Fanatec Porsche 911 Turbo wheel: Test

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The H shifter is fifted to the cockpit with a special double bar modification. It´s very probable its can´t be fifted directly to a table.
I have asked about if its has holes for screws to fit to a cokpit, but I never have get a response (really this image is my response).
If the shifter has not been modified before the launch of the 911TW, we will must to invent some to fit the shifter.

it mounts right on the wheel.
 
I don't see it there. When I log in it says welcome community tester. If I try to confirm again it tells me I have entered max confirmations.Anyway I'll be glad to get this wheel & test it.Pretty good discount if we decide to keep.

I also don't see a 'y' and get the You've entered the max confirmations.
 
Hello Thomas.

Want this to say that the final version has any diference with the cdcdude unit?.

Could you reply to my questions, please (if pedals and shifter has holes for screws, and the pedal´s base dimensions)?. I ask to you about the holes for screws on the shifter in the wheel community, but I don´t get a reply.


Thanks very much.

There are several smaller differences in Firmware and also we fixed some mechanical flaws. The buttons work better for example.
We dont have holes for the pedals but they already come with velcro tape on it so you just need the counterpart. For the shifter you will need to make a special adapter.
Or you wait for our new cockpit which is designed especially for this wheel.
 
Whats up with the shipment of the test units?? Anyone receive any updates? On 1/24 I got an email saying that they'll ship it out in a few days, but already a week has gone by. I've filled out the confirmation on line and all of that, but no updates. The website doesn't even update saying you've confirmed, just rejects you if you confirm again.

Deadline for reviews and a decision to buy or return is the 15th, so Fanatec are you planning on delivering the wheels to us on 15th along with a copy of the bill?? :odd:

Your product better be 🤬 good.

The wheels are already in the US since January 17th and same with Europe but it seems that Murphy is our best friend and he helped us to create another delay due to missing documents, slow customs blablabla.
The EU wheels will definitly go out on Monday and I expect that the US wheels ship on Tuesday.
We will increase the testing period for at least one week.

We will send our wheels to a lot of happy G25 users and we are not afraid of their judgement. It took a while and we still know a lot of things we can improve but the people who tested the wheel so far were quite surprised.

You really work for Fanatec?

I am the CEO of Endor which owns the brand Fanatec.

Thomas Jackermeier
 
The wheels are already in the US since January 17th and same with Europe but it seems that Murphy is our best friend and he helped us to create another delay due to missing documents, slow customs blablabla.
The EU wheels will definitly go out on Monday and I expect that the US wheels ship on Tuesday.
We will increase the testing period for at least one week.

We will send our wheels to a lot of happy G25 users and we are not afraid of their judgement. It took a while and we still know a lot of things we can improve but the people who tested the wheel so far were quite surprised.

Thanks for replying, I'm looking forward to it. Will you guys be sending out shipping tracking information?
 
The above post was to inject alittle humor into the post. I don't want it to seem that I'm ungrateful for the oppertunitey to be one of your testers, only to want more.



With that said sign me up:):):):):)
 
I am the CEO of Endor which owns the brand Fanatec.

Thomas Jackermeier

Hi Thomas. It is nice to see someone in your position taking some real interest in your product and customers. As I already own a G25 and 2 DFPs, the chances that I'll be investing immediately in the Porsche wheel are slim (unless it is of truly staggering quality). However, my G25 is already beginning to wear out, so I might be visiting your product sooner than expected...

But what I really wanted to say is that I think there is a place for a slightly higher-priced but extremely realistic wheel. I could see myself going as high as $500 for something truly excellent. Pedals with true-to-life travel would be a major improvement, as all the current sets (well, I haven't seen the Porsche wheel yet...) have too little resistance and travel, making throttle and braking control more difficult than it should be. Pedals also tend to be too close together. Just my 2 cents worth since we seem to have the ear of someone who cares!
 
There are several smaller differences in Firmware and also we fixed some mechanical flaws. The buttons work better for example.
We dont have holes for the pedals but they already come with velcro tape on it so you just need the counterpart. For the shifter you will need to make a special adapter.
Or you wait for our new cockpit which is designed especially for this wheel.
Thanks, Thomas.

I remember to have readed in the firsts days of the wheel´s FAQ, that all parts could be fifted to a cockpit using screws. I suposse, for this new info you give me, you retired this text from the FAQ after. And for this I suposse there is not pictures of the base of the pedals and shifter in the Fanatec´s web, and there is one of the base of the wheel where the 4 holes are showed.

Really, Thomas: I can´t understand why to put holes for screws in the wheel and not in the other parts (all or nothing). The wheel has strong force feedback, but the pedals and the shifter heavy resistance also.

Really will be a problem for me to fit all the parts of the wheel to my VPP Racing Rack cockpit. Velcro tapes are not so solid than screws, and I will must to invent some for the shifter.


Best regards.
 
I am looking forward to hearing what G26 owners have to say on the 911 wheel. I only intend on buying one and wanna get it right:P
 
great news :). As for firmware that can be updated or? Would be nice to see some list so I know what differs from the retail wheel if I find any issues with it.

As for the cockpit what market is it aimed at... Playseat, rhenoseat, or the more exclusive market with real racing or sport seats like VPP, NIXIM, Virtualroadster and the likes.

I am looking for a replacement for my playseat is that far away in the horizon?
 
But what I really wanted to say is that I think there is a place for a slightly higher-priced but extremely realistic wheel. I could see myself going as high as $500 for something truly excellent.

I second that opinion, however from a practical standpoint anyone developing such a thing would also want to make money. And to do that they have to cater to all audiences, from n00bs to pr0s, from people that don't have race frames to those who do, and every added feature is a trade off on something.

It's really not impossible to take real car parts, wire them up, and sell them for less than 500 bucks. However, wheels as game controllers generally cater to a very small and niche market as it is, and a wheel thats super realistic and would cost more, would cater to an even smaller market. Companies generally don't like to build and sell things that don't make lots of money.:indiff:

A company that would also be able to produce such a device would have to be a big company that has ties with other manufacturing companies and can control the price of the parts used to make such a device by buying in bulk. Thats the only way something like this will cost cheap. :sly: (The same way Walmart can sell stuff cheap, because they buy in crap loads from manufacturers and can control the market.)

So to build such a thing cheap, you need to buy lots of parts and produce lots of units, or outsource the labor to bring down production costs. But remember that these units will not sell that much because they cater to a small audience. So no big company will do that unless they're willing to lose money.:ouch:

Because this is how the economics of our world work, unfortunately we may never get a game controller like this, unless someone somewhere comes up with a business model to make such a thing sell in massive amounts.💡

There is also the logistical side of going about building such things. What makes it difficult is the bureaucratic bull**** of business.:grumpy:

Could you imagine yourself as a CEO of the company building this peripheral going up to the CEO of General Motors (for example), to pitch him the idea that you want his company to produce car parts for a PlayStation 3 controller that will sell only a 1000 units? :dunce: You either have to be amazing at pitching such deals, or hope that one of the old corporate greasers on his advisory board know what a playstation is.
I bet you this is part of the reason why it took Fanatec so many years to license this thing with Porsche.:boggled:

The only people that would build such a device are people like us, :sly: and they do build them. However, because they're not big companies, they can't control the market value of the parts they use, and they don't have corporate ties to outsource labor. So it doesn't cost them 500 bucks to build such a device, its costs them 1000 because they have to buy those parts fromm their local store, and then they sell it to you for 2000, because their rent is expensive.:ill:

Sucks, doesn't it? :cheers:

...Just so I'm not off topic here, 911 Turbo Wheel, :eek::eek: yeeeah, wooo hooo!:P Vroom, vroom, force feedback, gas, break, clutch :dunce:
 
The economy is quite simple: If there is a demand there will be people which will try to supply.

We are listening very carefully what you guys want and believe me that the things you want are already in progress. We might not have the cheapest sources but they are good enough. And we have the advantage to be small and the decision process is short.

We need to make money but we can afford to develop products and features which the finacial department of a bigger company would have kicked out.

Unfortunatly this make our products a bit more complicated than others and more expensive to build. But this is not only about making money. Racing games are my passion and I want to build wheels which I am personally fully convinced.

The challenge is to make those freaky products affordable and I think we can do so. Our cockpit will not be the cheapest but it will be affordable and with a good price performance. Just like the PWT.
 
We are listening very carefully what you guys want and believe me that the things you want are already in progress.

First of all, It's great that you are getting close with the community. And now a question :) Things in progress - does it mean there is another steering wheel in progress too? One that is even better than Porsche wheel?

I really can't wait till I beta test the wheel. Based on video the steering wheel looked a little bit or up to par with G25 in "countersteering speed". G25 was the first wheel on the market that delivered real feeling of drifting where it's possible to just let the wheel spin and catch it. I hope same thing can be done with Porsche wheel, I was actually hoping that it would be faster than G25. But.. If it's speed is like G25, but feels a lot of smoother(thanks to the belt) that still will be a great improvement :)
 
There is already a budget wheel announced... Haven´t heard anything about yet another super wheel... Then you are aiming directly at Frex, VPP and such which pretty much only targets the real hardcore racers :).

As for the cockpit one thing that is really missing is cockpits that is made not only for racing and perhaps gamepad gaming but also mouse/keyboard or flight simming.

The Obutto cockpit is pretty much the only cockpit that is offering a complete solution really if you want to get rid of the desktop altogether and don´t want to run arcade racing titles or fps with gamepads or expensive console games in general... Or just want to word process or checking forums or whatever. Nice not having to have the keyboard in the knee even if that works of course. Now I do have all consoles except for the PS 3 guess I will get that one too lol.

Anyway would be smart to cater for those too... It really don´t require much... many run keyboard replacements so having say to bigger plates to the left and right that can also serve as shifter plates would go a long way Would be optimum for HOTAS setups as well... Even though I preferr the obuttos solution with a whole desk beside you that you easilly can put to the side since you do sometimes want a keyboard to chat or otherwise.

But mainly for regular gaming for flight simming you can attach a yoke to where you have the wheel and in the Saitek PRO flight systems (the most popular consumer level yoke out there) the throttle on your shifter plate.

In a way I do hope it doesn´t have these features since I need a cockpit desperately already :P
 
We are listening very carefully what you guys want and believe me that the things you want are already in progress. We might not have the cheapest sources but they are good enough. And we have the advantage to be small and the decision process is short.

Awesome, are you guys hiring by any chance? I'll work for you :dopey:, and I'll even move to germany!
 
We are listening very carefully what you guys want and believe me that the things you want are already in progress.

Glad to hear that. How about a wheel that resembles what you would find in a LMP or F1 car? The wheel should have a speedometer, tachometer, fuel and oil gauges. Let's get those gauges off the screen and onto the dashboard where they belong, right?! Force feedback, of course, and a few programable buttons such as on the existing DFP would be nice too. And yes, I would pay top dollar for a wheel like that. Oh, pedals too - realistic incremental pressure on the pedals. Yes!

Thanks,
ERacer
 
Yes, and don't forget about a functional "DRINK" button :D

BTW, ERacer, by "top dollars" do you mean >$1500-$2000? In that case check out VPP, BRD (some time in the future ;) ), or Frex (soon).
 
I really appreciate your ideas but perhaps we should open or use a different thread as this thread is for the wheel tests.

But in general, you can expect to get a wheel in almost every quality category from us within the next two years. Just like with real cars, the quality will be reflected in the price.

The only thing you will not get are wheels which are crappy and should sell because of their license...
 
so by any chance the Mercedes 190e Evo II wheel and shifter will come out? HEHE
 
Where I come from (PC-land), Moderators know to read posts before asking pointless questions :)
Yes, the first wheels have arrived. We know.

Take your attitude back to PC land. 💡
 
Yes, the first wheels have arrived. We know.

Take your attitude back to PC land. 💡
lol daan, he's right though. he's simply informing people that people are reporting that they've finally recieved the wheels in the mail to test. people other than the ones that have posted in this thread. did you bother to read the thread over at lfsforums? i'm sick right now and having trouble forming coherent sentences. hopefully my wheel will be arriving in a few days so i can answer some questions for myself that havent been answered yet here or elsewhere.

niels will probably have a full review up soon.
 
The economy is quite simple: If there is a demand there will be people which will try to supply.

Then why isn't anyone developing a decent XBOX360 supported wheel? There are literally no good wheels for this platform, yet tons and tons of people are playing Forza and PGR.

Get to work mister Endor AG. :drool:
 
Yes, the first wheels have arrived. We know.

Take your attitude back to PC land. 💡


I'm also from PC land....lol I wish that they put as much time into PC sims as they do the consoles.There is one coming out this month thats supose to be excellent.


By the way i also am wait'n on my wheel to arrive.Also like your forums here. Thanks RoOK
 
Then why isn't anyone developing a decent XBOX360 supported wheel? There are literally no good wheels for this platform, yet tons and tons of people are playing Forza and PGR.

Get to work mister Endor AG. :drool:
I've been told recently by an Endor rep unofficially this is in the works but a ways off: paperwork signed, development underway. It will be a 360-only wheel though due to M$ hardware/security issues.

I say this all as I'm shopping on Craigslist for a used and warrantied PS3 since my M$ wheel is driving me nuts and 911 wheel on the way. Sad since (yes, shocking in PC-land) I am loving PGR4. I know it's not a realistic physics model, but I love the cockpit view, pick up and drive approach, and edge of the seat fun it has though. And it can be challenging with the wheel on the faster cars- it's not like it's a straigh up easy to drive arcade only racer. Manages to walk a fine (and fun) line IMO! Also great effects with an iVibe/Buttkicker in the seat in that game.

As far as the PS3, the 911 wheel is the main reason there, since I like the idea of PC-racing but have never really gotten too deep into it and have a feeling I'll want a good console game to just pick up and play. I'm getting F1:CE (just confirmed with Endor it works on the 911 w/ FFB now that the game is patched.) I can't decide if I should order an import version of GT5P though or wait until next month for the US release. Decisions decisions....

Still, I'll miss PGR4 (or it'll be a PITA to switch back and forth between wheels on my Playseat Evo.) I was begging them to try to make a kit for around $100 that would allow the 360 wireless protocols to translate to the existing 911 wheel, but no dice- was told it wasn't possible with the 360 controller security chip or whatever. Doh!
 
I've been told recently by an Endor rep unofficially this is in the works but a ways off: paperwork signed, development underway. It will be a 360-only wheel though due to M$ hardware/security issues.
All right, potentially good news then. 👍
 

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