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@Fanatec... can you give us a hint as to when you'll unveil this hardware?
Fanatec Teases PlayStation Related Piece of Hardware
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- stigsdaddy
Its adapter for all fanatec wheels to PS4. Buttons is brake calibrate (!), wheel degree and arrows is setup change maybe... Or not
I hope not, considering GIMX already enables Fanatec wheels to work on PS4, it'd be a huge waste of time and money for Fanatec to build their own adaptor. I also remember reading on Fanatec's website that Sony will not allow older peripherals to work anymore. I believe that is part of their deal for a new licenced wheel.
Yeah it's pretty easy and cheap to use GIMX. Unfortunately that's no longer an option for me, as my Fanatec wheel has developed some issues. I've had it two years, so I guess I've gotten my money's worth out of it, but it's build quality has been questionable since day one. When I first bolted it to my rig, the plastic on the base cracked, despite me only hand-tightening the bolts. Within a week the rim itself, also plastic, cracked. It then quickly developed a calibration issue (within two months of buying it) that weirdly resolved itself after a couple of weeks, then the paddles both lost their click, and felt a bit slack, and just recently one of the belts has started jumping teeth, which has led to me needing to use really low FFB to prevent it. Like I said, I've had it long enough to get my money's worth out of it, so I'm not complaining.
I don't think I'll buy another Fanatec wheel, at least for a while, because while their top range stuff looks really nice, it's ridiculously expensive. Plus, despite Thrustmaster having a less than stellar reliability track record, Fanatec's is no better. Therefore I'll just buy a T300, and get a CPX adaptor so I can use my CSPs on it (because there's no way I'm using the pedals that come with a T300 lol). At least the T300 is PS4 compatible, and out-performs anything even remotely close to it in price. I'll just make sure to get an extended warranty for it lol.
Yep, I definitely agree, and that's why the PS4 will most likely be my last console.
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- thepatriots
Consider the value of the YEARS of playing AC, pCARS, DiRT Rally, rF2, etc on PC with your existing wheel between GT6 and the first "sim" on PS4 (pCARS... which was eh) and then GT Sport.
$400 PS4, ~$50/yr PS+, >$300 new wheel, oh PS4.5 Pro now what?, $60 games, Etc. You've just spent $800 with very little seat time to show for it. A PC will always be more, but you will always get more.
If you already had a PS4 compatible wheel, you are right. But those hanging on to their G27 or 911/CSR...
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I don't doubt that, but the G27 and G29 are popular for a reason, and that is the price for pedals and a wheel. Now if Fanatec had a wheel in that price range, would Logitech have released a 10 year old product and slapped G29 on it with a few extra buttons? Or thought - **** we need to step up our game or we ain't gonna sell one damn wheel?
They may not earn much on PS4s but they do earn over 800 million on PSN sub fees.
There may be millions of PS4s out there but this generation has certainly pissed off a lot of gamers and alienated them. It's very likely the last generation I buy.
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@ Moderators; Sorry for the de-rail. I'll take my reprimands in PM.
@Fanatec... So you are making an official adapter for the PlayStation, how about throwing us Xbox guys a bone with a similar adapter? The teaser pic would look great in "The Green Nobody wanted" and sporting a Xbox decal. What do you say?
@Fanatec... So you are making an official adapter for the PlayStation, how about throwing us Xbox guys a bone with a similar adapter? The teaser pic would look great in "The Green Nobody wanted" and sporting a Xbox decal. What do you say?
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Why would any of the console makers allow somebody to make an adapter and even give them a license for that?
It is interesting that people have no problem to buy a new console and also new games but when it comes to peripherals it should always be backwards compatible although this was never really the case (with a very few exceptions).
The consoles are all about plug&play and the best way to make sure that this is assured is to offer complete packages of console, peripherals and games with every generation. It was always like that and will always be.
A lot of people buy a console because they just want to play something. The PC is way more flexible but this comes at a price.
We are making sure that you have to replace as little as possible with every console generation by making most peripherals as compatible as possible. And we do not force people to buy pedals if they already have some for example.
And to make that very clear. Our preference would be to have one wheel which works on any platform and without limitations or restrictions now and in future.
It is interesting that people have no problem to buy a new console and also new games but when it comes to peripherals it should always be backwards compatible although this was never really the case (with a very few exceptions).
The consoles are all about plug&play and the best way to make sure that this is assured is to offer complete packages of console, peripherals and games with every generation. It was always like that and will always be.
A lot of people buy a console because they just want to play something. The PC is way more flexible but this comes at a price.
We are making sure that you have to replace as little as possible with every console generation by making most peripherals as compatible as possible. And we do not force people to buy pedals if they already have some for example.
And to make that very clear. Our preference would be to have one wheel which works on any platform and without limitations or restrictions now and in future.
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That is flat out untrue! The wheels that worked with driving games on PS2 worked with driving games on PS3, & as someone who lived through that era & used the same wheel on both consoles I was shocked when all this forced incompatibility licensing stuff kicked off with PS4.
My Logitech Mediaboard Pro made for PS3 works fine on PS4, but hey there's no point deliberately disabling that as they probably won't make much money on it. Better to disable really expensive peripherals & browbeat people into buying replacement ones.
Going from PS3 to PS4 there are huge benefits, that's why people are happy to buy a new console. But going from a G25 to a G29, like many people are being cajoled into, there are virtualy none.
Replacing very cheap peripherals like keyboards etc might be something most people can afford, but replacing very expensive sim racing equipment, that oftentimes costs more than the console itself, is not. I find your argument in this regard to be preposterous.
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Personally, I have a CSW V2, V2 peddles, and 2 wheel rims. If a PS4 specific licensed wheel rim is on the not too distant future...very excited. =) If a new wheel base that is PS4 specific that is as good if not better than a V2 or V2.5... I'm still excited.
I'm just hoping this new teased product is on the higher end of the spectrum. I think there is enough market demand for those of us who like to use high end stuff on our consoles.
I'm just hoping this new teased product is on the higher end of the spectrum. I think there is enough market demand for those of us who like to use high end stuff on our consoles.
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You think people are really going to be fine with spending £300 + on a new wheel set up with every new concole? What about the people buying a wheel for GTsport which would mean maybe 2 years before they possibly have to buy a new wheel for the PS5?
So far in this generation- Sony wins, Fanatec wins, PS4 current Fanatec owners lose. Why didn't anyone consider these guys?
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We are winning? It looks like we are pretty late to the game.
We certainly would have been very happy if we just could have sold our existing wheels from the beginning and I would like to mention that Fanatec is the only company which at least tried and partially succeeded to make old products compatible. Some of them were already discontinued and there was absolutely no commercial benefit for us to make them compatible.
What did the others?
We certainly would have been very happy if we just could have sold our existing wheels from the beginning and I would like to mention that Fanatec is the only company which at least tried and partially succeeded to make old products compatible. Some of them were already discontinued and there was absolutely no commercial benefit for us to make them compatible.
What did the others?
Thrustmaster T500 is still working with ps4 and it seems that it will also be in the future. That's pretty much the only exception left.. I assume they have some kind of special deal/relationship with Sony that makes it possible?
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Yes, and again it is Sony and MS that deserve to be flamed for pulling these tricks, wheel manufacturers have to abide to them so I don't get why Thomas is getting all this heat for that again now. Besides this discussion has been ongoing since we learned it was going to be this way in 2013.
If there's one thing that you can blame wheel manufacturers for it's when they rebrand the same wheel and sell it to you again like Logitech did.
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Thrustmaster, and logitech was one of the few manufactures that had licensed wheels to the ps3, and if u look at the T500RS this was a GT branded wheel, and is of course up to polyphony to support it, the t500rs doesn't work in the PS4 menus, u have to use the DS4 to navigate.
in my experience i had a madcats wheel to PS1, that didn't work in the ps2, to the PS2 i had the Logitech MOMO force wheel, and that of course didn't work in the ps3, so i had to buy the Logitech G25. and the story goes on.
so it's no news, just bite the dust and buy new gear at every generation change,
in my experience i had a madcats wheel to PS1, that didn't work in the ps2, to the PS2 i had the Logitech MOMO force wheel, and that of course didn't work in the ps3, so i had to buy the Logitech G25. and the story goes on.
so it's no news, just bite the dust and buy new gear at every generation change,
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People are touching another issue here that is also becoming a little big problem and that's how fast very expensive products become obsolete.
Before we had to deal with the tremendously annoying issue of ps1 games not working on ps2 and so on and so on but when compared with the peripheral new mega issue that was simply nothing.
Yes, I had to sell for a third of its price my beloved G27 to buy my almost 400 Canadian dollars T300RS that comes with 🤬 pedals so I also had to buy the T3PA-pro that was another $400,00.
I will go nuts and buy Fanatec if it becomes available for the PS4 unless it comes with the rumour that will last, the most, two years.
Before we had to deal with the tremendously annoying issue of ps1 games not working on ps2 and so on and so on but when compared with the peripheral new mega issue that was simply nothing.
Yes, I had to sell for a third of its price my beloved G27 to buy my almost 400 Canadian dollars T300RS that comes with 🤬 pedals so I also had to buy the T3PA-pro that was another $400,00.
I will go nuts and buy Fanatec if it becomes available for the PS4 unless it comes with the rumour that will last, the most, two years.
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This is great news for myself. I was just about to buy a wheel to go with my new chair. Depending on the price this would be definitely a serious option! I was going to buy the G29 due to being cheaper than the T300RS and having decent peddles out of the box. Also it would be my first wheel.
Hopefully news and price will be released soon as I doubt I'll be able to wait too long.
Hopefully news and price will be released soon as I doubt I'll be able to wait too long.
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Fanatec win because you get to sell new wheels to those that can't use their current ones. Even I'm waiting to see what you guys release this year before I buy a new wheel ( I'd rather just go for the best wheel available on console).
Or instead of mindlessly giving the thumbs up to the console market getting greedier and greedier, don't buy new gear with every generation change ( can't believe you're suggesting this like everyone has money to splash), but give the finger to the next generation change and buy a PC, keep your wheel, buy many of the great racing games. Profit.
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As I said in my post you quoted I was refering to "most people", not myself, it's the principal of the matter & how it affects all users of obselete wheels that is of impotance. I presume that you're being sarcastic about my "expert bartering skills", & if so that's not a very nice thing to say.
Long time lurker but I've finally signed up just because of the stupidity of some of the comments in this thread.
The person using the Mac as an excuse not to play sims on PC as if that makes any sense
. The majority of the PC library can't be played on a Mac (with stock OS) either because they aren't built to run on Linux and cost clearly isn't the issue because you've already paid over the odds spec wise for a Mac.
Now onto the whole Fanatec are evil money grabbers, do you really think selling sim gear costing more than a console itself is a lucrative business model?
It's undeniable that it benefits both hardware manufactures and console manufactures to make hardware obsolete, it's what Sony/MS/Nintendo's entire business models are based around but that is only true for low cost items. Before the recession consoles were sold at a loss and then money was recouped on games and peripherals hence why every console cycle you have to buy all new peripherals again even though controllers have barely changed since PS2/Xbox days. Now it's slightly changed and they sell for at least a small profit so that they are making money from day one and also why they are no longer cutting edge tech as they aren't willing to subsidise anymore.
It's also why consoles games cost more than PC games because they charge a license fee to release games on the platform (although the big publishers being the greedy bastards they are charge the same prices on PC for extra profit).
Anyway back to the point Fanatec gear is a niche within a niche, the majority of people don't spend €/$1500 on a full rig to play on one console so it is not in their best interest to force customers to buy a completely new rig. The optimum method is what Microsoft allowed where they just sell you a compatible wheel hub and that's all you need to buy, whilst keeping the rest of the system. Existing customers are far more likely to buy a new rim than a whole new system which in turn means they are more likely to buy the console which allows such compatibility, that is a win/win for everybody.
If Sony had allowed the same system then we wouldn't have this issue but they did not and do you really think they would have let PD (which they own) make an unofficial wheel compatible with GT Sport, of course not which means the biggest Sony sim wouldn't have worked and if you think otherwise how's that Driveclub support going?!
You need to get your heads out of the console manufactures 🤬 and realise they are the ones 🤬 you, they are the ones with the keys to their walled garden and if you don't like it then a PC is the only option, plug & play has a price just as openness does. If you really want to play GT well then you'll have to just accept it but at least blame the right people rather than raging at Fanatec for something they have no control over.
You're lucky I'm not the Fanatec rep because I would have just told you the obvious that you know nothing about how the console business works and to jog on although those may not have been my exact words.
I only hope that your ignorance and negativity doesn't unduly effect anyone at Fanatec.
EDIT: I also forgot to say that it makes even less sense to get angry at Fanatec when you consider that unlike Logitech and Thrustmaster their wheels have always been better than the last. They aren't just trying to sell you a new wheel just because a new console has come out but it's actually a better wheel first and foremost which just supports the current hardware (when they allow it through licensing).
In the case of the Logitech they actually stopped production off all game controllers a few years back and even their Harmony remote line because of loses before changing their mind and releasing a new brand logo with new peripherals so it's no surprise they just repackaged the G27 when they have no R&D behind it. These are all things you should consider when making sweeping statements based on nothing.
The person using the Mac as an excuse not to play sims on PC as if that makes any sense
. The majority of the PC library can't be played on a Mac (with stock OS) either because they aren't built to run on Linux and cost clearly isn't the issue because you've already paid over the odds spec wise for a Mac.Now onto the whole Fanatec are evil money grabbers, do you really think selling sim gear costing more than a console itself is a lucrative business model?
It's undeniable that it benefits both hardware manufactures and console manufactures to make hardware obsolete, it's what Sony/MS/Nintendo's entire business models are based around but that is only true for low cost items. Before the recession consoles were sold at a loss and then money was recouped on games and peripherals hence why every console cycle you have to buy all new peripherals again even though controllers have barely changed since PS2/Xbox days. Now it's slightly changed and they sell for at least a small profit so that they are making money from day one and also why they are no longer cutting edge tech as they aren't willing to subsidise anymore.
It's also why consoles games cost more than PC games because they charge a license fee to release games on the platform (although the big publishers being the greedy bastards they are charge the same prices on PC for extra profit).
Anyway back to the point Fanatec gear is a niche within a niche, the majority of people don't spend €/$1500 on a full rig to play on one console so it is not in their best interest to force customers to buy a completely new rig. The optimum method is what Microsoft allowed where they just sell you a compatible wheel hub and that's all you need to buy, whilst keeping the rest of the system. Existing customers are far more likely to buy a new rim than a whole new system which in turn means they are more likely to buy the console which allows such compatibility, that is a win/win for everybody.
If Sony had allowed the same system then we wouldn't have this issue but they did not and do you really think they would have let PD (which they own) make an unofficial wheel compatible with GT Sport, of course not which means the biggest Sony sim wouldn't have worked and if you think otherwise how's that Driveclub support going?!
You need to get your heads out of the console manufactures 🤬 and realise they are the ones 🤬 you, they are the ones with the keys to their walled garden and if you don't like it then a PC is the only option, plug & play has a price just as openness does. If you really want to play GT well then you'll have to just accept it but at least blame the right people rather than raging at Fanatec for something they have no control over.
You're lucky I'm not the Fanatec rep because I would have just told you the obvious that you know nothing about how the console business works and to jog on although those may not have been my exact words.
I only hope that your ignorance and negativity doesn't unduly effect anyone at Fanatec.
EDIT: I also forgot to say that it makes even less sense to get angry at Fanatec when you consider that unlike Logitech and Thrustmaster their wheels have always been better than the last. They aren't just trying to sell you a new wheel just because a new console has come out but it's actually a better wheel first and foremost which just supports the current hardware (when they allow it through licensing).
In the case of the Logitech they actually stopped production off all game controllers a few years back and even their Harmony remote line because of loses before changing their mind and releasing a new brand logo with new peripherals so it's no surprise they just repackaged the G27 when they have no R&D behind it. These are all things you should consider when making sweeping statements based on nothing.
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I'd think most people plan that at some point their hardware is going to become obsolete, it's just a way of life with technology. The G25/27 has been going for what, 7-8 years now? I'd say that's a pretty good run before becoming obsolete in today's throw-away-economy. But at some point it's time it's going to be time to upgrade, whether that's due to actual obsolescence or forced obsolescence it's going to happen. In the last 8 years I've probably replaced 80-90% of all tech in my house, including 100% of my sim racing gear.
Nope, I was being dead serious. If you can score a PS4, three wheels, and a set of shifters for less than $40 that's pretty freaking impressive and I'd presume you could score a decent PC through the same channels.
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He does have some superior bartering skills I have to admit.
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My bad, sorry!
I did look into it, but the way I went about getting the other stuff wouldn't work as well with PC parts. I decided it would be too hard.Similar threads
