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- BrandonW77
That's normally my honor but I've been too busy stinking up 2nd place. 
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- MC-Chase
After a time in qually I was very happy with, my first race couldn't really have gone much worse! Have to apologise to @thlogan again for not dealing with my slipstream properly. I've noticed since I've been playing GT6 less I'm really loosing some racecraft ability 
. Might have to kick in a few more races with actual people during the week to claw it back.
Either way it was good if not somewhat lonely racing, the GTO was a lot of fun - looking forward to La Sathe!
. Might have to kick in a few more races with actual people during the week to claw it back.Either way it was good if not somewhat lonely racing, the GTO was a lot of fun - looking forward to La Sathe!
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- thlogan
After a time in qually I was very happy with, my first race couldn't really have gone much worse! Have to apologise to @thlogan again for not dealing with my slipstream properly. I've noticed since I've been playing GT6 less I'm really loosing some racecraft ability
Either way it was good if not somewhat lonely racing, the GTO was a lot of fun - looking forward to La Sathe!
@MC-Chase apology accepted, but not really necessary. I struggled to find the optimum braking point heading into the new (old) chicanes with or without a slipstream.
I come from a league that ran predominantly RH tires, so I am adjusting to running with less grip. I still am amazed how you all can toss and slide so quickly around some corners. At least my tire wear is very good. I think we should run a race with tire wear set at silly fast.
Anyway, I'm just an old, slow guy, who enjoys competing regardless where I finish.
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- turnupdaheat
On that, if I had one minor complaint it would be about the unannounced tyre wear setting change from fast to normal for the second race. I ran my first practice laps with this combo just in the hour before we started racing and it was only when I joined the lobby that I realised we were to run on SM rather than the SH I had been (my bad for not reading the OP properly 
) so the first race was my learning time with the right equipment.
After that, I was hoping to be a bit more involved in the mix up front in race 2 but while in 3rd place I made a stupid mistake at the Roggia chicane on lap 2 which dropped me well back from the leaders. So from there I decided to concentrate on managing my tyre wear in the hope of closing towards the end but as the race progressed I ended up thinking I was managing it too well and the gap to that serial tyre eater in the lead wasn't dropping
. If I had realised the wear rate had been changed I would have pushed a bit more but then again it probably wouldn't have made any difference to the end result.
It was a funny old combo in that it led to a very strung out field but well done to Sagaris and Chase for the wins. Keep the faith Brandon, that elusive will come. If this were a league your amazingly consistent 2nd place finishes would have you in the lead. 👍
I'm really looking forward to a good old blast around La Sarthe with the screaming 458. I'll just have to make sure I practice on the right tyres this time!
) so the first race was my learning time with the right equipment.After that, I was hoping to be a bit more involved in the mix up front in race 2 but while in 3rd place I made a stupid mistake at the Roggia chicane on lap 2 which dropped me well back from the leaders. So from there I decided to concentrate on managing my tyre wear in the hope of closing towards the end but as the race progressed I ended up thinking I was managing it too well and the gap to that serial tyre eater in the lead wasn't dropping
. If I had realised the wear rate had been changed I would have pushed a bit more but then again it probably wouldn't have made any difference to the end result.It was a funny old combo in that it led to a very strung out field but well done to Sagaris and Chase for the wins. Keep the faith Brandon, that elusive will come. If this were a league your amazingly consistent 2nd place finishes would have you in the lead. 👍
I'm really looking forward to a good old blast around La Sarthe with the screaming 458. I'll just have to make sure I practice on the right tyres this time!
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- turnupdaheat
I only ran about 10 or 15 laps and it was slippy alright. I got down to a 1.54 so knowing guys were running 1.50s and 1.49s I thought I was going to be waay off the pace come race time.
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- BrandonW77
Yeah, I called an audible there after nearly loosing it several times on the last two laps of the first race. My tires were at 8's and 9's which doesn't sound bad but the thing was an angry monster and I couldn't imagine surviving another 15 minutes as they continued to degrade (and I figured the back of the field would become an oversteer party). Some cars only work well on fresh tires, this is one. In my testing the deg wasn't as bad, but factor in the traffic battles and increased speed due to drafting and they went to s:censored:t a lot quicker than I hoped.
I'll say this though, I personally have never been in a race where saving your tires paid off. Maybe other people can get it to work, but I never have. In a really long enduro it might work, but I don't think it works in short sprint races. At most tracks, and especially at Monza, the most important thing is to stay in the draft, regardless of what it does to your tires. If you start conserving and lose the draft, you're not likely to catch back up even if the leaders wear their tires. I also find that the best way to conserve tires in this scenario is by drafting and chasing. When I'm hunting someone down and I'm in their slipstream I brake a little earlier to avoid rear-end collisions and I take the turns a bit more gently in order to get optimum exit speed, and this ends up being easier on my tires. When I'm by myself I end up pushing too hard and making mistakes which is usually worse on my tires.
I apologize for the unannounced change but I'm pretty sure that if I hadn't done it the second half of the second race would have been rather ugly. My main priority is to make sure everyone on the grid has an enjoyable time and I felt this was the right choice to make that happen. 👍
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- Indianapolis
- BrandonW77
In other news, here's what I'll be doing this weekend. It's basically going to be like Gran Turismo come to life and I'm quite excited!
"For the first time ever, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway will host more than 600 of the world’s finest and most historic racecars as they compete on the recently reconfigured road course as well as running exhibition events on the famed 2.5-mile oval as part of the Sportscar Vintage Racing Association’s Brickyard Vintage Racing Invitational to be held June 6–8.
The races will showcase a wide variety of cars including cars that competed in past Indianapolis 500s, cars from the NASCAR Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series, Formula One, Grand-Am prototypes and Trans-Am. In addition, American racing cars from makes like Chevrolet will compete with historic racecars from Ferrari, Porsche, Jaguar, MG and many others in twelve different classes of racing. A special class will also feature open-wheel race cars with Indianapolis 500 or other historic racing background. View Entry List
Racing at IMS will be virtually non-stop each day from 8 a.m.-6 p.m. The cars will be on display in the infield and open to all fans providing up close access to the racecars.
The SVRA, America’s premier vintage racing organization, is creating the intriguing competition for veterans of the Indianapolis 500 with a 40 minute race of American muscle cars on the Speedway’s 2.43-mile Grand Prix road course on Sunday, June 8. Two-time Indianapolis 500 winner Al Unser Jr. heads a field of impressive names that also include former Indianapolis Rookies-of-the-Year Lyn St. James and Robby McGehee as well as Willy T. Ribbs, Mark Dismore, Alex Lloyd, Johnny Parsons Jr., Davey Hamilton, Robby Unser, Pete Halsmer, Rocky Moran, Eliseo Salazar, Dick Simon, Scott Harrington, Jack Miller, Rick Treadway, Spike Gehlhausen, Billy Roe and John Hollansworth.
The cars for the Pro-Am will be 1963 to 1972 vintage Corvettes, Camaros and Mustangs of “Group 6,” with an engine displacement limit of 355 cubic inches. The Indianapolis 500 veterans will be paired with amateur drivers, each taking a 20-minute stint. Five minutes will be allotted for driver change.
The “Brickyard Invitational” weekend will be the largest gathering of race cars ever assembled for competition in America. The SVRA has 11 groups of cars spanning 100 years of vintage machines and all will be in action at IMS. The exciting array of entries include exquisite examples of select pre-war machines, classic sports cars, Formula One and endurance prototypes as current as 2009. The storied 2.5-mile oval will be utilized as well with exhibition runs by a wide variety of cars including several of the crowd-favorite 1950’s-vintage Indianapolis 500 “roadsters.” Race fans can enjoy every minute of the action by taking advantage of overnight camping inside the Speedway.
The Pro-Am cars and drivers will also participate in a Fan Walk through the starting grid prior to the opening ceremonies allowing fans to see the cars up close, take photos and chat with the drivers.
For the first time ever, we are allowing tent camping inside the IMS oval all weekend for only $30. IMS infield camping will be located inside of Turn 3."
"For the first time ever, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway will host more than 600 of the world’s finest and most historic racecars as they compete on the recently reconfigured road course as well as running exhibition events on the famed 2.5-mile oval as part of the Sportscar Vintage Racing Association’s Brickyard Vintage Racing Invitational to be held June 6–8.
The races will showcase a wide variety of cars including cars that competed in past Indianapolis 500s, cars from the NASCAR Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series, Formula One, Grand-Am prototypes and Trans-Am. In addition, American racing cars from makes like Chevrolet will compete with historic racecars from Ferrari, Porsche, Jaguar, MG and many others in twelve different classes of racing. A special class will also feature open-wheel race cars with Indianapolis 500 or other historic racing background. View Entry List
Racing at IMS will be virtually non-stop each day from 8 a.m.-6 p.m. The cars will be on display in the infield and open to all fans providing up close access to the racecars.
The SVRA, America’s premier vintage racing organization, is creating the intriguing competition for veterans of the Indianapolis 500 with a 40 minute race of American muscle cars on the Speedway’s 2.43-mile Grand Prix road course on Sunday, June 8. Two-time Indianapolis 500 winner Al Unser Jr. heads a field of impressive names that also include former Indianapolis Rookies-of-the-Year Lyn St. James and Robby McGehee as well as Willy T. Ribbs, Mark Dismore, Alex Lloyd, Johnny Parsons Jr., Davey Hamilton, Robby Unser, Pete Halsmer, Rocky Moran, Eliseo Salazar, Dick Simon, Scott Harrington, Jack Miller, Rick Treadway, Spike Gehlhausen, Billy Roe and John Hollansworth.
The cars for the Pro-Am will be 1963 to 1972 vintage Corvettes, Camaros and Mustangs of “Group 6,” with an engine displacement limit of 355 cubic inches. The Indianapolis 500 veterans will be paired with amateur drivers, each taking a 20-minute stint. Five minutes will be allotted for driver change.
The “Brickyard Invitational” weekend will be the largest gathering of race cars ever assembled for competition in America. The SVRA has 11 groups of cars spanning 100 years of vintage machines and all will be in action at IMS. The exciting array of entries include exquisite examples of select pre-war machines, classic sports cars, Formula One and endurance prototypes as current as 2009. The storied 2.5-mile oval will be utilized as well with exhibition runs by a wide variety of cars including several of the crowd-favorite 1950’s-vintage Indianapolis 500 “roadsters.” Race fans can enjoy every minute of the action by taking advantage of overnight camping inside the Speedway.
The Pro-Am cars and drivers will also participate in a Fan Walk through the starting grid prior to the opening ceremonies allowing fans to see the cars up close, take photos and chat with the drivers.
For the first time ever, we are allowing tent camping inside the IMS oval all weekend for only $30. IMS infield camping will be located inside of Turn 3."
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- KingKlingeling
I'm thinking the same everytime @BrandonW77 posts this track stuff
I'm really jealous because I have to drive 1 hour to my "home" race track called hockenheimring and 3,5 hours to get to the nordschleife 
if its allowed I'll send some track pics from hockenheim next week , because I take part on a track training with my bike and some fellow riders 👍
but maybe I just post a picture from my totally wrecked bike , because I destroyed 2 so far on the track in my 14years of riding .
same procedure as every year
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- daddy-o845
Have driven on nordschliefe before @KingKlingeling?
Also @BrandonW77, enjoy yourself and be sure to post some pics so you can make me even more jealous
Also @BrandonW77, enjoy yourself and be sure to post some pics so you can make me even more jealous
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- Indianapolis
- BrandonW77
I'm thinking the same everytime @BrandonW77 posts this track stuff
if its allowed I'll send some track pics from hockenheim next week , because I take part on a track training with my bike and some fellow riders 👍
but maybe I just post a picture from my totally wrecked bike , because I destroyed 2 so far on the track in my 14years of riding .
same procedure as every year
It's about an hour drive for me to get to IMS as well, and that's really the closest thing to a proper race track around here. There are several oval tracks around me where amateurs and USAC race, but I'm not terribly interested in any of that. I was a photographer for a traveling late model oval racing series about 10-12 years ago so I've visited most of these oval tracks and have seen what they have to offer, no need to go back and watch them go in more circles.
I don't get to do any fun driving on the tracks though.
Although I did get to drive my car around the IMS oval last year, but at a leisurely 25mph. It was cool, and I was shocked out how wide it is. Here are some pics.
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- KingKlingeling
yeah, I was there a few times , but I decided its better for me ,just watching
Its pretty dangerous on open track days called touristen fahrten , well, as the name states only tourists are driving on these days , which means :
- cars and bikes mixed in every possible compilation ,
-grandpa and grandma on their honda goldwing while granny takes some pictures of the landscape
-wannabe rossi's and marquez's on 10hp bikes
-and finally schumachers and rosbergs in wacky fiats trying to set a new fastest lap on winter tires
you see , you risk your life as soon as you get there
only way is a proper training with a instructor on the closed track, but thats too expensive and can be done only every few years , for me at least
Its pretty dangerous on open track days called touristen fahrten , well, as the name states only tourists are driving on these days , which means :
- cars and bikes mixed in every possible compilation ,
-grandpa and grandma on their honda goldwing while granny takes some pictures of the landscape
-wannabe rossi's and marquez's on 10hp bikes
-and finally schumachers and rosbergs in wacky fiats trying to set a new fastest lap on winter tires
you see , you risk your life as soon as you get there
only way is a proper training with a instructor on the closed track, but thats too expensive and can be done only every few years , for me at least
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- daddy-o845
Yeah I could see it being tough and yeah I've seen a video of guys driving around the ring during these tourist days. I thought that slower vehicles have to stay to the right though. Now I would say the most likely turn to kill me would probably be bergwerk because that turn is so blind and Although you may look fine going into the turn, on the exit you're going too fast and you're headed for a wall. I still mess that turn up in gran turismo probably 30-50% of the time.
25mph?! That's so lame!! You should've at least been allowed to go 50 
25mph?! That's so lame!!
You should've at least been allowed to go 50
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- KingKlingeling
true, but if you're driving there in real life you're not afraid of just one or two special corners ,You're scared even on the döttinger straight
+you automaticly reduce your pace and enjoy this historical place because accidents hurts more than just a small rumble in the arse from the buttkicker underneath your seat in the man cave
+you automaticly reduce your pace and enjoy this historical place because accidents hurts more than just a small rumble in the arse from the buttkicker underneath your seat in the man cave
- 12,018
- Indianapolis
- BrandonW77
yeah, I was there a few times , but I decided its better for me ,just watching
Its pretty dangerous on open track days called touristen fahrten , well, as the name states only tourists are driving on these days , which means :
- cars and bikes mixed in every possible compilation ,
-grandpa and grandma on their honda goldwing while granny takes some pictures of the landscape
-wannabe rossi's and marquez's on 10hp bikes
-and finally schumachers and rosbergs in wacky fiats trying to set a new fastest lap on winter tires
you see , you risk your life as soon as you get there
only way is a proper training with a instructor on the closed track, but thats too expensive and can be done only every few years , for me at least
Sounds like Gran Turismo public online rooms.
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- KingKlingeling
hahaha, great one 👍
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- MC-Chase
Stopped getting notifications from this thread!
Urgh, either way, got a little spot race going on the 15th of this month with the WSR F3 at Suzuka, any open wheel fans be sure to have a look.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/wsr-f3-spot-races-at-suzuka-june-15th-9pm-bst.310862/
Urgh, either way, got a little spot race going on the 15th of this month with the WSR F3 at Suzuka, any open wheel fans be sure to have a look
.https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/wsr-f3-spot-races-at-suzuka-june-15th-9pm-bst.310862/
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- Indianapolis
- BrandonW77
The IMS website posted some pics from the vintage practice today, check it out. Seriously, it's like Gran Turismo come to life (and with a livery editor)!
http://www.indianapolismotorspeedwa...yard-vintage-racing-invitational-june-6-2014/
http://www.indianapolismotorspeedwa...yard-vintage-racing-invitational-june-6-2014/
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- Indianapolis
- BrandonW77
There are supposedly going to be F1 cars as recent as 2009 so I may just get to hear some V10 banshees! 
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- BrandonW77
There's a GTP member already down there and he's posted some pics. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/inaugural-brickyard-historics-indy-june-6-8.309420/
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- Nemesis-Reaper
The notification system here (gtplanet) seems to be a bit hit or miss lately?
It seems to work as long as you keep posting, but if you take break it seems to give up! Other than that, not sure what else effects it.
I just have to keep checking the watch threads list!
It seems to work as long as you keep posting, but if you take break it seems to give up! Other than that, not sure what else effects it.
I just have to keep checking the watch threads list!
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- BrandonW77
