Does Anyone Watch Wrestling? (WWE, AEW, TNA, NWA, etc)

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So at the moment, the Royal Rumble has been pinned down to 3 possible winner :indiff:

Roman Reigns (Chances being Moderate)
Brock Lesnar (Chances being Low)
Triple H (as a surprise entrant) (Chances being High)

I honestly don't want either 3 to win. Triple H and Brock Lesnar are part time and part time champions have been horrible (especially Brock Lesnar's WWE Title Reign) and I really don't want to see Roman Reigns to retain, he is just no appealing to me at all.

Also sad news is that Mark Henry is removed form what could've been his last Rumble; http://whatculture.com/wwe/mark-henry-removed-from-wwe-royal-rumble-2016.php
 
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SecretAgentZero
Shocked that Roman gets the #1 spot in the Rumble. :rolleyes:
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So I'm guessing the streak of disappointing Royal Rumbles continues?

Also, it turns out that all the titles are on the line AGAIN!!! Can we just drop Night of Champions, it is becoming a very redundant PPV theme with only 5 titles.
 
There could easily be 7-8 titles. WWE World Heavyweight Championship, United States Championship, Intercontinental Championship, European or Cruiserweight Championship, World Tag Team Championship, Divas Championship and Women's Championship. The only way Night of Champions would relevant under current format is if they threw in the NXT championships as well. Then it'd mean something.
 
So, I used to be a fan of wrestling when I was a kid, but after Wrestlemania 29 when they dropped yet another chance to capitalize on CM Punk's popularity (yes, I'm a CM Punk fan), I sort of stopped watching. The beginning of the end for me was when The Rock won the title, despite only wrestling a match or two prior to that. And with the end of my all-time favourite wrestler (Undertaker) being near, I had no reason to watch it anymore.

But today there was nothing to do, and I saw that Raw was on, so I decided to check in on what's been happening and;
It was depressing. The PG Era has really taken it's toll on the WWE. The fights were uninteresting, the wrestlers on the microphone were boring and generic, the storylines were predictable and reused and what is it with this obsession with stables? Seriously, A New Day, The Authority, League of Nations, and The Wyatt Family, etc. I just couldn't get into it like I use to. And FYI, putting mini titantron-esque screens everywhere doesn't make it better (looking at you ring apron screens).


Then afterwards while looking for more on what happened while I stopped watching, I heard that Sting returned and I could only think that hopefully they let him face The Undertaker (albeit 5-7 years later than we expected) and nope. Instead he faced the egotistical maniac that is Paul Levesque. Opportunity missed.

It seems ever since Wrestlemania 29, the WWE has been on a forever downhill slide. And it also doesn't look like it'll get me back as a viewer any time soon.

/rant
 
NW48
So, I used to be a fan of wrestling when I was a kid, but after Wrestlemania 29 when they dropped yet another chance to capitalize on CM Punk's popularity (yes, I'm a CM Punk fan), I sort of stopped watching. The beginning of the end for me was when The Rock won the title, despite only wrestling a match or two prior to that. And with the end of my all-time favourite wrestler (Undertaker) being near, I had no reason to watch it anymore.

But today there was nothing to do, and I saw that Raw was on, so I decided to check in on what's been happening and;
It was depressing. The PG Era has really taken it's toll on the WWE. The fights were uninteresting, the wrestlers on the microphone were boring and generic, the storylines were predictable and reused and what is it with this obsession with stables? Seriously, A New Day, The Authority, League of Nations, and The Wyatt Family, etc. I just couldn't get into it like I use to. And FYI, putting mini titantron-esque screens everywhere doesn't make it better (looking at you ring apron screens).


Then afterwards while looking for more on what happened while I stopped watching, I heard that Sting returned and I could only think that hopefully they let him face The Undertaker (albeit 5-7 years later than we expected) and nope. Instead he faced the egotistical maniac that is Paul Levesque. Opportunity missed.

It seems ever since Wrestlemania 29, the WWE has been on a forever downhill slide. And it also doesn't look like it'll get me back as a viewer any time soon.

/rant
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Your thoughts are interesting to read through though a little uninformed.

I doubt this is the PG era anymore. Sure it is still PG but it is a lot different then back when it started story-line and character wise. More like the Reality Era, though yeah, your argument still stands and the ratings prove that.

Be in mind, pretty much everyone who is actually interesting is injured due to WWEs obsession with House Shows or botch moves. (Though my 3 favourites still stand (Ambrose, Owens and Ziggler :D).

I got to agree with that. I don't get why WWE can't afford unique titan-tron sets and ring ropes for PPV Events anymore but they can afford extra trons around the arena :confused:

Also from what I heard, Sting doesn't actually want to fight Undertaker, so that is why they never booked Sting with the Deadman.

It's funny, I find my WWE Universe mode to be more entertaining, interesting and unpredictable than the real WWE.

I honestly do think there have been some good bits ever since Wrestlemania 29 plans started (Wrestlemania XXX and Wrestlemania 31 were pretty decent, not to mention at 2013 Payback, there were some good storys to be told)

and since you bring up Wrestlemania 29. I remember back before the 2012 TLC, I made a prediction on what'll happen on the road to Wrestlemania 29 and sadly I was wrong, especially since what I thought was better (sorry for bragging).
  • At TLC (2012), the World Heavyweight Championship match would go last instead of earlier on.
  • After the match Dolph Ziggler cashes in and wins the World Heavyweight Championship.
  • Ziggler continues his feud with Cena but Cena goes to the Royal Rumble while Ziggler defends his title against Sheamus and Big Show.
  • Ziggler and Cena win both their matches.
  • Meanwhile CM Punk defeats The Rock at the Royal Rumble.
  • John Cena uses his Wrestlemania match clause at the Elimination Chamber instead for the World Heavyweight Championship.
  • CM Punk continues his feud with The Rock and they are both in an Elimination Chamber match for the WWE Championship
  • Both CM Punk and John Cena win their matches, after the show they confront each other.
  • John Cena decides that there should only be 1 Champion, a Champions of Champions and challenges CM Punk to a title unification match at Wrestlemania, CM Punk accepts.
  • However Ziggler has a rematch clause and he'll use it on Cena at Wrestlemania
Now using what I predicted and what actually happen, this how I reckon WWE should've done with the Wrestlemania 29 match card:

Pre-Show: The Miz vs. Wade Barrett (IC Championship)
1st Match: Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler (World Heavyweight Championship) (Cena wins LOL)
2nd Match: Shield vs. Orton/Sheamus/Big Show
3rd Match: Kaitlyn vs. AJ Lee (Divas Championship)
4th Match: Team Hell No vs. Rhodes Scholars (Tag Team Championship)
5th Match: Antonio Cesaro vs. Kofi Kingston (U.S Championship)
6th Match: The Rock vs. Undertaker
7th Match: Triple H vs. Bahrock Lesnar
8th Match: CM Punk (WWE Champion) vs. winner of Cena vs. Ziggler (World Heavyweight Championship)

and have that new WWE belt design actually be the design of the WWE World Heavyweight Championship
 
RESHIRAM5
Your thoughts are interesting to read through though a little uninformed.

I doubt this is the PG era anymore. Sure it is still PG but it is a lot different then back when it started story-line and character wise. More like the Reality Era, though yeah, your argument still stands and the ratings prove that.

Be in mind, pretty much everyone who is actually interesting is injured due to WWEs obsession with House Shows or botch moves. (Though my 3 favourites still stand (Ambrose, Owens and Ziggler :D).

I got to agree with that. I don't get why WWE can't afford unique titan-tron sets and ring ropes for PPV Events anymore but they can afford extra trons around the arena :confused:

Also from what I heard, Sting doesn't actually want to fight Undertaker, so that is why they never booked Sting with the Deadman.
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Calling it the reality era, whilst true (as that has become the route of pretty much all things, Sport included) actually doesn't make it sound much better. Just from tonight's episode (especially The Highlight Reel promo where Jericho seemed much more subdued than earlier in the PG era) the promos are generic and uninteresting, so I decided to look onto YouTube and watch some footage of things I've missed, namely the Sting vs The Authority angle. That was easily some of the best promo work I've seen since Punk left, still not as good, but better than a lot of the stuff I've seen today.

I am aware of the injury crisis, as I found out about that through Fox Sports who never reported on WWE until a few weeks ago, which is why I went back to watch some of the action I've missed, as I said above.

I wouldn't know that as I haven't followed wrestling in years, nor have I followed the backstage politics during that time. But I must say I'm disappointed in Sting not wanting to fight the Undertaker, that was always a dream match of mine, right ahead of CM Punk vs Stone Cold Steve Austin.

RESHIRAM5
It's funny, I find my WWE Universe mode to be more entertaining, interesting and unpredictable than the real WWE.
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I remember playing the games and having a lot of fun with WWE Universe, but isn't/wasn't it always more interesting and unpredictable than the real WWE. ;) :P
 
NW48
Calling it the reality era, whilst true (as that has become the route of pretty much all things, Sport included) actually doesn't make it sound much better. Just from tonight's episode (especially The Highlight Reel promo where Jericho seemed much more subdued than earlier in the PG era) the promos are generic and uninteresting, so I decided to look onto YouTube and watch some footage of things I've missed, namely the Sting vs The Authority angle. That was easily some of the best promo work I've seen since Punk left, still not as good, but better than a lot of the stuff I've seen today.

I am aware of the injury crisis, as I found out about that through Fox Sports who never reported on WWE until a few weeks ago, which is why I went back to watch some of the action I've missed, as I said above.

I wouldn't know that as I haven't followed wrestling in years, nor have I followed the backstage politics during that time. But I must say I'm disappointed in Sting not wanting to fight the Undertaker, that was always a dream match of mine, right ahead of CM Punk vs Stone Cold Steve Austin.


I remember playing the games and having a lot of fun with WWE Universe, but isn't/wasn't it always more interesting and unpredictable than the real WWE. ;) :P
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I wasn't making the whole Reality era thing sound better. Honestly, it is way worst than the PG era IMO and yeah a lot of things when the wrestler weren't injured were pretty good and IMO some of the better working, however listening to the Mark Remark Youtube Serues makes most of it worth it :lol:.

I wouldn't say that is is better than the WWE was at its prime times (Ruthless Aggresion era and the Attitude era) but it is entertaining me more than what WWE is doing now (though I find it unintentionally funny seeing 29 people keeping kayfabe and say they are going to win the Rumble when it is obvious realistically that only 2 possible people could win and 1 of them might not even show up (Triple H)).
 
I think they need to start turning some of their jobbers (Sandow, Breeze, Neville, Axel, Dallas, etc.) into midcarders to main eventers while the top stars are out. Also if Trips is planning to sign more indie wrestlers, they need to reactivate few titles in order to satisfy the indie wrestlers.
 
FilipinoGTUser1
I think they need to start turning some of their jobbers (Sandow, Breeze, Neville, Axel, Dallas, etc.) into midcarders to main eventers while the top stars are out. Also if Trips is planning to sign more indie wrestlers, they need to reactivate few titles in order to satisfy the indie wrestlers.
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If I remember correctly, back in the FCW days. They had a Championship that could only be defended in Iron Man matches. I would like to see that title concept back.
 
I'm thinking of these titles that needed reactivation:

1. WWE Light Heavyweight Championship
2. Hardcore Championship (to give jobbers an opportunity to earn a title reign)
3. WWE World Tag Team Championship
4. WWE European Championship
5. WWE Cruiserweight Championship
6. World Heavyweight Championship (yes and that will revert the WWEWHC to WWE Championship)
7.Million Dollar Championship (make a Gold Rush tournament with the Million Dollar on the line.)
 
FilipinoGTUser1
I'm thinking of these titles that needed reactivation:

1. WWE Light Heavyweight Championship
2. Hardcore Championship (to give jobbers an opportunity to earn a title reign)
3. WWE World Tag Team Championship
4. WWE European Championship
5. WWE Cruiserweight Championship
6. World Heavyweight Championship (yes and that will revert the WWEWHC to WWE Championship)
7.Million Dollar Championship (make a Gold Rush tournament with the Million Dollar on the line.)
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It needs to be something different to the titles we already have. (Having more than 2 basic minor titles is kind of over the top). Cruiserweight and Hardcore Championships could work.

Having 2 World Titles was always better in my opinion, even when the brand split ended. Sure the WWE eventually treated the World Heavyweight Championship like they treated the ECW Championship (which was really stupid IMO), but it is considered a major title and seeing stars like Dolph Ziggler and Mark Henry win it was pretty memorizing. I don't think Daniel Bryan would be the popular star he is if the World Heavyweight Championship didn't exist. Not to mention most of the important plot points in the World Heavyweight Championship storylines happened on Smackdown so there was a reason to watch Smackdown.
 
I guess IMO their only option is to buy TNA and its assets in order to get access to more titles (X Division Championship, TNA World Heavyweight Championship (act its like the WCW Championship then rename it as World Championship) and TNA World Tag Team Championship.)
 
FilipinoGTUser1
I guess IMO their only option is to buy TNA and its assets in order to get access to more titles (X Division Championship, TNA World Heavyweight Championship (act its like the WCW Championship then rename it as World Championship) and TNA World Tag Team Championship.)
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I don't think WWE has any interest in TNA, and judging by how its going, I wouldn't either because of one person Ethan Carter III. It's Triple Hs reign of terror all over again.-

Also, there are far too many botches.
 
How will there be another Triple H Reign of Terror? They can just combine the EC3 and Derrick Bateman gimmick.
 
FilipinoGTUser1
What do you mean? EC3 taking out wrestlers who were given a title push but at the end getting buried?
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Not in that sense, to me a reign of terror is when a Heel gets way too much time in the main spotlight than they should like HHH back in 2002-2005. Overrated Heels if you would.
 
RESHIRAM5
Not in that sense, to me a reign of terror is when a Heel gets way too much time in the main spotlight than they should like HHH back in 2002-2005. Overrated Heels if you would.
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Well the perks of being part of the McMahon family is shown in that title reign. But yeah, only HBK, Benoit, Orton and Goldberg got a title reign during HHH's Reign of Terror. Besides he had Evolution on his back so adding that is the reason why we had a reign of terror.
 
Former WWE Superstar "Iron" Mike Sharpe passed away yesterday at the age of 64. Sharpe was one of the few competitors who was fast tracked to a match against then WWE Champion Bob Backlund at a mere four months into his WWE career. He is also known to use a loaded brace on his forearm while insulting wrestlers. His last match in WWE came in 1995, against the tag team of Billy and Bart Gunn, then known as the Smoking Gunns.

Following his retirement, he opened up a wrestling school in Brick, NJ, where he eventually trained former WWE superstars Charlie Haas and Simon Dean (also known as ECW's Nova) and WCW superstar Crowbar.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/iron-mike-sharpe-passes-away?sf19133425=1
 
Was surprised with the ending of Raw, didn't see that coming, like the sound of the Last Man Standing match between Ambrose and Owens for the IC title, should be first match up on the RR PPV this Sunday for me, just to get the show off to a good start...
 
MUSC4EVER
Was surprised with the ending of Raw, didn't see that coming, like the sound of the Last Man Standing match between Ambrose and Owens for the IC title, should be first match up on the RR PPV this Sunday for me, just to get the show off to a good start...
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Probably the only good looking match on the card too. Granted this opinion is biased.
 
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The class of 2016 for the WWE Hall of Fame has been leaked since yesterday apparently, and here is who is allegedly set to join Sting in the class this year:

1. The Fabulous Freebirds - Great Texas tag team that feuded with the Von Ericks in Texas for most of their careers. Did have a WWE stint.

2. Regis Philbin - Another addition to the oft-mocked celebrity wing. He did provide guest commentary for the WrestleMania VII match between Hulk Hogan and Sgt. Slaughter.

3. Jacqueline Moore - This Dallas-born women's wrestler is scraping the bottom of the barrel according to Whatculture.

4. JBL - Another Texas native. He currently provides color commentary on WWE television broadcasts.

5. Charles Wright - You may know him better as The Godfather, or Papa Shango, or Karma. If recent treatment of Scott Hall and Debra Miceli (who were inducted as Razor Ramon and Alundra Blaze respectively) is to be upheld, expect Mr. Wright to be inducted as The Godfather.


Daniel Bryan Update: Well the third opinion is in, and according to Whatculture.com, HE'S CLEARED! The question now becomes will WWE allow him to compete in the Rumble?
 
Wont be able to watch the PPV live as I'm in work the next morning so I cant stay up on Sunday night, I'll watch it Monday afternoon after work, its not really a big problem, just having to avoid Twitter until after I watch it as I follow so many wrestlers and wrestling news sources on there so there will be spoilers in their thousands!
 
I wish I could watch the Rumble. It's my favorite PPV by far. But alas, my subscription ran out.
 
Skybet betting odds for the entire confirmed card:

WWE Tag Team Championships:
The New Day (4/6) defends against The Usos (11/10)

WWE Divas Championship:
Charlotte (8/15) with Ric Flair defends against Becky Lynch (11/8)

WWE United States Championship:
Alberto Del Rio (2/7) defends against Kalisto (9/4)

Last Man Standing match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship:
Kevin Owens (13/8) defends against Dean Ambrose (4/9)

30 Man Royal Rumble Match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship:
[Note: Confirmed participants are listed first, regardless of odds, followed by those who have a shot by way of the Royal Rumble pre-show tag match. That's it.]

Roman Reigns: 12/5 [Note: Number one entrant]
The Big Show: 66/1
Curtis Axel: 150/1
Bray Wyatt: 5/1
Braun Strowman: 33/1
Luke Harper: 100/1
Erick Rowan: 125/1
Ryback: 40/1
Dolph Ziggler: 40/1
Chris Jericho: 50/1
Brock Lesnar: 3/1
Stardust: 125/1
Sheamus: 25/1
Kofi Kingston: 125/1
Big E: 33/1
Xavier Woods: No Odds Given
Darren Young: 150/1
Damien Sandow: 150/1
Bubba Ray Dudley: No Odds Given
D-Von Dudley: 150/1
Konnor: 150/1
Viktor: 150/1
Mark Henry: 125/1
Jack Swagger: No Odds Given
 
YES! YES! YES! for Daniel Bryan :D.

However, I hope WWE will know how to eliminate him right if he competes (I doubt he'll win), otherwise the fans will riot again.

I can watch the PPV on WWE Network since its School Holidays but I really don't know how to sign up for the free month trial as it just takes me to the 9.99 payment sign up :confused:
 

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