Ff Drift N00bz Checks This Out!!!

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i actually have mastered the FF drift in this game, as i am new to this forum i dont know if someone already has or not but i decided to visit the site tonight and give u guys an update on sum of my shiaat. FF drift are fully possible, fully HOLDABLE. and fully controlable. you can get completely sideways in the ff drift and hold it at high rpm while maintaining speed. i currently plan on making a short video to show alll of you how it is really done! i am of course loyal to the rwd drift but i thought i had to master all aspects of drift, and dont say drifting in an ff isnt drifing, cuz ohh boy u can get more sideways than u ever can in a rwd. coming from me i originally hate ff too BUT some of u guys need to know this. im doing it for my homeboys at skool in there 1st gen CRX's LOL

the video will be done by the end of the week!
 
Originally posted by F.Zamataki
you can get completely sideways in the ff drift and hold it at high rpm while maintaining speed.
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does that mean you're going fast?

An FF Drift is slow at cornering...
 
the ff cars are what I started learning to drift on. you can get sooooo squirly around hairpins and control them to no extent. drift on bro.
 
I'm going to just say two things.
One: I look forward to seeing this perfect FF drift. Because the concept interests be, and baffles me.

Two: Run for the hills. Start running right now.
Because come tomorrow, there will be ten-thousand "OMG U NOOB SITS NRT DURIFIUTING ITS ASS DRAGGIN LOLZ!" posts, chasing you with pitchforks and torches. Because it's "trendy" to do.
 
Originally posted by SR20DET
does that mean you're going fast?

An FF Drift is slow at cornering...
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Well, actually I drifted a Mini around the last turn in Tokyo, forward, the big 90 one, at 100 mph.
 
I won't say anything. And no one shall flame him with immature comments either. I just wanna see if there's anything new to learn... please finish the video as soon as possible.
 
Originally posted by toyomatt84
Well, actually I drifted a Mini around the last turn in Tokyo, forward, the big 90 one, at 100 mph.
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sounds very impressive ...

but may i ask which turn again?? i didnt quite understand that "Tokyo, foward" part.

and to all those people who think FF Drifting is " ass dragging":

as long as it's a controlled slide, it's a drift to me.

ya dig?
 
Originally posted by SR20DET

and to all those people who think FF Drifting is " ass dragging":

as long as it's a controlled slide, it's a drift to me.

ya dig?
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No need to start the war hon :odd:
 
I think we should all except anything that is Drifting relate or sliding, because its all fun and if you dont like it, then dont read the thread.

FF drifting, i made an FF Drifting Tribute videos of it, plus i also made a Two Player Drifting with an FR and FF drifting sideways together, since your new and you havent seen the videos, here is the site to it:

https://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/photos/gt3_video/2PlayerDrifts_Part_2.wmv

https://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/photos/gt3_video/FF_Drifting_Tribute.wmv

hope you'll enjoy it. Thats FF Drifting right there, i would like to see yours, I'm interest in any drifts.
 
that looked pretty good...alot more smoke than most rwd drift too
what exactly are the optimal @$$drag settings? i can't even get ff's to turn while i got the handbrake down
 
Originally posted by Night_Drifter
I think we should all except anything that is Drifting relate or sliding, because its all fun and if you dont like it, then dont read the thread.

FF drifting, i made an FF Drifting Tribute videos of it, plus i also made a Two Player Drifting with an FR and FF drifting sideways together, since your new and you havent seen the videos, here is the site to it:
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Too bad you don't decide what's drifting. Drifting has been around longer than any of the newbies on this forum, myself included. I'm really starting to lose my interest in this forum because of threads like this, where people just bark about all this stuff they know how to do. Congratulations, welcome to the next level, what do you want, a dog biscuit? People have been doing this since before you were alive, what you're doing is nothing new. Sorry to break it to you that way. FF's have about as much to do with drifting as skiis do with snowboarding. Sure you can do the same thing in skiis for the most part, but it still isn't snowboarding. FF "drifting" is completely different. Sure it's entertaining, but it has nothing to do with real drifting. Sorry. This debate has already been played out over and over on every drift forum there is, and the oldschool guys always argue that it's not drifting and the newbies always say "yes it is! yes it is!" so that they can feel like they're part of something new.
 
Originally posted by Night_Drifter
I think we should all except anything that is Drifting relate or sliding, because its all fun and if you dont like it, then dont read the thread.

FF drifting, i made an FF Drifting Tribute videos of it, plus i also made a Two Player Drifting with an FR and FF drifting sideways together, since your new and you havent seen the videos, here is the site to it:

https://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/photos/gt3_video/2PlayerDrifts_Part_2.wmv

https://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/photos/gt3_video/FF_Drifting_Tribute.wmv

hope you'll enjoy it. Thats FF Drifting right there, i would like to see yours, I'm interest in any drifts.
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wow dude, that' s sum nice 2player drifting vids you have. Have you started on the battle between battle and snake yet? Just curious, no rush, take as long as you want, ur damn good.
 
Theres a Pergatory Dictionary, and a Bengee dictionary. Like..Everyone writes 3 lines about the topic. You and bengee wright like..an essay. Its crazy, but always super informational. I would like you thank you ahead of time, Bengee, and Pergatory, for the information I will learn in the next 6 months. Arigato.
 
i don't wanna start a war, but rather get a REAL answer and put an end to this...

1st of all, unless you can PROVE to me that it's not drifting, i will still call it drifting, for it is a controlled slide. and when i say PROVE, i want a GOOD REASON.

pergatory gave a good example:
Originally posted by pergatory FF's have about as much to do with drifting as skiis do with snowboarding. Sure you can do the same thing in skiis for the most part, but it still isn't snowboarding.
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why? can you be more specific?

Drift (to me) means a controlled a slide.
So if i can control it, i'll call it a drift...

again i don't mean to start war, but rather get a good answer out of this.:)
 
Because "Drifting" is more than a controlled slide....You can have a CONTROLLED slide in a Jet ski...it doesn't mean you're drifting....you have a controlled slide when you're going DOWN A SLIDE....you're not drifting...The point is...A FWD car in a "drift" can't be maintained, like it or not...maybe it can in a VIDEO GAME but in no way does a VIDEO GAME defined what a motorsport/art is.
When you drift with a RWD or AWD car, you can make it through the corner maintaining the car in a state...Do it in a FWD, pull the ebrake, what happens, you lose control of the back end and it slides untill the ebrake is released...when the ebrake is released, as ANYONE who's ever driven a FWD car knows...the back tires will whip back into traction, correcting the car....So every time you let go of the ebrake you leave the drifting action, meaning it can't be sustained....meaning it's not a drift..There....THERE is proof.
 
Aye, good answer Shinez. Just to add to that, maybe a better way to describe drifting is "performing a controlled slide by using throttle and brakes to control oversteer." In a front-wheel drive car, the throttle cannot be used to control oversteer, it simply pulls the car along while fighting against the e-brake which is the thing creating oversteer. FF drifting is not balance, it's a complete lack of balance, it's chaos. FR drifting is a harmony, when you're doing it, it almost feels more natural than driving grip.
 
Pergatory......I actually wrote a paragraph and saved it to my PC for this war...on why FWD cars can't drift....I posted it a while ago...i'll post it again...lemme find it
 
Who says you can't maintain control in FF cars??? Even if you can't do it in real life, why are people so hotheaded over this? :banghead:
It's just a game, games are fun, you can do a FF "drift" in this game, so therefore:
If you are having fun doing it.......DRIFT ON!!!!!!!
(there's your proof)
 
Technically it can't be sustained, and no "going sideways" isn't drifting...going sideways is going sideways.
Excuse my while I preach on it for a bit here.

drift
v. drift·ed, drift·ing, drifts
v. intr.

To be carried along by currents of air or water:
To proceed or move unhurriedly and smoothly:

Here's where we break this down and settle it.

These are the exact word for word definitions of "drift" in the dictionary, and it relates to the automotive aspect of drifting as such. "To be carried along by currents of air or water" would be to be carried along by the engine within your vehicle....In MR and FR, such a thing is true, you are carried along by the power your engine creates, however the same cannot be said for FWD drivetrains. Durring an alleged "drift" in a FWD car the thing powering the car through the corner is the built up intertia the driver has created in a car, not the engine..The only thing the engine does is take the car out of it's motion. As far as "To proceed or move unhurriedly and smoothly" Those aspects can be related to, Drifting not being the fastest way to get from point A to point B, however it is consistant in it's actions and styles (I hope you understood that) a FWD car follows only 1 characteristic, and that is that it doesn't take the fastest way from point A to point B, simply because it is TRYING to lose control. However in a FWD car the E-brake is used to stop the rear wheels so that the inertia can send the rear end of the car sliding outwards, but this cannot be sustained..If the e-brake is on the gas isn't pressed, meaning there is no power, meaning you're going to stop in the middle of a corner facing the wrong way...However if you release the ebrake once your rear end is at a desired position it will whip the car right back around to the direction the front wheel's are facing, completly wasting the time of E-braking, so in order to get around a corner using such a style the driver must constantly revert from his/her E-brake to his/her gas pedel, and every time that transition is made there will be a instantaneous whipping affect to the car and will be fully aparent from both the inside and the outside as the rear end of the car slowly slides back into it's place, following the front wheels...Meaning it is not a smooth motion..It doesn't matter how fast the driver is with his/her hands and feet, there will always be that motion of the rear end jerking back to re-align with the front/powered wheels which throws the concept of "Smoothly" out the window..I'm well aware that some/alot of drivers using FR MR and AWD drive layouts use their Ebrake and such things can occur with those aswell, but with those drivelayouts it can be avoided depending on the driver, with a FF car there is no way to get around it.
 
Originally posted by Shinez0nceAgain
Technically it can't be sustained, and no "going sideways" isn't drifting...going sideways is going sideways.
Excuse my while I preach on it for a bit here.

drift
v. drift·ed, drift·ing, drifts
v. intr.

To be carried along by currents of air or water:
To proceed or move unhurriedly and smoothly:

Here's where we break this down and settle it.

These are the exact word for word definitions of "drift" in the dictionary, and it relates to the automotive aspect of drifting as such. "To be carried along by currents of air or water" would be to be carried along by the engine within your vehicle....In MR and FR, such a thing is true, you are carried along by the power your engine creates, however the same cannot be said for FWD drivetrains. Durring an alleged "drift" in a FWD car the thing powering the car through the corner is the built up intertia the driver has created in a car, not the engine..The only thing the engine does is take the car out of it's motion. As far as "To proceed or move unhurriedly and smoothly" Those aspects can be related to, Drifting not being the fastest way to get from point A to point B, however it is consistant in it's actions and styles (I hope you understood that) a FWD car follows only 1 characteristic, and that is that it doesn't take the fastest way from point A to point B, simply because it is TRYING to lose control. However in a FWD car the E-brake is used to stop the rear wheels so that the inertia can send the rear end of the car sliding outwards, but this cannot be sustained..If the e-brake is on the gas isn't pressed, meaning there is no power, meaning you're going to stop in the middle of a corner facing the wrong way...However if you release the ebrake once your rear end is at a desired position it will whip the car right back around to the direction the front wheel's are facing, completly wasting the time of E-braking, so in order to get around a corner using such a style the driver must constantly revert from his/her E-brake to his/her gas pedel, and every time that transition is made there will be a instantaneous whipping affect to the car and will be fully aparent from both the inside and the outside as the rear end of the car slowly slides back into it's place, following the front wheels...Meaning it is not a smooth motion..It doesn't matter how fast the driver is with his/her hands and feet, there will always be that motion of the rear end jerking back to re-align with the front/powered wheels which throws the concept of "Smoothly" out the window..I'm well aware that some/alot of drivers using FR MR and AWD drive layouts use their Ebrake and such things can occur with those aswell, but with those drivelayouts it can be avoided depending on the driver, with a FF car there is no way to get around it.
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WOW ok...u make very storng points my learned friend..however, be it drifting or not drifting, i can control the skid in an ff while moving the car around a corner in a slide...so u can say FF drifting is not drifting....but it is drifting..its just a different style, oh and the vid is coming along nicely:D
 
Originally posted by Shinez0nceAgain
Technically it can't be sustained, and no "going sideways" isn't drifting...going sideways is going sideways.
Excuse my while I preach on it for a bit here.

drift
v. drift·ed, drift·ing, drifts
v. intr.

To be carried along by currents of air or water:
To proceed or move unhurriedly and smoothly:

Here's where we break this down and settle it.

These are the exact word for word definitions of "drift" in the dictionary, and it relates to the automotive aspect of drifting as such. "To be carried along by currents of air or water" would be to be carried along by the engine within your vehicle....In MR and FR, such a thing is true, you are carried along by the power your engine creates, however the same cannot be said for FWD drivetrains. Durring an alleged "drift" in a FWD car the thing powering the car through the corner is the built up intertia the driver has created in a car, not the engine..The only thing the engine does is take the car out of it's motion. As far as "To proceed or move unhurriedly and smoothly" Those aspects can be related to, Drifting not being the fastest way to get from point A to point B, however it is consistant in it's actions and styles (I hope you understood that) a FWD car follows only 1 characteristic, and that is that it doesn't take the fastest way from point A to point B, simply because it is TRYING to lose control. However in a FWD car the E-brake is used to stop the rear wheels so that the inertia can send the rear end of the car sliding outwards, but this cannot be sustained..If the e-brake is on the gas isn't pressed, meaning there is no power, meaning you're going to stop in the middle of a corner facing the wrong way...However if you release the ebrake once your rear end is at a desired position it will whip the car right back around to the direction the front wheel's are facing, completly wasting the time of E-braking, so in order to get around a corner using such a style the driver must constantly revert from his/her E-brake to his/her gas pedel, and every time that transition is made there will be a instantaneous whipping affect to the car and will be fully aparent from both the inside and the outside as the rear end of the car slowly slides back into it's place, following the front wheels...Meaning it is not a smooth motion..It doesn't matter how fast the driver is with his/her hands and feet, there will always be that motion of the rear end jerking back to re-align with the front/powered wheels which throws the concept of "Smoothly" out the window..I'm well aware that some/alot of drivers using FR MR and AWD drive layouts use their Ebrake and such things can occur with those aswell, but with those drivelayouts it can be avoided depending on the driver, with a FF car there is no way to get around it.
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I agree with all of this except I just wanted to point out that you seem to overlook using the e-brake and throttle at the same time. FWD drifts CAN be controlled as others have pointed out, using this method, as well as throttle and brake at same time if done correctly which is actually incredibly fast. FWD drifting can be done smoothly as well. However, the rest of the argument stands even without that. It has nothing to do with how fast or how controlled it is, it has nothing to do with whether or not it takes skill. It simply isn't drifting. It's not an insult, it's not condescending, it's something else that I haven't heard a name for because it's not very widespread. I'm sure there are lots of nicknames for it. I've never called it "ass-dragging" and never will, because that term IS insulting and condescending. By the way, great interpretation Shinez! I'd never thought of it that way before.
 

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