Ferrari in GT? Not a chance.

[NSX-R]

I know there's a long thread about whether it's possible for the supercar makers, especially Ferrari, to be in the GT series.

Not a chance.

As we all know, NFS series always, well except for the last two UG series, had Ferraries. The newest NFS, the most wanted, will NOT have any Ferraries. It's kind of a shock when a few Lamborghini and many Porches are in the game.

Even with relatively good relation between EA and Ferrari, MW doesn't get any red. That leaves almost no chance for GT to have any.

Well I am gonna keep my hopes low so my heart won't break when we hear the bad news.

 

[Pebb]

Its the costs of getting rights of there cars to be put in games.

 

[NSX-R]

Ferrari doesn't want their cars to be crashed, modified, and they really want their cars to be exclusive, even in games. Money can solve this problem, however I don't see PD swinging for this.

 

[livemusic]

PGR3 will have Ferraris, right?

 

[DuckRacer]

Ferrari doesn't want their cars to be crashed, modified, and they really want their cars to be exclusive, even in games. Money can solve this problem, however I don't see PD swinging for this.

In Forza, you can crash the living crap out of an Enzo, modify the living crap out of it, and do other things with it too. It's probably a money issue.

 

[DuckRacer]

PGR3 will have Ferraris, right?

Yes.

 

[Mercedes SL]

i thought that Lamborghini and Ferrari ahd agreed to get in GT5...

 

[NSX-R]

In Forza, you can crash the living crap out of an Enzo, modify the living crap out of it, and do other things with it too. It's probably a money issue.

Of course FM had to have Ferrari, because having what GT doesn't have was their selling point.

GT doesn't need Ferrari to sell itself, it would help, but it's not a must.

 

[Pebb]

In Forza, you can crash the living crap out of an Enzo, modify the living crap out of it, and do other things with it too. It's probably a money issue.

Thats why I said about the costs of rights in my last reply mate.

 

[Dave A]

i thought that Lamborghini and Ferrari ahd agreed to get in GT5...

And you heared that where exactley?

 

[gt_masta]

Maybe profits from TT will give pd some cash to buy the rights. Just MAYBE....

 

[tha_con]

And the most important comment of the day:


Who cares.

 

[Jedi2016]

You make it sound like Ferrari has some sort of "exclusive" arrangement with someone.. but if you actually look at upcoming games, particularly next-gen games, you'll see that pretty much everyone EXCEPT Polyphony has Ferrari. That's hardly "exclusive".

 

[Dave A]

Well, no Ferrari's are in PGR3 and TD:U and not much else, they arn't in that NFS game, they arn't in Race driver 3 (the Ferrari like cars in that are Koenigs).

 

[livemusic]

What´s TD:U?

 

[Dave A]

Test drive unlimited.

 

[Sharky.]

[long-winded rant]

Of course FM had to have Ferrari, because having what GT doesn't have was their selling point.

GT doesn't need Ferrari to sell itself, it would help, but it's not a must.

GT could have (Porsche) Porsches and Lambos and sell more than a game with Ferraris.

- - - - -

Ferraris are just other well-known, exclusive hi-po cars that people just so happen to want. If there were no Ferraris in GT5, I wouldn't give a stuff.

(Personally, I don't really like Ferraris but that's just me.)

Anyway, would you rather have two hi-po supercar manufacturers or only one (where the only colour of a car you would buy would be red)?

Why is wanting Ferrari in a GT game so important?

Come on, I'd have Porsche and Lambo in a GT game any day.

[end of long-winded rant]

 

[SavageEvil]

EA only puts ferrari's in certain NFS games, they don't fit the bill in any of their recent games. In Forza you barely modify any of the ferrari's, geez, you can't change any body parts so the car model stays the exact same.

It would be great to see all the major exotics in GT5, but not a big deal, but I really would like to see lamborghini in there, since it is Audi owned. Been aching to tear around in the Diablo GTR, and drive a Murcielago with some realistic car physics.

Reason i want Porsche is because of the Dauer Porsche 962, I want as many Group C, LMP, GTS, GT cars as possible. I want PD to include as many LeMan 24HR winning cars and cars that have historic relevance to LeMans 24HR. Group C's and LMPs really made this game awesome for me, speed, power and control.

 

[63AvantiR3]

... Reason i want Porsche is because of the Dauer Porsche 962, I want as many Group C, LMP, GTS, GT cars as possible. I want PD to include as many LeMan 24HR winning cars and cars that have historic relevance to LeMans 24HR. Group C's and LMPs really made this game awesome for me, speed, power and control.

Ah, this is a fair argument. How about the Ferrari 333SP? http://www.mulsannescorner.com/ferrari333.html

The addition of Ferrari would be great because it would be new to the series. Models such as the 308/328 would be fun to drive and modify. And who wouldn't like the Testarossa? The F40 was built to race. And how about the 512 BBi?

Having said that, I can live without Ferrari, Porsche, and Lamborghini for a little while longer. Ultimately it would be cool to race Hennessey prepared Vipers and Callaway Corvettes against modified Porsches and Ferraris in a Gran Turismo game.

 

[L8 Apex]

I distictly remember reading somewhere, maybe even here on GTP, that Ferrari supposedly wanted to be in GT4, but they couldn't because there was some contract conflict or something. Chances are that this was and still is BS, but ya never know...

 

[Ford 429 Hemi]

I think it's about time for Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche, and Konigsegg to jump into GT.
We also need an McLaren F1 road car...
the one that WAS the top speed holder, till the Konigsegg took it, then the Buggatti Veyron took that...
Anyhow, the worlds fastest 3 cars definatly have a place, but back to ferrari.
When you think of motor-sports, or the very best of stret cars. Ferrari comes to mind.
Granted Ford has slayed them a few times now, but irreguardless, they have acheived an aweful lot, and their street cars are nothing short of incredible works of moving art, from the high revving small displacement v8s, to the old school ferraris that ran only 6 and 4 cylinders. Cars that are legends, and will be legends.
And no game to date ahs offered realistic physics with Ferrari's being usable.
NFS games are far to rediculous, Forza, well it's in it's infancy, no real match for gt yet...
PGR series, very arcade based physics and gameplay, not match for GT, and not realy fair comparason. PGR is about as physically proper as the Ford Racing games...

And Ferrari has already expressed interest in being in GT....
And the fans ertainly are expressing interest in having Ferrari there,
even if you don't care, I'm sure you would rather have 12 entirely nasty ferraris, than 12 more evos and skylines.
EA holds no exclusive liscenses at this point.
Several other games have featured Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche, McLaren, and Konigsegg.
I feel these companies, plus some updates to the GT4 roster in terms of cars that definatly where missing from manufactures in the game, would make a great combo. Persnaly I can name only about 50-70 cars that I felt where missing in GT4, granted alot where muscle, but it would be nice to see some trans am and grand-am race cars since we have JGTC in there, and in full effect too. Most of the roster is there from JGTC.
Well that's the end of my rant....

 

[JohnBM01]

Alright, players... dig my vibe. To me, if Ferrari is in the game, good. If it isn't in the game, still good. Gran Turismo doesn't NEED Ferrari to be a successful racing game. You can't judge a game as being good only because a well-known sportscar maker is in the game. Let's say that GT5 was GT4, but with Ferrari included. In this example, everything people b*tched about GT4 was apparent in GT4's sequel. What now? Is it a great game because of one highly-demanded car company, or is it a bad game because adding in this certain car company still doesn't make the game any better? I am a critic, I'm just not picky about what I want out of a GT game. Again, I go back to a joke that Morgan Webb of X-Play said, (not exact quote) "...we want to be able to ding up Ferraris, Sony."

I think some people just need to know what gamers can live with, and what gamers cannot. No Ferrari, no Porsche, none of those... no problem. Still, though... there are the ones who just think that Ferrari and such are the only REAL car companies in the world, so if such companies aren't in the game, then it's not a racing game to some people. Do racing games NEED Ferrari? Does the success of a sole game rely on ONLY a well-known sports car maker? By this logic, a game can be as fun as "Big Rigs: Over the Top Racing," but still is a fun game because Ferrari is in the game. Just because I don't agree with the ones who want to see Ferrari in the game doesn't mean I hate the company. It just means that fun can still be had even without well-known auto makes.

As I've stated in the past, if I had Forza or an NFS game, I wouldn't want to be a "fanboy" who just prostitutes Ferrari right into the grave. I don't buy racing games just for one specific car in the game, so why should any other sane-minded person feel the same? In fact, it's probably good that GT doesn't have only sports cars and superexotics. Maybe it will give gamers a chance to know about a world of cars and realize that these types of games don't need supercars to be a smash hit. Think about the game itself first, and then worry about certain car makes. Or in fact, disregard auto makes in the game and just enjoy the racing. I won't cry because Ferrari isn't in a popular racing game. I'm sorry... I must be getting old because some things have really changed about what makes a game great. Secondary elements seem to be more important than primary elements nowadays.

 

[Mr P510]

Yo John, glad your still floatin round. I totally agree with your post,BUT wouldn't it be an awsome way for Sony to showcase the graphical grunt of the PS3 by including the big three manufacturers.Like I've said once before,I'd like to see Ferrari in a GT game before I become an old man.

 

[jammyozzy]

From what I remember, Ferrari did have an exclusive license with EA until the end of last year, which was too late for them to be included in GT4. If Polyphony could get the license, it'd be great. I have an R/C 228GTO, and i've always wondered what it's liuke in real life.
If they can't though, it's still no great loss. And i'd prefer A Bugatti EB110 over a Ferrari eny day.

 

[niky]

I'd prefer to have everything. Not having a Ferrari, meh, it's okay... would make nice Garage material, but considering:

1. There are faster cars in GT (just about any race car)
2. There are better handling road cars in GT... well, against, the Enzo, maybe just as good.
3. There are more exotic cars in GT... more expensive, too.
4. There are cars just as desirable in GT. (this one is entirely subjective).

It wouldn't be a loss if they didn't get in. But if they did, I'd be happy.

 

[amar212]

As a totally new moment, new TOCA Race Driver 3 game (out in February 2006 in Europe for PS2, Xbox and PC) managed to get Ferrari, Porsche and Lamborghini under liveries and names of Koenig / Gemballa teams in "World GT Championship" section.

Preview demo I'm playing has a nice choice of F360 Modena's and Diablo models (5 teams with different liveries) under Koenig badge, and 911 (also 5 teams) under Gemballa badge, topping 10 teams / 20 cars on track per once.

So, Codemasters managed to ensure those racing models - but I still did not manage to verify has those cars really existed - ot they've just been licenced through some kind of gentleman's agreement which does not allow to use F, L or P names, but allows the use of chasis looks and - undoubtfully - the use of the true sounds, which is far the best sound of those three models that has ever praised some video-game so far.

 

[Hun200kmh]

I wouldn't really care if GT5 doesn't get Ferraris, Lambos or Porsches if it wasn't for the fact that these companies made some cars that are a part of motorsport's history. This, added to the fact that I'm an endurance races fan.

So, this is an example of what I'd like to drive, and can't, in GT4:

Ferrari GTO and Testarossa (the old ones), 333, P4 and every other Le Mans car they made back in the 50's, 60's and up to the 70's

Porsches 917 and 956/962. And also the "beefed up" 911 (I think they were group 5 cars? And called 935?) that , prepared by Joest, Kremer, Almeras Freres and others, won Le Mans, IIRC, several times.

As for the nowadays street cars ... it'd be cool to have them, but if I don't ... I really don't care much.

 

[Dave A]

The reason I don't say it wouldn't bother me if they wern't in is because GT is a car enthusiasts game, it's about the cars and thats why any extra cars that can be added should be welcomed. I will buy the game regardless of Lambo, Porsche or Ferrari, but I'd still much rather have them than not.

 

[James2097]

I would LOVE ferrari to get into GT, they are simply beautiful cars. Beautiful to drive, beautiful to look at, beautiful to hear.

Its also annoying how Xbox fan-boys gloat about having Ferrari. It seems like EVERY other game has Ferrari, Porsche, lambo... but the one game (GT) that could actually show us how these cars truly drive gets the short end of the stick time after time. Not having these cars doesn't change much from an intelligent gamer's point of view, like John said, but the absence of such important marques from the history of motorsport hurts Gran Turismo to some extent. Considering how many cars ARE featured in GT, the absence of Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini is more and more apparent each time a GT game gets released.

It seems to be about money now, just paying the licence. Sony should just give PD whatever money they need to buy the licence. While this may not technically make the game SIGNIFICANTLY better, I still think it would be money very well spent from the eyes of the public, and from the eyes of millions of kids who have posters of Ferraris on their bedroom walls. They don't have posters of Mazda Demios you know.

 

[DeLoreanBrown]

There was a thread with equaly as much discussion on this just shorts back ;
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=68503

What will make it in , though , considering that PD has sought out exotics and supercars in the last three GTs.
My money is in the Veyron making it in , with the MC12 and the Koenigseggs as possibilities.