Does Anyone Watch Wrestling? (WWE, AEW, TNA, NWA, etc)

[Terronium-12]

This just sucks. I just watched the video with him turning on the Wyatts and the pop this dude gets—a genuine pop—is 🤬 insane. The only people that get pops that loud or louder, and consistently at that, are Austin and Rock.

I hope there's a lead-in of some kind but, man, this 🤬 sucks.

 

[Eva]

Was never a huge fan of Bryan, but there is no denying that he was one of the best that WWE has ever had, and millions knew that. Really bummed that he's retiring if this is a legitimate thing. Was looking forward to matches like Bryan/Styles or Bryan/Nakamura, which he also wanted to do as he said in a lead up to Wrestlemania 31.

 

[Com Fox]

I think what makes this hurt more for me was that both Daniel Bryan and CM Punk were pretty much fighting the WWE Political System and succeeding but now they are both retired from Pro Wrestling because of WWE doctors pretty much 🤬 them over. (Here was the source on Bryan being told that he would not be cleared to compete by WWE before his retirement making it seem like he had no choice: http://wrestlingnewspost.com/the-latest-on-daniel-bryans-wwe-status/).

So the WWE System won in the end . Man, I wish there wish there was a rival company to turn to.

 

[Eva]

I think what makes this hurt more for me was that both Daniel Bryan and CM Punk were pretty much fighting the WWE Political System and succeeding but now they are both retired from Pro Wrestling because of WWE doctors pretty much 🤬 them over. (Here was the source on Bryan being told that he would not be cleared to compete by WWE before his retirement making it seem like he had no choice: http://wrestlingnewspost.com/the-latest-on-daniel-bryans-wwe-status/).

So the WWE System won in the end . Man, I wish there wish there was a rival company to turn to.

WWE win again. And they do that by sheer monetary power. My question is why would they keep him on payroll and never use him. None of that makes sense.

 

[Com Fox]

WWE win again. And they do that by sheer monetary power. My question is why would they keep him on payroll and never use him. None of that makes sense.

Didn't they do that with Ezekiel Jackson when he was injured for nearly 2 years before finally releasing him?

Also Daniel Bryan is on Total Divas .

 

[Eva]

Didn't they do that with Ezekiel Jackson when he was injured for nearly 2 years before finally releasing him?

Also Daniel Bryan is on Total Divas .

With Ezekiel, they kept him for the fact that he could come back, but then he kept reinjuring himself. And maybe Bryan's staying with WWE in a different position, which is sad to think about.

 

[Com Fox]

With Ezekiel, they kept him for the fact that he could come back, but then he kept reinjuring himself. And maybe Bryan's staying with WWE in a different position, which is sad to think about.

If it is on the Creative (which is likely not) I would be happy with that as he does has good ideas on how to make WWE more interesting (including making Smackdown not a waste of time).

 

[Eva]

If it is on the Creative (which is likely not) I would be happy with that as he does has good ideas on how to make WWE more interesting (including making Smackdown not a waste of time).

His story, like the countless others, leads to the same point: Get Vince Out. Give Levesque the ability to do as he did with NXT and things will be so much better. Having Bryan on creative for anything would be a great addition.

 

[Com Fox]

His story, like the countless others, leads to the same point: Get Vince Out. Give Levesque the ability to do as he did with NXT and things will be so much better. Having Bryan on creative for anything would be a great addition.

Bryan had a cool idea for Smackdown that sort of makes up for the lack of a Brand Split where while the WWE WHC can go on both shows. The United States Championship and its storylines stay exclusively on Raw while the Intercontinental Championship and its storylines become Smackdown exclusive.

 

[Eva]

Bryan had a cool idea for Smackdown that sort of makes up for the lack of a Brand Split where while the WWE WHC can go on both shows. The United States Championship and its storylines stay exclusively on Raw while the Intercontinental Championship and its storylines become Smackdown exclusive.

I think we still need a couple more titles to make that work perfectly, but why that isn't already in effect is disturbing.

 

[Terronium-12]

WWE win again. And they do that by sheer monetary power. My question is why would they keep him on payroll and never use him. None of that makes sense.

The [conspiracy] theory is Reigns. Reigns is the reason he hasn't been cleared to compete again. It would have been a repeat of WM30 all over again.

 

[Eva]

The [conspiracy] theory is Reigns. Reigns is the reason he hasn't been cleared to compete again. It would have been a repeat of WM30 all over again.

WWE have moved out of the way a lot to protect him, which makes that theory make sense, but they're doing more harm by not clearing him at all. They underestimate the fans and their ability to read through the smokescreens.

 

[Com Fox]

WWE have moved out of the way a lot to protect him, which makes that theory make sense, but they're doing more harm by not clearing him at all. They underestimate the fans and their ability to read through the smokescreens.

Well some people are actually saying that Bryan is in the exact same situation as Edge (which is 🤬 because no one would medically clear Edge), which means people are eating it up.

 

[Eva]

Well some people are actually saying that Bryan is in the exact same situation as Edge (which is 🤬 because no one would medically clear Edge), which means people are eating it up.

And the pop that Reigns got when he entered at the start of Raw further proves they are buying it.

 

[Eva]

So, it's a legitimate retirement. Damn.

 

[Terronium-12]

I feel exactly as I did when Edge announced his retirement. Of course I'd rather him be healthy above all else, but there's just that small bit of me that's selfish and is saying "You can't be done."

He'll never face 'Taker, Lesnar, Rollins (as he is now), or Owens. To name a few.

And to think, all of this really started with that stupid WM match with Sheamus.

 

[Eva]

I feel exactly as I did when Edge announced his retirement. Of course I'd rather him be healthy above all else, but there's just that small bit of me that's selfish and is saying "You can't be done."

He'll never face 'Taker, Lesnar, Rollins (as he is now), or Owens. To name a few.

And to think, all of this really started with that stupid WM match with Sheamus.

I'm in that same boat. Undertaker (which was unlikely anyways), Lesnar (which probably would have been counterproductive), Rollins, Owens, Nakamura on a grand stage, Styles on a grand stage, Balor is another one, as is Samoa Joe. There's a large list and that is sad to see him leave with so much on the table. But he's not completely leaving WWE and apparently, it was an actual health reason.

 

[Com Fox]

His career in WWE was so short, only 6 years and he never had a proper run as World Champion. He either lost it in 18 Seconds, screwed over or stripped . His only 2 proper runs as champion were the Tag Team title run (my favourite as I loved Team Hell No ) and the U.S Championship run.

I still remember his feud with CM Punk, probably my favourite feud in the reality era, filled with confusion, action, drama, comedy and intense moments which left you hanging on TO the storyline until it ended the right way at Money in the Bank and was in my opinion the highlight of CM Punk's WWE Championship reign.

Is it just me, or does Vince McMahon's face seem off putting during the Daniel Bryan Celebration???

EDIT:

I feel like Seth Rollins is the last Main Eventer left that I care about but WWE apparently can't write Heels with small statures unless they are cowards. If only people like Kevin Owens, Dean Ambrose, Dolph Ziggler got real pushes.

 

[Stephan]

I still remember his feud with CM Punk, probably my favourite feud in the reality era, filled with confusion, action, drama, comedy and intense moments which left you hanging on TO the storyline until it ended the right way at Money in the Bank and was in my opinion the highlight of CM Punk's WWE Championship reign.

Is it just me, or does Vince McMahon's face seem off putting during the Daniel Bryan Celebration???

EDIT:

I feel like Seth Rollins is the last Main Eventer left that I care about but WWE apparently can't write Heels with small statures unless they are cowards. If only people like Kevin Owens, Dean Ambrose, Dolph Ziggler got real pushes.

I still remember that match where he lost the WHC title to Sheamus in less than 18secs back in WM28. Honestly that time they loved Sheamus as a face and his fella gimmick that time so he was I think over with his fans that time while DBry on the other hand was a heel and he was starting to becoming annoying that time with his Yes chant so that's why the creative decided to drop the title to Sheamus.

 

[Com Fox]

I still remember that match where he lost the WHC title to Sheamus in less than 18secs back in WM28. Honestly that time they loved Sheamus as a face and his fella gimmick that time so he was I think over with his fans that time while DBry on the other hand was a heel and he was starting to becoming annoying that time with his Yes chant so that's why the creative decided to drop the title to Sheamus.

I remember Daniel Bryan being loved for his YES! Chants even as a heel, people did love Sheamus but Bryan was a loved heel, and that isn't really an excuse to drop the title in 18 seconds and not have a proper match.

 

[Stephan]

I remember Daniel Bryan being loved for his YES! Chants even as a heel, people did love Sheamus but Bryan was a loved heel, and that isn't really an excuse to drop the title in 18 seconds and not have a proper match.

IMO for me I think the IWC is the one who loved DBry that time as a heel and the casual fans are the ones who are annoyed with DBry's YES chant.

It looks its the first time in this thread I mentioned the initials IWC.

 

[Com Fox]

IMO for me I think the IWC is the one who loved DBry that time as a heel and the casual fans are the ones who are annoyed with DBry's YES chant.

It looks its the first time in this thread I mentioned the initials IWC.

but while there are obvious Boo's from the casual viewers there were still multiple YES! Chants for Bryan.

but if Bryan was a heel then if he annoyed the casual viewers then he did his job right as heel's are meant to be hated by the casual audience and actually succeed. Del Rio is a perfect example of this being a 2 time WWE Champion, 2 time World Champion (though for the first one he was a face) and 2 times U.S Champion.

 

[Sanji Himura]

I don't know if this was reported yet, but according to whatculture.com, WWE refused to clear him because he failed a specific brain test that may or may not be related to concussions (it was proven that Chris Benoit's brain shown signs of repeated trauma to the brain because he kept using the headbutt dive in matches, yet never missed any significant amount of time for concussions.) In many ways, WWE actually protected Bryan from doing something stupid as a result from being an active competitor, and Bryan himself is remaining with the company, so they won't bury him completely.

 

[Stephan]

I don't know if this was reported yet, but according to whatculture.com, WWE refused to clear him because he failed a specific brain test that may or may not be related to concussions (it was proven that Chris Benoit's brain shown signs of repeated trauma to the brain because he kept using the headbutt dive in matches, yet never missed any significant amount of time for concussions.) In many ways, WWE actually protected Bryan from doing something stupid as a result from being an active competitor, and Bryan himself is remaining with the company, so they won't bury him completely.

So basically, WWE prevented Bryan from becoming Benoit 2.0.

 

[Eva]

So basically, WWE prevented Bryan from becoming Benoit 2.0.

That was my first thought when he said in Raw that he took a test and he wasn't as fine as he thought.

 

[Terronium-12]

He can easily be a color commentator.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Can I just say that whatever you think of the WWE and their part in all this I think they did an amazing job on Raw last night, the little video highlights were fantastic, the video montage at the top of the show was fantastic, they let him have quite a bit of time at the end without any interuptions, despite the sadness I thought it was one of the best segments in Raw's history, I was genuinely choked up at the end of it especially when he mentioned his late father, the whole segment was brilliant and the crowd definitely played their part, great crowd!.

He was an amazing wrestler who has paved the way for some of the smaller guys in the industry, he had a relatively short career at 16 years but he certainly packed a lot in!

THANK YOU DANIEL!!!

 

[Com Fox]

He can easily be a color commentator.

I don't think he really has the character or voice to be a color commentator, albeit he would be better than Byron Saxton.

So basically, WWE prevented Bryan from becoming Benoit 2.0.

I wouldn't say a Benoit 2.0 because there were more things than just concussions that set Benoit off but I understand the point.

EDIT: I think it is more in the line that they won't another CM Punk 2.0. If you listened to CM Punks podcast, he made the WWE and its doctors sound foolish by forcing Punk to wrestle despite concussions and broken ribs. I think ever since that judging by Daniel Bryan's story, the WWE doesn't want another health related walk out and bashing (which is fair enough), because if they kept forcing Bryan to Wrestle despite injuries Bryan could likely do a CM Punk.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Been hearing that Titus O'Neil has been suspended because of that incident that occurred right at the very end of the Daniel Bryan celebration on the WWE Network, I did see it but I'm not quite sure what happened, It involved Vince and at first it looked like Titus was ribbing him because he was welled up during the celebration when the roster were on the entrance ramp applauding Bryan, this is a strange one...

 

[Stephan]

Here's my question to you guys, do you think Kayfabe is dead?