lap time.. also a very good idea!! i know it's not drifting but sometimes you must get fed up of it? lol

 

[alucardunit1]

You have to also take in to fact that the game is about 85-90% done and there are loads of updates incoming. We just need to speak up on PD's site and make it known what we want.

 

[ZSPaulus]

You have to also take in to fact that the game is about 85-90% done and there are loads of updates incoming. We just need to speak up on PD's site and make it known what we want.

I dont mean to be a jerk; but that's spoken like someone who didnt drift in FM3 and was active in the community. (also not sayin you were..) The drifting community there was larger then the racing and we didnt get nothin.

in short; i wouldnt get my hopes up to any level at all...