WOW, the 911 shifter will hold for longer then the G25? I have my G25 for a year, and i use it for HARDCORE sim racing with pounding on GAS, Brake, and Clutch, the shifter took much abuse , and it holds like new.. Im watching videos on youtube, and the shifter on the 911 looks really weak. When the guy shifter the whole stand and everything moves around.. how can that survive even a year?
Fanatec Porsche 911 Turbo wheel: Test
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the mount not sure. Wouldn´t hurt anything but well the bars may be loose after a while depending how well those plastic screws holds. It does work though. Much better then first impressions would say though my reaction was kind of the same at first
... But again you really have to try this stuff you can´t review them on youtube sadly. Another example on this is the playseat evo... Many don´t buy this because they see it as wobbly on the G25... However you never feel it budge not even the pedal set... Which do budge with modded pedals but that´s another story and why I sold it.
Renoseat the same thing... Look at youtube wobble all over the place but it´s part of its design believe it or not... Force feedback into your seat
.As for the shifter of course you can feel the wobble and yes I think it make it a fraction harder to get the gears in has to use a little more force but it does work and I never miss shifts... Did in the beginning before I got used to the mega force needed to get into fifth gear
. I can see myself in the middle of the battle miss that though lol.So it´s useful even though it´s mounting is all but optimal... Especially since the reason for it is to accommodate for the in your lap gamers that do themself a disservice buying this wheel du to the bulk, the strong force feedback of it.
But Fanatec is already fixing this hopefully won´t charge extra for it.
But don´t worry about the shifter it will take tons of abuse even if it doesn´t have the looks going for it
...Renoseat the same thing... Look at youtube wobble all over the place but it´s part of its design believe it or not... Force feedback into your seat
Unique construction of Rinoseat enables sim drivers to feel more of FFB and in that way enjoy more in virtual reality. Flexibility (there is no wobbliness, loose or shaky connection beetwen any part) of steering wheel support tube helps FFB forces to vibrate and travel through seat and body. That could be compared to "resonating forke" effect well known from physics.
there is no wobbliness, loose or shaky connection beetwen any part -> believe it or not
...This seat is not totally stiff construction. It have an very small amount of flexibility almost as vibrations. To me this really bring something extra to the driving! The driving have become more alive. I can actually feel what the car is up to, an extra feed back. You become one with the car. I might add I always drive in cockpit view. I never get a feeling of weakness in the construction, it is very stable!...
review: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=697275#post697275
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.................btw did your H-shifters look used if you look at the ball when you got it?I think I got a veteran unit.................
ROFL
Yup I had the same feeling. The ball is really ugly. It looks like it has been used a LOT.
Currently on rFactor I use the LEO plugin and it seems to be a lot better then the realfeel plugin. On LFS i am still struggling tho
, I just cant get the wheel working properly without I get the feeling it is recentering itself. Any off you have the same issue ??? 💡the SST Lightning shifter uses similar if not the same material on the ball and that don´t show the same amount of wear at all and virtually nothing when it was new... And that shifter you can drive a truck over won´t hurt it lol so I am kicking my gears in all I want with that .
As for the auto centering don´t know if you read hard jacks and my post how to disable it? It don´t seem to be removed totally dunno if it´s the inbuilt auto centering or if the wheel have kind of a rubber band effect. But well in windows it stays uncentered so I guess it´s the games inbuilt auto center that kicks in or something??? Or that it simply start behave like this when the FFB engine is activated?
But for the ISI games and rFactor you just alt tab and check the auto center box twice and you feel the wheel get loose... In RBR it´s enough to do this before you start RBR for me. In the .ISI titles I seem to do it for each session or as long as I don´t go into the control tab at least. Not sure if it will work for LFS.
Some sims I do preferr it like that you still have some resistance in the wheel
. As for the auto centering don´t know if you read hard jacks and my post how to disable it? It don´t seem to be removed totally dunno if it´s the inbuilt auto centering or if the wheel have kind of a rubber band effect. But well in windows it stays uncentered so I guess it´s the games inbuilt auto center that kicks in or something??? Or that it simply start behave like this when the FFB engine is activated?
But for the ISI games and rFactor you just alt tab and check the auto center box twice and you feel the wheel get loose... In RBR it´s enough to do this before you start RBR for me. In the .ISI titles I seem to do it for each session or as long as I don´t go into the control tab at least. Not sure if it will work for LFS.
Some sims I do preferr it like that you still have some resistance in the wheel
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Oke guys I finished mine review. Feel free to read it Goto
http://halfordsracing.com/community.V2/download.php?id=462
http://halfordsracing.com/community.V2/download.php?id=462
I am soon ready to go with mine as well... I have tried most things and I got a good feel for this... Also done some racing with the G25 now to get back the feel for it as well.
I am reading your review now and I see some errors... You can adjust the steering angle from 200-900 degrees in the driver menu or didn´t that work with your wheel? You are not forced to use the 180-360-900 presets in ISI titles just because you don´t adjust wheel travel in rFactor itself just the steering locks. also you spelled fans vans and huge hugh
Great review though fix that and it´s perfect... And don´t worry when I post my english review there will be tons more grammar and spelling errors to fix so you will get your revenge for my nit picking
I am reading your review now and I see some errors... You can adjust the steering angle from 200-900 degrees in the driver menu or didn´t that work with your wheel? You are not forced to use the 180-360-900 presets in ISI titles just because you don´t adjust wheel travel in rFactor itself just the steering locks. also you spelled fans vans and huge hugh
Great review though fix that and it´s perfect... And don´t worry when I post my english review there will be tons more grammar and spelling errors to fix so you will get your revenge for my nit picking
This should probly be moved out of this area.I'm just posting to reply about the rino seat post above... I just converted cost to USD from thier site which ist pice @169
euroes...
converts to 248 USDWay over priced.If Fanatec is considering using the for the devolopment of a sim pit for the 911 wheel....I would suggest that the contact
http://www.obutto.com/home.html
A way better constructed product.......Maybe not as cheap to produce but a better prouduct by far.I would be more likely to buy Obutto over this thing. Goodluck in your biz.venture though Rino.
euroes...
converts to 248 USDWay over priced.If Fanatec is considering using the for the devolopment of a sim pit for the 911 wheel....I would suggest that the contact http://www.obutto.com/home.html
A way better constructed product.......Maybe not as cheap to produce but a better prouduct by far.I would be more likely to buy Obutto over this thing. Goodluck in your biz.venture though Rino.
O.T. Just read this (all my posts) http://www.simjunkies.org/Forum/index.php?topic=7586.0 and send me PM about that.
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ROFL!Rinoreno, you're like a rhino that swoops down on anyone that mentions Obutto and tries to convince them to buy your product instead. Hysterical!
...but to get back on track
Has anyone noticed that the fanatec site is down?
Fanatec site is working for me.
Thier sites seem to be working for me as well.The more I use this wheel the more it grows on me.I only have issue w/pedals & software. I'm sure it will all be fixed.Great the way Thomas is active in all the different forums.Great customer relations so far.....The same can't be said about logitech....PS Rino, no disrespect but no way 250 of my hard earned money for ur product. Good luck with it. Not saying bad..Just not worth ur asking price for me.
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I'm beginning to get used to its feel, but one thing that keeps bugging me now is the missing thumb groves from the wheel.
I posted this issue a couple of times, but no one seems to comment on it, so im assuming its just me then. I feel like the wheel will be much more comfy if the inner stuff wasn't so far up forcing my hands to hold it higher up (2 & 10 o'clock) than directly on the side (3 and 9 o'clock).
Anyone notice this?
I posted this issue a couple of times, but no one seems to comment on it, so im assuming its just me then. I feel like the wheel will be much more comfy if the inner stuff wasn't so far up forcing my hands to hold it higher up (2 & 10 o'clock) than directly on the side (3 and 9 o'clock).
Anyone notice this?
As for weak dollar yes if you import wares from say UK or Euro countries you do suffer when your currency is weak.
The reno is not high priced it´s about half the price of the obutto or less if you include the shipping costs
Though I agree the obutto is better for my needs and is more bang for the buck. btw Skillracer I did mentioned the rinoseat not the Obutto that what was rinoseat commented on. As for the thumb grooves if it makes the grip thinner it would not be as good for my hands. Take the G25 with it´s thumb grooves it´s only 10 cm around versus the 911 wheels 12 cm around. I never loose touch with the 911 while steering where as the G25 has a lot of play in my hands. Makes the feel of formula racing that much better especially. Touring cars and such you can allow to loose touch with the steering wheel at times On the G25 since you can´t grip the wheel very well without getting cramps thumb grooves maybe helps but well you just don´t get a firm grip on that.
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I think I'll stick to G25. Logitech has long heritage in gaming industry, and IMO, G25 is worth every penny. True, the shifter feels light, but I've come across light shifters in real cars too. In addition, the pedal setup in LFS wasn't done quite correctly.. G25 DOES support separate axis' for throttle and brake.
And while playseat still looks about as sturdy as my setup ( old schooldesk and office chair FTW ), it looks unsecure. I don't have first hand experience about it, but it looks like our schools welders did it.. ( well, they did do the one that we use at school for sim racing, has Saab 900's seat and all ). But the thing is, that Playseats can be folded down and stored in smaller space, and those joints.. well, any joint, anywhere, is a thing that will loosen up. Using a pin? the metal will give away both in the pin and the hole where it is, sooner or later.. sooner, if the device is used a lot.
and now the wheel itself.. well, it looks like Porsche item, but it isn't. It gives first impression of '80s Ford Fiesta that has a GT-R badge on it. The bluetooth thing is nice if you have a gazillion USB ports, but hardcore gamer will rather spend his money on games, cola and pizza than batteries. True, the wires might look messy, but there's always a simple solution for that:
And what on earth was that flickering of the bar when clutch was used in LFS?
I'll add more of my thoughts later if they're wanted.
And while playseat still looks about as sturdy as my setup ( old schooldesk and office chair FTW
), it looks unsecure. I don't have first hand experience about it, but it looks like our schools welders did it.. ( well, they did do the one that we use at school for sim racing, has Saab 900's seat and all ). But the thing is, that Playseats can be folded down and stored in smaller space, and those joints.. well, any joint, anywhere, is a thing that will loosen up. Using a pin? the metal will give away both in the pin and the hole where it is, sooner or later.. sooner, if the device is used a lot.and now the wheel itself.. well, it looks like Porsche item, but it isn't. It gives first impression of '80s Ford Fiesta that has a GT-R badge on it. The bluetooth thing is nice if you have a gazillion USB ports, but hardcore gamer will rather spend his money on games, cola and pizza than batteries. True, the wires might look messy, but there's always a simple solution for that:
And what on earth was that flickering of the bar when clutch was used in LFS?
I'll add more of my thoughts later if they're wanted.
A friend of mine signed up for the test program for the porche wheel.
This is where they send you a wheel to test and if you like it you can buy it at a cheaper price.
As i already have a g25 wheel i was able to compare the two wheels by going around to his place at the weekend.
The porche wheel is very smooth when turning but the pedals and gearshift to me were not a good as the g25s.
The g25 pedals have a different feel on each pedal for the throttle,brake and clutch.
The pressure on the porche pedals felt the same on each pedal apart from the throttle which was a bit lighter to press.
I did not like the two bar mounting of the gearchange assembly either it is not solid enough.
My friend is sending it back to fanatec and getting a g25 after comparing them at my place.
This is where they send you a wheel to test and if you like it you can buy it at a cheaper price.
As i already have a g25 wheel i was able to compare the two wheels by going around to his place at the weekend.
The porche wheel is very smooth when turning but the pedals and gearshift to me were not a good as the g25s.
The g25 pedals have a different feel on each pedal for the throttle,brake and clutch.
The pressure on the porche pedals felt the same on each pedal apart from the throttle which was a bit lighter to press.
I did not like the two bar mounting of the gearchange assembly either it is not solid enough.
My friend is sending it back to fanatec and getting a g25 after comparing them at my place.
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Very interesting thread. I was very curious regarding the differences, advantages/disadvantages between the G25 and the Fanatec 911. Very informative. I have yet to watch any of the videos posted in this thread, as I am at work, and the computer here does not support sound. However, I am planning to check them out later at home on my 52" Sharp Aquos tv/monitor (don't be Jealous, I worked very hard to buy it....hahaha)
I have been an avid racing game van since I was a kid, and have purchased many different wheels. Everything from the horrible MadCatz wheels, to the DFP, to the MS Wireless wheel). I am planning on purchasing an Obutto seat, since they seem to be the preferred cockpit for racing enthusiasts on a budget. I have looked at the Playseats, but that pole between the legs can't be good, especially if you have a G25 and need to use your right foot for gas and brake, and your left for the clutch (besides left foot braking, of course). Has anyone run into this problem with the playseats? Also, those of you that do have the Obutto seat, is there any problems with compatibility with the g25 wheel and shifter combo?
Finally, I have to agree with most on here. The 911 wheel looks very chinsy and poorly put together next the G25 wheel. Of course this is just an aesthetic problem, but nonetheless, an issue for some. I really like the look of the G25. Not too sure about the new GT5 DFP with the horn button, and the look of this wheel is definitely rubbing me the wrong way. However, it all comes down to feel. So, until I get to see the videos, or try it out for myself, I'm thinking the G25 is on the top of my "Buying soon" list. That's my .02 cents.
I have been an avid racing game van since I was a kid, and have purchased many different wheels. Everything from the horrible MadCatz wheels, to the DFP, to the MS Wireless wheel). I am planning on purchasing an Obutto seat, since they seem to be the preferred cockpit for racing enthusiasts on a budget. I have looked at the Playseats, but that pole between the legs can't be good, especially if you have a G25 and need to use your right foot for gas and brake, and your left for the clutch (besides left foot braking, of course). Has anyone run into this problem with the playseats? Also, those of you that do have the Obutto seat, is there any problems with compatibility with the g25 wheel and shifter combo?
Finally, I have to agree with most on here. The 911 wheel looks very chinsy and poorly put together next the G25 wheel. Of course this is just an aesthetic problem, but nonetheless, an issue for some. I really like the look of the G25. Not too sure about the new GT5 DFP with the horn button, and the look of this wheel is definitely rubbing me the wrong way. However, it all comes down to feel. So, until I get to see the videos, or try it out for myself, I'm thinking the G25 is on the top of my "Buying soon" list. That's my .02 cents.
Trust me the 911 RS doesn´t look cheap in comparison to the G25 not the wheel As for the playseat this pole issue is a myth... You don´t see it and you don´t feel it. Still I would get an Obutto anyway for sure especially if I am in the US... Otherwise Rinoseat if you need something stowable and cheaper
As for the playseat this pole issue is a myth... You don´t see it and you don´t feel it. Still I would get an Obutto anyway for sure especially if I am in the US... Otherwise Rinoseat if you need something stowable and cheaper
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Yeah but a pole makes it hard to get in and out of the chair. You have to climb in, climb out, where as with the obutto, you just sit down and get up.
..back to topic.
Any one get return instructions for the 911 wheel? It's already the 22nd, I have mine packed back into the box, but don't know how to send it back.
..back to topic.
Any one get return instructions for the 911 wheel? It's already the 22nd, I have mine packed back into the box, but don't know how to send it back.
Have you tried the playseat? you can either push the wheel back or remove wheel and pedals... I don´t do that I am 187 stiff as a plank no real problem getting in and out .
The pole is really not an issue in any sense but I can understand why people think so when they haven´t tested it.
Skillracer didn´t you get the new email you can keep it until the 31st of march.
.The pole is really not an issue in any sense but I can understand why people think so when they haven´t tested it.
Skillracer didn´t you get the new email you can keep it until the 31st of march
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Done some fps testing now and yes there is a MAJOR performance hit running with the FANATEC wheel compared to the G25... 20-25 % on my computer as well in both GT Legends and rFactor. memory leak or other issue?
Also seriously just regarding the wheel itslef am I the only one that finds the G25 wheel unit horrible? Not exhaggerating it just feels horrible in just about every way now... The grip, the tiny wheel, the lack of resistance while turning, ffb deadzone, weak ffb, strange centering etc. Honestly without diplomacy am I the only one that feels like this? Sounds like most still preferr the G25 or are just more diplomatic then I can manage to be without lying to myself
Initial impressions was that there was just a different feel but really it´s much much more then that I feel now.
Also seriously just regarding the wheel itslef am I the only one that finds the G25 wheel unit horrible? Not exhaggerating it just feels horrible in just about every way now... The grip, the tiny wheel, the lack of resistance while turning, ffb deadzone, weak ffb, strange centering etc. Honestly without diplomacy am I the only one that feels like this? Sounds like most still preferr the G25 or are just more diplomatic then I can manage to be without lying to myself
Initial impressions was that there was just a different feel but really it´s much much more then that I feel now.
Done some fps testing now and yes there is a MAJOR performance hit running with the FANATEC wheel compared to the G25... 20-25 % on my computer as well in both GT Legends and rFactor. memory leak or other issue?
Also seriously just regarding the wheel itslef am I the only one that finds the G25 wheel unit horrible? Not exhaggerating it just feels horrible in just about every way now... The grip, the tiny wheel, the lack of resistance while turning, ffb deadzone, weak ffb, strange centering etc. Honestly without diplomacy am I the only one that feels like this? Sounds like most still preferr the G25 or are just more diplomatic then I can manage to be without lying to myself
Initial impressions was that there was just a different feel but really it´s much much more then that I feel now.
I have a g25 wheel and have not got a 20% hit when playing gtr2 and ffactor.
Also i find the g25 is amazing and i can not understand your comments about the FFB being weak and the strange steering effects you are getting.
I have also posted above that i have tried the fanatec wheel and i think that the g25 is much better in build quality.
But thats my personal opinion
If it was unclear a 20-25 % performance hit using the Fanatec wheel... Not sure if I understood your post correctly you get no performance hit with the 911 Turbo wheel?
Your opinion is fine of course I know several that is with you thus I feel like I am almost alone which totally loves the feel and force feedback of this wheel. Don´t know why but the more I race with the 911 Turbo wheel the more the G25 rattles, the looser the grip get, the ffb gets weaker and weaker and the bigger the deadzone...
Is there any anti fanboy pills this I am getting a fanatic fanatec fan it seems or I was just a G25 fanboy before
But I still hate the pedals so yin&yang
Your opinion is fine of course I know several that is with you thus I feel like I am almost alone which totally loves the feel and force feedback of this wheel
. Don´t know why but the more I race with the 911 Turbo wheel the more the G25 rattles, the looser the grip get, the ffb gets weaker and weaker and the bigger the deadzone... Is there any anti fanboy pills this I am getting a fanatic fanatec fan it seems or I was just a G25 fanboy before
But I still hate the pedals so yin&yang
If it was unclear a 20-25 % performance hit using the Fanatec wheel... Not sure if I understood your post correctly you get no performance hit with the 911 Turbo wheel?
Your opinion is fine of course I know several that is with you thus I feel like I am almost alone which totally loves the feel and force feedback of this wheel
Is there any anti fanboy pills this I am getting a fanatic fanatec fan it seems or I was just a G25 fanboy before
But I still hate the pedals so yin&yang
Ialso love this whel........'cept the dang pedals
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