The 905 would actually be the easier choice than the CLK, I think. Seismica, assuming that you mean the Sarthe II race, the CLK can be offered 200 points without much trouble, and it would also be a relatively easy win. The best lineup to use would be the 88C-V, R92CP, Sauber, R89C, and XJR-9, which should be the ninth to appear. If you use R1s and minimum downforce, it could be a pretty good race, but most cars will blow away the field at Sarthe II. Try the Panoz if you want a more naturally challenging race, although my guess is that you don't own it, and it's very expensive to buy.
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Seismica
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Just realised, its Sarthe 'II' I need to do, not Sarthe 'I'. That would have been good, finishing a 24 hour in A-spec, to get an Audi R8... I would've probably chucked my PS2 out the window 
Well that makes it easier I guess, since the AI cars really suck at Sarthe II, as long as my car can hit ~220mph on the Mulsane straight, I should be ok.
I don't want it to be too challenging, i'm not quite as good a driver as you Austin
La Sarthe is not one of my stronger circuits either. I heard the Panoz is worse than the BMW-Mclaren F1, I don't think that would be a good choice for me.
My thought right now is go with either the R390 or the CLK GTR. I've never used the 905 before, i suppose that could be interesting. Or I could be adventurous and strap a turbo to a JGTC car and try my hand with that...
Well that makes it easier I guess, since the AI cars really suck at Sarthe II, as long as my car can hit ~220mph on the Mulsane straight, I should be ok.
I don't want it to be too challenging, i'm not quite as good a driver as you Austin
La Sarthe is not one of my stronger circuits either. I heard the Panoz is worse than the BMW-Mclaren F1, I don't think that would be a good choice for me.My thought right now is go with either the R390 or the CLK GTR. I've never used the 905 before, i suppose that could be interesting. Or I could be adventurous and strap a turbo to a JGTC car and try my hand with that...
In all honesty, regardless of your perception of your driving abilities, practically any car will work. You're underestimating just how slow the AI cars are, especially in the PAL version, which is the only one in which they are afflicted with wall-bashing syndrome. As long as your car has good top speed, you should win handily, which means that you can afford to be original and to pick a car that you enjoy to drive. Besides what you and I have already mentioned, I'd suggest trying any of the following: the Vertigo (reduce downforce and add ballast for 200 points), the Chaparral 2D (add a turbo), any JGTC or DTM car (add a turbo), the Speed 12 (use R1s, a wing, and maybe a power upgrade), the Cien (use R1s, a wing, and NA3), or the ZZII (use R1s, a wing, and a turbo). And if none of those strikes your fancy, then there's still plenty of room to be creative. 👍 Unfortunately, some very enjoyable cars to drive just turn into bricks on the straight and are outpaced even by the 205-mph PAL AI; these include the Toyota 7, the LM cars (like the Zonda and the GT-R Concept), and the GT1 cars (like the Viper and Corvette). You might still consider trying them, but I had no luck using them in stock form, myself, back when I eventually decided to use the 905.
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I used the black Toyota GT-ONE (used, old oil) for both Le Sarthe races for 200pts each, very easy but before the race I would advise a chassis refresh as the car tends to drift when braking from high speeds. Advise practising a lot aswell, you will need at as in the latter hours the chassis refresh tends to wear off and the car can start drifting again.
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I ran SartheII immediately followed by SartheI for 400 points in the Minolta Toyota!
I think it took a lot of ballast, very little downforce and very hard tyres to be offered 200 points, but with a bit of detuning almost any car can get the 200.
My advice is to choose a car that you will be comfortable driving for a very long time, though after a good many hours driving you will know both the car and the track very well. The Speed 12 Austin343 suggests would be interesting, but are you ready to find out how it handles with a warped chassis half way through the race?
In theory your best choice would be to run your used 787B for 200 miles after its oil change and then enter the race. It should then not lose any power at all for the next 3000 miles where a new car would lose around 2% of its power in that time. See the first two posts in this thread for details.
I think it took a lot of ballast, very little downforce and very hard tyres to be offered 200 points, but with a bit of detuning almost any car can get the 200.
My advice is to choose a car that you will be comfortable driving for a very long time, though after a good many hours driving you will know both the car and the track very well. The Speed 12 Austin343 suggests would be interesting, but are you ready to find out how it handles with a warped chassis half way through the race?
In theory your best choice would be to run your used 787B for 200 miles after its oil change and then enter the race. It should then not lose any power at all for the next 3000 miles where a new car would lose around 2% of its power in that time. See the first two posts in this thread for details.
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200 A-spec Sarthe 24hr II (Stock, used Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car '98) *Now with Pics!*
It's definitely possible in the used Nissan, and I didn't use a chassis refresh, so the car would handle uniformly throughout the race (and be eligible for the Stock Car Thread.) If you get used to the bent handling to begin with, it won't come back to surprise you and cause you to make mistakes later on.
With no oil change and some reduction in downforce, the Nissan gets 200 points while avoiding the Sauber which is the fastest AI car, and crucially in the NTSC game doesn't make the mistakes on the Hunaudieres Straight that the Sauber in the PAL game does, namely crashing into the barriers later in the race.
You can use R2 tyres with this car which afford some additional grip to overcome the reduced downforce, and yet you'll still find that you're having to pit due to needing fuel rather than wearing out the tyres. 👍
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Just started it now. Lap 2, 10 seconds ahead.
I'm doing it in the CLK GTR, R1 tyres.
This is going to be one boring race... should i quit now and re-attempt in a different car or just keep going? Umm, I think i'll just keep at it, seen as it is the first time i've done it, may aswell get it over with.
I'm doing it in the CLK GTR, R1 tyres.
This is going to be one boring race... should i quit now and re-attempt in a different car or just keep going? Umm, I think i'll just keep at it, seen as it is the first time i've done it, may aswell get it over with.
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4 hr Nurburgring 200 A-spec (Tuning Car)
Lineup
1 Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe `04
2 Chevrolet Camaro SS `00
3 Audi RS 4 `01
4 Lancia Delta Integrale Evoluzione `91
5 Jaguar S-Type R `02
Car: HONDA S2000 Type V `00
231HP 1108kg PWR 4.79
Mod:
Racing Exhaust
Racing Brakes
FC-Tranny @ 3.750
Triple Clutch
Racing Flywheel
Shaft
Semi Racing Suspension
Rigidy Refresh
Weight Stage 2
N2/N2 Tyres
Pit: 8,15,22
Best Lap: 8'16.999
Total Time: 4:04'43.158
MoV: 2.5mins over the Camaro
Here a Picture of the Car:
http://www.fileupyours.com/view/271511/HONDA_S2000_Type_V.JPG
4 hr Nurburgring 200 A-spec (Tuning Car)
Lineup
1 Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe `04
2 Chevrolet Camaro SS `00
3 Audi RS 4 `01
4 Lancia Delta Integrale Evoluzione `91
5 Jaguar S-Type R `02
Car: HONDA S2000 Type V `00
231HP 1108kg PWR 4.79
Mod:
Racing Exhaust
Racing Brakes
FC-Tranny @ 3.750
Triple Clutch
Racing Flywheel
Shaft
Semi Racing Suspension
Rigidy Refresh
Weight Stage 2
N2/N2 Tyres
Pit: 8,15,22
Best Lap: 8'16.999
Total Time: 4:04'43.158
MoV: 2.5mins over the Camaro
Here a Picture of the Car:
http://www.fileupyours.com/view/271511/HONDA_S2000_Type_V.JPG
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Nurburgring 4 hours - for 200 A-spec points
I have found another suitable car to take down five AI competitors at Nurburgring, and earn the coveted 200 points.
I have just finished a very pleasant 4 hours at the 'Ring in my Holden Commodore SS '04!!
I ran my Holden Commodore against the following lineup:
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR '04
Mercedes CLK 55 AMG '00
Chevy Camaro SS '00
Ford Focus RS '02
Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R '00
My Commodore had the following stats:
HP: 333
Weight: 1743
Tires: N1/N3
Ballast: 5, and to the rear
Finishing order:
Holden Commodore (me) 4.00.27.356
Mits Evolution GSR 4 minutes back
Ford Mustang 5 minutes back
Chevy Camaro 6 minutes back
Mercedes CLK 1 lap, and 50 secs back
Ford Focus 1 lap, and 2 minutes back
This is my fourth 200 point win at Nurburgring.
I have also recently won using an Opel Speedster. I ran the Speedster against the following lineup:
Ford Focus RS
Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe
Chevy Camaro SS
Audi RS 4
Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione
My Opel had the following stats:
HP: 166
Weight: 844kg
Tires: S1/S1
Ballast: 20
Wing: 2/2
During this race in the Opel, I lapped both the Pontiac GTO and the Ford Focus, and ended up winning by over 4 minutes over the 2nd place Chevy Camaro.
For my 3rd win at Nurburgring, I used a red TVR V8S '91. You can check out my lengthy write-up in the "Race Reports" section.
The first time I ran the 4hours of Nurburgring, I used a Nissan Silvia Spec R Aero (described above at post # 310).
Great races!
GTsail
I have found another suitable car to take down five AI competitors at Nurburgring, and earn the coveted 200 points.
I have just finished a very pleasant 4 hours at the 'Ring in my Holden Commodore SS '04!!
I ran my Holden Commodore against the following lineup:
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR '04
Mercedes CLK 55 AMG '00
Chevy Camaro SS '00
Ford Focus RS '02
Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R '00
My Commodore had the following stats:
HP: 333
Weight: 1743
Tires: N1/N3
Ballast: 5, and to the rear
Finishing order:
Holden Commodore (me) 4.00.27.356
Mits Evolution GSR 4 minutes back
Ford Mustang 5 minutes back
Chevy Camaro 6 minutes back
Mercedes CLK 1 lap, and 50 secs back
Ford Focus 1 lap, and 2 minutes back
This is my fourth 200 point win at Nurburgring.
I have also recently won using an Opel Speedster. I ran the Speedster against the following lineup:
Ford Focus RS
Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe
Chevy Camaro SS
Audi RS 4
Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione
My Opel had the following stats:
HP: 166
Weight: 844kg
Tires: S1/S1
Ballast: 20
Wing: 2/2
During this race in the Opel, I lapped both the Pontiac GTO and the Ford Focus, and ended up winning by over 4 minutes over the 2nd place Chevy Camaro.
For my 3rd win at Nurburgring, I used a red TVR V8S '91. You can check out my lengthy write-up in the "Race Reports" section.
The first time I ran the 4hours of Nurburgring, I used a Nissan Silvia Spec R Aero (described above at post # 310).
Great races!
GTsail
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) Australian Car.
) Australian Car.
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Nurburgring 4 hours - for 200 A-Spec points
Setup for Nissan Silvia Spec R Aero '99
http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::8253/Silvia-Spec-R-Aero-(S15)-Dotini2001/
The purpose of this setup is to win 200 A-spec points at the Nurburgring 4 hr endurance race, and do it in 100% clean style: without nitrous, shortcuts or wallriding, or any kind of opponent car contact. Not even minor blocking is needed.
The lineups available for this race are quite variable, and make a big difference in your ability to score 200 points. The best one I have found consists of Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe '04, Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '02, Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione '91, Ford Focus RS '02 and Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II '00. There are others just about as good, but if you are having trouble finding the right one for you, post a comment and I will help you. The lineups depend on what car you are entering and when in the lineup sequence you are entering it. Not everybody's NTSC game will yield the same lineups. Sometimes experimentation is required.
Enter the race on N1/N2 tires, and pit at the end of the 1st lap, switching to N3/N3. You will win easily. Compared to the opposition, the great power and sure-footed handling of this car will make you feel like a hero. This Silvia has an amazingly broad power curve and handles superbly on N tires at the Nurburgring
In my race, I first took the lead on lap 7, then retook it for good on lap 10. I pitted every 4 laps on N3/N3 tires, and filled to 40 at the pitstops. I was up by 2 1/2 minutes over the Skyline at the 4 hour mark. An easy pace of about 8:16 is plenty good enough to win. I indulged in a fast lap 10 seconds under that, but paid for it with slightly increased front tire wear.
My car is equipped with port polishing and engine balancing, and used oil to keep the power stable. Paint color is Lightning Yellow and wheels are Falken 001.
Respectfully submitted,
Dotini
Setup for Nissan Silvia Spec R Aero '99
http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::8253/Silvia-Spec-R-Aero-(S15)-Dotini2001/
The purpose of this setup is to win 200 A-spec points at the Nurburgring 4 hr endurance race, and do it in 100% clean style: without nitrous, shortcuts or wallriding, or any kind of opponent car contact. Not even minor blocking is needed.
The lineups available for this race are quite variable, and make a big difference in your ability to score 200 points. The best one I have found consists of Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe '04, Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '02, Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione '91, Ford Focus RS '02 and Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II '00. There are others just about as good, but if you are having trouble finding the right one for you, post a comment and I will help you. The lineups depend on what car you are entering and when in the lineup sequence you are entering it. Not everybody's NTSC game will yield the same lineups. Sometimes experimentation is required.
Enter the race on N1/N2 tires, and pit at the end of the 1st lap, switching to N3/N3. You will win easily. Compared to the opposition, the great power and sure-footed handling of this car will make you feel like a hero. This Silvia has an amazingly broad power curve and handles superbly on N tires at the Nurburgring
In my race, I first took the lead on lap 7, then retook it for good on lap 10. I pitted every 4 laps on N3/N3 tires, and filled to 40 at the pitstops. I was up by 2 1/2 minutes over the Skyline at the 4 hour mark. An easy pace of about 8:16 is plenty good enough to win. I indulged in a fast lap 10 seconds under that, but paid for it with slightly increased front tire wear.
My car is equipped with port polishing and engine balancing, and used oil to keep the power stable. Paint color is Lightning Yellow and wheels are Falken 001.
Respectfully submitted,
Dotini
GTsail
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Nurburgring 4 hour Endurance - for 200 A-spec points
Looking for something a little harder, I decided to try out some American muscle...so I checked my garage and found a nice used Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z Concept from 1988 that was just waiting for a spin at Nurburgring. I installed N1/N3 tires and some dealer upgrades and a little ballast and set off against my favorite lineup as follows:
Ford Focus RS
Pontiac GTO
Chevy Camaro SS
Audi RS4
Lancia Delta HF Integrale
Note: I have another car in mind for my next run at the 'Ring, so I may try it out against Dotini's lineup. Great work Dotini, BTW:tup:
I pit at the end of lap 1 for N3/N3 tires. When I exit the pits I'm 41 seconds behind the leading Ford Focus.
I have a full write-up that I might post, but here are the highlights:
I catch the 5th place Pontiac GTO during lap 3. I pass the 4th place Ford Focus when it pits at the end of lap 3. I pass the 3rd place Audi when it pits at the end of lap 4. I pass the 2nd place Camaro when it pits at the end of lap 5. I pit at the end of lap 6 and fall back to 3rd place. On lap 8 I re-pass the Camaro for 2nd place. I pass the Audi RS4 when it pits at the end of lap 8 and take over 1st place in the race. From then on, I'm just trying to see how far ahead I can get. I catch the 6th place Pontiac GTO on lap 28 and put him a lap down.
Finishing order after 29 laps:
Chevy Camaro IROC-Z Concept (me) 4:05.32.403
Chevy Camaro SS - 1 minute, 25 seconds back
Lancia Delta HF - 2 minutes, 15 seconds back
Audi RS 4 - 2 minutes, 25 seconds back
Ford Focus RS - 5 minutes, 45 seconds back
Pontiac GTO - 1 lap, and 25 seconds back
The IROC Camaro is great fun to drive. Its a bit of a hand-full, and you must be very careful not to drive on the grass. Its ok to touch the rumble strips, but if you put tires on the grass you almost aways induce a scary
drift that can turn into a spin if you are not ready for it.
My IROC Camaro's stats:
HP: 282
Weight: 1503
Semi-racing exhaust
Racing Chip
Stage 1 NA tune
Tires: N1/N3
Brake controller: 9/10
Racing suspension
Custom transmission, auto slider at 9
Triple plate clutch
Racing flywheel
Aids: 0,0,1
Ltd-slip: 12/33/12
Ballast: 35kg, +7
Give the IROC a try, its fun!
Happy A-spec racing,
GTsail
Looking for something a little harder, I decided to try out some American muscle...so I checked my garage and found a nice used Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z Concept from 1988 that was just waiting for a spin at Nurburgring. I installed N1/N3 tires and some dealer upgrades and a little ballast and set off against my favorite lineup as follows:
Ford Focus RS
Pontiac GTO
Chevy Camaro SS
Audi RS4
Lancia Delta HF Integrale
Note: I have another car in mind for my next run at the 'Ring, so I may try it out against Dotini's lineup. Great work Dotini, BTW:tup:
I pit at the end of lap 1 for N3/N3 tires. When I exit the pits I'm 41 seconds behind the leading Ford Focus.
I have a full write-up that I might post, but here are the highlights:
I catch the 5th place Pontiac GTO during lap 3. I pass the 4th place Ford Focus when it pits at the end of lap 3. I pass the 3rd place Audi when it pits at the end of lap 4. I pass the 2nd place Camaro when it pits at the end of lap 5. I pit at the end of lap 6 and fall back to 3rd place. On lap 8 I re-pass the Camaro for 2nd place. I pass the Audi RS4 when it pits at the end of lap 8 and take over 1st place in the race. From then on, I'm just trying to see how far ahead I can get. I catch the 6th place Pontiac GTO on lap 28 and put him a lap down.
Finishing order after 29 laps:
Chevy Camaro IROC-Z Concept (me) 4:05.32.403
Chevy Camaro SS - 1 minute, 25 seconds back
Lancia Delta HF - 2 minutes, 15 seconds back
Audi RS 4 - 2 minutes, 25 seconds back
Ford Focus RS - 5 minutes, 45 seconds back
Pontiac GTO - 1 lap, and 25 seconds back
The IROC Camaro is great fun to drive. Its a bit of a hand-full, and you must be very careful not to drive on the grass. Its ok to touch the rumble strips, but if you put tires on the grass you almost aways induce a scary
drift that can turn into a spin if you are not ready for it.My IROC Camaro's stats:
HP: 282
Weight: 1503
Semi-racing exhaust
Racing Chip
Stage 1 NA tune
Tires: N1/N3
Brake controller: 9/10
Racing suspension
Custom transmission, auto slider at 9
Triple plate clutch
Racing flywheel
Aids: 0,0,1
Ltd-slip: 12/33/12
Ballast: 35kg, +7
Give the IROC a try, its fun!
Happy A-spec racing,
GTsail
Dotini
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Nurburgring 4 hr endurance - for 200 A-spec points
Following up on -raVer-'s suggestion, I purchased a new Mazda RX-8 Type E, threw on the most basic of tuning, and took it to the Nurburgring to test in the 4hr endurance race. To my great pleasure, I was immediately able to access GTsail's excellent lineup #2, consisting of Camaro SS '00, Lancia Delta HF Integrale, Audi RS 4, Ford Focus and Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe.
Starting on S1's, I was able to assume the lead before the end of the first lap, flying at virtually unchecked speed through all the most treacherous curves. The rear tires showed modest signs of wear at the end of 4 laps, so I pulled in for a new set. When it became quite clear I was going to easily win merely by staying on the S1's, I began to experiment with S2's and S3's. Faster, but only 3 laps on the S2's and 2 laps on the S3's could be had. With a bit more time invested in tuning, I'm sure I could get the S1's and S2's to go another lap. At the end, I finished +3 minutes on the Camaro SS with a time of 4:03' 19.721 over 29 laps.
This RX-8 E is a fine ride which I will tune up and take on more aggressive lineups.
Thanks again to -raVer- and GTsail.👍
Following up on -raVer-'s suggestion, I purchased a new Mazda RX-8 Type E, threw on the most basic of tuning, and took it to the Nurburgring to test in the 4hr endurance race. To my great pleasure, I was immediately able to access GTsail's excellent lineup #2, consisting of Camaro SS '00, Lancia Delta HF Integrale, Audi RS 4, Ford Focus and Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe.
Starting on S1's, I was able to assume the lead before the end of the first lap, flying at virtually unchecked speed through all the most treacherous curves. The rear tires showed modest signs of wear at the end of 4 laps, so I pulled in for a new set. When it became quite clear I was going to easily win merely by staying on the S1's, I began to experiment with S2's and S3's. Faster, but only 3 laps on the S2's and 2 laps on the S3's could be had. With a bit more time invested in tuning, I'm sure I could get the S1's and S2's to go another lap. At the end, I finished +3 minutes on the Camaro SS with a time of 4:03' 19.721 over 29 laps.
This RX-8 E is a fine ride which I will tune up and take on more aggressive lineups.
Thanks again to -raVer- and GTsail.👍
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Everythings a trade-off -raVer-
Some cars would not be awarded 200 points if you ran them with S1 tires (like the Holden Commodore), so in order to use them I've installed N1/N3 tires plus allowed the extra horsepower. While other cars have low enough horsepower that the S1 tires still score the 200 points (your Mazda, for example, and the Opel Speedster that I ran).
I decided to try N1/N3 tires on a few cars since it expands the list of possible cars that can run and win 200 point races at Nurburgring. Using N3 tires does not make the race easy since the tire down-grade from S1's is a significant difference. The extra horsepower offsets this disadvantage. It all depends upon the car you are driving.
I expect that I will give the Mazda RX-8 a try once I complete my current attempt in a Toyota Supra 3.0GT Turbo, thanks for the suggestion.
Respectfully,
GTsail
Dotini
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Nurburgring 4hr endurance race - 200 A-spec points
http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::8261/RX-8-Type-E-(J)-Dotini2001/
The purpose of this setup is to win 200 A-spec points at the Nurburgring 4hr race. This is done easily and cleanly with no need for nitrous, or dubious driving tactics.
The key is to select the correct lineup and tune the car for tire wear.
Lineups at this race in the NTSC game will differ according to your car color. With my Velocity Red RX-8 type E, I found ideal grids at the #2 lineup and again at the #11 lineup. Lineup #2 is the easiest to defeat and consists of Chevrolet Camaro SS, Lancia Delta HF Integral Evoluzione, Audi RS 4, Ford Focus RS and Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe. Start this race with 253 hp, S1 tires and 168 ballast. Take the lead in the first lap, stop every 5 laps for tires and win very comfortably by several minutes.
For a little more challenge, take on lineup #11 consisting of Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR '04, Mercedes CLK 55 AMG, Camaro SS, Ford Focus RS and Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R. Start with 258 hp, S1 tires and 199 ballast.
In either race you may switch to S2 tires at the first stop. The car has been tuned to get 4 great laps out of the S2's and 5 great laps from the S1's.
My car has worn oil for 190 base horsepower on the parts change screen. In my opinion, the racing exhaust sounds the nicest; you may adjust the engine tuning and ballast to enjoy the sound of it and still get 200 points.
Respectfully submitted,
Dotini
http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::8261/RX-8-Type-E-(J)-Dotini2001/
The purpose of this setup is to win 200 A-spec points at the Nurburgring 4hr race. This is done easily and cleanly with no need for nitrous, or dubious driving tactics.
The key is to select the correct lineup and tune the car for tire wear.
Lineups at this race in the NTSC game will differ according to your car color. With my Velocity Red RX-8 type E, I found ideal grids at the #2 lineup and again at the #11 lineup. Lineup #2 is the easiest to defeat and consists of Chevrolet Camaro SS, Lancia Delta HF Integral Evoluzione, Audi RS 4, Ford Focus RS and Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe. Start this race with 253 hp, S1 tires and 168 ballast. Take the lead in the first lap, stop every 5 laps for tires and win very comfortably by several minutes.
For a little more challenge, take on lineup #11 consisting of Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR '04, Mercedes CLK 55 AMG, Camaro SS, Ford Focus RS and Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R. Start with 258 hp, S1 tires and 199 ballast.
In either race you may switch to S2 tires at the first stop. The car has been tuned to get 4 great laps out of the S2's and 5 great laps from the S1's.
My car has worn oil for 190 base horsepower on the parts change screen. In my opinion, the racing exhaust sounds the nicest; you may adjust the engine tuning and ballast to enjoy the sound of it and still get 200 points.
Respectfully submitted,
Dotini
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4hr Nurburgring 200 A-Spec
Lineup
1 Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-spec II `00
2 Chevrolet Camaro SS `00
3 Audi RS 4 `01
4 Clio Renault Sport V6 Phase 2 `03
5 Fiat Coupe Turbo Plus `00
Car: BMW Z4 `03
228HP 1555kg PWR 6.82
Mod:
FC-Tranny
Triple Clutch
Racing Flywheel
Shaft
S1/S1 Tyres
Ballast 190
Pit: 4,7,10,14,17,20,23,26
Best Lap: 8'11.633
Total Time: 4:04'00.530
MoV: 3m20s over the Camaro (more than I had planned)
raVer
Lineup
1 Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-spec II `00
2 Chevrolet Camaro SS `00
3 Audi RS 4 `01
4 Clio Renault Sport V6 Phase 2 `03
5 Fiat Coupe Turbo Plus `00
Car: BMW Z4 `03
228HP 1555kg PWR 6.82
Mod:
FC-Tranny
Triple Clutch
Racing Flywheel
Shaft
S1/S1 Tyres
Ballast 190
Pit: 4,7,10,14,17,20,23,26
Best Lap: 8'11.633
Total Time: 4:04'00.530
MoV: 3m20s over the Camaro (more than I had planned)
raVer
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No I stayed all the way on S1s but I lost at least 10-15seconds on the 4th lap.
and again a
4hr Nurburgring 200 A-Spec
Lineup
1 Lancia DELTA HF Integrale Evolutione `91
2 Clio Renault Sport V6 Phase 2 `03
3 Chevrolet Corvette GRAND SPORT (C4) `96
4 Fiat Coupe Turbo Plus `00
5 Chevrolet Camaro SS `00
Car: Lotus Esprit Turbo HC `87
215HP 1346kg PWR 6.26
Mod:
FC-Tranny
Triple Clutch
Racing Flywheel
S1/S1 Tyres
Ballast 200
Pit: every 3 Laps to keep things interesting
Best Lap: 8'07.580
Total Time: 4:02'30.133
MoV: 1m35s over the Corvette
raVer
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Dotini
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Nicely done, raVer!
Whipping the Corvette GS for 200 points is a good step up from the Skylines, Camaros and Evo's. And doing it with the rather wayward and tire-hungry Lotus Turbo HC makes your effort even more impressive and praiseworthy.👍
I have located this lineup in my NTSC game at #14 for my white Lotus Turbo HC. I also find a similar lineup at #14 for a red Lotus, which consists of Corvette Grand Sport, Jaguar S-Type R, Ford Focus, BMW M3 and FPV Typhoon which I think is also worth 200 but for slightly less ballast. I'll try one of these over the weekend.
Respectfully yours,
Dotini
Whipping the Corvette GS for 200 points is a good step up from the Skylines, Camaros and Evo's. And doing it with the rather wayward and tire-hungry Lotus Turbo HC makes your effort even more impressive and praiseworthy.👍
I have located this lineup in my NTSC game at #14 for my white Lotus Turbo HC. I also find a similar lineup at #14 for a red Lotus, which consists of Corvette Grand Sport, Jaguar S-Type R, Ford Focus, BMW M3 and FPV Typhoon which I think is also worth 200 but for slightly less ballast. I'll try one of these over the weekend.
Respectfully yours,
Dotini
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Thanks Dotini
I think the only competitor will be the Corvette.
The Jag is maybe half a Lap back and the Rest will be lapped.
This time I tried a car with warped chassis , no oil and no rigidy refresh
4hr Nurburgring 200 A-Spec
Lineup
1 Jaguar S-Type R `02
2 Ford MUSTANG SVT Cobra R `00
3 Alfa Romeo 147 GTA `02
4 Fiat Coupe Turbo Plus `00
5 Chevrolet Corvette GRAND SPORT (C4) `96
Car: Acura NSX `91 (used car 49000mls)
241HP 1565kg PWR 6.49
Mod:
FC-Tranny
Triple Clutch
Racing Flywheel
S1/S1 Tyres
Ballast 200
Pit: every 3 Laps
Best Lap: 8'11.740
Total Time: 4:03'08.987
MoV: 52 seconds over the Corvette
Respectfully
raVer
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The Acuras Color was "Sebring Silver Metallic"
I switch thru the Lineups starting from the 1st.If I find a good one, I´ll test and/or take it.
Now we go on racing and have a MONSTERKILL
4hr Nurburgring 200 A-Spec
Lineup
1 Ford FOCUS RS `02
2 Honda NSX Type S `01
3 Opel Speedster Turbo `00
4 Jaguar XKR R-Performance `02
5 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo `00
Car: AMUSE S2000 R1 `04
Color: Monza Red Pearl
259HP 1320kg PWR 5.09
Mod:
FC-Tranny
Triple Clutch
Racing Flywheel
Shaft
S1/S1 Tyres
Ballast 200
Pit: every 5 Laps
Best Lap: 7'39.647
Total Time: 4:03'41.376
MoV: more than 1 Lap over the NSX
I wanted to avoid this car but I couldn´t resist
Respectfully
raVer
Dotini
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Nurburgring 4hr endurance race - 200 A-spec points
Lineup:
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR '04
Chevrolet Corvette GRAND SPORT (C4) '96
Chevrolet Camaro SS '00
Mercedes CLK 55 AMG '00
Ford Focus RS '02
Car:
Lotus Elan S1 '62
Color Carnival Red
156 hp / 819 kg / pwr 5.25
Full setup: http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::6491/Elan-S1-Dotini2001/
I'm very pleased with this setup. It handles quite well and goes full chat at all the scary places, and gets 6 great laps of tire wear on S1's.
Pit: every 6 Laps
Best Lap: 8'06.670
Total Time: 4:00'06.670
MoV: 3'29.799 over the Corvette at T10, lap 29
This was an exceptionally good lineup for taking on both the Corvette and the Evo. It was #8 after a console reset, but the path to it was a bit tricky. Let me know if you need details finding it.
Respectfully,
Dotini
Lineup:
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR '04
Chevrolet Corvette GRAND SPORT (C4) '96
Chevrolet Camaro SS '00
Mercedes CLK 55 AMG '00
Ford Focus RS '02
Car:
Lotus Elan S1 '62
Color Carnival Red
156 hp / 819 kg / pwr 5.25
Full setup: http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::6491/Elan-S1-Dotini2001/
I'm very pleased with this setup. It handles quite well and goes full chat at all the scary places, and gets 6 great laps of tire wear on S1's.
Pit: every 6 Laps
Best Lap: 8'06.670
Total Time: 4:00'06.670
MoV: 3'29.799 over the Corvette at T10, lap 29
This was an exceptionally good lineup for taking on both the Corvette and the Evo. It was #8 after a console reset, but the path to it was a bit tricky. Let me know if you need details finding it.
Respectfully,
Dotini
Dotini
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raVer, thanks for that thumbs up. Since I'm 100% complete and have 111,793 A-spec points, I'm doing the most fun and interesting GT4 racing there is: running the 'Ring on sports tires. I do this because one day I'd like to actually drive the real live 'Ring and I'd already know where the road goes. Another reason is to practice racing prior to my real world kart racing season which starts next weekend. Yet another reason is that my GT4 friends like you and GTsail have inspired me through your noble efforts. Oh, and it helps to be retired with loads of free time
Respectfully yours,
Dotini
Respectfully yours,
Dotini
Now that my sister is distracted with a Wii game instead 
, I've been able to embark upon my final 24-hour race at Nurburgring. My choice of vehicle is unusual: the BMW M5 on S1 tires, against the A4, M3, Falken, Calibra, and Silvia. I'm now an hour and a half into the race, ahead of the A4 by a minute and a half, which is more than I expected. My fastest lap so far is 7'09.0, but I do have to pit every three laps.
The fact that I'm using sports tires and am in a heavy car allows for quite a lot of power, which creates some pronounced disparities in speed in certain sections of the track when combined with the AI's perplexing half-throttle driving in some areas. Obviously, the long straight is an opportunity to blow by competitors, and so is the uphill climb from Bergwerk, but I have to crawl behind the AI after Pfugplatz and after Pflanzgarten because they weave from side to side, and I'm actually slower than they are between T7 and T8 because it's almost all corners, and they have both racing tires and downforce. I've already failed to accomplish each of the three categories of cleanliness: I brushed the guardrail entering the pits, I've inadvertently cut a couple of corners with four wheels on the grass, and I've made contact with the Silvia when it cut in on me between Pfugplatz and Aremburg, where I should have known better than to pass.
Considering the large gap that I've opened already - at this rate, I would finish three and a half laps ahead of the touring cars - I may try for a "non-grass" race from this point forward, at least until I become tired of it or start losing time as a result of chassis bending and power loss.
, I've been able to embark upon my final 24-hour race at Nurburgring. My choice of vehicle is unusual: the BMW M5 on S1 tires, against the A4, M3, Falken, Calibra, and Silvia. I'm now an hour and a half into the race, ahead of the A4 by a minute and a half, which is more than I expected. My fastest lap so far is 7'09.0, but I do have to pit every three laps.The fact that I'm using sports tires and am in a heavy car allows for quite a lot of power, which creates some pronounced disparities in speed in certain sections of the track when combined with the AI's perplexing half-throttle driving in some areas. Obviously, the long straight is an opportunity to blow by competitors, and so is the uphill climb from Bergwerk, but I have to crawl behind the AI after Pfugplatz and after Pflanzgarten because they weave from side to side, and I'm actually slower than they are between T7 and T8 because it's almost all corners, and they have both racing tires and downforce. I've already failed to accomplish each of the three categories of cleanliness: I brushed the guardrail entering the pits, I've inadvertently cut a couple of corners with four wheels on the grass, and I've made contact with the Silvia when it cut in on me between Pfugplatz and Aremburg, where I should have known better than to pass.
Considering the large gap that I've opened already - at this rate, I would finish three and a half laps ahead of the touring cars - I may try for a "non-grass" race from this point forward, at least until I become tired of it or start losing time as a result of chassis bending and power loss.
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