Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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Being officially licensed to operate on the PS3 and being a PS3 wheel is totally different. Every reviewer that reviews the wheel knows this. It would've gotten slammed hard. Thrustmaster isn't deceiving anyone. It's the Official GT5 wheel that just happens to brilliantly work on the PC. Every game that supports it directly is just a bonus.
 
sandboxgod
Being officially licensed to operate on the PS3 and being a PS3 wheel is totally different. Every reviewer that reviews the wheel knows this. It would've gotten slammed hard. Thrustmaster isn't deceiving anyone. It's the Official GT5 wheel that just happens to brilliantly work on the PC. Every game that supports it directly is just a bonus.
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Gees you totally arnt getting it.
The fact that it is licensced and NOT fully compatible is the issue.

If the PWTS released with "X360 Licensced Product" slapped on the box (which it had) then people would assume oh that works on my console.

However if like the T500RS situation it didnt fully work, by this I refer to in not fully supporting ALL X360 titles with FULL FFB then it is to an extent false advertising.

For T500RS is their a disclaimer on the box that says something to the fact that "oh by the way only a few games will work on this new expensive wheel you are considering and their is no gurantee developers will or have to fully support it."

What is the point in having a "Licensced Product" officially certified for that console if it does not require or meet set standards providing/ensuring what consumers would assume in FULL compatibility.
 
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Mr Latte if you want to discuss further you can PM me; thread has already been derailed about unrelated things too much 👎

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Quick question to you Fanatec owners (CSP users). Do you happen to know if load cells is much closer to a real car's gas pedal then potentimeters (sorry spelling)?

What I am asking is what is more closer to a real gas pedal and clutch? Load cell or potentimeters. I noticed new CSR pedal will use pots for gas/clutch
 
sandboxgod
Mr Latte if you want to discuss further you can PM me; thread has already been derailed about unrelated things too much 👎
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Your the one that wanted to drag this on and sorry but you were wrong in stating T500RS is only a GT wheel or was marketed as a PC wheel. However it goes back to the point I rasied that Fanatec should avoid a situation like this with any of their upcoming products.

With the new website it would be a wise decision to have a full list of compatible games on whatever console/platform each product supports properly. It can only reduce angered responses from the community unless the product is clearly advertised to not have full compatibility etc.
 
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Mr Latte
Your the one that wanted to drag this on and sorry but you were wrong in stating T500RS is only a GT wheel or was marketed as a PC wheel.

However it goes back to the point I rasied that Fanatec should avoid a situation like this with any of their upcoming products.

With the new website it would be a wise decision to have a full list of compatible games on whatever console/platform each product supports properly. It can only reduce angered responses from the community unless the product is clearly advertised to not have full compatibility etc.
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Whatever, PM me. I never said it was marketed as a PC wheel. But it is being promoted on PC racing sites. Anyways, seriously, very minor.
 
sandboxgod
Quick question to you Fanatec owners (CSP users). Do you happen to know if load cells is much closer to a real car's gas pedal then potentimeters (sorry spelling)?

What I am asking is what is more closer to a real gas pedal and clutch? Load cell or potentimeters. I noticed new CSR pedal will use pots for gas/clutch
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Load cell for the brake pedal is really much closer to a real brake pedal. Gas/clutch don't use load cell, they use magnetic sensors which benefit not wear over time (contactless), contrary to potentiometers.
 
ceth
Load cell for the brake pedal is really much closer to a real brake pedal. Gas/clutch don't use load cell, they use magnetic sensors which benefit not wear over time (contactless), contrary to potentiometers.
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Ah, that explains things thanks a lot. I am hoping to go load cell shortly. Will be going with CSPs unless Perfect Pedal can deliver load cells for the T500rs before summer is over
 
Fanatec...
We already made a running change on that
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Could you possibly show us what you mean by that? Just curious, again, pain to get back in, out, not so bad. I am very comfortable taking them apart though now without issue. You can be VERY hands on with the CSP's!
 
ISR's Forza 4 preview with CSR wheel. I'm watching it now....



[edit] Nothing new to see so far....
 
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AGP5000
....To get back ON TOPIC if any of you are considering modding your CSP's, go for it. It is VERY easy to do so. BUT, there is this pesky allen screw on each side that is tough to get to. Getting it out is not really an issue with some elbow grease, it's getting it back in where the challenge awaits.
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Its the little guy on the left. Tough to get back in. That is my only riff with modding them. The actual modification is EASY to do.
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What mod(s)? Tuning kit stuff or something else ?

Thanks,
Scotty
 
Yes, he is referring to the official tuning kit.

@AGP5000, why do you sell the kit?; Is not it worth (in your opinion)?
 
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God no Jose. It is a great kit. I have already gotten my use out of it though. It can now go a long way for someone else. I only wanted to make a couple spring change adjustments and brake throw. Now that it is done, and I see less of a need to have the kit, I am selling it to someone who can now utilize it. I have my CSP's set to my exact liking. The only thing left to do is invert them, and you do NOT need a kit for that, just time and patience, and a cockpit.

I hate to spam, but it is on ebay right now with a few cables. Ends Sunday night around 8pmEST.
 
Question on the tuning kit, is there a spring to give the pedal more resistance when you press on it?

Only thing i have issue with is that the pedal is too soft for me coming from a modded set of G25's - love the load cell but just want a harder brake pedal!!
 
Yes, they have 3 springs for each gas and brake. For the brake, they have different brake bar and foam pieces, or you can change the throw by moving the brake up 1 notch in the back.

The springs consist of 30% less, normal, & 30% stronger springs for both the gas and clutch. http://www.fanatec.de/webshop/new_usa/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=73&osCsid=ee6e7401325a8860113ea4b6488d3b78 That is the site for the tuning kit from Fanatec. It is $50 from them. You will also get to see what all you get with it. It is a great kit for tuning your pedals to your liking. And since my pedals have the brass fittings, Someone with older CSP's that have the plastic ones can get mine off of eby and use it for themselves at a discounted price.

The adjustments I made were 30% stronger on gas, moved brake bar up 1 to shorten throw and make more realistic IMO. And put the new normal clutch spring on it. Gas is MUCH more smooth and easy to control, and the brake feels like it does in my car, so that is a plus. Once you have the load cell set to your liking, you will take several tenths off of your laps. Good luck!
 
It says: "Metal bar short for brake (Good for placing the pedal in the second hole position for higher stiffness at same throw)". Is neccesary the shorter bar to do that or simply it is better? Thank you.
 
Jose'
It says: "Metal bar short for brake (Good for placing the pedal in the second hole position for higher stiffness at same throw)". Is neccesary the shorter bar to do that or simply it is better? Thank you.
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It's up to you. The stock brake setup works well for a lot of people. I used it like that for a while and got curious, so I moved the pivot for the brake one hole up. The brake then became very stiff. There was basically no slop, like the brake from a race car. It was very precise, but I personally found it too stiff. So I took the pedals apart and replaced the stock brake spacer bar with the shorter one. I like this the best. Brake pivot up one hole with the short spacer bar. Al dente brake response.

Experiment with your pedals. Try moving the pedal faces up, down, left or right. Experiment with pedal offsets with and without the spacer blocks. Think about your goals though. Perhaps you drove a particular car in real life and want to replicate the feeling of its pedals. Perhaps the current setup doesn't allow you to easily heel and toe.
 
@sandboxgod
We learned that people dont want to wait for their products and pre-order something so we try to avoid that in future. That means that the new CSR line will not be available for pre-order and we will not announce a shipping date until the first containers have left China so we are sure that we can deliver.

We are happy that we can finally deliver all products we have in our webshop right away and we want to try and keep it that way.
 
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@sandboxgod
We learned that people dont want to wait for their products and pre-order something so we try to avoid that in future. That means that the new CSR line will not be available for pre-order and we will not announce a shipping date until the first containers have left China so we are sure that we can deliver.

We are happy that we can finally deliver all products we have in our webshop right away and we want to try and keep it that way.
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Thomas your people over here in the US did a great job getting me a GT2 with clubsports in less than a week!!! 👍
 
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@sandboxgod
We learned that people dont want to wait for their products and pre-order something so we try to avoid that in future. That means that the new CSR line will not be available for pre-order and we will not announce a shipping date until the first containers have left China so we are sure that we can deliver.

We are happy that we can finally deliver all products we have in our webshop right away and we want to try and keep it that way.
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Ah you did say this before. I understand the predicament now. If you give us a date and miss it, then people like myself will get disappointed and complain.

That's perfectly reasonable I must admit
 
Is there any better guess other than 'probably before the end of the year' on when the Elite wheel will be available.
I'm in the market to replace my aging G25, and right now the ThrustMaster is at the top of my list. However, I may be willing to wait depending on the time frame on the new wheel.
 
Thomas/fanatec please could you tell me if the csr elite will have that ultra fast counter spin that the ts500 has.....would really appreciate a answer on this thanks
 
RackAttack
Is there any better guess other than 'probably before the end of the year' on when the Elite wheel will be available.
I'm in the market to replace my aging G25, and right now the ThrustMaster is at the top of my list. However, I may be willing to wait depending on the time frame on the new wheel.
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Again, even if he stated a rough month people will run with it.

It's a no win situation.
 
RackAttack
Is there any better guess other than 'probably before the end of the year' on when the Elite wheel will be available.
I'm in the market to replace my aging G25, and right now the ThrustMaster is at the top of my list. However, I may be willing to wait depending on the time frame on the new wheel.
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Not sure what money is like. But to me SIM racing is a hobby. With hobbies you spend money. Being I do real cars too. SIM stuff is cheap. Heck used to R/C and they are mote expensive then SIM wheels.

So with that. I say get a T500. Use it now its awesome and nice step up from G2x.

Then get the Elite when the reviews hit. If my assumptions correct. It will get excellent reviews.

Seriously. Thomas is here. Posting. Light hearted and having fun with us. That to me says good things are going on at Fanatec. I am excited for them.

It was good to see the T500 come out. The level it brought for the dollar raised the bar in SIM wheels. This obviously was inspiration for Fanatec to come back with a better wheel and match that bang for the buck. Or maybe destroy it.

Anyway this getting windy. Fanatec and Thomas, hope you guys make things happen. Obviously Christmas is a good time to bring a product out.
 
Spagetti69
Again, even if he stated a rough month people will run with it.

It's a no win situation.
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Yeah, I suppose that's true. I thought I'd throw it out there anyways.

I was all set on getting the T500, then I just watched the videos of the Elite and they got me all excited, so now I'm second guessing my T500 choice. Hopefully some more news will surface over the next few weeks that will better inform my decision.
 

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