FF Tuning Thread

[niky]

it's a thread about FWDs so i don't see why not

would be nice to see how the bigger engined FWDs compare. besides, i personally think this car is a renamed Accord like the RSX is a renamed Integra.

and even though it's american, i wonder what people think of the Taurus SHO. i mean, a V8 coupled to a FWD train can't be THAT bad...right?

edit : i notice my setups get viewed on GTVault but no one votes for them

i guess they don't look impressive enough...

Since I don't spend much time tuning, I can't say much about 'tuned' versions of these cars... but I can vouch for the CL as being a dynamically good car. I think, though, that it shouldn't be tuned to be too sticky, as the rotation of the rear is what makes it a fun car to drive.

The Taurus SHO V8... more power than previous SHOs, but really heavy, soft and with a stupid transmission. I really wish they'd put in the V6 SHOs into the game. This one is very slow, stock. Don't know if you can tune the understeer out of it.

 

[MadDogDrifter]

hummm for the FWD cars like EK9 and DC2 etc...would you want the front to be stiffer or the rear to be softer vice versa?

the only problem for me if i make the front stiff, then it's gonna understeer, if i make the rear more stiff then it won't understeer but it feels like it won't turn and on the corners i tend to lose speed

so far this is my settings with my Civic Type R

Suspension(still doing 24hr endurance race)

Ride height - 5 clicks to the right from lowest F/R

Damping Inbound/Rebound F 5/8 R 5/8

Toe Out - max F/R

Camber - F 2.3/R 1.5

Stabilizers - F 4/R 5

aids Oversteer - 10/ Understeer - 10, TCS - 7

1way LSD

racing SS tires

i know how to tune MR, RWD, AWD and different cars but just having problems with FWD...or is it their nature?

 

[dudejo]

you're understeering to hell because of the traction controls. turning them off is the first thing i do on every car i plan on using. otherwise whatever you change won't work.

a stiff front (in settings where applicable) helps FWD cars along with with a stiffer bound.

and did you use traction controls with the Taurus SHO? if you did, that might explain the problem with understeer because i remember being able to oversteer with that car.

the recommended driving method of FWD usually involves late braking. that's what i did with the taurus that indiced the oversteer.

 

[niky]

I agree ^^^ TCS on FF = understeer... on high-powered FF, it also means no power unless you straighten out.

Yes, you can oversteer a Taurus (heck, you can oversteer anything), but it's still too soft for me, and the slow rolling understeer was greater in this car than I thought it would be... egh... just don't like overly front-heavy cars (meaning over 65:35 F/R weight distribution... 60:40 is much better).

 

[dudejo]

if it means anything, the Taurus SHO has a better P/W ratio than a supra SZ-R

 

[niky]

Yes, but it's ass-slow. At least the older V6 Taurus SHO was a sub-8 second car, and lighter, to boot. But then, GT4 really doesn't do FF cars justice in terms of acceleration.

 

[MadDogDrifter]

i dunno it's just FWD cars...RWD and AWD i do perfectly fine with them

 

[niky]

FF's are like RR's. They take time to master and get the best out of. Of course, in an FF, you won't spin at the first whiff of camber or steering lock.

 

[MadDogDrifter]

anywho....niky is that your RS on yoru avatar?

 

[Jaberwocky]

Here, i will contribute:

Integra Type R - 1999 (used car)
The car is very very very easy to drive.

Spring 9.0 5.0
rh 120 120
bound 10 10
reb 3 3
cam 3.0 1.2
toe 0 2
stab 1 7

1 way LSD
downforce 30 30
no driving aides
no cage
brake balance controller setting not explored
all other goodies

Tested and tuned around medium race tires.

 

[MadDogDrifter]

Here, i will contribute:

Integra Type R - 1999 (used car)
The car is very very very easy to drive.

Spring 9.0 5.0
rh 120 120
bound 10 10
reb 3 3
cam 3.0 1.2
toe 0 2
stab 1 7

1 way LSD
downforce 30 30
no driving aides
no cage
brake balance controller setting not explored
all other goodies

Tested and tuned around medium race tires.

great...just when i'm attending the Formula Gran Tursimo race event

 

[iJDM14]

Can't add anything any more a lot. My brother took my memory card cause he claims he wanted to play...Until then, I'm using all arcade.

 

[dudejo]

Here, i will contribute:

Integra Type R - 1999 (used car)
The car is very very very easy to drive.

Spring 9.0 5.0
rh 120 120
bound 10 10
reb 3 3
cam 3.0 1.2
toe 0 2
stab 1 7

1 way LSD
downforce 30 30
no driving aides
no cage
brake balance controller setting not explored
all other goodies

Tested and tuned around medium race tires.

any car is very easy to drive with racing tires.

try it with sports tires first. the improvements will be MUCH more obvious

 

[niky]

True. Buy at least one set of N3s and test the car first with N's, SM tires, and THEN race tires.

N-tires will show up traction problems and help you find an optimum gear and suspension setting for minimizing wheelspin. Since N-tires cause more understeer, though, and you're not likely to use them in a race, switch to SM tires to figure out the car's natural balance, then try these settings on both N-tires and Race Tires to see how they work out.

I've been tuning fully modified FF's on N-tires and it's a hellishly difficult challenge.

QUOTE=MadDogDrifter]anywho....niky is that your RS on yoru avatar?[/QUOTE]

Yup. 'at's the love of my life... errh... automotive-life.

Sorry to everyone else about the off-topic, pray, continue.

 

[hkshiper]

did a 1.02:55 in a fully worked (engine wise) DC2-R. Anyone bettered this?

 

[iJDM14]

i got a in tsukuba circuit holding the world and national record and global record...JGTC cars did 1'03.299 and i got 1'01.291

 

[EJ1Rider]

JDM (jay' dee ` em)
-n: 1. a clean and subtle look for Japanese automobiles
2. Japanese Domestic Market
3. a lifestyle set apart from the standard norm

thought i throw that in there for that.... Duh Duh Duh guy.....lol

but i have alot of Honda and Acura settings i could post....just gotta gimme time to write them down...ill try n post them up this weekend

JDM

I Heart My Honda & JDM

 

[ekmatt9]

would you happen to have any pics of your car for instance? if you have one...or pics of ur car in gt4? that'd be great...BTW PEOPLE it's iJDM14...i needed a new name...so it's still my thread...but yess....juss got a diff name

 

[EJ1Rider]

hey man yea i got a car....lol im 21

u can check it out here My EJ1 Coop


um, as for pics of the cars on GT4...i dont have that thing to load the pics n stuff...and my settings for the Hondas and Acuras will be posted up by Sunday nite..lol cause i still didnt write them down yet, im busy workin and working on the other civic i got and the F1 qualifying 2morrow and race sunday...def watching them...

but if u got ne other ?s... hit me up on aim EJ1Rider

 

[Gabkicks]

i got a in tsukuba circuit holding the world and national record and global record...JGTC cars did 1'03.299 and i got 1'01.291

what kinda tires amd mods did you use? I've made a 400hp skyline that can get under 1 minute with n3 tires... but i cant get anywhere near the 1 minute mark using the civics and preludes i've tuned on radial tires.

 

[ekmatt9]

Well, with my Integra Type-R (USDM Version) I put all the engine stuff in, NA Stage 3 Tuning. I don't use turbo for any of my cars any more unless they already are. But I did all the engine stuff, brakes, brake controller, exhaust, drivetrain, racing suspension, I practiced on the stock tires...but I always got 1 a minute and 3 seconds on tsukuba. So I put r3's on and I got a minute flat, but the power went out!!!!!!!!!! So yeah.

 

[Rac3rX]

Civic Type-R (EP) '05


_________(Race)
SR_______8.8/3.4
RH_______98/99
SB________5/4
SRB_______9/8
CA______2.4/1.2
TA________0/0
ST________6/4

LSD
IT__________12
Acel________32
Decel_______28

Breaks______4/2

Down-force____30/30

Gears
1st__________2.935
2nd_________1.997
3rd_________1.469
4th_________1.116
5th_________0.892
6th_________0.752
Final_________4.244
Auto___________12

NoS_______User-pref

ASM over______0
ASM under_____0
TCS___________5

Settings by Rac3rX

Parts
I install everything, if there is a Supercharger or a Turbo as an option I use the one with more hp, UNLESS stated otherwise.

Downforce
The downforce should be adjusted according to the track, For Races where there is tire wear, reducing the Downforce will add life to the tires. Some prefer not to add a wing to some cars, that is user pref, unless the game doesnt allow a wing to be added.

Tires
I Tune with Race tires, For races with tire wear try to use harder tires on the wheels applying power they will lose tread faster, try to ballance the tire wear for the front & rear with diferent softnesses of Tire.

Oil Changes & HP Loss
get oil changes as often as possible, as the cars engine will loose hp with deminished oil quality, a oil change gets the HP back up, but with mileage the car will eventually drop a little Hp.

Camber Angle
Increases to the Camber can be made to improve handling in banked turns, & in other various places along the track, it should be adjusted to the specific track needs.

ASM
I leave the ASM “Over-steer”, & “Under-steer” at 0, but theses are adjustable to your own preference, and to what YOU are comfortable with.

TCS
I Tune with Race tires so if you race the car with street tires, or Hard Racing tires, you might need to bump up the TCS if you are loosing a lot of traction. (mostly for the High Hp cars)

IMPORTANT

Gear Tuning
When setting the gears, you must always go in the following order; Auto, Then the Final, then individual gear settings if posted. Doing otherwise will result in odd gear reactions or unreachable variables. IF ever you do get odly working gears & or gears unobtainable variables and you confirmed you followed these steps, PLEASE PM me, DO NOT post it in this thread.

Your Thoughts
Please post your thoughts and opinions on the settings you try, if you like them or hate them, we need to know, and your comments will help people get a general idea of the settings.


Rac3rX

 

[Rac3rX]

Mazda Protege '02

[Note]
I got a 7:05:XXX with this set up on the 'Ring. I know its not sub 7 min, BUT in a FF car with only 332hp its IMPRESSIVE. (And its a 4 door)

This is personally one of my favorot cars, and One of my Best Set-Ups.

__________ (Race)
SR_______8.9/4.6
RH_______98/99
SB________5/2
SRB_______8/6
CA______2.8/0.5
TA________0/0
ST________6/4

LSD
IT__________12
Acel________28
Decel_______32

Breaks______4/2

Down-force____30/30

Gears
1st__________3.108
2nd_________2.047
3rd__________1.516
4th__________1.179
5th__________0.951
6th__________0.786
Final_________3.669
Auto___________09

Ballast
___________98
___________47

NoS_______User-pref

ASM over______0
ASM under_____0
TCS___________6

Settings by Rac3rX

Parts
I install everything, if there is a Supercharger or a Turbo as an option I use the one with more hp, UNLESS stated otherwise.

Downforce
The downforce should be adjusted according to the track, For Races where there is tire wear, reducing the Downforce will add life to the tires. Some prefer not to add a wing to some cars, that is user pref, unless the game doesnt allow a wing to be added.

Tires
I Tune with Race tires, For races with tire wear try to use harder tires on the wheels applying power they will lose tread faster, try to ballance the tire wear for the front & rear with diferent softnesses of Tire.

Oil Changes & HP Loss
get oil changes as often as possible, as the cars engine will loose hp with deminished oil quality, a oil change gets the HP back up, but with mileage the car will eventually drop a little Hp.

Camber Angle
Increases to the Camber can be made to improve handling in banked turns, & in other various places along the track, it should be adjusted to the specific track needs.

ASM
I leave the ASM “Over-steer”, & “Under-steer” at 0, but theses are adjustable to your own preference, and to what YOU are comfortable with.

TCS
I Tune with Race tires so if you race the car with street tires, or Hard Racing tires, you might need to bump up the TCS if you are loosing a lot of traction. (mostly for the High Hp cars)

IMPORTANT

Gear Tuning
When setting the gears, you must always go in the following order; Auto, Then the Final, then individual gear settings if posted. Doing otherwise will result in odd gear reactions or unreachable variables. IF ever you do get odly working gears & or gears unobtainable variables and you confirmed you followed these steps, PLEASE PM me, DO NOT post it in this thread.

Your Thoughts
Please post your thoughts and opinions on the settings you try, if you like them or hate them, we need to know, and your comments will help people get a general idea of the settings.


Rac3rX

 

[ekmatt9]

**!!NOTICE IT SAYS FF HONDA'S THREAD!!** Edit your post and take that out. I used to have the GTP name of iJDM14. Take it off.

 

[ekmatt9]

No, not in here.

 

[dudejo]

i think it's nice to see stuff done with other brands.

honda is nice and all but it's nice to see what other companies have to offer.

 

[Gabkicks]

seewhat othe brands have to offer in an ff honda thread?

 

[dudejo]

FWDs aren't talked about much to begin with.

sure, there are some settings here and there but this topic is about one of the very few that actually DISCUSSES the drivetrain.

 

[Rac3rX]

Honda CIVIC SiR II (EG) '95

_________(Race)
SR_______7.6/3.4
RH_______86/91
SB________7/6
SRB_______8/9
CA______2.8/0.6
TA________0/0
ST________6/3

LSD
IT__________9
Acel________32
Decel_______26

1st___________3.051
2nd___________1.990
3rd___________1.446
4th___________0.119
5th___________0.897
6th___________0.726
Final__________3.862
Auto___________14

Breaks______6/4

ASM over______0
ASM under_____0
TCS___________5

Roll Cage______Y

NoS_______User-pref

Settings by Rac3rX

Parts
I install everything, if there is a Supercharger or a Turbo as an option I use the one with more hp, UNLESS stated otherwise.

Downforce
The downforce should be adjusted according to the track, For Races where there is tire wear, reducing the Downforce will add life to the tires. Some prefer not to add a wing to some cars, that is user pref, unless the game doesnt allow a wing to be added.

Tires
I Tune with Race tires, For races with tire wear try to use harder tires on the wheels applying power they will lose tread faster, try to ballance the tire wear for the front & rear with diferent softnesses of Tire.

Oil Changes & HP Loss
get oil changes as often as possible, as the cars engine will loose hp with deminished oil quality, a oil change gets the HP back up, but with mileage the car will eventually drop a little Hp.

Camber Angle
Increases to the Camber can be made to improve handling in banked turns, & in other various places along the track, it should be adjusted to the specific track needs.

ASM
I leave the ASM “Over-steer”, & “Under-steer” at 0, but theses are adjustable to your own preference, and to what YOU are comfortable with.

TCS
I Tune with Race tires so if you race the car with street tires, or Hard Racing tires, you might need to bump up the TCS if you are loosing a lot of traction. (mostly for the High Hp cars)

IMPORTANT

Gear Tuning
When setting the gears, you must always go in the following order; Auto, Then the Final, then individual gear settings if posted. Doing otherwise will result in odd gear reactions or unreachable variables. IF ever you do get odly working gears & or gears unobtainable variables and you confirmed you followed these steps, PLEASE PM me, DO NOT post it in this thread.

Your Thoughts
Please post your thoughts and opinions on the settings you try, if you like them or hate them, we need to know, and your comments will help people get a general idea of the settings.

Rac3rX

 

[Rac3rX]

Honda CR-X SiR '90


_________(Race)
SR_______8.1/2.4
RH_______114/118
SB________5/4
SRB_______7/9
CA______2.8/0.6
TA________0/0
ST________5/4

LSD
IT__________16
Acel________32
Decel_______18

1st___________3.162
2nd___________2.030
3rd___________1.496
4th___________0.159
5th___________0.949
6th___________0.769
Final__________3.808
Auto___________12

Breaks______3/2

ASM over______0
ASM under_____0
TCS___________5

Roll Cage______Y

NoS_______User-pref

Settings by Rac3rX

Parts
I install everything, if there is a Supercharger or a Turbo as an option I use the one with more hp, UNLESS stated otherwise.

Downforce
The downforce should be adjusted according to the track, For Races where there is tire wear, reducing the Downforce will add life to the tires. Some prefer not to add a wing to some cars, that is user pref, unless the game doesnt allow a wing to be added.

Tires
I Tune with Race tires, For races with tire wear try to use harder tires on the wheels applying power they will lose tread faster, try to ballance the tire wear for the front & rear with diferent softnesses of Tire.

Oil Changes & HP Loss
get oil changes as often as possible, as the cars engine will loose hp with deminished oil quality, a oil change gets the HP back up, but with mileage the car will eventually drop a little Hp.

Camber Angle
Increases to the Camber can be made to improve handling in banked turns, & in other various places along the track, it should be adjusted to the specific track needs.

ASM
I leave the ASM “Over-steer”, & “Under-steer” at 0, but theses are adjustable to your own preference, and to what YOU are comfortable with.

TCS
I Tune with Race tires so if you race the car with street tires, or Hard Racing tires, you might need to bump up the TCS if you are loosing a lot of traction. (mostly for the High Hp cars)

IMPORTANT

Gear Tuning
When setting the gears, you must always go in the following order; Auto, Then the Final, then individual gear settings if posted. Doing otherwise will result in odd gear reactions or unreachable variables. IF ever you do get odly working gears & or gears unobtainable variables and you confirmed you followed these steps, PLEASE PM me, DO NOT post it in this thread.

Your Thoughts
Please post your thoughts and opinions on the settings you try, if you like them or hate them, we need to know, and your comments will help people get a general idea of the settings.


Rac3rX