Ok, I gave all the settings posted here a try just to find out what other's have been doing, and to perhaps figure out how I should want this car to feel. I did a lap or two in each setup at Grand Valley Speedway.
I was not able to put each setup on my car exactly as written here. I had stage 3 weight, no rollcage installed, no wing, only n2 tires available, and no power upgrades. But I installed any suspension, lsd, brake, and ballast mods suggested. It's also worth noting that i was trying them out on the DFP, not the DS2.
I don't mean to insult or offend anyone here, these are just my honest thoughts about each setup. Take it as constructive criticism.
Darkest Hour
Rear bottoms out even on straights while accelerating (can kinda see car bouncing with bumper cam in some places).
Horrid understeer, even with DFP - cannot initiate drift at all. Probably comes from combination of oversoft rear and overstiff front, with ride height that is too low. Any oversteer that does result was unexpected by me.
Could not power over out of corner properly.
Demon camber had no effect when car is so unbalanced.
If you can drift this DH, then 👍 but it sure as heck was not cutting it for me.
Nos2
Rear bottoming out. Car gave some funny hops/shakes through compressions and leaving corners over curbs. Rear seems much to snappy for a car set with 4.0kgf.mm springs – big tip off that is was bottoming out.
I set rear spring rate to 8 (from 4) – still noted some bottoming with the low ride height in some areas, but in general oversteer came more easily with no sacrifice made in steering response. Became possible to control car rotation with throttle.
Note – I had no wing on the car, n2's front and rear, and no power upgrades.
Angle Providence
Rear too stiff for me - but likely due to the fact that my car is a few hundred kg lighter than yours.
No detectable bottoming out, easily controlled in state of power over – the car's understeer helped out here.
Still a bit difficult to initiate drift consistently.
I found your settings improved by reducing the LSD initial torque back down to around 10 or 15 – this is personal preference though, and is probably because I was using no tire stagger.
Ske
These settings bog down the least during a drift, and have the most angle of those tried so far.
High speed drifts are no trouble.
Low speed drifts were a little hard to hold as understeer creeps back for me.
Ride over curbing was harsher than expected for these spring rates. I expect the last two traits described are result of the extremely stiff front stabilizer, and perhaps the rear bound.
Not a big fan of the extreme toe setting, but may just be me and the DFP. I had to tone it back to drive comfortably.
***Vtec513***
Excellent steering feel – has the lightness that I like (I expect this is result of your damper setup).
I'm not 100% sure how you got the response that you did with init torque setting so high. It must be from the negative front toe.
IMO, these have the most potential of the settings posted so far. Occasionally I got understeer entering a drift, but probably because I only spent two laps on settings.
I might set rear dampers a touch stiffer if I planned to use these.
I guess that is another point worth mentioning (although it may have been obvious):
These observations are fogged by driving errors at my end, and by the fact that I only took 1 grip lap, then 2 drift laps with each car. I might have felt differently about each setup had I spent more time with them. But, if it's a car in my GT4 garage, I want to be able to get in it and drift without much need to readdapt to it.
I'm gonna go back to working on mine now. There may be a few similarities between vtec's settings and my own by the time I'm done. I think I'll try borrowing a few ideas.
and I don't imagine that front stabilizer setting is helping you a whole lot in the body roll department. Extreme.
. Nothing is giving me the kind of front end bite that I desire so I'll give a wing a try later on tonight and hope for the best...
