Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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The motors in mine at the min are holding up very well, touch wood. Although I am getting nearer the end of my warranty too and have my concerns as what to do if they fail. I think if the motors failed from the start of ownership and throughout the warranty Fanatec are still liable if they fail after too
 
Ill buy Fanatecs new rim if they will come out with a motor upgrade for my CSW, would also like their new shifter, but I wont be sending them another penny until they address the heart of my "10 year wheel".
 
Fanatec should make the motorpack available at costprice + shipping or at least for a very reasonable price for all CSW / CSR-Elite wheel owners. Something like they did with the loadcell of the CSP

http://eu.fanatec.com/PedalsAccessories?product_id=627

The CSW Maintenance and Repair Service they offer is far too expensive 150 euro + shippingcost.

This would restore my faith in them, now i dreading the expiration of the warranty
 
I've been holding off on buying the shifter myself, it's been getting great reviews and only a handful of faulty ones.
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Yeah the cost of that Maintenance service is a joke much like the price of that new rim.
Fanatec can't offer an upgraded motor pack as that would admit that there really was something wrong with the original motors.
 
Carson79
I've been holding off on buying the shifter myself, it's been getting great reviews and only a handful of faulty ones.
Once bitten....
Yeah the cost of that Maintenance service is a joke much like the price of that new rim.
Fanatec can't offer an upgraded motor pack as that would admit that there really was something wrong with the original motors.
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They could simply market it as "Want even more power for your CSW? Try our new motor upgrade, twice the power as our original" or something like that. But really they don't need to admit it, its pretty obvious to most people. I think most just want a reliable solution as this point.
 
fatkrakr
They could simply market it as "Want even more power for your CSW? Try our new motor upgrade, twice the power as our original" or something like that. But really they don't need to admit it, its pretty obvious to most people. I think most just want a reliable solution as this point.
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That's exactly the reason why I went back to the T500. It is simply more reliable and only had to replace the fan for a better Noctua one (a well worth upgrade as I can't hear them new fan anymore).
The motor and thus the heart of any wheel is simply much more reliable and does not seem to burn out. At least I can't feel any torque degradation after 3 to 4 years of usage. Plus I haven't heard issues with that for T500's from everyone here at GTP.

In any case I needed a consistent performer FFB wise for testing the tyres plus FFB in pCARS, for me at least this was the T500 at the end of the day.
 
LogiForce
That's exactly the reason why I went back to the T500. It is simply more reliable and only had to replace the fan for a better Noctua one (a well worth upgrade as I can't hear them new fan anymore).
The motor and thus the heart of any wheel is simply much more reliable and does not seem to burn out. At least I can't feel any torque degradation after 3 to 4 years of usage. Plus I haven't heard issues with that for T500's from everyone here at GTP.

In any case I needed a consistent performer FFB wise for testing the tyres plus FFB in pCARS, for me at least this was the T500 at the end of the day.
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I understand what your saying here, but that helps making the CSW more reliable how?
 
fatkrakr
I understand what your saying here, but that helps making the CSW more reliable how?
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By selling the CSW and cut your losses. Or else just keep hoping on a solution by Fanatec or buy eKretz's solution.
 
Although Ekretz's may work great for some, it is not an option in my situation.

It would take a lot more time connecting my wheel, besides that i don't like adding a noisy airpump to my rig.
The airpump 'solution' will definately improve the reliability of even if you don't replace the motor pack and use the Fanatec ones.



Back on the Fanatec news and announcements topic :

Do you guys think we will see Fanatec with new products (next gen wheels) on the E3?
 
I would be happiest as a consumer if Fanatec offered an "upgrade" that came with a new PCB and a pair of stronger brushless motors personally. And no worries HH, everybody has their preferences you don't need to explain. For me personally at least though I am so happy with the performance of the Bühler motors and cooling setup that I'm not even really jealous of the Bodnar or SimX guys' new wheels. Although I'm under no illusions that my modded wheel is better or even really as good as those wheels it isn't the stellar difference that it is to the stock wheel IMO and I can live with that. Setting up the wheel doesn't really take any extra time at all though, just to clarify for others. You just leave the pump tucked away somewhere and run the tubing out to the wheel and with 2 quarter turns you're ready to go. When done disconnect and tuck the tubing back behind the TV with the pump.
 
HoiHman
Back on the Fanatec news and announcements topic :

Do you guys think we will see Fanatec with new products (next gen wheels) on the E3?
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I didn't think Fanatec ever did E3.
The only news about next gen I imagine would be to finally get confirmation that PS4 uses same wheels as PS3 so CSW would be fine. It will be nice to know before Drive Club gets released.
 
Any motor "solutions" should include strong consideration of friction/drag/inertia factors IMO. This can help both immersion and on track speed. It's a big part of why some uberfast sim racers eschew FFB, choosing ECCIs or TSWs or other options. Because while FFB is good, it usually comes with some gotchas. Inherently FFB has some conceptual limitations, for instance you can read Bodnar's article about FFB misconceptions.

Lower Drag Example: The brushless motored TX has noticeably lower drag than the T500rs. You can see it in Wheelcheck coastdowns too. Notice all the folks experiencing improved car control / countersteer? That is when the benefits become more apparent, and the immersion bubble can pop if your wheel's FFB drive inhibits driver intent as most do.

BTW you can configure Wheelcheck to track coastdown characteristics in a useful manner with some setting changes.
 
museumsteve
I didn't think Fanatec ever did E3.
The only news about next gen I imagine would be to finally get confirmation that PS4 uses same wheels as PS3 so CSW would be fine. It will be nice to know before Drive Club gets released.
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It is said on Sony's FAQ page, that PS4 recognizes PS3 wheels as a generic devices. It is down to game developers to allow them to work with their games.
 
We waited 2 years for this? A wheel with no buttons whatsoever and they have the balls to charge 350? What happened to the slick Porsche wheel? I assume they will reveal atleast one or two more soon? I feel no regret I bought the T500, I can buy a 350mm rim from a huge variety of brands and for a barging price. I recently saw someone selling momo wheels for 60€ used in good condition. It´s also possible to buy a new RRS wheel for same price. But even a brand new Momo made in Italy (in contrast to Fanatecs chinese sweatshop) costs around 150€ cheaper than the Fanatec rim. I could accept it if the rim costed 100€-150€ I Seriously hope people vote with their wallets and don´t buy it until they cut the price
 
Simmpa
We waited 2 years for this?
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Everybody keeps talking about 2 years. Even CSW itself has not been on sale for 2 years and it has long been known that they wont release a new rim every month let alone after only few months on sale.

Only Fanatec knows why it costs that much. Only thing I could think of is maybe leather is handstitched to it in Italy or something.
 
bumer
Everybody keeps talking about 2 years. Even CSW itself has not been on sale for 2 years and it has long been known that they wont release a new rim every month let alone after only few months on sale.

Only Fanatec knows why it costs that much. Only thing I could think of is maybe leather is handstitched to it in Italy or something.
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Have you actually heard of machine stitching a steering wheel? I haven't at least. As far as I know because it is such an intricate task that it can not be done by a machine, so every leather wheel has its stitching done by hands of many men and probably mostly women. Correct me if I am wrong though.
 
LogiForce
Have you actually heard of machine stitching a steering wheel? I haven't at least. As far as I know because it is such an intricate task that it can not be done by a machine, so every leather wheel has its stitching done by hands of many men and probably mostly women. Correct me if I am wrong though.
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Don't forget about the children. People always forget about the children. :(
 
All over the web simracers are bashing Fanatec.They really made a mistake pricing this rim at such a high price.

Looking at the picture of the new rim, I think this rim also misses the two FFB motors for vibration. If it had some special featuress like hidden buttons on the back of the wheel and was made from carbonfiber, that could explain the price.

@eKretz : A brushless motorpack upgrade would also make me very happy :)
 
Do you think maybe there will be more to come with the wheel rim? Like some kind of button box and rev counter, and this was their intention to generate a lot of talk over the old inter web?
 
I think this is going to make things easier for me in regards to whether I would go for the CSW or the T500RS, if this price is correct I think it is almost laughable, for me they are pricing themselves out, I think a T500RS with and adapter on which I can attach a wide range of rims are the way to go for me. In addition I would rather face a problem with the fan on the T500RS then the motor on the CSW
 

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