Do you use Cruise Control?

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What's your cruise control usage?

  • Whenever I can

    Votes: 13 20.6%
  • Only on highways

    Votes: 32 50.8%
  • I don't need it

    Votes: 9 14.3%
  • I don't have it in my vehicle

    Votes: 9 14.3%

  • Total voters
    63
Sometimes, especially in areas that have ridiculously low speed limits with a high percentage of police. On the highway it doesn't make a ton of sense for me because it's horrendous at figuring out the shift points when trying to go through a mountain pass and it rides the brakes on the way down. On the lone back roads though in Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, and Nevada though, it's nice to set the cruise at 80mph and just watch for coyotes.
 
I only use it on highways myself when I'm traveling for a long distance unless traffic gets really heavy. For short journeys, I don't bother.
 
I chose; "I don't have it in my vehicle". It was one of the very few option for my car when I bought it I could choose but I didn't because "I don't need it".
It sounds pompous but I really can do without Cruise Control. If my car had Cruise Control, I wouldn't even use it, I think.
BTW, there is too much traffic and most the roads are in poor condition. Which means that I have to use my brake pedal (:lol:) all the time, switching off the Cruise Control.

Cruise control is, IMHO, a dangerous thing to use. When you use it, you automatically start to relax (too much), I think, and that is the last thing you should do, relaxing when driving a car, nowadays.

Plus, truck drivers use cruise control all the time and they cause a serious accident when there is a traffic jam because they are too relaxed using Cruise Control.
 
None of the options fit my case, so I didn't vote in the poll. I use cruise in two instances:
1) long interstate drives - helps with mileage
2) late at night or if I am tired - I'll peg to 5mph over speed limit and keep to the right
 
I'm in the habit of using it again after a long time driving a car without.

More to rest my foot/achilles than anything else.
 
Wow people really use it. I'm surprised, I never use it at all
Neither does anyone in my town. :lol:

Cruise control is, IMHO, a dangerous thing to use. When you use it, you automatically start to relax (too much), I think, and that is the last thing you should do, relaxing when driving a car, nowadays.
I use it because my heels start to hurt if I am using the pedals constantly. Also prevents speeding since I am bad at gently pressing the gas pedal more than I should trying to maintain speed, which almost always makes me speed. My Kia was bead since it had a huge dead spot at the top of the pedal travel and maintaining speed was a nightmare.
 
I use it because my heels start to hurt if I am using the pedals constantly. Also prevents speeding since I am bad at gently pressing the gas pedal more than I should trying to maintain speed, which almost always makes me speed. My Kia was bead since it had a huge dead spot at the top of the pedal travel and maintaining speed was a nightmare.
These are good reasons to use cruise control.

I'm very disciplined when it comes to speeding. So I don't need cruise control for that particular reason. My car's gas pedal is very, very sensitive. The slightest touch and the RPM goes up. And ..... the distances that I have to drive to get were I want is not even close to the distances you can travel in the States.
 
Nope and I took it out. Truck had it and I removed all of the parts.
 
Cruise control is, IMHO, a dangerous thing to use. When you use it, you automatically start to relax (too much), I think, and that is the last thing you should do, relaxing when driving a car, nowadays.
For me, all cruise control does is help make it a little easier to focus on more important things than avoiding speeding. Plus, when I use cruise control at night around here, I tend to cover the brake pedal in case of deer or other wildlife. So it can actually be a bit safer.

The most dangerous thing about cruise control is using it when the road is wet or slick with snow/ice, since it doesn't know any better and can spin up the drivewheels.

My car's gas pedal is very, very sensitive. The slightest touch and the RPM goes up.
My E30's throttle pedal was rather firm and linear, making maintaining a speed without cruise control (which was broken) very easy. If the Legacy's pedal was more like that, I might only use cruise control in the Forester.
 
I've never tried it. I don't trust it. I don't know... maybe I just don't know how to use it, or simply prefer having full control of my car.
 
since it doesn't know any better and can spin up the drivewheels

Well that's more an issue with aquaplaning rather than the cruise control actually causing that. In fact if there was wheelspin the cruise control would cut power in order to maintain the set speed.
 
I use it religiously, even in the city if I know I won't have to touch the brake for more then 20 seconds, it's that easy to set up i don't see why I wouldn't it also reduces fatigue especially if you drive alot which I did when I was doing uber.

If my cruise control wasn't a very easy to use system done off my wheel though I would probably use it half as much.
 
Well that's more an issue with aquaplaning rather than the cruise control actually causing that. In fact if there was wheelspin the cruise control would cut power in order to maintain the set speed.
Aquaplaning is why wet roads are an issue for cruise control, yes. But cruise control doesn't lift anywhere near as promptly as a human, at least in my experience from neglecting to heed my own advice. The main highway from our village has poor drainage with "ruts" from heavy trucks, and the Forester in particular doesn't mind adding an extra 20mph on the speedo over the standing water.

I've just always remembered that bit of advice from my best friend's step dad, who once had a scary learning experience in a turbo Mk.3 Supra.
 
Aquaplaning is why wet roads are an issue for cruise control, yes. But cruise control doesn't lift anywhere near as promptly as a human, at least in my experience from neglecting to heed my own advice. The main highway from our village has poor drainage with "ruts" from heavy trucks, and the Forester in particular doesn't mind adding an extra 20mph on the speedo over the standing water.

I've just always remembered that bit of advice from my best friend's step dad, who once had a scary learning experience in a turbo Mk.3 Supra.

My dad's car has laser cruise control, which will suspend operation if it detects that the road surface is wet. I thought that was a pretty good safety feature, but could understand why cars with conventional cruise control wouldn't do that.
 
I'm coming to the end of a 4500 km road trip in a MB W211 with a conventional automatic transmission and I think the trip would have taken a bigger toll on me (and my wallet) had it not been for the excellent cruise control. It's brilliant for driving on open roads with a lot og elevation changes, downshifting automatically to increase engine braking on downhill sections.

I've previously not been a fan of neither automatics nor cruise control but on this trip I've come to appreciate it massively. I think a lot of "purists" would realize the same if they were in the same situation. There's a time and place for everything I guess.

With that being said, I'm looking forward to getting back to driving a manual transmission car on winding B-roads when I get home.
 
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When I bought my van with cruise control I argued with the salesman, he was using the cruise control as a selling point and I was adamant that I didn't need it or wouldn't use it. I was wrong. I use it much more than I thought and it usually does help to prevent me accidentally speeding and it saves me fuel.

I don't see cruise control as unsafe at all. It does take a little while to get the hang of using it correctly, but after a short time it's easy.
 
Cruise control is, IMHO, a dangerous thing to use. When you use it, you automatically start to relax (too much), I think, and that is the last thing you should do, relaxing when driving a car, nowadays.
I think that's bollocks, frankly. I find it's actually easier to be a safe drive when using cruise control or a limiter because you don't have to focus on maintaining a safe speed and instead have more attention to spare for potential hazards and traffic. Yours is the same sort of argument I've heard levied against automatic transmissions: if you as a driver have less to do, you'll be less safe. However, that's obviously not the case. If someone is an inattentive or bad driver then the features of their car aren't going to change that.
 
I think that's bollocks, frankly. I find it's actually easier to be a safe drive when using cruise control or a limiter because you don't have to focus on maintaining a safe speed and instead have more attention to spare for potential hazards and traffic. Yours is the same sort of argument I've heard levied against automatic transmissions: if you as a driver have less to do, you'll be less safe. However, that's obviously not the case. If someone is an inattentive or bad driver then the features of their car aren't going to change that.
I wrote a nice reply but removed it 15 minutes ago. Just now, a few minutes ago, I found this (quoted the text, see below) on the internet because I know that I'm right and it is not bollocks. ;) :cheers:

I wrote about reaction times, in the post I removed, in case of an emergency to avoid an accident. Your foot is not as close to the brake pedal when you use Cruise Control. People automatically start to relax when you use Cruise control, it's fact. Two very dangerous situation when driving a car.

You have your opinion and I have mine. And I'm pretty sure that I'm right.

You're correct that certain features of their car doesn't isn't going to change a bad driver. But certain features of a car does change the way a person drives a car, good driver or bad driver, it doesn't matter.

BTW, in the deleted post, I said; "tell that to the victims of accidents truck driver caused when using Cruise Control". I also said that here in Belgium, politicians talked about truck drivers not being allowed to use the Cruise Control anymore.

Drivers who use cruise control and speed-limiting devices know they can provide real benefits, particularly driver comfort and compliance with speed limits.

But a new study (PDF) suggests a downside to these aids. Drivers have less control overtaking other vehicles and managing the direction of their own vehicles, and have longer reaction times.

The study, which measured the effects of cruise control and speed-limiting devices on driver vigilance and behaviour, was released by the French based VINCI Autoroutes Foundation for Responsible Driving.

“The less work the driver has to do, the less alert he will be behind the wheel,” said Bernadette Moreau, General Delegate of the Foundation, which researches hazardous driving behaviours. “It is widely known that these tools are very effective to maintain safe speeds, but call for user savviness and awareness” to be safe.

Driver attentiveness is a hot-button issue worldwide, with various governments pondering legislation that would supplement bans on texting while driving with strict limits, or outright bans, on using internet-enabled features while their vehicle is in motion.

The study indicated that by automating control of the vehicle, there is a decline in drivers’ attention and control, which reduces their ability to respond to hazards.

For example, when cruise control and speed limiters were used, drivers showed reduced ability to merge into traffic due to greater difficulty in modulating vehicle speed. The aids also caused drivers to remain in the overtaking lane for longer periods of time and to move back into the slow lane less often. Drivers straightened their vehicles less often when using these devices, and had substantially slower reaction times, especially in emergencies.

These behaviours grew more pronounced with the duration of travel, especially when using cruise control. Generally, the reduction of alertness and control was greater when using cruise control than with speed limiters, the researchers said.

The research was conducted by the Centre d'Investigations Neurocognitives et Neurophysiologiques, a laboratory operated under auspices of the University of Strasbourg and the state-owned Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique.

Research was conducted in three separate sessions in 2012. Ninety men and women, equally represented, in ages ranging from 18 to 60 and older, participated using a driving simulator. They were required to alter speed in response to four different scenarios under different driving conditions: using the speed limiters; using non-adaptive cruise control; and controlling the vehicle without the use of driving aids.

The study also found that episodes of drowsiness occurred more frequently when cruise control was utilised (and to a lesser extent, with speed limiters) than when drivers controlled vehicle speed.

Moreau said that to her knowledge, the study was the first of its kind. An earlier study by the foundation on drowsiness behind the wheel indicated that the average French driver has an hour less sleep each night than 15 years ago, and in the days leading up to vacations, many have even less sleep than usual. Given cruise control and speed limiters are often used for longer trips, the impacts of sleep deprivation found in the earlier study, combined with the findings of the newly released one, suggest caution when using these aids before extensive travel.

The foundation recommends that driving aids be switched off in certain situations, such as when traffic is dense or when approaching speed-reduction areas like construction zones or toll stations. And during long-distance trips, when the tools are often in extended use, drivers should take rest breaks to recover attentiveness.

“These are tools drivers can use but they need to use them at the right time,” Moreau said. “These tools are meant to assist, not replace, drivers.”
 

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I wrote a nice reply but removed it 15 minutes ago. Just now, a few minutes ago, I found this (quoted the text, see below) on the internet because I know that I'm right and it is not bollocks. ;) :cheers:

I wrote about reaction times, in the post I removed, in case of an emergency to avoid an accident. Your foot is not as close to the brake pedal when you use Cruise Control. People automatically start to relax when you use Cruise control, it's fact. Two very dangerous situation when driving a car.

You have your opinion and I have mine. And I'm pretty sure that I'm right.

You're correct that certain features of their car doesn't isn't going to change a bad driver. But certain features of a car does change the way a person drives a car, good driver or bad driver, it doesn't matter.

BTW, in the deleted post, I said; "tell that to the victims of accidents truck driver caused when using Cruise Control". I also said that here in Belgium, politicians talked about truck drivers not being allowed to use the Cruise Control anymore.
Interesting stuff, and thanks for linking to a source. I still maintain that whether cruise control is detrimental to a driver's concentration is down to the driver, but it sounds like it does have an effect. However, one line of that article struck me as a bit odd:
BBC
For example, when cruise control and speed limiters were used, drivers showed reduced ability to merge into traffic
Who exactly is using cruise control while trying to merge into traffic, and why? To me that serves as an example of poor driving and misuse of the vehicle's driving aids. That's not something that should be done in most circumstances, and it seems odd that that would be included in the study, unless it was something drivers commonly did. If that was the case then it sounds to me like cruise control is allowing a great number of people to be poorer, less attentive drivers, but if that isn't common practise then I would question the methdology of the study. I also don't see any evidence that the study has been peer-reviewed, and unfortunately a quick search of the SAE database to see if there were any comparable studies didn't yield anything. I still maintain that the use of cruise control isn't the problem, rather it's a symptom of drivers wanting to pay less attention or be less involved and are using cruise control to achieve this goal. Cruise control allows a driver to pay less attention to vehicle speed, but doesn't inherently mean a driver is less attentive. That's still a decision made by the driver. If a driver uses cruise control while merging in heavy traffic, then I would be surprised if there aren't other aspects of their driving which are of questionable safety.

The BBC article ends with this:
BBC
The foundation recommends that driving aids be switched off in certain situations, such as when traffic is dense or when approaching speed-reduction areas like construction zones or toll stations. And during long-distance trips, when the tools are often in extended use, drivers should take rest breaks to recover attentiveness.
No 🤬, sherlock. I think that if that sort of statement is news to anyone then they ought to seriously rethink the way they drive.

Basically, I stand by my original statement: bad drivers are bad drivers and good drivers are good drivers. The vehicle they're operating has far less impact on safety than their own driving technique.


By the way, if you can dig up the actual study I'll definitely have a read of it, however all I could find was a press release which doesn't appear to offer any real nuance, just some blanket statements.
 
I wrote about reaction times, in the post I removed, in case of an emergency to avoid an accident. Your foot is not as close to the brake pedal when you use Cruise Control. People automatically start to relax when you use Cruise control, it's fact. Two very dangerous situation when driving a car.
Sounds to me like you're describing the dangers of being a bad driver rather than the dangers of using cruise control.
 
Basically, I stand by my original statement: bad drivers are bad drivers and good drivers are good drivers. The vehicle they're operating has far less impact on safety than their own driving technique.


By the way, if you can dig up the actual study I'll definitely have a read of it, however all I could find was a press release which doesn't appear to offer any real nuance, just some blanket statements.
I agree. Good drivers are good drivers and vice versa. But that doesn't mean that good drivers use Cruise Control like it should and still make mistakes, be more relaxed and become a hazard on the road.
You on the other hand, doesn't seem to be a dangerous driver or a hazard at all. But that doesn't mean that everybody is as good of a driver as you. Correct?

Little anecdote about myself. When I started driving a car legally at the age of 18, I always thought that I was a good driver. But in 2000 when I started with car control, defensive and offensive, took lessons on how to race on a race track, I found out that I wasn't a good driver at all. I made a lot of mistakes and learned how to correct these mistakes.
Most people think they are good drivers, but they really aren't.

A few years ago, I had a job interview at the Ford testing ground in Lommel. To make a long story short, I didn't get the job because when I was doing my physical checkup in Genk, I said to one of the doctors that I have a hernia. Clearly, if I had kept my mouth shut but - honesty is one of my problems - I would have become a test driver. How do I know that because a very good friend of mine has been a test driver in Lommel for many years and his boss asked my friend what happened to me. His boss also told my friend that he really wanted me as a test driver, I was that good. Sorry for bragging but it's the truth. This was actually funny but my friend's boss gave my friend the opportunity to test drive a Ford GT, the same day when I took the driving test with his boss, because this friend of mine told me of this job interview.
The same thing happened to me when Dirk Schoysman tested me at the Nordschleife and on the road around the Nordschleife. I'm not going to say what he said to me because I bragged enough about myself. :P

I added a PDF file. I believe it's the original study.



Sounds to me like you're describing the dangers of being a bad driver rather than the dangers of using cruise control.
You can't judge this. :D
You are from Norway and you all are very good drivers to begin with. :D It's in your blood. Scandinavian drivers are all good drivers by default. :D Am I not right?
And to get your driving license, the tests you have to take is very good and professional compared to the test we have to take in Belgium. Over here, it's a joke, these test.

What I said about the reaction time is correct though, I think.
I don't know for sure because I don't have Cruise control but isn't it so that when driving with Cruise Control on, you automatically relax your right leg and foot? Isn't it also true that you put your right foot further from the brake pedal compared to when you're having your food on the throttle?
If so, this will slow down your reaction time significantly and increase your braking distance a lot.

One of the things I learned over the years, practicing car control is your sitting position and where you put your feet and how to use the pedals correctly. This isn't possible with Cruise Control.

BTW, you all can use Cruise Control whenever you want. As long as nothing happens, it's not a problem but I know for a fact that accidents happens when people use Cruise Control and Cruise Control is the cause of these accident, whether you are a good driver or a bad driver. Most of these accidents happen when there is a traffic jam.
 
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Your foot is not as close to the brake pedal when you use Cruise Control. People automatically start to relax when you use Cruise control, it's fact. Two very dangerous situation when driving a car.
As I said above, sometimes I actually cover the brake pedal when using cruise control.

Your source is interesting, and I have no doubt about the negative implications for some drivers. Too many people don't take the responsibility of driving seriously enough. But in the hands of a responsible driver, it's a useful tool that allows you to save the mental effort of avoiding speeding and spend it on extra attentiveness. Or maybe I'm one in a million for using it that way.
 
Scandinavian drivers are all good drivers by default. :D Am I not right?
That's definitely not the case. If there's an advantage it is that we tend to drive a lot on snow and ice, but that's the case in many parts of the world and not really relevant in this scenario.
What I said about the reaction time is correct though, I think.
I don't know for sure because I don't have Cruise control but isn't it so that when driving with Cruise Control on, you automatically relax your right leg and foot? Isn't it also true that you put your right foot further from the brake pedal compared to when you're having your food on the throttle?
If so, this will slow down your reaction time significantly and increase your braking distance a lot.

One of the things I learned over the years, practicing car control is your sitting position and where you put your feet and how to use the pedals correctly. This isn't possible with Cruise Control.
That's reckless use of cruise control, not a feature of cruise control.
 
That's definitely not the case. If there's an advantage it is that we tend to drive a lot on snow and ice, but that's the case in many parts of the world and not really relevant in this scenario.
Oh, thanks for clearing that up. I always thought that Scandivians are better drivers. Isn't it so that you have to learn car control when you want to get your driving license?
As I said above, sometimes I actually cover the brake pedal when using cruise control.

Your source is interesting, and I have no doubt about the negative implications for some drivers. Too many people don't take the responsibility of driving seriously enough. But in the hands of a responsible driver, it's a useful tool that allows you to save the mental effort of avoiding speeding and spend it on extra attentiveness. Or maybe I'm one in a million for using it that way.
I remember that. But you also said that you use Cruise Control because your heels hurt when driving long distances. So, covering the brake pedal with your foot, you still have to put your heel on the floor of the car. Doesn't that give you problems with your heel? Covering your brake pedal, isn't that equally tiresome for your leg and foot as keeping your foot on the throttle?
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I don't get it. If you use Cruise Control, you can't put your foot on the throttle/brake pedal because it will turn off Cruise Control. Right? Or not?

If so, you can't hold your foot nowhere near the pedals. Right? So, as I see it, you bend your right leg to keep your foot away from the throttle, which means that in an emergency, it takes a fraction longer to get your foot on the brake pedal, which means a longer distance to stop the car.


Oh well, it's all theoretically in my case. You guys have real life practice.

*kikie runs off to buy a new car with Cruise control because still needs to learn a lot about driving a car propely*
 
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That's definitely not the case. If there's an advantage it is that we tend to drive a lot on snow and ice, but that's the case in many parts of the world and not really relevant in this scenario.

All Scandinavian drivers are rally drivers (my avatar confirms this!)! :D

Cruise control? Love the concept, although with beltway traffic adaptive cruise would've been good. When I use it I always have to go on and off because people pull out or don't manage to hold their speed in hilly sections.. On more rural roads/highways I miss it in my daily from time to time..

Also, the added reaction time is a moot point because the situations you turn on cruise control and rest your feet away from the pedals (highways, light traffic, not 25 ms crosswinds or a blizzard) are not high alert situations.. I can not recall a single occasion having my foot on the gas opposed to somewhere on the floor with cruise on would have made real world difference.
 
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