Famine's Adjusted Constructors' ChampionshipFormula 1

[niky]

Please submit this idea to magazines, even if you only win a free hat for best letter of the week. More people deserve to know how a great constructors championship should be done.

A hat is an insult.

An iPad with a year's subscription to the official F1 app would be more worth the work Famine's put in here...

 

[Liquid]

Another excellent result for McLaren, despite their actual in-race problems. Lotus creeping up nicely too.

 

[Famine]

After Monaco
1. Red Bull - 102pt (+25)
2. McLaren - 92pt (+12)
3. Force India - 66pt (+15)
4. Ferrari - 59pt (+18)
5. Lotus-Renault - 58pt (DNF)
6. Toro Rosso - 49pt (DNF)
7. Sauber - 35pt (DNF)
8. Williams - 27pt (DNF)
9. Mercedes - 24pt (DNF)
10. Caterham - 16pt (DNF)
11. Marussia - 14pt (DNF)
12. Hispania - 3pt (DNF)

Quite the race of attrition as only three teams got both cars over the finish line and only four got both cars classified - Button's retirement 8 laps from the end sees him as the last classified finisher and proves important in keeping McLaren in touch with Red Bull. Those four teams show how important reliability is in the FACC by moving up to occupy the top four spots.

Since no-one else scores, it's as you were everywhere else.

 

[Famine]

After Canada
1. Red Bull - 127pt (+25)
2. McLaren - 98pt (+6)
3. Lotus-Renault - 76pt (+18)
4. Force India - 76pt (+10)
5. Ferrari - 71pt (+12)
6. Toro Rosso - 57pt (+8)
7. Sauber - 50pt (+15)
8. Williams - 31pt (+4)
9. Mercedes - 24pt (DNF)
10. Caterham - 18pt (+2)
11. Marussia - 14pt (DNF)
12. Hispania - 3pt (DNF)

Perennial non-finishers Hispania, Marussia and Mercedes all fail once again to bring both cars home and the back five are now all starting to lose touch with the rest of the grid. Red Bull, Lotus, Sauber and Ferrari all return both cars in the top 10 and make big strides - McLaren's mixed fortunes showing exactly what this championship is made for.

 

[Famine]

After Europe
1. Red Bull - 127pt (DNF)
2. McLaren - 104pt (+6)
3. Force India - 94pt (+18)
4. Ferrari - 81pt (+10)
5. Lotus-Renault - 76pt (DNF)
6. Toro Rosso - 57pt (DNF)
7. Sauber - 50pt (DNF)
8. Mercedes - 49pt (+25)
9. Williams - 46pt (+15)
10. Caterham - 30pt (+12)
11. Marussia - 14pt (DNS)
12. Hispania - 11pt (+8)

Due to the clear air at the top, the surprise, sudden retirement of Vettel has no real effect - McLaren close up to within a race despite the stupidity near the end as Hamilton is classified last. The boys in the middle all trip over each other, while Force India let another maximum slip at the line and Mercedes take it to close up to the midpack and pull away from the new boys at the bottom - Caterham being the big winners, posting both cars ahead of Massa's Ferrari for a fourth place finish!

 

[Famine]

After Britain
1. Red Bull - 152pt (+25)
2. McLaren - 116pt (+12)
3. Ferrari - 99pt (+18)
4. Force India - 94pt (DNF)
5. Lotus-Renault - 91pt (+15)
6. Toro Rosso - 67pt (+10)
7. Mercedes - 57pt (+8)
8. Williams - 52pt (+6)
9. Sauber - 50pt (DNF)
10. Caterham - 30pt (DNS)
11. Marussia - 18pt (+4)
12. Hispania - 13pt (+2)

Red Bull are back on form and McLaren's fourth place opens the gap at the top. Massa's improvements continue and brings Ferrari to within one race of McLaren - but both Force India (despite the DNF) and Lotus are also just one more victory away.

Williams profit from Sauber's "misfortune" in the Williams/Sauber collision, while Marussia and Hispania pick up useful points given Caterham's failure to start both cars - though Caterham remain the best placed of the "new teams".

Though there's some overlap, most groups not separated by maximum points yet, the teams are now effectively in four groups:

• Red Bull on their own
• McLaren, Ferrari, Force India and Lotus
• Toro Rosso, Mercedes, Williams and Sauber
• Caterham, Marussia Hispania

 

[Famine]

After Germany
1. Red Bull - 170pt (+18)
2. McLaren - 116pt (0/DNF)*
3. Ferrari - 109pt (+10)
4. Force India - 106pt (+12)
5. Lotus-Renault - 95pt (+4)
6. Sauber - 75pt (+25)
7. Toro Rosso - 75pt (+8)
8. Mercedes - 72pt (+15)
9. Williams - 58pt (+6)
10. Caterham - 32pt (+2)
11. Marussia - 19pt (+1)
12. Hispania - 13pt (0)

*Hamilton finished 75% of the race distance and is classified 24th

Sauber take a surprise maximum and spring up into the mid-pack with Mercedes and STR, dropping Williams into a very lonely place between the established teams and the newbies. RBR manage a second place and drag themselves well clear of the no-scoring McLaren. Ferrari and Force India close up, dropping Lotus a little but the "Norfolk" boys are still in touch.

HRT manage to finish both cars, but get nothing for 11th, allowing Caterham and Marussia to grab vital points at the bottom.

 

[Famine]

After Hungary
1. Red Bull - 185pt (+15)
2. McLaren - 134pt (+18)
3. Ferrari - 121pt (+12)
4. Lotus-Renault - 120pt (+25)
5. Force India - 116pt (+10)
6. Sauber - 81pt (+6)
7. Toro Rosso - 79pt (+4)
8. Mercedes - 72pt (0/DNF)*
9. Williams - 66pt (+8)
10. Caterham - 34pt (+2)
11. Marussia - 20pt (+1)
12. Hispania - 13pt (0/DNF)**

*Schumacher finished 75% of the race distance and is classified 24th
**Karthikeyan finished 75% of the race distance and is classified 23rd

McLaren gain slightly on Red Bull while Lotus's third maximum drags them up to within touching distance of Ferrari in third. Force India manage another steady finish to keep them in the hunt too.

Mercedes' midpack ambitions are hurt by yet another Schumacher retirement, while all their competitors gain points - epitomising the FACC by winning races with one car while the other consistently fails to finish.

The "new teams" pecking order is firmly established. Caterham have more points than their rivals combined and Hispania are just about half of Marussia with half the season gone. But all it'll take is one serious cluster"bomb" for the newbies to pick up bigger points - and it's a probably-wet Spa up next!

 

[sems4arsenal]

Astonishing How Red Bull have such a big lead,Proving to be the best team thanks to Mark and Seb .

 

[Seismica]

Astonishing How Red Bull have such a big lead,Proving to be the best team thanks to Mark and Seb .

Well, I believe that is because:

a) Their car is very reliable

and

b) Neither driver has had a run-in with Pastor Maldonado yet.

 

[Famine]

But all it'll take is one serious cluster"bomb" for the newbies to pick up bigger points - and it's a probably-wet Spa up next!

After Belgium
1. Red Bull - 210pt (+25)
2. McLaren - 134pt (DNF)
3. Force India - 131pt (+15)
4. Ferrari - 121pt (DNF)
5. Lotus-Renault - 120pt (DNF)
6. Toro Rosso - 96pt (+18)
7. Mercedes - 84pt (+12)
8. Sauber - 81pt (DNF)
9. Williams - 66pt (DNF)
10. Caterham - 42pt (+8)
11. Marussia - 30pt (+10)
12. Hispania - 13pt (DNF)

The predicted cluster"bomb" occurs, but Red Bull's poor qualifying keep them out of trouble and they pick up another maximum to move them away from the rest of the top four - all of whom lost a car in that crash. Force India manage a great third to put themselves into the mix properly.

Toro Rosso leap to the top of the best of the rest, Mercedes get good points and Williams risk being left behind soon unless they can get both cars to the end of a race and not just Senna.

Capitalising on the top teams' misery, Marussia make a small gain on Caterham, but Hispania DNF again. Caterham are starting to put Williams under pressure...

 

[Famine]

After Italy
1. Red Bull - 210pt (DNF)
2. Ferrari - 146pt (+25)
3. McLaren - 134pt (DNF)
4. Force India - 131pt (DNF)
5. Lotus-Renault - 130pt (+10)
6. Mercedes - 102pt (+18)
7. Sauber - 96pt (+15)
8. Toro Rosso - 96pt (DNF)
9. Williams - 78pt (+12)
10. Caterham - 50pt (+8)
11. Marussia - 36pt (+6)
12. Hispania - 17pt (+4)

The woes at Red Bull and McLaren continue and Ferrari exploit it to leap into second - but Red Bull are still more than two races ahead of their rivals. Force India's unusual retirement allows Lotus to close up significantly and make the 2nd-5th place rankings incredibly tight.

Mercedes have a rare good weekend and spring to the top of the midfield, while Williams outpoint Caterham by enough to give themselves a race's worth of clear air.

 

[Famine]

After Singapore
1. Red Bull - 225pt (+15)
2. Ferrari - 164pt (+18)
3. Lotus-Renault - 155pt (+25)
4. Force India - 141pt (+10)
5. McLaren - 134pt (DNF)
6. Sauber - 108pt (+12)
7. Mercedes - 102pt (DNF)
8. Toro Rosso - 96pt (DNF)
9. Williams - 78pt (DNF)
10. Caterham - 56pt (+6)
11. Marussia - 44pt (+8)
12. Hispania - 17pt (DNF)

McLaren's poor record at getting both cars home hurts them badly at Singapore, dropping them to the bottom of the chasing pack - more than a win behind Ferrari. Red Bull pick up useful points to keep them in clear air. Lotus are the big winners, leaping up to 3rd.

Sauber swap places with Mercedes - bringing both cars back despite Nico Hulkenberg's best efforts as Schumacher fails to finish yet again.

Marussia pick up useful points and demonstrate the robustness of this system - while they head Caterham in the F1CC due to a single, fluke twelfth place in a race dominated by gearbox failures, walls and safety cars, their season-long form in the FATC sees them close to but not yet ahead of the Caterham team that they are close to but not capable of beating head to head...

 

[niky]

Go Force India!

 

[homeforsummer]

One suspects that with a bit more money, Force India could be that high up in the actual constructors championship too. Reliability has been pretty good and they've got two strong drivers, both of whom could probably deliver wins in a Ferrari/RB/McLaren.

And McLaren really needs to pull its finger out. They've got two drivers with consistent podium potential, but the amount of races this season where only one driver has finished is ridiculous. That in Famine's standings they're only a win-and-a-bit ahead of Mercedes with the ever-retiring Shumacher is shockingly bad for such a top team.

 

[niky]

This perhaps better illustrates McLaren's woes than the current "Official" Constructor's standings. The number of problems, both mechanical and operational, this season, have been outrageous.

 

[homeforsummer]

This perhaps better illustrates McLaren's woes than the current "Official" Constructor's standings. The number of problems, both mechanical and operational, this season, have been outrageous.

Both drivers are lucky that the problems aren't all happening to either one or the other. Just imagine where a driver would be if all those mechanical failures and team cock-ups happened to just one of them...

 

[niky]

pretty sure Lewis feels that way already...

 

[homeforsummer]

Both probably do. But combine each driver's retirements and there's one car that barely finishes any races. It's no good if the only finish you do make is a win if all the rest are retirements - just ask Maldonado!

 

[Liquid]

Ginster's is letting Williams down here. If he could bring his car home, Senna would most likely pick up the constructors' points. A double retirement is not what they need.

 

[Famine]

It's worth noting that Senna has 18 FATC points to Maldonado's 48 - because on the 9 occasions both cars have come home in the same race, Senna has beaten Maldonado in six of those races...

 

[Liquid]

Wow, really? Now that's a statistic you should keep away from the Bruno vs. Pastor thread (!)

 

[niky]

That's why they had to retire both cars last weekend. We saw Senna's car lose power, but was there any evidence of Maldonado having an actual hydraulic failure? None! None, I tell you! [/conspiracy theory]

 

[Famine]

After Japan
1. Red Bull - 243pt (+18)
2. Ferrari - 164pt (DNF)
3. Lotus-Renault - 161pt (+6)
4. McLaren - 159pt (+25)
5. Force India - 156pt (+15)
6. Sauber - 108pt (DNF)
7. Toro Rosso - 108pt (+12)
8. Mercedes - 102pt (DNF)
9. Williams - 88pt (+10)
10. Caterham - 64pt (+8)
11. Marussia - 44pt (DNF)
12. Hispania - 17pt (DNF)

McLaren spring back to form and get both cars home nose-to-tail, but the pack behind them are mixed up allowing Red Bull to nab a second despite a 2nd corner crash. Ferrari lose out massively as, once again, the 2nd-5th pack close up on each other - 8 points separating them all.

Mid-pack is just as close - STR get a useful finish to drag themselves up onto Sauber's coat-tails and nip past a troubled Mercedes. Williams and Caterham score useful points but effectively put themselves in Williams and Caterham-shaped no-man's-lands - 14pt below 8th, 24pt between each other and 20pt above 11th...

 

[Liquid]

For once, it was Alonso who cost Ferrari points.

Spa excluded. Blame Groanjean.

 

[JacksHerer]

so this is to replace the drivers points system?
(hehe)

 

[niky]

No, to replace the current Constructor's Points system... which unfairly rewards teams for freak performances by their drivers instead of actually... y'know... being a good team.

 

[Famine]

After Korea
1. Red Bull - 268pt (+25)
2. Ferrari - 182pt (+18)
3. Lotus-Renault - 176pt (+15)
4. Force India - 166pt (+10)
5. McLaren - 159pt (DNF)
6. Toro Rosso - 120pt (+12)
7. Sauber - 108pt (DNF)
8. Mercedes - 102pt (DNF)
9. Williams - 96pt (+8)
10. Caterham - 70pt (+6)
11. Marussia - 48pt (+4)
12. Hispania - 17pt (DNF)

Turn 3 claims McLaren's, Mercedes' and ultimately Sauber's races and all three lose ground they cannot afford to their rivals - McLaren losing out on any title ambitions. Results for Red Bull and Ferrari mean that Red Bull can win the title at the next race unless Ferrari score 11 more points than Red Bull...

Toro Rosso score useful points in the midpack to capitalise on Mercedes' and Sauber's failure to score, while Williams pull themselves up onto the coat-tails of the DNFing pair.

At the bottom, HRT fail to bring both cars home again while Caterham and Marussia finish in their traditional positions - Caterham now almost a FACC win clear, but more than a win behind Williams who score useful points.

 

[Famine]

After India
1. Red Bull - 293pt (+25)
2. Ferrari - 197pt (+15)
3. Lotus-Renault - 188pt (+12)
4. McLaren - 177pt (+18)
5. Force India - 176pt (+10)
6. Toro Rosso - 128pt (+8)
7. Sauber - 108pt (DNF)
8. Mercedes - 102pt (DNF)
9. Williams - 102pt (+6)
10. Caterham - 74pt (+4)
11. Marussia - 50pt (+2)
12. Hispania - 17pt (DNF)

Red Bull takes the title, while the chasing pack for the 2nd-5th honours bunch right up again.

Toro Rosso stretch their advantage as best of the rest as Mercedes (Schumacher again) and Sauber both fail to net points. Williams are now tight on Mercedes' coat tails and extend the clear air between themselves and chasing Caterham.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

I think you've given Hispania Marussia's points since De la Rosa retired.