downloadable cars

[Force-Feedback]

Downloadable cars is a great idea!

Its possible as the PS3 WILL have a removeable hard drive (it just may not come with the console), and if there was the auction/used car feature online for them to be downloaded as well.

And as far as i know about the Blue-ray disks, they do a dual-layer version at nearly 50Gb on a disk, and are working on a 4-layer version so thats nearly 100Gb on one CD! i rekon that gt5 will probably use the dual layer but it'll be good if they used this new one!

Also, i hope they continue to make cars for download after the game is released, as i would like to see the Aston Martin DBRS9 on gt5, and as i doubt they will put it on the retail game, maybe they'll do these sort of cars for download.

 

[Tenacious D]

Well, I really doubt that GT5 will take up a quarter of the space on a single layer disc, but even if it took up half, that would be an astounding amount of content.

Another thing about the PS3 is that the developers were told to code for a hard drive being present, so if it's an outboard accessory, it'll evidently be included. It would add some difficulty having an online system without a harddrive, and I have little doubt that Sony will have a bunch of content online for many games, especially Gran Turismo.

 

[nismotuner108]

yeah man thats an awesome idea. downloading cars and tracks will keep gameplay going on longer. like morrowind for PC, you can keep downloading new quest so the game virtually never ends but yeah say another car comes out one year, you can update it so you can buy that one it would be sick cuz im sorta pissed that they dont have the new civic in GT4 redlines at 8000rpm, 196horses, sooo beautiful.

 

[Ram-Rod]

There is a website, NFSCars, that allows you to download cars into the NFS games. Are you suggesting something of this sort?

 

[Force-Feedback]

There is a website, NFSCars, that allows you to download cars into the NFS games. Are you suggesting something of this sort?

Basicly, yes.

Only it'll be a little different seeing as GT5 will be on PS3, not PC...

And with the PS3 having a hard drive...

The possibility of downloadable cars it there...👍

 

[McLaren]

There is a website, NFSCars, that allows you to download cars into the NFS games. Are you suggesting something of this sort?

But I think he wants the cars developed by PD, not fans (not saying their work isn't great).

 

[Dave A]

Fan made cars would lack the quality, also the physics for each car wouldn't match thoes of the real cars because we don't have access to enough data to set the cars files up poperly. I wouldn't want it any other way then proefeesionaly released packs.

 

[Force-Feedback]

Fan made cars would lack the quality, also the physics for each car wouldn't match thoes of the real cars because we don't have access to enough data to set the cars files up poperly. I wouldn't want it any other way then proefeesionaly released packs.

I agree:tup:

If people could make their own cars for GT5, they'll all have stupid physics and go at unrealistic speeds.

I do hope that PD make 'official' cars to download, because they may make special cars that might not make it to the retail GT5. (eg, Aston Martin DBRS9 , diesel versions of normal cars such as a laguna 1.9 dci, etc)

 

[Ram-Rod]

The PS3 will be a whopping 600 - 700 dollar machine. That cost more than some laptops. I somewhat agree with your thinking. Here is my thoughts.

Plus Side:

We would stay up-to-date.
This would even further expand the world of cars in the GT series.

Down side:

Um, wouldn't this ruin some of GT6?
This (downloadable cars) might only be for the PS3. And the PS3 is expensive.

More thoughts to make it better:

We should just have members (people who play GT5) simply make cars along with PD and make a store on GT5 will you can download the cars and the game will transfer it into the game. It's a good bit of thinking, yes, but, for me, its a 50% chance.

 

[Dave A]

I seriously doubt the PS3 will cost $600 oor more, you've been reading too much market speculation that's contradicted it'self many times. It'll be no more than £300 or $400 imo.

 

[Niels]

Yes I agree with live4speed,
but that doesn't take away that for a 400,- machine you should be able to expect something from the games. With the huge power of the PS3 we will be suprised anyway, but in wich way? Will it be downloadable cars? Weather? Better physics? Graphics?

Wich way PD will take is their choice, but one thing is certain, the direction they'll go will be damn good, because the PS3 simply allows this.

I think downloadable cars could become reality for GT5, I just doubt they will choose to.

 

[Force-Feedback]

Yes I agree with live4speed,
but that doesn't take away that for a 400,- machine you should be able to expect something from the games. With the huge power of the PS3 we will be suprised anyway, but in wich way? Will it be downloadable cars? Weather? Better physics? Graphics?

Wich way PD will take is their choice, but one thing is certain, the direction they'll go will be damn good, because the PS3 simply allows this.

I think downloadable cars could become reality for GT5, I just doubt they will choose to.

Yes, i agree...

With GT5, there's definitely gonna be better graphics, they'll hopefully have better physics and weather, but downloadable cars is 'on and off' untill we get more info from PD.

And you're right about 'whatever they do, it'll be damn good' 👍 ,
cos were gonna get something never seen before for GT...

If they have time to include downloadable cars it'll improve GT5 alot until the next GT...

 

[joseph dobson]

this would be alright because, if Ferrari's or cars that didn't come on the disk when it is released, can be downloadable at a later date so GT5 will always be up to date on cars. You could do this with tracks and weather situations like heavy rain and snow, now that would be cool! And there would be space to hold the stuff on the PS3's HDD which i read somewhere that it would be 60GB so it is big enough!!!

 

[Nemotion]

Downloadable stuff for the game would be just insane. I always thought that the GT series should have an online world where you could download the latest;

cars
tuning parts and manufacturers
bodykits (although I'm not into that kind of thing)
tyres
tracks
race events
games modes
menu skins
tips & tricks

Only problem would be, it would make the production of GT6 near impossible to beat over GT5, though I'm sure they'll find a way ;O)

 

[Force-Feedback]

Downloadable stuff for the game would be just insane. I always thought that the GT series should have an online world where you could download the latest;

cars
tuning parts and manufacturers
bodykits (although I'm not into that kind of thing)
tyres
tracks
race events
games modes
menu skins
tips & tricks

Only problem would be, it would make the production of GT6 near impossible to beat over GT5, though I'm sure they'll find a way ;O)

I doubt there would be many features online for GT5, but GT6 would definitely be better. Hopefully (as i keep saying!) downloadable cars would be a part of GT5

 

[Nemotion]

I doubt there would be many features online for GT5, but GT6 would definitely be better. Hopefully (as i keep saying!) downloadable cars would be a part of GT5

Cheers for pissing on my fire bruv! I did realise that online features will probably be kept to a minimum at least for the next GT anyway. I was just letting my imagination run(drive) away with me. But it would open the GT world up into something much much bigger then it is.

Manufacturer's could have their own input and there would be online show rooms for each make displaying new models etc.... Sorry, I'm doing it again!

A man can dream (quote - prof.farnsworth)

 

[Tenacious D]

Actually I'm sure there will be some kind of downloadable aspect to GT5. Even if you could grab as much stuff as there would be in GT6, by that time - 2009 or so - Sony would have developed much better tools to take advantage of the PS3 hardware. The GT6 engine will be even more refined and would have even more goodies for us, so no matter what PD/Sony offers us as far as downloadables for 5, that won't stop most of us from clamoring for GT6.

 

[Master_Yoda]

Cheers for pissing on my fire bruv!

OFF TOPIC: Why do you keep calling people Bruv?

 

[Force-Feedback]

Cheers for pissing on my fire bruv! I did realise that online features will probably be kept to a minimum at least for the next GT anyway. I was just letting my imagination run(drive) away with me. But it would open the GT world up into something much much bigger then it is.

Manufacturer's could have their own input and there would be online show rooms for each make displaying new models etc.... Sorry, I'm doing it again!

A man can dream (quote - prof.farnsworth)

look,

I wasn't tryin to put u down, i was merely trying to put it that the production of GT6 being impossible to beat over GT5 is a little bit 'false', GT5 could include a load of online features but that would mean its only the start of things to come for GT6.

by the way, i WANT the features you mentioned earlier to be in GT5 as well!

 

[kit_fisto]

I'm about as far from a computer and/or CGI whiz as one can get but it seems to me that the problem with downloadable cars and tracks is that each car has to be graphically integrated on the track with the other cars it is going to race with. Meaning that I don't think it is enough to model, say a Cobra, such that there is an accurate graphic representation of it on each portion of a given track, say Laguna Seca's corkscrew, but the CGI has to be prepared to accurately render the Cobra at a point of the corkscrew with as many as five (in GT4) other individual cars in and around it as well. I read somewhere that this was the problem with the Audi V16 streamliner and why it can only be driven by itself in photo mode and/or practice on the Nurburgring and/or the two test tracks without any other cars "interacting" with it. To do otherwise, PD would had to have rendered the Audi @ Point A on the Nurburgring plus Car A @ Point A on the Nurburgring with the Audi plus...Car E @ Point A with the Audi...etc.

I think one can see this issue most clearly in the endurance races when one's car pits in the company of another. If one follows another car into the pits there's a shot where your car passes the other car in its pit stall but when the "camera" focuses on the front of your car during the stop the pits are clearly empty behind your car. Yet, seconds later, in another view the other car will pass by your car on its way to rejoin the race. So PD obviously chose to render other cars in certain places and situations in relation to your car and not render them in other situations (like the pit stop sequence).

One of the most amazing sights to me in GT4 are the glimpses one gets at Infineon Raceway of the other cars way off on other portions of the track. If one is in B-Spec mode and immediately brings up the data screen and map one sees that the other cars are exactly where they are on the track map at that moment right down to the correct color and car profile! I'm almost positive that if one had a camera fixed in the Infineon pits that one could watch the progress of all six cars in the race out on the track as they wisk past the pits, go off into the distance, and then circle back around again. To me that's simply astounding realism.

 

[Nemotion]

OFF TOPIC: Why do you keep calling people Bruv?

Mate, friend, dude, bro, ace!!! No reason, I just do. Does it offend you?

 

[Nemotion]

look,

I wasn't tryin to put u down, i was merely trying to put it that the production of GT6 being impossible to beat over GT5 is a little bit 'false', GT5 could include a load of online features but that would mean its only the start of things to come for GT6.

by the way, i WANT the features you mentioned earlier to be in GT5 as well!

Chill winston, I was joking. I know what your saying and you're right...
I was merely injecting some humour into the conversation. Seeing as your only a couple of hours north, come down to London & have a pint... talk about cars!

Peace

(I see that I'm confusing people, but I'm an easy going bloke who likes nothing more than to be set free on a very, very long road on a decent set of wheels. People need to chill, who wants to break the ice and do the London - Shanghai rally with me?)

 

[BMWteamPTG]

well the only thing i think that should be downloaded is the weather conditions. not real time (i live in the US, if i were to race at Nurb, then itd be dark almost all the time).

but weather conditions for me, here, would be awesome. downloadable cars would make a GT6 absolete. thered be no reason to release GT6...look at some of the computer games that just keep coming out with expansion packs...they need not to release a new game, just improve their current one.

 

[Tenacious D]

Well, not quite. GT5 will be built using the initial development kits and knowledge of the PS3 architecture. GT6 will be built with more advanced software designed to squeeze even more horsepower from the PS3, and programmers will have developed clever coding techniques to do much more with this potent console. 6 will be a much more advanced game than 5, so I don't think that giving GT5 additional content will keep too many people from freaking out over a much more endowed GT6.

 

[LGforce]

I realy would like to download cars. But not only pd cars. There must be the upertunity to download second hand cars from your buddies. i don`t know if your understand what i mean. Than you can sell your car online. or even build cars and then sell them to rookie tuners. I will do that for sure.

 

[Canadian Speed]

I realy would like to download cars. But not only pd cars. There must be the upertunity to download second hand cars from your buddies. i don`t know if your understand what i mean. Than you can sell your car online. or even build cars and then sell them to rookie tuners. I will do that for sure.

I kind of like what they did for Forza... You make skins and sell them... That way it appears to be many many cars, that have real stats, but look the way you'd like them to look... Add in body kits and stuff and you have a virtual online Autotrader network...

 

[Tenacious D]

What he said.

Since Sony is making a big deal about the Playstation HUB or whatever the online community is going to be called, I'd think that including lots of live online things with every game is a no-brainer. I posted something about this very thing a couple of months ago or so, assuming that Polyphony will give us a paint shop with lots of Photoshop high tech trickery. The artists and modders will be able to make a small fortune in Credits creating good looking competitive cars and offering them for sale. Even with the limits of Forza's paint shop, you can do some amazing things with it, and artists and modders are selling and trading cars every day in Live. Gran Turismo 5 will undoubtedly offer something much more powerful.

 

[driftomania]

can someone in touch with marketing tell me if this would work.

Sell GT5 for $60,
$5 a month or $50 a year for GT5 unlimited access (tracks/ cars/ updates)
Keep this going for a LOOONNNGGG time. and not come out with a GT6 till lets say 5-6 years?


How many would pay $50 a year for unlimited Updates. (for example, New S2000 comes out after the realese of GT5, And you want to drive it. Go online, download new Car, and its added to your game.... it has a possibility to incorporate Thousands of cars/ tracks and sorts.)

My question is, Would it be more profitable for Polyphony to release a new game after a couple years, or do the upgrades i explained. thanks.

P.S. Sorry for the grammar and spelling.

 

[Tenacious D]

I think it would work. That's another thing I posted about a few weeks ago, the possibility that PD/Sony would offer periodic updates for GT5, and whether or not that would make a GT6 unnecessary, at least for a few years.

I think it really depends on how well the current development kits harness most of the power of the PS3 hardware. If Sony worked a miracle, and the PS3 is such a breeze to write game code for, and all the effects and physics you could possibly want are just a few lines of code away, then it's possible that GT6 will be marginally better than GT5.

If that were the case, milking GT5 for all its worth makes perfect sense. Have Polyphony come up with content packs every three to six months for a fee, maybe $24.95, along with possibly some freebies to make the gamer public think Sony cares more for them than Microsoft. Then in three to five years, when coding for the PS3 has matured and developers can do some more tricks, release a GT6. Of course in five years, it'll be time for a PS4, but that's another story.

However, I don't think anyone can fully grasp what the PS3 is capable of. I expect that the 2nd and 3rd gen dev kits will have the programmers freaking out with what they can put in games. Thinking this is the more likely scenario, I'd expect Polyphony to come out with a GT6 in two or three years after GT5.

Even then, I'd think that Polyphony would offer something for the billions of us who bought GT5, and some of it for free. But we'll see.

 

[Hapul]

pretty good idea...would keep me more interested as the car list would always be changing. would be much more convienient also for cars that are released after GT5 so we wouldnt have to wait until gt6 is released to see them.

That's just the thing - I think that after GT5 is released they couldn't be stuffed what happens - they're probably already into making GT'the next one'