- 3,754
- Germany
- TRL_IMMORTAL
Extreme F1 World Championship Season1 Sign up Now!!/Win big prizes!!
- Thread starter IMMORTALPILOT
- 506 comments
- 30,439 views
- 341
- Sheffield, UK
- TRL_jb
- xbox = ****box
Good idea big, but for the original start before we restarted I did see rich knock pablo off on corner 2! maybe pablo's concerned about this also thats why hes not taking this so lightly.
- 3,754
- Germany
- TRL_IMMORTAL
- 617
This is intended to prejudice the case against a driver in favour of a teammate, and the veracity of it cannot be determined.
Last edited:
- 372
- Denmark
- TRL_CBASTJAN
Yea it has tons of different gaming options, and three different gaming mods.
I really lilke it, even though I'm not getting much faster lap times, but it is a lot easier to feel the maximum grip and therefore easier to get earlier on the pedal
Last edited:
- 341
- Sheffield, UK
- TRL_jb
- xbox = ****box
- 617
Playing politics... the only facts that need to be considered by the race steward are in the replay of the official race.
- 1,083
- England
- skyline_catt1683
I
To be quite honest the first race is of no importance as we had a random in a f10 who caused chaos at the first corner hitting and bumping everyone and taking several racers out and it will have no bearing on bigs verdict as he is completely impartial to the incident in question and to be fair on the 4 laps I was in the race the whole field was within 10 seconds of each other taking in to account the draft effect of this track something is bound to happen in a braking zone at those speeds with close racing
- 3,754
- Germany
- TRL_IMMORTAL
- 3,754
- Germany
- TRL_IMMORTAL
- 672
- Houston, Tx
- BigTex097
- SCSTexan
After looking over the incident a few times I bring you evidence.
picture 1:
This picture shows what happened before the accident. When the total time was about 1:56.190 Immortal (Left) was already braking, and slowed down to about 85 mph, Mustard (right) however was at about 89 mph at this point was still on the accelerator.
Picture 2:
At this point (TT at about 1:56.374) Mustard made contact with Immortal. At this moment, Mustard was halfway on the throttle, and fell to 84 mph when making contact. Immortal went up to 88 mph even though he was still braking.
Picture 3:
At around 1:56.707 in TT, Immortal starts to accelerate from 75 to 86 mph. I'm not sure what happened here, if Immortal was trying to recover his ground, or tries to accelerate to exit out.
Picture 4:
About 1:57.442, Immortal goes off at 60 mph. It took a little more than a second for this accident to happen from start to finish.
I say that Mustard 15 second penalty should stand as he did knock Immortal off track, and he didn't wait. I find it kinda funny that mustard is complaining about his 15 sec., penalty and he has a 15+ sec. gap over the 4th place Artmann
picture 1:
This picture shows what happened before the accident. When the total time was about 1:56.190 Immortal (Left) was already braking, and slowed down to about 85 mph, Mustard (right) however was at about 89 mph at this point was still on the accelerator.
Picture 2:
At this point (TT at about 1:56.374) Mustard made contact with Immortal. At this moment, Mustard was halfway on the throttle, and fell to 84 mph when making contact. Immortal went up to 88 mph even though he was still braking.
Picture 3:
At around 1:56.707 in TT, Immortal starts to accelerate from 75 to 86 mph. I'm not sure what happened here, if Immortal was trying to recover his ground, or tries to accelerate to exit out.
Picture 4:
About 1:57.442, Immortal goes off at 60 mph. It took a little more than a second for this accident to happen from start to finish.
I say that Mustard 15 second penalty should stand as he did knock Immortal off track, and he didn't wait. I find it kinda funny that mustard is complaining about his 15 sec., penalty and he has a 15+ sec. gap over the 4th place Artmann
- 3,033
Yes I did get on throttle to early, yes the pass completely and utterly caught me by surprise, I didn't know he had dived under me and so I started to accelerate through the corner like I would on any other lap. He literally "flashed" in front of my car and your making me look like I just drove into the corner and deliberately tried to crash him.
Immortal bombed past me and he impacted my front right, which should have sent him hooking left and head on into the wall but due to the super crappy collision physics in GT5 he bumped ahead like a bumper car rear ending.
Sure If had braked longer I would have "crossed over" and probably either re-passed him or easily stayed right behind him so I did make a mistake, but his reckless desperate pass combined with blaming it all on me and taking no blame whatsoever for himself was ridiculous and it has severed the admiration I once had for him.
Immortal bombed past me and he impacted my front right, which should have sent him hooking left and head on into the wall but due to the super crappy collision physics in GT5 he bumped ahead like a bumper car rear ending.
Sure If had braked longer I would have "crossed over" and probably either re-passed him or easily stayed right behind him so I did make a mistake, but his reckless desperate pass combined with blaming it all on me and taking no blame whatsoever for himself was ridiculous and it has severed the admiration I once had for him.
This picture shows what happened before the accident.
Picture 2:
Last edited:
- 617
The race steward has spoken.
I think that the decision is very harsh, especially since it is not about the contact (that had already been established) - it is about the positioning of the cars before the contact, if Mustard was already accelerating it is because he saw the clear apex and went for it, for another driver to then dive inside when it is very likely the other car has already done his braking and is ready to accelerate (on a corner where overtaking seldom happens) is harsh.
One thing I would agree with, if such racing incidents occur then drivers should do the gentlemanly thing and at least slow down - but I've been the victim of a few shunts and obvious bumping for advantage and this seldom happens.
It doesn't have to be an off-track excursion that brings about this gentlemanly act, but if one overtakes by making use of contact advantage (like bumping someone gently off the racing line a corner or two before) then one should lift off and let the other person take the place back.
I normally brake earlier than the car in front into corners and I will continue to do so, but with this decision as it stands, it gives everyone a charter to dive on the inside and **** the consequences because if the guy turning in touches you, he will be penalized.
I think that the decision is very harsh, especially since it is not about the contact (that had already been established) - it is about the positioning of the cars before the contact, if Mustard was already accelerating it is because he saw the clear apex and went for it, for another driver to then dive inside when it is very likely the other car has already done his braking and is ready to accelerate (on a corner where overtaking seldom happens) is harsh.
One thing I would agree with, if such racing incidents occur then drivers should do the gentlemanly thing and at least slow down - but I've been the victim of a few shunts and obvious bumping for advantage and this seldom happens.
It doesn't have to be an off-track excursion that brings about this gentlemanly act, but if one overtakes by making use of contact advantage (like bumping someone gently off the racing line a corner or two before) then one should lift off and let the other person take the place back.
I normally brake earlier than the car in front into corners and I will continue to do so, but with this decision as it stands, it gives everyone a charter to dive on the inside and **** the consequences because if the guy turning in touches you, he will be penalized.
Last edited:
- 3,754
- Germany
- TRL_IMMORTAL
For me its all like big have say. Also like arty say when one other push a other out its better to wait for him.
And your 15 sec penalty is like no penalty because you still stay p3
And your 15 sec penalty is like no penalty because you still stay p3
- 617
N GP/F 5-Lap Practice Session - Full Tyrewear and Fuel Deletion
I was expecting to be fairly good around this track, considering my performances at Spa, Sukuza and Cape Ring in the Formula GT Car and also because I compete in GT500 and Ferrari F1s comfortably here.
However, the track is trickier in this car than I had expected and I really struggled. Every single brake and acceleration zone I felt the car was on the edge of grip - indeed - I went over the edge a few times.
I only managed a 1:30.519 compared to the lap record 1:27.8 that Vettel set last season.
By Thursday's Official Practice, I hope to be driving consistently in the 1:33s and having a fastest lap of 1:30.0
For Sunday's Official Race, my aim is to drive consistently in the 1:32s and have a fastest lap of 1:29.5.
I am running a 40 minutes practice session tonight, on the agenda are different tyre compound combinations and brake bias settings.
I was expecting to be fairly good around this track, considering my performances at Spa, Sukuza and Cape Ring in the Formula GT Car and also because I compete in GT500 and Ferrari F1s comfortably here.
However, the track is trickier in this car than I had expected and I really struggled. Every single brake and acceleration zone I felt the car was on the edge of grip - indeed - I went over the edge a few times.
I only managed a 1:30.519 compared to the lap record 1:27.8 that Vettel set last season.
By Thursday's Official Practice, I hope to be driving consistently in the 1:33s and having a fastest lap of 1:30.0
For Sunday's Official Race, my aim is to drive consistently in the 1:32s and have a fastest lap of 1:29.5.
I am running a 40 minutes practice session tonight, on the agenda are different tyre compound combinations and brake bias settings.
- 1,083
- England
- skyline_catt1683
It's weird in gt5 I can blitz this track and all variations in all road cars gt500,gt300 even Le Mans cars arty seen me do this many times in our friend lobby's but put me in a f1 or fgt on gp/f and I'm like a learner playing for first time it's one of my best tracks but I'm not looking forward to it in the fgt
- 3,754
- Germany
- TRL_IMMORTAL
10th World Championship Race Nürburgring GP/F 45 Laps
24.11.2013
20:30 UTC - Free Practice (optional)
21:30 UTC - Qualifying (if you miss the end of qualifying you can start from the back)
22:00 UTC - Actual Race
24.11.2013
20:30 UTC - Free Practice (optional)
21:30 UTC - Qualifying (if you miss the end of qualifying you can start from the back)
22:00 UTC - Actual Race
- 3,033
I can check some of these incidents this week, It's probably better that it stays private rather than public as I was reading the ugly complaining I did last week and how terrible it looks, best not to be at each other's throats in the thread.
Well Arty, that was a tough gift to give you, especially after my ******* car lost all grip and slid out when I backed off to try and wait for you. I swear that FGT is most stable when on the limit through any corner, if you drive slower your more likely to crash rather than less like any reasonable vehicle in existence. Still almost caught artmann on the last lap if it wasn't for immortal's stationary car I think I could have reeled him in but its my fault for screwing it up anyways.
Well Arty, that was a tough gift to give you, especially after my ******* car lost all grip and slid out when I backed off to try and wait for you. I swear that FGT is most stable when on the limit through any corner, if you drive slower your more likely to crash rather than less like any reasonable vehicle in existence. Still almost caught artmann on the last lap if it wasn't for immortal's stationary car I think I could have reeled him in but its my fault for screwing it up anyways.
- 3,754
- Germany
- TRL_IMMORTAL
Guys cb have finish p3 he have got DC after he have finish.
There was today many things in the race pls big and Rich check it say what you think about it.
- 341
- Sheffield, UK
- TRL_jb
- xbox = ****box
Was very tough today, besides all the crap that went down! the fgt is one of my least favourite race cars to drive so im happy with the way i performed today. Im happy for anyone to look at replay and tell me what they think. if anyone takes there time to look at replay and manage to see some of the things ive seen im sure you'll come to the same conclusion i have about cbastjan!
- 617
Background - GP / F
In Thursday's 5-lap practice race, I beat Kimi (CB) to the second step on the podium, and in the Practice Race I also managed a convincing P2 as well, behind Vettel.
On the Race Day 5-lap practice race, I overtook Webber (JB) and beat home favourite Vettel (Immortal) to the chequered flag to record another practice race victory.
Race Report - GP / F
So my expectations for the race were very high, and with a tactical qualifying (P4) I had the inside line into the first corner that I fully intended to exploit. The race started with both Kimi and Vettel duking it out, and I managed to seize the apex but before I could put down the power and make P2 my own, Kimi didn't realise I was at the apex, and his side-pod hit mine and I spun to the back of the pack. (Racing Incident - No Further Action)
Undaunted, I fought and managed to overtake my championship rival Rosberg (Big) but at the start of the second lap, Lewis had spun and did not allow on coming traffic to pass cleanly and with the speed differential I hit him (Racing Incident - No Further Action) - Rosberg over took me and we had a mighty battle that slowed me down and ruined my chances for a podium.
Frustrated, after Rosberg backed me into Lewis - allowing him to overtake, I pit 3 laps early and this forced Monster Energy to pit one of their drivers to cover me by pitting the next lap. Lewis came out just in front of me and my tactic looked ruined as I was held up again and after making a further mistake out of frustration I let Lewis go because my tyres were getting wrecked in the turbulent air, I turned down the engine mode and saved tyres, hoping my pit-stop strategy would pay dividends.
Two laps later, the pit strategy leapt me over Rosberg and then it was just a patient wait for the last stint.
Lewis pit lap at the end of lap 30, and I followed my teammate and pit at the start of lap 34. Those laps of fresher tyres meant, that although Lewis came out five or six seconds in front of me, I had the advantage.
Edging ever closer to Lewis, and putting in consistently fast times (1.29s included) I receive a message over the pit-radio 'Multi-2-1' and that show of faith by the team, along with the goodwill of Alonso, was met with a spirited fight that ultimately led me to have a last lap battle with Lewis, very clean, very fair, and I got my revenge for Brazil 2009!!!!
In Thursday's 5-lap practice race, I beat Kimi (CB) to the second step on the podium, and in the Practice Race I also managed a convincing P2 as well, behind Vettel.
On the Race Day 5-lap practice race, I overtook Webber (JB) and beat home favourite Vettel (Immortal) to the chequered flag to record another practice race victory.
Race Report - GP / F
So my expectations for the race were very high, and with a tactical qualifying (P4) I had the inside line into the first corner that I fully intended to exploit. The race started with both Kimi and Vettel duking it out, and I managed to seize the apex but before I could put down the power and make P2 my own, Kimi didn't realise I was at the apex, and his side-pod hit mine and I spun to the back of the pack. (Racing Incident - No Further Action)
Undaunted, I fought and managed to overtake my championship rival Rosberg (Big) but at the start of the second lap, Lewis had spun and did not allow on coming traffic to pass cleanly and with the speed differential I hit him (Racing Incident - No Further Action) - Rosberg over took me and we had a mighty battle that slowed me down and ruined my chances for a podium.
Frustrated, after Rosberg backed me into Lewis - allowing him to overtake, I pit 3 laps early and this forced Monster Energy to pit one of their drivers to cover me by pitting the next lap. Lewis came out just in front of me and my tactic looked ruined as I was held up again and after making a further mistake out of frustration I let Lewis go because my tyres were getting wrecked in the turbulent air, I turned down the engine mode and saved tyres, hoping my pit-stop strategy would pay dividends.
Two laps later, the pit strategy leapt me over Rosberg and then it was just a patient wait for the last stint.
Lewis pit lap at the end of lap 30, and I followed my teammate and pit at the start of lap 34. Those laps of fresher tyres meant, that although Lewis came out five or six seconds in front of me, I had the advantage.
Edging ever closer to Lewis, and putting in consistently fast times (1.29s included) I receive a message over the pit-radio 'Multi-2-1' and that show of faith by the team, along with the goodwill of Alonso, was met with a spirited fight that ultimately led me to have a last lap battle with Lewis, very clean, very fair, and I got my revenge for Brazil 2009!!!!
Last edited:
- 617
I think you and Kimi (CB) are very similar, to be fair - you are both very quick but sometimes you both seem not respect your opponents, or forget the width of your cars, or fail to brake earlier when you're behind someone.
In my close battle with Rosberg (Big) I don't think we touched. In a very tight last lap with Lewis (Artmann) we both gave each other room, and didn't run each other off the track (though it was tempting lol)
It would be good to say what laps the incidents you refer to happened too. I only saw the opening two laps of your duel with Kimi - after the chicane at the end of lap one, you bumped him from behind (you could argue he didn't give you space but he didn't have to there) and into the first corner of lap 2. I don't know what occurred after that - but if you did it by mistake once, personally I'd expect you to be cautious about doing it again.
Last season, Kimi had many of incidents where he would bump people and swear he didn't know he did it (he had a vendetta against my former team, Team Artemis lol) but he has definitely improved a great deal.
I just hope you two don't turn this into something bigger than it should be - just raid the beer tent that Team Artemis laid post-race... Team didn't show up so there is still plenty to go around!
- 372
- Denmark
- TRL_CBASTJAN
Everyone with a little race experience know that you cannot blame the guy in front for being dirty when he is the one who is getting punched off the track by someone comming from behind.
And cutting the chicane when someone is getting close to you, is simply cheating.
I've been here in three seasons, and I have never received a penalty for dirty driving.
And know 3 weeks a row the same guy blames me for driving dirty.
And cutting the chicane when someone is getting close to you, is simply cheating.
I've been here in three seasons, and I have never received a penalty for dirty driving.
And know 3 weeks a row the same guy blames me for driving dirty.
- 341
- Sheffield, UK
- TRL_jb
- xbox = ****box
everyone check cbasjans lap 29 and then you will realise who the chicane cutter is, cb i honestly thinl you crazy in your mind your very strange to not realise certain thing, im not perfect on the track but I will say sorry or admit my mistakes where as you just denigh they have ever happened. anyway Im not really in having a friendship with you after these incidentds so we'll just keep it nice and proffesional! first main incident was lap 3 last corner. I cant remember the other lap need to go back and get inf arty.
- 372
- Denmark
- TRL_CBASTJAN
Yes I did fly through the chicane in one off the laps. My PC lagged a lot during the last part of the race, which also caused me a DC. I think it is very poor even for you, to make people look at my crash, which did not cause any trouble for anybody else than myself.
I Don't need to call you names.
But I know if there's an incident and the guy comming from behind is causing it 3 times in a race, it is his fault.
The same thing happened at madrid you were making me spin (again you were p3 and I was p2, therefore you were the one comming from behind) and blaming me for making contact.
It is not possible to go reverse in a F1 with 200km/h.
You have probably been p2 all year round till I joined. If you cant accept someone beating you in a race, then you might find something else to do.
The last three races I have been in it has been more bad experience than good memory with you.
Many hatred private messages to me from you that's not allright.
I join this race to have a good time, not joining to let someone try to take me off the track so he can keep his p2. And then blaming me for driving dirty.
You keep telling me I drive dirty, But COME ON dude, everytime There's a crash, You are the guy comming from behind
I Don't need to call you names.
But I know if there's an incident and the guy comming from behind is causing it 3 times in a race, it is his fault.
The same thing happened at madrid you were making me spin (again you were p3 and I was p2, therefore you were the one comming from behind) and blaming me for making contact.
It is not possible to go reverse in a F1 with 200km/h.
You have probably been p2 all year round till I joined. If you cant accept someone beating you in a race, then you might find something else to do.
The last three races I have been in it has been more bad experience than good memory with you.
Many hatred private messages to me from you that's not allright.
I join this race to have a good time, not joining to let someone try to take me off the track so he can keep his p2. And then blaming me for driving dirty.
You keep telling me I drive dirty, But COME ON dude, everytime There's a crash, You are the guy comming from behind
Last edited:
Similar threads
