Fertilizer plant explosion in Texas

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Wasn't the explosion due to the firefighters trying to put out the fire with water - which turned the chemicals around there into gas?

EDIT: http://www.dallasnews.com/news/stat...-said-in-report-that-it-presented-no-risk.ece

West Fertilizer Co. reported having as much as 54,000 pounds of anhydrous ammonia on hand in an emergency planning report required of facilities that use toxic or hazardous chemicals.

But the report, reviewed Wednesday night by The Dallas Morning News, stated “no” under fire or explosive risks. The worst possible scenario, the report said, would be a 10-minute release of ammonia gas that would kill or injure no one.

The second worst possibility projected was a leak from a broken hose used to transfer the product, again causing no injuries.

The plan says the facility did not have any other dangerous chemicals on hand. It says that the plan was on file with the local fire department and that the company had implemented proper safety rules.

Advisories on safe handling of anhydrous ammonia generally state that the chemical is not considered an explosion risk when in the air as a gas. They add, however, that it can explode in certain concentrations inside a container.

“Emergency responders should not mix water used for firefighting directly with anhydrous ammonia as this will result in warming of the product, causing the liquid to turn into a vapor cloud,” says the website of Calamco, a growers’ cooperative in California.Explosive hazards with fertilizer are more commonly linked to ammonium nitrate, which is widely used both in agriculture and as an explosive in construction and mining. A mixture of ammonium nitrate and fuel oil was used to make the bomb that destroyed the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City 18 years ago Friday.
 
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Here are some pictures of the destruction

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That explosion in the father/child video caught me of guard.

That was simply terrifying!

That, and what someone said about first responders being confirmed dead already caused.. my face to start leaking. And it still is.

dad please get out of here...dad...please get out of here...i cant hear anything...dad
 
Why do people get freaked out when they film things like this.

A fertilizer plant is bound to explode, same with a petrol tanker.

People film it than they shake the camera at the explosion.
 
Because it's not something that happens everyday... And even if it did, you don't see it.
 
The answer is no clearly, no mater how much Greyfox likes to sensationalize.

Actually I believe the answer is we have no idea what happened. Anything at this point is just speculation, unless we have witness statements somewhere that point directly to some type of industrial accident or that the firefighters didn't follow accepted protocols.
 
Why do people get freaked out when they film things like this.

A fertilizer plant is bound to explode, same with a petrol tanker.

People film it than they shake the camera at the explosion.

You must have no experience with an explosion or similar concussive force. Have you ever taken a big hit to the head? To the point where your ears are ringing and you cannot hear? Your equilibrium is kaput, your body will go into a panic in a body-alarm reaction. I'd like to see you prioritize holding a camera steady when something like that happens.

How do you expect every person to know that the building in the distance is a fertilizer plant?

Separate COD's explosions from reality. Kids these days...
 
Okay, let's say that they did know that it was a fertilizer plant. Who expects that kind of an explosion? I was certainly surprised at the magnitude from the video. Most people would expect a little fiery plume every here and there. I certainly would...
 
It was called Fertilizer west. I think they knew.

Okay. Maybe they weren't aware of how deadly ammonia was then.

I'm just bringing up suggestions that they have just been ignorant. I rather that than assume a victim's stupidity. If I didn't see the video's title, I would've just thought it was a regular ol fire and wouldn't have expected an explosion of any size.
 
I think that is the main case. How often does a fire turn into an explosion of this magnitude?

The same happened here in 2002, when a firework storage went up in the air, levelling a cityblock and killing 23. No one expected that fireworks could do that.
 
Updated the OP with a more correct (as of now) death number. So far they are saying 5 to 15 possibly dead, hundreds injured. Several fire fighters still missing.

Edit: The blast triggered a 2.1 on the Richter Scale.
 
Okay, let's say that they did know that it was a fertilizer plant. Who expects that kind of an explosion? I was certainly surprised at the magnitude from the video. Most people would expect a little fiery plume every here and there. I certainly would...

You ever see those "world's most outrageous videos" shows? I saw a fertilizer/oxidizer chemicals plant explode on one of them. It was like the first atom bomb. From that point on, I knew that if I were ever near something like that, then the best course of action would be to run like hell, get as many people as you can and haul ass out of there.

 
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Actually I believe the answer is we have no idea what happened. Anything at this point is just speculation, unless we have witness statements somewhere that point directly to some type of industrial accident or that the firefighters didn't follow accepted protocols.

Well we are not under a conventional or remotely large attack at the least.
 
According to CNN,

"Criminal activity" is not apparent but hasn't been ruled out.

My translation, they have no idea what happened. Just another terrible tragedy this week.
 
Okay, let's say that they did know that it was a fertilizer plant. Who expects that kind of an explosion? I was certainly surprised at the magnitude from the video. Most people would expect a little fiery plume every here and there. I certainly would...

Remember the Oklahoma City bombing? If I remember correctly that was just a van full of fertilizer. Now imagine the damage that did and increase that to be a whole factory. I can understand how did it was and the pictures of the cloud after the explosion you would swear it was an atomic bomb going off.
 
People keep saying Atom bomb but isn't hydrogen bomb more appropriate given the fact the plant was full of most likely ammonia, anyway not important i was just curious where did the 60 plus dead number come from? I haven't seen it on here but I'm sure i saw it on the first BBC reports?
 
Im pretty sure that this was just an accident but this happened at a very bad time. We all know what speculation can bring us to.
 
People keep saying Atom bomb but isn't hydrogen bomb more appropriate given the fact the plant was full of most likely ammonia, anyway not important i was just curious where did the 60 plus dead number come from? I haven't seen it on here but I'm sure i saw it on the first BBC reports?

CBS news. I've since updated the OP to show the correct info. It's between 5-15 dead. They still can't get in to ground zero of the blast yet, too hot.
 
Wow. If you slow it down, it looks like there were two explosions. The initial blast, and then a secondary blast of something white in color.
 
Could be too that the first explosion was a container of chemicals and that explosion got to a second one. Of course I don't know the site so there may only be one container.
 
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