Driverless Audi RS 7 at racing speeds at Hockenheim
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Let's start then, shall we?
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You've stated that computers are "no better" than humans with regards to the subject. So unless you meant they are are on a completely even keel with one another - nope.
If it's correct, you should have no trouble providing proof.
The reality, apparently, is that these systems can't exist. Yet here Audi is...
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That you now have the gall to then quote the AUP with posts like this just littering your post history? Really?
Again, do explain how autonomous cars, with faster reflexes, more knowledge of their surroundings, and the lack of fatigue would not improve traffic flow and minimize the Convoy Effect.
As an added bonus about that whole factual thing: you were saying?
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But you do get camel racing with robots. They make them look humanoid so the camels don't get scared.
The future! Automation! Unemployment! No more jockeys!
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Oh this thread is hilarious. Worth clicking the show ignored posts link for 
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Sorry, I did not have time to keep up with your daily spew - I was busy consulting for clients. The folks that pay me handsomely for my opinions, intellect and skill.
Ignoring the fact that your name calling is a clear violation of the AUP, how about the fact that the 'unintended acceleration' fiasco was exaggerated and mostly human error YET still Audi paid dearly. Every person with an IQ above room temperature knew the Audi 100 'unintended acceleration' fiasco was mostly human error.Give it a rest, you tit. You have yet to even prove this will happen beyond examples with more holes in them than a chain link fence.
Remember when all of that was highly exaggerated & blown out of proportion by the media? Naw, because you were too busy reading up next why Corvairs were dangerous.
That is the point. When Audis automated cars actually do start killing people without human assistance we can chat about what a great company they once where.
I will be proven correct in the end. Fully automated civilian commuter vehicles will never become the de facto standard for transportation.
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Never? In your lifetime certainly not, but never? 100 years from now? 500 years from now? 1300 years from now?
Hyperbole or not, never is always a strong word to use. And it's pretty hard to take one of your predictions seriously considering you've already backtracked from "automated technology won't be in production cars, it cannot happen" thanks to Audi's new A8. You've already been proven wrong, and I wouldn't doubt that it'll happen again.
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I didn't realize that you were the only person with a job in America. I guess I've just been part of a simulation all this time.
Tell me, does it impress your clients that you can foil us with half-truths, or do you see your clients as income sources for which you'd say anything to court their wallets? They see right through you as well as we do. I'm sure they'd love to hear your tales of internet gallantry as much as we do, which translates to a number akin to zero.
RC45
As much as I enjoy driving for the sake of it, exploring our fine land, the facts remain that automation is what the masses desire. If the convienences of firearms, the Industrial Revolution, mass production, locomotives, automobiles, aircraft, telephones, television, computers, and portable electronic devices outweigh the trials of their initial in unreliability, bulk, and potential dangers, then we will likely shelve those problems when their safety specifications are hammered out and public fear is alleviated.
We can always resort our trustworthy media outlets and advertisers to scare us from moving anywhere once they have stoked our fears into a boil over anything automated. Natirally, they're provided by further automation and technological leaps which allowed them to gain verbal traction in the information marketplace.
Society has seen its pangs for nostalgia, and they're driven (in some cases literally) by the actions of a previous generation. But as each generation ages, a newer one emerges, and so on and so forth, bringing about its own desires for their halcyon days. As much as I like human-controlled conveyances which inspire me, make me think, take me to places near and far, and even sustain and blossom my own income (and others by the nature of my work), their days will slowly and gradually be numbered. The basic concept is sound, and in a society and land that promotes the individuality of man and his control over all he surveys, over the masses, it will remain so. Once folks see safety and convienences, possible reduced cost of ownership, there will be a shift in that towards more self-driving cars. How is a society with less trust in other drivers an easier and less stressful one to navigate? We've already entrusted computers to help make decisions because they're made by other humans, just as much as we feel no constant betrayal in every mechanical component of our vehicles.
As you're such as expert, you'll probably change your mind as soon as the contract-waving client barks out new marching orders, and you'll obey the drawing of the ink pen do as long as it gets a signature. Hey, we all gotta make a living, pledging fealty to keep our precious Corvette and motorcycles intact is a worthy cause. But to change opinion is not heresy, unless you're on a crusade to slay all self-driving occupants...something to think about when you take that flight to Hawaii, and you're somewhere over the vast Pacific Ocean.
But hey, I merely tolerate your posts in between all the other things I accomplish in life, work, and leisure; though that has nothing to do with this discussion. Except, I haven't boasted about my place in life to the other 200,000 members over the past 12 years. No matter, you'll just turn around and spite us, and we'll have a good laugh in your absence. If you wish to continue with your haughty attitude, you'll be shown the door as quickly as it can hit you in your rear.
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Dude, you run a dealership.
When was the last time somebody said "Gosh, little Jimmy is so smart, think he'll grow up to sell Corvettes?"
Think you make more than anybody else here? Please. Think that anyone cares in the slightest? Nope. Think that helps your argument? Nuh-uh.
No wonder you hate advancements in auto technology, dealerships are one of the first things that the internet and computers are killing.
When was the last time somebody said "Gosh, little Jimmy is so smart, think he'll grow up to sell Corvettes?"
Think you make more than anybody else here? Please. Think that anyone cares in the slightest? Nope. Think that helps your argument? Nuh-uh.
No wonder you hate advancements in auto technology, dealerships are one of the first things that the internet and computers are killing.
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Ok Germany, you can make a car that drives faster around a track faster than a human.
But will it blend?
But will it blend?
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Better question is, if the car has a parts problem, does the driver have to pay for the damages or does Audi take it out of pocket because the car was driving itself.
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Shame they don't get their money's worth if you know anything about your product like you do motorbikes.
Except you since you failed to acknowledge any of that. Thanks for revealing your intelligence level to us.
Yawn.
You can't prove they will kill anyone and that's a fact.
Another thing you can't prove.
Amuses me that you've been acting like you're in some sort of profession that requires a lot of knowledge in this field, thus you know better than all of us. And yet, it's revealed you just sell cars or whatever. Haha, absolutely nowhere near the skill or intellect you think you have is required to do that. I have guys selling cars probably close to half your age where I work. Just great people skills and an understanding of the vehicles.
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RC45
I smell far too much male bovine excrement to take you seriously.
1 - What do you do for a living?
2 - What qualifications do you actually have?
3 - Do you have a co-worker who is just slightly better than you at everything?
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*were (you've used where incorrectly twice now, third time lucky eh?)
Anyway, have you not watched Demolition Man? Manual controls such as the steering wheel disappear into a little cubby until such time as they are required. A bunch of Hollywood writers came up with some plausible solutions to many of your doubts 21 years ago. But then they probably didn't have the burden of overwhelming cynicism weighing heavy on their shoulders, as the last three pages of this thread suggest that you clearly have.
For someone who claims to be so smart, you seem to massively underestimate the intelligence of the people developing these technologies.
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Shall we go back on topic?
I can remember seeing something on tv about an American car company having autonomous cars doing highway speeds, on a separate highway lane, 5 or 6 of them, following each other really close. And this was either in the late 90's or early 00's.
And seeing that computer technology has exploded since then, I can see the first fully autonomous cars driving within 5 years and most likely even sooner.
For those who spend a lot of time on the road in traffic this can be a major advantage. Imagine all that time coming available for doing work, work that you would normally finish when you are at home. Internet is pretty much everywhere nowadays so even an videoconference could be held in the autonomobile.
And btw, Volvo is already doing highway tests with their system
I can remember seeing something on tv about an American car company having autonomous cars doing highway speeds, on a separate highway lane, 5 or 6 of them, following each other really close. And this was either in the late 90's or early 00's.
And seeing that computer technology has exploded since then, I can see the first fully autonomous cars driving within 5 years and most likely even sooner.
For those who spend a lot of time on the road in traffic this can be a major advantage. Imagine all that time coming available for doing work, work that you would normally finish when you are at home. Internet is pretty much everywhere nowadays so even an videoconference could be held in the autonomobile.
And btw, Volvo is already doing highway tests with their system
