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In reply to the L1 T1 incident between Schmed, Jontikis and I:

I had a better start, went through the middle of both, mindful to give them space, Schmed's car twitched and angled towards me, whether he nudged me or not (if he did it was faint and totally unintentional) I had lightning quick reactions and took avoiding action and I applied the brakes whilst doing so, in taking the avoiding action Jontikis and I touched, he was slightly behind and he, having raced up front in the practice race, left his braking far too late into T1 on a dirty part of the track and didn't anticipate or react quick enough (look at when he actually applied his brake) to what was going on around him, Schmed and I would have eventually needed to turn into the corner.

I am sorry the incident ruined a podium chance for you Jontikis but you also have to take responsibility.

Also, the sprint race is there primarily to give everyone a chance to figure out the start, braking points, how it might shape up, so it's useful to start from a representative position.
 
Weider
In reply to the L1 T1 incident between Schmed, Jontikis and I:

I had a better start, went through the middle of both, mindful to give them space, Schmed's car twitched and angled towards me, whether he nudged me or not (if he did it was faint and totally unintentional) I had lightning quick reactions and took avoiding action and I applied the brakes whilst doing so, in taking the avoiding action Jontikis and I touched, he was slightly behind and he, having raced up front in the practice race, left his braking far too late into T1 on a dirty part of the track and didn't anticipate or react quick enough (look at when he actually applied his brake) to what was going on around him, Schmed and I would have eventually needed to turn into the corner.

I am sorry the incident ruined a podium chance for you Jontikis but you also have to take responsibility.

Also, the sprint race is there primarily to give everyone a chance to figure out the start, braking points, how it might shape up, so it's useful to start from a representative position.
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Accepted. 👍
 
Jontikis , you dive bombed me at hairpin lap 11 connecting with my front end causing me to lose traction and control of my car, which then put back to last. I did not report you this time but I will next time
 
Esspugo1
Jontikis , you dive bombed me at hairpin lap 11 connecting with my front end causing me to lose traction and control of my car, which then put back to last. I did not report you this time but I will next time
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Just. No. way.
When I completed the pass I was right behind pot who had entered a bit slower and I had to slow down too, to avoid sending him out of the track. I don't know if it was a lag spike, but in my replay, you lost it by yourself.
 
jontikis
Just. No. way.
When I completed the pass I was right behind pot who had entered a bit slower and I had to slow down too, to avoid sending him out of the track. I don't know if it was a lag spike, but in my replay, you lost it by yourself.
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Okay, I wasn't going to say anything, but now I have to because what you are saying is just plain outright false Jontikis.

The sequence of events that you are actually talking about is where you were reckless and you bumped me 3 times then on the 4th time you hit me you spun me out.

You are saying that I entered slower and you had to avoid me blah blah blah. You remember all that, but you don't remember spinning me? You don't remember that you even waited for me after you realized you clipped and spun me?
 
potvinsuks
You remember all that, but you don't remember spinning me? You don't remember that you even waited for me after you realized you clipped and spun me?
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Yes, I do remember. I truly realised that I spun you and waited for you because indeed that was not a proper move. What's your point? That I didn't wait for Spud? I explained in my previous post: I never saw Spud spinning because of a recent contact from my side or something, the only thing I see from my replay is Spud running wide because of us 2 slowing down for a bit, we pull away at the exit, with his car losing grip and ending on the wall. If it was because of lag on his screen, how am I supposed to realise it? Do I have to wait because of it? I believe no. A similar scenario was also happening on the lapping traffic process with many other drivers, but I don't see anyone complaining about this..
For me, there's no reason to look back at it again
 
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jontikis
Yes, I do remember. I truly realised that I spun you and waited for you because indeed that was not a proper move. What's your point? That I didn't wait for Spud? I explained in my previous post: I never saw Spud spinning because of a recent contact from my side or something, the only thing I see from my replay is Spud running wide because of us 2 slowing down for a bit, we pull away at the exit, with his car losing grip and ending on the wall. If it was because of lag on his screen, how am I supposed to realise it? Do I have to wait because of it? I believe no. A similar scenario was also happening on the lapping traffic process with many other drivers, but I don't see anyone complaining about this..
For me, there's no reason to look back at it again
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What's my point in all this related to Spudds?

Nothing, because your opinion on what happened between you and Spudds was not what caused me to suddenly sit up straight while nearly spilling my drink mate :lol:.

The only reason why I'm even talking about this is only because of one thing you said mate. You said - I had to slow down too, to avoid sending him out of the track. :indiff:

Believe me, the last thing I wanted to post about was anything related to Penalties prior to finalising this Race Penalty Report with IP and Erazer. I'm sure you could imagine why, as that might cause some sort of conflict of interest on the stewards part, but as I was saying before, I was very reluctant in bringing it up, let alone posting about it.

However, with that being said, what got me riled up was that I ultimately read from you, was that you might have hit me, when in fact you actually wiped me out m8 :lol:.
That's why mate.

I understand now that you forgot about it, and that's okay mate.

Now, does Spudds and some other things you brought up matter here, or better yet, relevant to the incident on hand? Yes, as well, but those are things that will be pointed out and addressed in the Report.

I have absolutely no problems with you.
You're fine mate, and a heck of a Pilot!

Instead, we should be talking about some good laps we had racing one another ;).
 
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jontikis
Just. No. way.
When I completed the pass I was right behind pot who had entered a bit slower and I had to slow down too, to avoid sending him out of the track. I don't know if it was a lag spike, but in my replay, you lost it by yourself.
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No mate your back end slid into my front end from your dive bombing
 
Incident reports for round 2 (GRV):

@ERAZER - @TRL LIGHTNING
Lap 1
Turn 3 (2'nd hairpin)

Verdict:
No further action.

Stewards comments:
Racing incident, both drivers wanted the same bit of track and erazer got a shunt, lightning could not have known erazer was there at that point.
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@jontikis - @Esspugo1
Lap 11
Turn 1

Verdict:
No further action.

Stewards comments:
Although Jontikis entry was a bit erratic and abrupt, ultimately Spudds lost control by himself, as Jontikis made no contact.
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@jontikis - @DSGT5
Lap 19
Turn 10 (last chicane)

Verdict:
@DSGT5 recieves an official WARNING for causing avoidable collision.

Stewards comments:
DSGT pushes jontikis off the track with a divebomb. Any appeal must be issued within 24 hours.
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@jontikis @Weider - schmedracer
Lap 1
Turn 1

Verdict:
No further action.

Stewards comments:
Arty is overagressive trying to push his way in the middle of 2 drivers, a move that is destined to fail. Then looses control of the car for a moment before regaining it, hitting jontikis in the process.
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@potvinsuks - @jontikis
Lap 3
Turn 5

Verdict:
No further action.

Stewards comments:
Jontikis is overagressive, hitting potvinsuks multiple times, eventually causing him to loose control.
This would have warranted a warning, but Jontikis realized his misstake and waited for potvinsuks to rejoin, thereby avoiding any penalty.
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Germaine
Racerbill1
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Welcome back buddy :cheers::gtpflag:.
 
CrazyJohnIsHere and rvgracer
Lap 2
Denger 1-2

CrazyJohnIsHere and ESSPUDGO1
Lap 2
Right hander after the bridge (before the hairpin)

I'm falling asleep so I parked in the pits, technically a DNF.

@Rvgracer
@Esspugo1 (Forgot to say that I'm not blaming you, I'm just reporting this incident to see who ultimately was at fault. Probably was lag, but if rvgracer didn't hit me while rejoining the track, this wouldn't happen.)
 
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Esspugo1
i don't believe I caused it as I had the inside line stayed in tight leaving plenty of room and if not for your car control we would never have come off the track
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Forgot to say that I'm not blaming you, I'm just reporting this incident to see who ultimately was at fault. Probably was lag, but if rvgracer didn't hit me while rejoining the track, this wouldn't happen.
 
Esspugo1
Jontikis,good race mate, would like to see you on a wheel setup
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You're not the only one who says that, many people in the past suggested me such a thing, but unfortunately it's very difficult to buy a decent wheel package at the moment.

The posibilities to move to GT Sport are very few also, but IF I take the decision in the future, I'll put some effort to return with a wheel setup.

Until then, I will stay with the cheap DS3, which at least I know I'm decent with. :P

PS - To the organisers
I believe we should consider starting the races AT LEAST 30 minutes earlier. The amount of delays we had in the previous races, especially yesterday, was huge. Besides that, I don't think it's going to be a problem, since ~90% of the entrants are present before the start of the sprint race, even in the practice lobby.
 
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jontikis
I believe we should consider starting the races AT LEAST 30 minutes earlier. The amount of delays we had in the previous races, especially yesterday, was huge. Besides that, I don't think it's going to be a problem, since ~90% of the entrants are present before the start of the sprint race, even in the practice lobby.
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Yes, we had a chat about it yesterday, and we have already decided to start 30 min earlier. Unfortunately we could'nt start a full hour early due to certain circumstances. But 30 min was possible so that is what we will go with.:)
There are some other actions that will be taken to make sure we get started on time. For one we will demand a bit more dicipline from all paricipants in the lobby (for example when I say line up, you line up, no but's) yersterday we had several drivers still in pits, and it took forever for some to even get on track. More info on this soon.
 
CrazyJohn
Forgot to say that I'm not blaming you, I'm just reporting this incident to see who ultimately was at fault. Probably was lag, but if rvgracer didn't hit me while rejoining the track, this wouldn't happen.
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So let me get this straight.. You decided to dock your car because you were to sleepy to continue and are expecting DNF points for it?

Then while the race is still in session you decide to post penalty reports about 2 incidents that you had with 2 different drivers on the same lap? :lol::lol::lol:

Sorry, but we do not award points for drivers who deliberately join the race all to just eventually dock their cars for DNF points.
This was a pretty big topic in season 2 as we had a similar situation or two, and we had come in agreement back then that it would not be allowed. Sorry.
 
@potvinsuks what are you even talking about?

I'm obviously not doing this deliberately as I raced only twice here, remember I disconnected at the 1st race. What do you mean with DNF points? I didn't ask about points as far as I know?

Also this wouldn't happen if we didn't have such a big delay. Anyways I won't make a fuss about the incidents, but how about rvg?

Tell me where is the season 2 thread so I can see what you mean.

Edit: I searched everywhere, didn't find anything about what you say.
 
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@potvinsuks
@CrazyJohn

You guys really are experts at missunderstanding eachother:lol:

John finished outside top 10, and will therefore not recieve any points, wich I'm very sure he was'nt even asking for anyway.
He will get classified tho, everyone who makes the race gets classified. This is what I think he ment.

He reported a few incidents that may or may not be his fault, for wich I am thankfull, as all reports help us keep the series clean.
Stewards (me, pot, and IP for the moment) will review the reported incidents from an impartial point of view, regardles of who's fault it was, or who reported it. Thats the point.
 
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@potvinsuks
@CrazyJohn

You guys really are experts at missunderstanding eachother:lol:

John finished outside top 10, and will therefore not recieve any points, wich I'm very sure he was'nt even asking for anyway.
He will get classified tho, everyone who makes the race gets classified. This is what I think he ment.

He reported a few incidents that may or may not be his fault, for wich I am thankfull, as all reports help us keep the series clean.
Stewards (me, pot, and IP for the moment) will review the reported incidents from an impartial point of view, regardles of who's fault it was, or who reported it. Thats the point.
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He specifically said - Technically a DNF. Insinuating that he is classified as a driver who would have ordinarily gotten points as a DNF driver.

I know it would be near impossible for a DNF driver to be awarded points given the way this season in particular is unique in the way it's constructed.

However, I do not want to be giving the impression to any new members that tanking to get points is allowed.
 

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