Does Donald Trump Want to Ban German Luxury Cars from America?

winet
We don't care
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Who is "we?" It's apparent you don't, and I know for dang sure that others don't, but I'm an American and I do care. I have a vested interest in a future without Trump in the White House--not only one of giddy anticipation that I don't feel the least bit compelled to conceal, but also one of unease and anxiety.

Economic and social trends--good and bad--transcend administrations. An unnecessarily aggressive stance can win over in the sort term (I'm not convinced it has or will in this instance), but it also tends to feed resentment on the part of those at whom it's directed, and resentment has a funny way of lingering. I'm concerned about other governments' willingness to approach negotiations (of any sort) with the United States even after Trump.
 
TexRex
Who is "we?" It's apparent you don't, and I know for dang sure that others don't, but I'm an American and I do care. I have a vested interest in a future without Trump in the White House--not only one of giddy anticipation that I don't feel the least bit compelled to conceal, but also one of unease and anxiety.

Economic and social trends--good and bad--transcend administrations. An unnecessarily aggressive stance can win over in the sort term (I'm not convinced it has or will in this instance), but it also tends to feed resentment on the part of those at whom it's directed, and resentment has a funny way of lingering. I'm concerned about other governments' willingness to approach negotiations (of any sort) with the United States even after Trump.
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Sorry I don't care
 
Scaff
If Trumps aim is to try and get the EU to import US made Fords and GM products then its doomed to failure, its not going to make a blind bit of difference, which is exactly why in its retaliation the EU has not increased the tariffs on US car imports into the EU, and focused on Motorbikes, Jeans and Whiskey.
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If his aim is to be erratic enough so that American businesses can't make any long-term plans, lose their ability to survive "normal" changes to the market and have a massively increased risk of failure then he's absolutely nailed it.
 
winet
Sounds reasonable . However I must respectfully disagree concerning Politifact which is left of left as is 90% of US journalism
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"I disagree with their research so I'm going to continue repeating my made up statistics, because on the internet the more times you say it the truer it becomes. If you say it three times quickly it becomes truest, which is the best kind of true."

Solid rhetorical tactic, there.
 
This all sounds funny for me when you read this:

"The Pentagon and HUD can’t account for $21 trillion over just the past 17 years – enough money to pay back the current U.S. national debt."

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... but I guess this is just fake-news :)
 
GTP_Patrick1
So far in my and many others minds in this country Trump is doing exactly what he campaigned on. Immigration reform and new trade deals. The economy is also red hot, due to tax cuts and cutting crippling regulation. To portray Trump as hated everywhere is not true, his popularity in Eastern Europe is off the charts and he has been well received in the Middle East and Asia.

As for polling data, I lost all confidence when any poll is done about Trump, see past election. Clinton was getting a few hundred (did get a big crowd once but needed JayZ) at her rallies once a week, while Trump filled arenas twice a day. I made 400 dollars on that election, based on what I saw , not what pollsters told me.

Probably done with this as the views on Trump are either like or hate. He has smart men negotiating these deals, and in the end the US will get some relief from bad deals. I know in Western Europe he is not liked, but contrary to what you hear, he has many people in the US that are behind him.
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Skiddy
Where trading stops, war starts. But on the other hand, he's not into starting wars - he's a business man. And this is negotiation tactic (Start high then close the deal at the number you were really aiming at).
Seriously, the guy who buys a Mercedes, on Wall Street - he doesn't care about 25% price increase.
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Negotiations most often don't involce putting a knife on someones neck before you start. Those actions are mostly held back for when the negotiations fail.

These are not negotiations but it's blackmail.
 
BongoFury
This all sounds funny for me when you read this:

"The Pentagon and HUD can’t account for $21 trillion over just the past 17 years – enough money to pay back the current U.S. national debt."

Link

... but I guess this is just fake-news :)
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Well the fifth search result in the google search link you provided pretty much says that.
 
Imari
"I disagree with their research so I'm going to continue repeating my made up statistics, because on the internet the more times you say it the truer it becomes. If you say it three times quickly it becomes truest, which is the best kind of true."

Solid rhetorical tactic, there.
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Please note specifically any statistics I made up
 
winet
Please note specifically any statistics I made up
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I think he means this obvious one:

winet
Sounds reasonable . However I must respectfully disagree concerning Politifact which is left of left as is 90% of US journalism
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winet
Please note specifically any statistics I made up
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There was only one statistic in the post I quoted, so that might narrow it down for you. Reading comprehension is important, yo.

If you have an actual source for the below statement then please share it with us. It sounds an awful lot like a random number that you pulled out to represent your feelings on the matter of US journalism rather than any objective facts.

winet
Sounds reasonable . However I must respectfully disagree concerning Politifact which is left of left as is 90% of US journalism
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^I think you're on your own as far as doing any research for that question is concerned. Those comments sections are cesspits.
 
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winet
Sounds reasonable . However I must respectfully disagree concerning Politifact which is left of left as is 90% of US journalism
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Left of left or left of the american left wich is to the right of our considered right wing liberals?

Because if they are left of the american left that's not to hard in my eyes.
 
Dear me not. If you are not capable of assessing facts why should I do it for you and by the way you never mentioned the stats you thought I made up.

However this may help you out a bit. Nate Silver “As of 2013, only 7 percent of [journalists] identified as Republicans,” I was 3 points too low
 
winet
Dear me not. If you are not capable of assessing facts why should I do it for you and by the way you never mentioned the stats you thought I made up. As far as American journalism it's mostly low IQ journalism grads thus the liberal bias
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Sorry but that's not how it works here.

You made a factual claim, and that puts the onus on you to support it.

Throwing cheap digs around isn't a substitute, but it does go against the AUP.
 
winet
However this may help you out a bit. Nate Silver “As of 2013, only 7 percent of [journalists] identified as Republicans,” I was 3 points too low
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You were also low on the remainder of your source.... 28% Democrat, 50.2% independent, 14.6% 'other' (which gives you two-thirds of the ballot as neither Democrat nor Republican).

I wouldn't worry about those three points if I were you.
 
I always laugh at Europeans who think they are experts on American politics. It is an undeniable fact that academia and journalists in the US are predominantly liberal.
 
winet
I always laugh at Europeans who think they are experts on American politics. It is an undeniable fact that academia and journalists in the US are predominantly liberal.
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Yes, we get that you are big on the personal digs, but you still haven't supported the soecispe claim you made.
 
It's funny how the 50.2% of journalists who identify as independent in the linked source all count as left of left and predominantly liberal. An undeniable fact indeed.

Maybe those figures suffer from being put together by liberal journalists and we should wait for an independent centrist source whose politics line up with, say, Attilla The Hun's or Genghis Khan's perhaps.
 
Forget the link. It's common knowledge in the US

Scaff
Yes, we get that you are big on the personal digs, but you still haven't supported the soecispe claim you made.
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Not a personal dig. Just stating facts.
 
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winet
Not a personal dig. Just stating facts.
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Then as a fact you will have no problem supporting that with independently verifiable sources.

Oh and regardless of that it was still a sweeping dig at an entire continent, rather ironic given the very thread revolves around an American failing to understand the European automotive market.
 
Every so often, you have to take a step back and shake your head because you just can't believe what you're reading.

The vast majority of reporters are heavily biased towards the left wing because they're all low IQ journalism graduates. This includes over half of them who identify as unaffiliated with either of the main political parties.

Most of academia is also left wing, presumably because it's staffed with low IQ academic graduates (?).

This is an undeniable fact that every schoolchild in America knows, despite no certifiable proof having been presented to verify this. Maybe none is needed.

That these independent liberals are of lower IQ than the minority of republican journalists and academics isn't in any way a personal dig, just stating facts.

If I were not a European I would already know this. And it's just because one guy says so.

Have I missed anything so far?
 
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Okay, I've tried on a few different occasions to infer from context, and even played with my keyboard to discover possible intended words, but I can't figure this out and it's really starting to get on my nerves. I'm sure it's a typo, but...

Scaff
soecispe
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What?

:lol:
 
TenEightyOne
You were also low on the remainder of your source.... 28% Democrat, 50.2% independent, 14.6% 'other' (which gives you two-thirds of the ballot as neither Democrat nor Republican).

I wouldn't worry about those three points if I were you.
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Wait a minute. You're implying that there are people who work in a job where political independence is probably necessary, don't claim to pollsters that they are Republicans and are not raging lefties? What?
 

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