Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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Glad im not the only one thinking the price is not just for the rim and qr.

Doesnt the csw require somesort of electronics on the wheel side to function properly, hence why you cannot simply use the factory qr and adapt it to any other rim?

I believe we are only seeing half the product.
 
Caz
Doesnt the csw require somesort of electronics on the wheel side to function properly, hence why you cannot simply use the factory qr and adapt it to any other rim?
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I think it is actually pretty easy. You just need to take the electronics out from one rim (formula rim is the cheapest option), reroute/move the wires from the shaft and make a button box or something out of the rim electronics and put it somewhere near the wheel so it is connected to a wheel (wires could come out somewhere from the back part (easiest to attach plug from the shaft to the back plastic part, so you can easily disconnect electronics if needed) and then use QR to attach it somehow to whatever rim you like.
 
I dont disagree with that at all.
Which is why I believe this new rim is only half of the product at a 350 price point. The data port may override the need for any electronics within the rim ( as far as i know we never really found out what that is used for, tho i could be mistaken as i havent really followed it to closely for a while.) and building a button box utilizing the same circuitry within the rims that plugs into there would make alot of sense.

I have been contemplating tearing apart my old 911 wheel to build a box and replace my gt3 rim with something else. It really is as simple as you say with rerouting the wires from the steering shaft to out of the base housing.
 
Caz
The data port may override the need for any electronics within the rim ( as far as i know we never really found out what that is used
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It should be for products like bodnar sli-m and likes, but Fanatec themselves haven't released or announced a thing although probably something has been in works for a while.
 
So this was just posted on their FB page. 250. This is much better news than a 350$ classic wheel

https://www.facebook.com/Fanatec

Carbon facelift formula rim.


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bermudak1d
So this was just posted on their FB page. 250. This is much better news than a 350$ classic wheel

https://www.facebook.com/Fanatec

Carbon facelift formula rim.


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I do totally not agree with you. In my opninion Fanatec misses the boat for the second time this week.:confused:

This is just the standard formula rim with a thin layer of carbon fiber on it. Not the " full F1 rim " we have all been waiting for, but simply raising the price of the F1 rim another $70 by putting a $7 carbonfiber plate on it. My guess is that the "classic" F1 rim is discontinued.

I do not expect that even one CSW owner will buy this to replace his current formula rim.
 
Archangel
I think this is going to make things easier for me in regards to whether I would go for the CSW or the T500RS, if this price is correct I think it is almost laughable, for me they are pricing themselves out, I think a T500RS with and adapter on which I can attach a wide range of rims are the way to go for me. In addition I would rather face a problem with the fan on the T500RS then the motor on the CSW
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I have had both, the French-designed, made in China fan issue is small-fry in comparison to the Bavarian-designed, made in China component that has provided the impetus for the honorable @eKretz's sought after solution.

One product is very enticing, but high strung, and requires high maintenance.
The other is rather mundane, a bit boring, but seemingly more reliable.
 
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HoiHman
I do totally not agree with you. In my opninion Fanatec misses the boat for the second time this week.:confused:

This is just the standard formula rim with a thin layer of carbon fiber on it. Not the " full F1 rim " we have all been waiting for, but simply raising the price of the F1 rim another $70 by putting a $7 carbonfiber plate on it. My guess is that the "classic" F1 rim is discontinued.

I do not expect that even one CSW owner will buy this to replace his current formula rim.
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I actually think the original one looks better to be honest. Disappointing stuff coming from Fanatec, definitely not the innovation one would expect. Perhaps there's one more to come that could save face a little for them, the Porsche rim.
Save the best for last lol
 
Carson79
I actually think the original one looks better to be honest. Disappointing stuff coming from Fanatec, definitely not the innovation one would expect. Perhaps there's one more to come that could save face a little for them, the Porsche rim.
Save the best for last lol
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I believe they do not have anything exciting at all at the moment. I think they feel the pressure of the E3 and still do not have a next gen wheel (or concept) (even though they are not present there). The announcents of the "new" rims is merely an attemp to cover this up.

I do not think, like some, that the classic rim will have more features that what was shown in the original announcement.

The Porsche rim looks exiciting, but the way Fanatec is now starting to price their CSW rims, this could be $400 or more wheel rim.
 
HoiHman
I believe they do not have anything exciting at all at the moment. I think they feel the pressure of the E3 and still do not have a next gen wheel (or concept) (even though they are not present there). The announcents of the "new" rims is merely an attemp to cover this up.

I do not think, like some, that the classic rim will have more features that what was shown in the original announcement.

The Porsche rim looks exiciting, but the way Fanatec is now starting to price their CSW rims, this could be $400 or more wheel rim.
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I noticed that Thrustmaster (apparently) won't be at E3, I guess that means they have no wheel for any of the new consoles. ;-)
 
Carson79
Disappointing stuff coming from Fanatec
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Rims are a dissapointment, but this cockpit for driving schools is rather interesting. Probably they still use csw base hidden inside, but there seems to be a readymade solution that many want although it is hard to tell from the picture. I'm talking about all the switches and buttons attached to base itself and then regular steering rim with just the QR attached to base.
 
Having read the Fanatec blog it I'm not sure if the news of the F1 rim was planned this soon or not. Maybe a reaction to the the disappointment of the Classic rim.
From the blog;
It seems that some of you expected a new rim with more buttons and less expensive so what about the new Formula rim with real CARBON fiber?

The functionality is the same as in the Formula rim but the style is completely different. The 3D effect of the Carbon Fiber makes it looks different from every angle. This is pure racing style.

It also comes with exchangeable grips and we plan to offer different colour and material options in future.

Available very soon at a price of USD 249,95 (excl. tax) or € 249,95 (incl VAT)
 
It should be noted that people should stop calling it a F1 rim, although it is a lot easier to write. It is in essence still just a general Formula style, not F1. Some people take everything word by word and find it to be a bad interpretation of F1, but it it can't be bad, because it is not supposed to be F1. Most of course doesn't care because they know what it is.
 
Maybe they are going to replace the Formula rim with this. I don't imagine many that already have the rim will buy this new one. But it is exciting that there's another rim on offer, maybe this isn't the end and we have more on the way :)
I say to myself I wont get one but maybe it's an opportunity to dismantle my current Formula one and make my own DTM style rim..and then get the new Formula rim when it's out :)
 
Carson79
From the blog;
It seems that some of you expected a new rim with more buttons and less expensive so what about the new Formula rim with real CARBON fiber?
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So they announce a new Formula rim with the same number of buttons and make it significantly more expensive because they've changed the face plate. lol

I'm very disappointed in Fanatec. The pricing of the rims, particularly the classic one seems ludicrous. I'll stick with my current Formula and GT rims.

I'm also worried about Fanatec support when my CSW is out of warranty. As far as I'm concerned I paid a premium price for a premium wheel and if there are problems out of warranty I don't want to have to pay the price of the Maintenance and Repair Service (150 Euros plus postage to Germany there and back) to have it fixed, if for example a cheap component like the motors has failed.

The "Premium Service Pack" on new CSWs also seems to be a bit of a money grab.

With all these factors, despite wanting to buy a CSS I'm holding off as right now I just don't have confidence in Fanatec. They seem to make quite a few odd decisions.
 
marky5244
So they announce a new Formula rim with the same number of buttons and make it significantly more expensive because they've changed the face plate. lol
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I think what he said about buttons, is compared to classic rim, because many didn't like not having buttons, not compared to previous formula rim.
 
Previous Fanatec F1 rim actually looks better and cheaper.
They should improve BMW wheel instead of F1 rim which is in my opinion, one of best wheel rim on the market for its price (179 usd)
 
bumer
I think what he said about buttons, is compared to classic rim, because many didn't like not having buttons, not compared to previous formula rim.
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I think marky's point was that apart from the faceplate there's no difference to the existing Formula rim and the extra cost, which is fairly disappointing if you already have the Formula rim (but maybe good for new customers of course)
 
Don't know whether it has something to do with the maintenance on their site (prbobaly it concerns only community page) but it seems they have given up their premium service for base and rims. Probably there weren't many who were interested in paying 50 extra for every product for no reason.
 
I was just about to suggest that someone consider a GT3RS with Elite pedals package as an alternative to a G27, when I checked the website. Has Fanatec really upped the price by US$40 and accompanied that with a very excited looking "new price" in red font?
 
LeMansAid
I was just about to suggest that someone consider a GT3RS with Elite pedals package as an alternative to a G27, when I checked the website. Has Fanatec really upped the price by US$40 and accompanied that with a very excited looking "new price" in red font?
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Are you sure they have upped the price or have they added shifter set or something? Don't know what the package or price were before, but you get a lot better deal in USA than people in Europe.
 
LeMansAid
I was just about to suggest that someone consider a GT3RS with Elite pedals package as an alternative to a G27, when I checked the website. Has Fanatec really upped the price by US$40 and accompanied that with a very excited looking "new price" in red font?
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Well maybe their thinking if they raise the price on all their products maybe then the prices of their newest wheel rims wont seem so high.
 
From Fanatec Blog:


We are continuously getting a lot of questions but also complaints
from our customers about the COMPATIBILITY of Xbox 360 wheels to Xbox
One so we decided to make a FAQ and poll about it.

Did Microsoft allow steering wheels (or other input devices) of the first generation Xbox to be compatible to the Xbox 360?

No

Was there a legal and official way to make Xbox (first generation) wheels fully compatible to Xbox 360 ?

No

Will it be technically possible to make an adapter to use Xbox 360 peripherals (like steering wheels) on the Xbox One?

Probably
yes but the effort and complication would be significant. The new
console uses a completely different force feedback communication
protocol, wireless transmission protocol and a different security chip.
The security chip needs to be purchased by the 3rd party manufacturer
from Microsoft and it makes sure that only official licensed products
can be connected to the console. Only if you get the official approval
from Microsoft you will be able to purchase such a security chip for
Xbox One. Besides that, given the high development costs and limited
market it would not be possible to offer it at a cheap price.

Does Microsoft allow the use of Xbox 360 devices to be used on Xbox One?

So
far no and there is no indication that this will change. This means it
is impossible to make such an adapter. This is the case for any company
and not just us. There are other expensive peripherals like music
instruments for Xbox 360 which also cannot be used anymore.

Did Fanatec plan to make such an adapter or do you rather prefer to sell new wheels?

Of
course we would have rather made a simple adapter or even just a
firmware update and continue to sell the wheels we have. Instead we now
have to develop something completely new. As other companies were
faster, the chance of losing customers is very high. This is not in our
interest at all!

Can you make such an adapter without the confirmation of Microsoft and sell it directly or indirectly to your customers?

Making
a device which cracks the security chip of Microsoft is clearly not
legal and we would immediately destroy the good relationship with
Microsoft. Furthermore we would be sued if we would attempt to sell or
even just support the development of such a device.
If Microsoft would
allow such an adapter then the whole security chip system would not make
any sense anymore as it would suddenly be an open system and you can
connect anything to the console.
This system actually has positive
effects for the consumer as well as it makes sure that all connected
peripherals are tested and work with all games. This is not the case on
other consoles.

Since when do you know that such an adapter is not possible?

Microsoft
never confirmed that such an adapter is possible or not and we were
waiting up to now. But given the technical complexity and also the
philosophy of Microsoft, we do not expect any more that such an adapter
will ever come to the market.

Are you working on a new Xbox One wheel
and when will it be released?

We do work on a next generation wheel and
the Xbox One is a key market for us. But at that point we cannot reveal
any further information or give a timeline. If there is any announcement
it will be made here on the blog.

Why did you not release an Xbox One
wheel at launch?

We would have loved to do so but the 3rd party
peripheral department of Microsoft which authorizes all Xbox peripherals
has limited capacity. Therefore other companies which make much bigger
business with Microsoft than us got this wheel business first. Our
relationship is very good with them but we have to respect that bigger
customers get better service. That is a standard business practice and
there is not much we can do about it.

The only one who can change that
is the Xbox One customer with its’ buying behavior because Microsoft
likes whatever the Xbox user likes and buys.


PS: PS4 compatibility will
be discussed separately as it is a completely different and independent
subject
 

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