F.I.T.T WSR/Senna F3 Challenge

[DolHaus]

Mid 22

And I autocrossed for 9 years

Edit: yep mid 22s. Maybe low 22s

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Madness!

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Madness!

No, pure insanity!

I know these guys are fast, but really? Am I that slow to be 2.5 seconds behind? @OdeFinn is smooth and fast as well, likely going to see some seriously insane times come in. And how does @Pete05 use buttons and go so fast ? Has he been drug tested yet?

 

[OdeFinn]

Okey starting to type my notes..

There was small 80's vibes on the air while driving, some cars went on 80's one hit wonder TT-tune section, with this remarks:

And this:


And then there was some cars what I could use on online races without losing my name/face due collisions and those tunes give something else from 80's, like this:


@Bowtie-muscle I might lap constant laps, but I'm not fast on results here, there might be that similar treatment to all tunes, driving on race pace and bit above. Bit hating this scoring system, coz there is those one lap wonder times around, inch side and dead driver way driven. My laps are driven realistic way, and driver leaves alive from track

My DC points will be mostly coming from idea "would I like to drive this one hour on online against other live persons and leave race with unwrecked car and without losing my name as a clean driver", so it consist is car capable of taking other lines than optimal, handling well when small mistakes happen etc, overall car handling and balance.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Okey starting to type my notes..

There was small 80's vibes on the air while driving, some cars went on 80's one hit wonder TT-tune section, with this remarks:

And this:


And then there was some cars what I could use on online races without losing my name/face due collisions and those tunes give something else from 80's, like this:


@Bowtie-muscle I might lap constant laps, but I'm not fast on results here, there might be that similar treatment to all tunes, driving on race pace and bit above. Bit hating this scoring system, coz there is those one lap wonder times around, inch side and dead driver way driven. My laps are driven realistic way, and driver leaves alive from track

My DC points will be mostly coming from idea "would I like to drive this one hour on online against other live persons and leave race with unwrecked car and without losing my name as a clean driver", so it consist is car capable of taking other lines than optimal, handling well when small mistakes happen etc, overall car handling and balance.

Well I know you are smooth, and still faster than I am.

Looking forward to what you think of these tunes.👍

 

[Soren Jacquet]

Okey starting to type my notes..

There was small 80's vibes on the air while driving, some cars went on 80's one hit wonder TT-tune section, with this remarks:

And this:


And then there was some cars what I could use on online races without losing my name/face due collisions and those tunes give something else from 80's, like this:


@Bowtie-muscle I might lap constant laps, but I'm not fast on results here, there might be that similar treatment to all tunes, driving on race pace and bit above. Bit hating this scoring system, coz there is those one lap wonder times around, inch side and dead driver way driven. My laps are driven realistic way, and driver leaves alive from track

My DC points will be mostly coming from idea "would I like to drive this one hour on online against other live persons and leave race with unwrecked car and without losing my name as a clean driver", so it consist is car capable of taking other lines than optimal, handling well when small mistakes happen etc, overall car handling and balance.

nice music

 

[Otaliema]

Just got done with two more cars. One could have been a serious contender but one setting held it back a lot. More then 2 seconds back...


Edit added video of test lap.

 

[Soren Jacquet]

I want more WSR tunes hehehe .....

 

[DolHaus]

Just got done with two more cars. One could have been a serious contender but one setting held it back a lot. More then 2 seconds back...


Edit added video of test lap.

Turned in a bit early on turn 1, ran super deep on 2, 4-5-6 were spot on but you ran deep on 7 and missed the apex, 8 seemed a little slow but the line looked fine. 👍 Keep pushing

 

[Pete05]

Turned in a bit early on turn 1, ran super deep on 2, 4-5-6 were spot on but you ran deep on 7 and missed the apex, 8 seemed a little slow but the line looked fine. 👍 Keep pushing

So that would be 👍

 

[Otaliema]

Turned in a bit early on turn 1, ran super deep on 2, 4-5-6 were spot on but you ran deep on 7 and missed the apex, 8 seemed a little slow but the line looked fine. 👍 Keep pushing

Was just theory testing a tune, wasn't trying for a perfect lap 👍 the fact it was that sloppy and was two seconds faster shows how much camber kills cars in GT6 right now.

 

[shaunm80]

Was just theory testing a tune, wasn't trying for a perfect lap 👍 the fact it was that sloppy and was two seconds faster shows how much camber kills cars in GT6 right now.

Oh.. no... I see a debate on camber coming along. I will go and hide behind the nearest stone till this is all over

 

[Otaliema]

Oh.. no... I see a debate on camber coming along. I will go and hide behind the nearest stone till this is all over

Yep.
*grabs firemen suit and puts it on*
Camber on some cars in small amounts can help with stability and mid corner rotation. But at the cost of entry and/or exit grip and acceleration grip so overall a loss in lap time for the car.

 

[DolHaus]

So that would be 👍

If you'd had a camera on my face then that would have been pretty much how it'd gone

Was just theory testing a tune, wasn't trying for a perfect lap 👍 the fact it was that sloppy and was two seconds faster shows how much camber kills cars in GT6 right now.

Fair enough, meant no harm 👍
I find small amounts of camber useful for taking the edge off cars (try mine at 0.0 ) and adjusting the balance where you need certain settings for high speed corners but those settings cause twitchyness in slow speed sections. Also if you've got an otherwise grippy car that can't help but overwhelm the tyres on slow corner exit a small bit of rear camber makes it easier to transition between wheel spin and hook up, you get a predictable slide rather than a sudden twitch. Apart from that it can be a little bit of a false reward, the car will feel great but just loses speed compared to 0.0 in 95% of circumstances

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Oh.. no... I see a debate on camber coming along. I will go and hide behind the nearest stone till this is all over

Save room for me, better be a big stone as others may want to join us

 

[shaunm80]

Save room for me, better be a big stone as others may want to join us

The grand canyon might be big enough for a few of us to hide in. Lots of big stones there.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

The grand canyon might be big enough for a few of us to hide in. Lots of big stones there.

Or stone henge

 

[DolHaus]

The grand canyon might be big enough for a few of us to hide in. Lots of big stones there.

How about Dartmoor, that place is basically made of big rocks

 

[shaunm80]

Or stone henge

For some reason, people get funny when you stand too close to the stones at this site. I have no idea why, its only stones on top of stones in a circle. Very bizarre really.

 

[Otaliema]

Or stone henge

First was Straw henge, then wood henge, then Stone henge.
The greatest henge of them all.
Nobody knows what the 🤬 a henge is.

 

[shaunm80]

How about Dartmoor, that place is basically made of big rocks

True, big rocks on Dartmoor but its in the middle of nowhere and it is quite close to where the Beast of Bodmin lives too.

 

[Pete05]

If you'd had a camera on my face then that would have been pretty much how it'd gone


Fair enough, meant no harm 👍
I find small amounts of camber useful for taking the edge off cars (try mine at 0.0 ) and adjusting the balance where you need certain settings for high speed corners but those settings cause twitchyness in slow speed sections. Also if you've got an otherwise grippy car that can't help but overwhelm the tyres on slow corner exit a small bit of rear camber makes it easier to transition between wheel spin and hook up, you get a predictable slide rather than a sudden twitch. Apart from that it can be a little bit of a false reward, the car will feel great but just loses speed compared to 0.0 in 95% of circumstances

What you haven't found the camera yet?

You guys can use Stonehenge, Dartmoor or the Grand Canyon. I'm using Ayers Rock. That's huge!

 

[DolHaus]

True, big rocks on Dartmoor but its in the middle of nowhere and it is quite close to where the Beast of Bodmin lives too.

Haven't heard anything about the beast of bodmin in a long time but the hairy hand of cadover bridge is a constant threat

 

[shaunm80]

Haven't heard anything about the beast of bodmin in a long time but the hairy hand of cadover bridge is a constant threat

This I haven't heard of. What on earth is the hairy hand of cadover bridge? it sort of sounds like a very bad adult movie.

 

[shaunm80]

What you haven't found the camera yet?

You guys can use Stonehenge, Dartmoor or the Grand Canyon. I'm using Ayers Rock. That's huge!

I would rather hide in Kings Canyon if I'm being honest. There are more caves around that part of the outback and a few waterfalls for the eyes.

 

[Motor City Hami]

If you'd had a camera on my face then that would have been pretty much how it'd gone


Fair enough, meant no harm 👍
I find small amounts of camber useful for taking the edge off cars (try mine at 0.0 ) and adjusting the balance where you need certain settings for high speed corners but those settings cause twitchyness in slow speed sections. Also if you've got an otherwise grippy car that can't help but overwhelm the tyres on slow corner exit a small bit of rear camber makes it easier to transition between wheel spin and hook up, you get a predictable slide rather than a sudden twitch. Apart from that it can be a little bit of a false reward, the car will feel great but just loses speed compared to 0.0 in 95% of circumstances

I highly doubt that your tune is the one he tested with zero camber. Going from 0.1 to zero isn't going to make a two second difference. If you truly supported that camber works in GT6, you would be willing to venture much deeper into that pool.

There is one tune posted with camber at 3.5 and another tune with camber from someone who has been pretty vocal on the forums, even vocal enough to say that zero camber doesn't often finish high in FITT events. I would guess that one of these tunes were tried with zero camber.

 

[Otaliema]

There is one tune posted with camber at 3.5 and another tune with camber from someone who has been pretty vocal on the forums, even vocal enough to say that zero camber doesn't often finish high in FITT events. I would guess that one of these tunes were tried with zero camber.

That's is a very solid branch you're standing on there. The tuner in question knows about this test and is grateful for the extra laps I did in the car.
I suspect we will see them rise in the next challenge. 👍

 

[DolHaus]

What you haven't found the camera yet?

You guys can use Stonehenge, Dartmoor or the Grand Canyon. I'm using Ayers Rock. That's huge!

Yeah.... you win the big rock contest

This I haven't heard of. What on earth is the hairy hand of cadover bridge? it sort of sounds like a very bad adult movie.

http://www.legendarydartmoor.co.uk/hairy_hands.htm

(I live in a very strange place )

I highly doubt that your tune is the one he tested with zero camber. Going from 0.1 to zero isn't going to make a two second difference. If you truly supported that camber works in GT6, you would be willing to venture much deeper into that pool.

There is one tune posted with camber at 3.5 and another tune with camber from someone who has been pretty vocal on the forums, even vocal enough to say that zero camber doesn't often finish high in FITT events. I would guess that one of these tunes were tried with zero camber.

Yeah I know its not mine, the point was to merely illustrate how I use it in tuning

Lets not go starting fires, the same argument gets boring after the 5th or 6th time

 

[Motor City Hami]

Yeah I know its not mine, the point was to merely illustrate how I use it in tuning

Lets not go starting fires, the same argument gets boring after the 5th or 6th time

I am tuning the Bentley LMP car right now and am using a fairly large amount of front camber, so I don't always use zero. Adding camber did increase turn in and helped calm exit oversteer.

 

[Soren Jacquet]

 

[MrGrado]

Was just theory testing a tune, wasn't trying for a perfect lap 👍 the fact it was that sloppy and was two seconds faster shows how much camber kills cars in GT6 right now.

Or it just shows you are inconsistent at driving. I'm going to assume your talking about the tune with 3.5 degrees of camber. I'm around 1.2 seconds away from the top time with that tune, so there is at max 1.2 seconds lost from having high camber as far as I'm concerned... The tune sticks to the road like glue, it just needs to be a little more nimble, which could be achieved with toe or lowering camber or a little of both. It's still faster than another tune with 0 camber so...