Fastest Stock Race Car Times at Circuit de la Sarthe 1

[MadMax]

I also was amazed to see how much faster the JGTC300 Celica is than the rest of those models.

Maybe you should sign up for SuperGT Season 6 with it.

I may have done some mistakes updating the post 1 this time as I'm sick and got fever,
you are allowed to point out if I did mess up something.
(I was about to start chasing your times this weekend but seems I'm not in the condition to)

the headache is getting milder, I just had to do this:

RE Amemiya AMEMIYA ASPARADRINK RX7 (JGTC) '04 --- 4'02.552 --- MadMax86
Splits: 35.226 - 1'16.410 - 1'50.389 - 2'18.405 - 2'54.325 - 3'30.313

also did this as a practice run for WRS week 182

Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI Race Car '93 --- 3'54.377 --- MadMax86
Splits: 34.121 - 1'13.722 - 1'46.374 - 2'13.535 - 2'47.824 - 3'23.151

EDITx2 : Post One updated again twice

 

[Austin343]

Darn, I only just saw those. You just had to inch past me in the RX-7, didn't you? Out of curiosity, how did your splits match against mine? Tomorrow I'll have to go after them again; I've been busy this week, too. But for now, here's the rest of Honda and Mazda.

Mazda RX-7 LM Race Car '01 --- 3'38.762 --- Austin343
Splits: 32.327 - 1'09.840 - 1'39.830 - 2'05.058 - 2'37.097 - 3'09.194

Mazda RX-8 Concept LM Race Car '01 --- 3'40.860 --- Austin343
Splits: 32.171 - 1'09.779 - 1'40.335 - 2'05.850 - 2'38.049 - 3'10.538

Honda Mobil 1 NSX (JGTC) '01 --- 3'45.627 --- Austin343
Splits: 33.291 - 1'11.790 - 1'42.758 - 2'08.521 - 2'41.665 - 3'15.338

Honda S2000 LM Race Car '01 --- 4'01.855 --- Austin343 (Lovely car, and sounds great, too)
Splits: 35.687 - 1'16.775 - 1'50.388 - 2'18.559 - 2'54.441 - 3'30.159

Mazda Mazda6 Touring Car '02 --- 4'11.062 --- Austin343
Splits: 36.933 - 1'19.849 - 1'54.498 - 2'23.437 - 3'00.503 - 3'38.062 (Yes, exactly 33 seconds in the last sector)

Honda INTEGRA TYPE R Touring Car '02 --- 4'20.154 --- Austin343
Splits: 38.519 - 1'22.943 - 1'58.979 - 2'28.535 - 3'06.385 - 3'44.959

Honda MUGEN MOTUL CIVIC Si Race Car '87 --- 4'30.466 --- Austin343
Splits: 39.788 - 1'25.983 - 2'03.384 - 2'34.098 - 3'13.962 - 3'54.279

Honda Gathers Drider CIVIC Race Car '98 --- 4'44.115 --- Austin343
Splits: 41.537 - 1'29.660 - 2'09.765 - 2'42.341 - 3'24.755 - 4'07.376

 

[Austin343]

Sorry for the double post; I think it's okay.

Here's all the Mitsubishis. "Only" Nissan left. I think I'll have to attack your two records tomorrow instead.

Mitsubishi FTO Super Touring Car '97 --- 3'48.466 --- Austin343
Splits: 33.142 - 1'12.264 - 1'43.636 - 2'10.019 - 2'43.337 - 3'17.186

Mitsubishi CZ-3 Tarmac Rally Car '02 --- 4'09.680 --- Austin343 (Shift really short)
Splits: 36.383 - 1'18.695 - 1'53.325 - 2'21.890 - 2'58.501 - 3'35.690

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Super Rally Car '03 --- 4'10.231 --- Austin343
Splits: 36.573 - 1'19.306 - 1'54.221 - 2'22.856 - 2'59.376 - 3'37.216

Mitsubishi STARION 4WD Rally Car '84 --- 4'13.606 --- Austin343
Splits: 37.820 - 1'20.751 - 1'55.379 - 2'24.098 - 3'01.132 - 3'38.840

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV Rally Car '97 --- 4'18.480 --- Austin343 (I don't really understand why it has 16-17 HP less than all the other rally cars that weigh the same as it. )
Splits: 38.083 - 1'22.007 - 1'58.076 - 2'28.107 - 3'06.045 - 3'44.113

Mitsubishi PAJERO Rally Raid Car '85 --- 4'42.633 --- Austin343 (Suspiciously good handling - if this is the "real driving simulator," then shouldn't this thing roll over in any high speed turn? )
Splits: 40.646 - 1'29.028 - 2'09.117 - 2'42.407 - 3'24.692 - 4'06.570

Mitsubishi Lancer 1600 GSR Rally Car '74 --- 4'43.912 --- Austin343
Splits: 40.879 - 1'29.384 - 2'09.385 - 2'42.544 - 3'25.130 - 4'07.433

Mitsubishi PAJERO Evolution Rally Raid Car '03 --- 4'45.359 --- Austin343 (Very weird to drive - it acts like it has low levels of aids on when I definitely had them off)
Splits: 42.415 - 1'30.155 - 2'10.127 - 2'43.313 - 3'25.658 - 4'08.143

EDIT: Two more records.

RE Amemiya AMEMIYA ASPARADRINK RX7 (JGTC) '04 --- 4'00.636 --- Austin343
Splits: 35.076 - 1'16.320 - 1'50.090 - 2'17.987 - 2'53.705 - 3'29.477

Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI Race Car '93 --- 3'53.416 --- Austin343
Splits: 33.860 - 1'13.978 - 1'46.308 - 2'13.307 - 2'47.599 - 3'22.179

By the way, you're mistaken in the first post: The Mazda BP Falken D1GP (or whatever) comes with sport/normal tires, as do all the other D1GP cars.

 

[MadMax]

Sorry for the double post; I think it's okay.

Here's all the Mitsubishis. "Only" Nissan left. I think I'll have to attack your two records tomorrow instead.

EDIT: Two more records.

RE Amemiya AMEMIYA ASPARADRINK RX7 (JGTC) '04 --- 4'00.636 --- Austin343
Splits: 35.076 - 1'16.320 - 1'50.090 - 2'17.987 - 2'53.705 - 3'29.477
MM:Splits: 35.226 - 1'16.410 - 1'50.389 - 2'18.405 - 2'54.325 - 3'30.313

Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI Race Car '93 --- 3'53.416 --- Austin343
Splits: 33.860 - 1'13.978 - 1'46.308 - 2'13.307 - 2'47.599 - 3'22.179
MM:Splits: 34.121 - 1'13.722 - 1'46.374 - 2'13.535 - 2'47.824 - 3'23.151

By the way, you're mistaken in the first post: The Mazda BP Falken D1GP (or whatever) comes with sport/normal tires, as do all the other D1GP cars.

Finally some data on the splits to compare. As mentioned before, I'm strong on the 1st half
I was alredy waiting,when would you notice the riddle I plased on 1st post


Post 1 updated

 

[Austin343]

First half of Nissan... Oh! I just remembered, PAL has a Fairlady Z Concept LM that is much more powerful than what we in NTSC have, a 350Z Concept LM (500 HP, 1120 KG). You should keep both cars on the list, I think.

Nissan GT-R Concept LM Race Car '02 --- 3'31.047 --- Austin343 (Nice sound, but the handling is a bit weird.)
Splits: 30.833 - 1'07.244 - 1'36.241 - 2'00.376 - 2'31.175 - 3'01.988

Nissan 350Z Concept LM Race Car '02 --- 3'36.739 --- Austin343 (Love the sound!)
Splits: 32.160 - 1'09.268 - 1'39.163 - 2'03.948 - 2'35.260 - 3'07.351

Nissan C-WEST RAZO SILVIA (JGTC) '01 --- 4'07.675 --- Austin343 (Nice car, but it looks pathetic nest to the other JGTC300s.)
Splits: 36.438 - 1'18.512 - 1'52.838 - 2'21.371 - 2'57.919 - 3'35.118

Nissan 240RS Rally Car '85 --- 4'19.074 --- Austin343
Splits: 37.970 - 1'21.992 - 1'58.193 - 2'28.193 (Exactly 30 seconds!) - 3'06.417 - 3'45.207

Nissan mm-R Cup Car '01 --- 4'59.362 --- Austin343
Splits: 43.302 - 1'35.200 - 2'17.231 - 2'51.808 - 3'36.858 - 4'21.059

Nissan BLUEBIRD Rally Car (510) '69 --- 5'07.700 --- Austin343 (A sort of lazily sliding back end that scrubs off a lot of speed if you're not careful.)
Splits: 44.334 - 1'36.457 - 2'20.280 - 2'56.546 - 3'43.181 - 4'29.241

 

[MadMax]

First half of Nissan... Oh! I just remembered, PAL has a Fairlady Z Concept LM that is much more powerful than what we in NTSC have, a 350Z Concept LM (500 HP, 1120 KG). You should keep both cars on the list, I think.

The Fairlady Z Concept LM has 608 BHP in PAL version.

I've applied your suggestion of having them boght listed separatedly in the 1st post.
I also added the specifying colored marker for NTSC and PAL in the list.
As I've newer countered this before I assume there are other cars with similar differentiality of Power or Weight aswell.

I wonder if this has ever been tested, but if hasn't would you be interested to
make a list of cars with me about Weight and Power shown in race menu for a database on this subject?

post 1 updated

 

[Austin343]

I'm fairly sure that there are only two or three discrepancies (or at least significant ones), one being the Fairlady/350Z. I just remembered that another is the Oreca Viper, which has a distinct edge in NTSC, but not in the stats, for some reason. Look at the thread for WRS Week 76 to see how the two versions differ for that car. And actually... it's never been mentioned, but the results of WRS 113 look suspicious enough for the Mercedes 190E DTM to have an undocumented NTSC advantage, as well. Besides that, I think they are all the same, thankfully, unless the rumor that PAL is naturally "harder" or "slower" than NTSC for all cars is founded (and I highly doubt it).

 

[Austin343]

Finished! There are still all those JGTC and rally cars that I didn't bother to try, so you can still get some new entries. Now it's up to you to keep the challenge going and the times dropping. Oh, and you forgot a bracket in [/color] on the Mobil 1 NSX entry.

Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car '98 --- 3'14.247 --- Austin343 (Actually surprisingly easy to drive.)
Splits: 28.763 - 1'01.701 - 1'27.876 - 1'50.108 - 2'17.960 - 2'46.990

Nissan MOTUL PITWORK Z (JGTC) '04 --- 3'38.929 --- Austin343
Splits: 31.935 - 1'09.372 - 1'39.628 - 2'05.029 - 2'37.281 - 3'09.341

Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R (JGTC) '03 --- 3'39.740 --- Austin343
Splits: 32.255 - 1'09.902 - 1'40.061 - 2'05.003 - 2'36.755 - 3'09.400

Nissan XANAVI HIROTO GT-R (JGTC) '01 --- 3'43.748 --- Austin343 (Understeering pig. )
Splits: 32.423 - 1'10.589 - 1'41.588 - 2'07.413 - 2'39.730 - 3'13.208

Nissan PENNZOIL Nismo GT-R (JGTC) '99 --- 3'44.266 --- Austin343 (Too heavy to be competitive)
Splits: 32.840 - 1'11.209 - 1'41.891 - 2'07.472 - 2'40.195 - 3'13.265

Nissan FALKEN GT-R Race Car '04 --- 3'50.302 --- Austin343
Splits: 33.502 - 1'12.694 - 1'44.576 - 2'11.402 - 2'44.892 - 3'19.593

Nissan CALSONIC SKYLINE GT-R Race Car '93 --- 3'52.333 --- Austin343 (Quite piggish, with overly short gearing.)
Splits: 33.965 - 1'13.919 - 1'46.221 - 2'12.674 - 2'46.516 - 3'20.595

 

[MadMax]

Finished! There are still all those JGTC and rally cars that I didn't bother to try, so you can still get some new entries. Now it's up to you to keep the challenge going and the times dropping. Oh, and you forgot a bracket in [/color] on the Mobil 1 NSX entry.

Congratulations, that makes total of 100 records on record board!
Also thanks for pointing out the mistake I did 👍

I'm fairly sure that there are only two or three discrepancies (or at least significant ones), one being the Fairlady/350Z. I just remembered that another is the Oreca Viper, which has a distinct edge in NTSC, but not in the stats, for some reason. Look at the thread for WRS Week 76 to see how the two versions differ for that car. And actually... it's never been mentioned, but the results of WRS 113 look suspicious enough for the Mercedes 190E DTM to have an undocumented NTSC advantage, as well. Besides that, I think they are all the same, thankfully, unless the rumor that PAL is naturally "harder" or "slower" than NTSC for all cars is founded (and I highly doubt it).

I'm thinking about dividing the Oreca Viper also into NTSC and PAL categories.


Post one updated.

 

[Austin343]

Well... actually, I decided to go for the 2'xx.xxx lap that had eluded me so far, in the FGT. I only realized when I tried it for the second time just how slow that 3'00.7 lap really was!

Formula Gran Turismo '04 --- 2'55.753 --- Austin343
Splits: 25.360 - 54.841 - 1'19.138 - 1'39.577 - 2'05.335 - 2'31.499

Most of this lap was quite good (not perfect, of course), but the end was horrendous - I got two wheels in the sand out of the last chicane, and then proceeded to wheelspin at a snail's pace all the way to the finish line, probably losing me a full second. Better than my previous fastest, though, where I actually spun out across the finish line! So there's plenty to get, still. Nevertheless, I'm happy to upload a video if you'd like to see how I attacked the track.

 

[MadMax]

Well... actually, I decided to go for the 2'xx.xxx lap that had eluded me so far, in the FGT. I only realized when I tried it for the second time just how slow that 3'00.7 lap really was!

Formula Gran Turismo '04 --- 2'55.753 --- Austin343
Splits: 25.360 - 54.841 - 1'19.138 - 1'39.577 - 2'05.335 - 2'31.499

Most of this lap was quite good (not perfect, of course), but the end was horrendous - I got two wheels in the sand out of the last chicane, and then proceeded to wheelspin at a snail's pace all the way to the finish line, probably losing me a full second. Better than my previous fastest, though, where I actually spun out across the finish line! So there's plenty to get, still. Nevertheless, I'm happy to upload a video if you'd like to see how I attacked the track.

I'd love to see this happen, sound like you did incredible lap


Post one updated

 

[Austin343]

Okay, "snail's pace" was an exaggeration, but it was very slow. Maybe it was actually one half or three quarters of a second that I lost, but that's still a lot, considering how little there is to find around the track. http://s400.photobucket.com/albums/pp82/austin6068/?action=view&current=CIMG3960.flv

 

[MadMax]

It's been awhile since the last post in this thread,

There has been a change in reguirements to post a entry to this thread:

EDIT:The leaderboar has been extended to include all entrys from all users, no posting splits required now on.

Short, more entrys viewable in the list and no longer nessessary to beat the previous record set by other another user.
Also entry form lenght is cut by half, for example see below.


I've ran some cars last night:

Jaguar XJ220 LM Race Car '01 --- 3'45.827 --- MadMax86

Jaguar XJR-9 Race Car '88 --- 3'09.603 --- MadMax86

Lister Storm V12 Race Car '99 --- 3'46.536 --- MadMax86

Renault 5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car '85 --- 4'05.058 --- MadMax86

Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Rally Car '85 --- 4'08.507 --- MadMax86

Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Evo2 Rally Car '86 --- 3'54.858 --- MadMax86

Volkswagen Lupo Cup Car '00 --- 5'08.390 --- MadMax86

Volkswagen Lupo GTI Cup Car '03 --- 5'06.812 --- MadMax86

Pagani Zonda LM Race Car '01 --- 3'30.716 --- MadMax86

Hyundai Accent Rally Car '03 --- 4'18.244 --- MadMax86

Spoon Fit Race Car '03 --- 5'07.720 --- MadMax86

Spoon S2000 Race Car '00 --- 4'24.244 --- MadMax86




MadMax

 

[MadMax]

In a few days (I sayd few) I'll run the 24h race to obtain Bentley speed 8 and give it a go.



MadMax

 

[Flynn77]

Count me in for participation of stock Sarthe times.

 

[Flynn77]

I'd like to turn in this pair of pathetic times. Apparently this thread isn't for me.

Sauber Mercedes C 9 Race Car '89 --- 3'20.950 --- Flynn77
MINOLTA Toyota 88C-V Race Car '89 --- 3'22.170 --- Flynn77

Maybe I'll come back once I'm done crying...

 

[MadMax]

Flynn77 , I've added your times to post 1.



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