EMT Refuses to Help Dying Pregnant Woman

[Slash]

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/06/2...refused-care-dying-pregnant-woman-when-coffee

Charges were dropped after this EMT refused to help a dying pregnant woman because she was on her coffee break. WTF is wrong is America these days.

Even if she couldn't provided any assistance herself, she could of at least gotten someone else who could have.

 

[MisterWhiskers]

This makes me want to shoot myself in the head. SMH America 👎.

 

[Tornado]

She refused to help a dying pregnant woman because she was an ambulance dispatcher and thus, even though trained as a regular EMT, didn't have the equipment to actually provide emergency care. It wasn't "because she was on her coffee break," as if the woman was dying in the backroom while the EMT sat down to drink a coffee.

 

[Zenith]

Possibly the most obvious case of a misleading article I've ever seen. SMH at readers unable to use critical thought.

 

[Slash]

She refused to help a dying pregnant woman because she was an ambulance dispatcher and thus, even though trained as a regular EMT, didn't have the equipment to actually provide emergency care. It wasn't "because she was on her coffee break," as if the woman was dying in the backroom while the EMT sat down to drink a coffee.

I don't care who you are, if you can get help then get help. You don't just let someone die simply because you are on break or don't have equipment. The point is to get off your ass regardless of what you are doing or who you are and get someone who can do the job if you are unable to. That's what makes me angry.

 

[MisterWhiskers]

I don't care who you are, if you can get help then get help. You don't just let someone die simply because you are on break or don't have equipment. The point is to get off your ass regardless of what you are doing or who you are and get someone who can do the job if you are unable to. That's what makes me angry.

This. The ***** didn't even bother to get up and help a woman with a baby in her stomach. That's like sitting next to someone starving and eating all of the food for yourself.

 

[Joel]

I don't care who you are, if you can get help then get help. You don't just let someone die simply because you are on break or don't have equipment..

We've already established she didn't "let her die because she was on break".

The point is to get off your ass regardless of what you are doing or who you are and get someone who can do the job if you are unable to. That's what makes me angry.

Did you miss the part where she called an ambulance?

Seriously, READ the article before posting it.

 

[MisterWhiskers]

We've already established she didn't "let her die because she was on break".



Did you miss the part where she called an ambulance?

Seriously, READ the article before posting it.

But the point is that she at least should have done something to help. She didn't even at least say a simple sorry.

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

But the point is that she at least should have done something to help. She didn't even at least say a simple sorry.

Please leave again, you are hurting my head.

 

[MisterWhiskers]

Please leave again, you are hurting my head.

No, I'll keep doing it.

 

[Pupik]

WTF is wrong is America these days.

Here's part of the answer.

http://[b]foxnews[/b]insider.com/...something-something

The other part ends in -NN and -NBC, but that's news media nowadays: stooping to the level of the New York Post.

 

[Zenith]

I don't care who you are, if you can get help then get help.

She did. She called an ambulance.

You don't just let someone die simply because you are on break or don't have equipment.

She did not "just let someone die," she did what she could with the resources she had. It's interesting that a trained medical professional would decide that calling a truck full of medical equipment and more medical professionals would be the best course of action. Maybe she knows more about this than you.

The point is to get off your ass regardless of what you are doing or who you are and get someone who can do the job if you are unable to. That's what makes me angry.

She did. She called an ambulance.

This. The ***** didn't even bother to get up and help a woman with a baby in her stomach. That's like sitting next to someone starving and eating all of the food for yourself.

She did. She called an ambulance.

And that is a hilariously weak analogy. If the woman dying was a starving person, you would be angry at the EMT for failing to give her food when she didn't have any.

Just out of curiosity, what is either of your backgrounds in emergency medical treatment? I've got some. I'd bet money that you have no significant training.

But the point is that she at least should have done something to help. She didn't even at least say a simple sorry.

Oh look, apparently saying sorry is more effective than calling ambulance.

And you have no proof that she didn't provide condolences.

Beyond all of this, even if the EMT could have done anything, she would have no obligation to do so. People are not logically or legally obligated to provide medical support regardless of qualifications. Think before you rant.

 

[Tornado]

But the point is that she at least should have done something to help. She didn't even at least say a simple sorry.

The point is to get off your ass regardless of what you are doing or who you are and get someone who can do the job if you are unable to.

She did do something. She did get off her ass to get someone who can do the job. She called an ambulance. The fact that she was a trained EMT doesn't mean anything if she doesn't have the equipment to actually help the woman that a regular first-responder would probably have (as opposed to an EMT dispatcher on break like she was); and her refusing to help after calling an ambulance is far more likely to do with that than "Screw her, I'm drinking my latte."

 

[MisterWhiskers]

So what she called an ambulance. Help her with what you got, and quick!

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

So what she called an ambulance. Help her with what you got, and quick!

DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH? She didn't have the equipment needed to help the pregnant women, so called for people who did. It's that simple.

 

[MisterWhiskers]

DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH? She didn't have the equipment needed to help the pregnant women, so called for people who did. It's that simple.

Jo, nuk di qysh me fol Anglisht. But seriously, even if she didn't have equipment, she could do CPR to help.

 

[Tornado]

So what she called an ambulance. Help her with what you got, and quick!

But seriously, even if she didn't have equipment, she could do CPR to help.

The woman was having a severe asthma attack. I'm not a trained EMT, but I'm pretty sure that the entirety of first aid for someone having a severe asthma attack basically boils down to "Give them their inhaler" and "call an ambulance;" because "emergency tracheotomy with a coffee shop plastic knife" probably isn't something EMTs are trained to do even if they did have the tools.

 

[Maccer_42]

They sure do try and make her seem like a right scumbag in that video lol. I can easily imagine an alternative headline to this story if she had got involved and the woman still died would be.

"Pregnant woman KILLED by EMT DISPATCHER due to incorrect treatment"

Or something like that, and then ends up getting sued by the family for getting involved instead of letting the actual EMT's do it. She called the ambulance, there was no equipment there for her to personally do anything, seems to me she did what she professionally should have done. Of course she could have done A LOT from a moral point of view but not every one has the same morals and I don't think people should be forced to all have one kind of moral view.

 

[Zenith]

Jo, nuk di qysh me fol Anglisht. But seriously, even if she didn't have equipment, she could do CPR to help.

You have no understanding of emergency medical care.

You do not know how CPR works or its limitations.

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

...she could do CPR to help.

For someone having an asthma attack?

If you ever happen to come across me as I lay dying, please just let me die. Thanks.

 

[Slash]

I know she called an ambulance but there must be something you can do while waiting for it. They don't exactly arrive in a minute or so (at least around here).

 

[Tornado]

I know she called an ambulance but there must be something you can do while waiting for it. They don't exactly arrive in a minute or so (at least around here).

Again: First aid for someone having an asthma attack is to give them the inhaler they are hopefully carrying and call an ambulance. EMTs aren't M*A*S*H doctors.

 

[Zenith]

I know she called an ambulance but there must be something you can do while waiting for it. They don't exactly arrive in a minute or so (at least around here).

Such as what?

 

[MisterWhiskers]

Comfort her, at least do something. When you see someone dying, do you just stare at them? Lets be honest.

 

[Pagey279]

Google how to treat an asthma attack, the advice basically consists of call an ambulance (which she did), and find the persons inhaler, which I presume she didn't have.

There's nothing else you can do. It's fairly basic medical knowledge.

 

[MisterWhiskers]

I understand that, but at least... ugh did you read my last post?

 

[Joel]

I know she called an ambulance but there must be something you can do while waiting for it. They don't exactly arrive in a minute or so (at least around here).

Comfort her, at least do something. When you see someone dying, do you just stare at them? Lets be honest.

Grasping at straws .

What exactly could this woman have done? Happy words and CPR don't help an asthma attack.

 

[Daniel]

I understand that, but at least... ugh did you read my last post?

Okay, so you're saying that she should be charged because she didn't comfort the woman?


Please, don't ever be a lawyer.

 

[MisterWhiskers]

Okay, so you're saying that she should be charged because she didn't comfort the woman?


Please, don't ever be a lawyer.

I really don't want to be a lawyer. All I'm saying is, something is better than nothing.

 

[Naptown25rs]

She did do something. She did get off her ass to get someone who can do the job. She called an ambulance. The fact that she was a trained EMT doesn't mean anything if she doesn't have the equipment to actually help the woman that a regular first-responder would probably have (as opposed to an EMT dispatcher on break like she was); and her refusing to help after calling an ambulance is far more likely to do with that than "Screw her, I'm drinking my latte."

The woman was having a severe asthma attack. I'm not a trained EMT, but I'm pretty sure that the entirety of first aid for someone having a severe asthma attack basically boils down to "Give them their inhaler" and "call an ambulance;" because "emergency tracheotomy with a coffee shop plastic knife" probably isn't something EMTs are trained to do even if they did have the tools.

Wow... You have more common sense about you than the average emergency medical "professionals" I've encountered over the years, let alone the average bystander.

Do people really have such unrealistic expectations of off duty EMT's/Paramedics/Nurses/Doctors? I thought maybe it was just the simple mindedness that comes along with the small town that I live in.

The EMT in question was a dispatcher, so while she does have the training, she probably had little to no real world experience in a situation like this.

Also, she had not one piece of medical equipment with her to provide aid for the person in need... So other than possibly helping this person with her inhaler and calling an ambulance (which she did) theres not really anything else she could have done other than hold this persons hand until the ambulance arrived.