[FGTA][ENDURANCE][GT300]LAST ROUND AT LE MANS! *JONA IS THE CHAMPION*Finished

[rono_thomas]

It is how it is done in real life? Sometimes it can help your lap time and others it can hurt your lap time?

 

[Jonathan777]

Gonna take a gamble and sign up with the Garaya Team
Did a test with it, and it felt more stable than i thought. Only in the slow corners its very tricky.

So When is the race in Spa?
And How's Hosting it?

Gonna do some more testing tommorow


Thnx btw for the fr Logicline

Hi Vince, leuk je hier ook te zien!
Greetz Jona

Good luck everyone tonight. Currently sitting in my hotel in Germany being sad i cant participate

Edit:Could someone post the results after the race please? Ty

 

[lars toft]

It is how it is done in real life? Sometimes it can help your lap time and others it can hurt your lap time?

i know its done like that in real life , but in real life the slipwind isnt that effective like in the game

 

[Stephen Vann]

i know its done like that in real life , but in real life the slipwind isnt that effective like in the game

Hi Teamate - we have to get training for Apricot hill

 

[Stephen Vann]

Wow my car dropped 13 bhp during that race ? thats a lot

 

[Stephen Vann]

Sken, i just watched the start replay - somehow my car was in reverse? and i didnt know till the lights went out and i hit the gas, and you behind me just drive around me, amazing reflex Sken.

 

[KPGignac11]

OMG I just see it , that a reflex sken !

 

[lars toft]

Sken, i just watched the start replay - somehow my car was in reverse? and i didnt know till the lights went out and i hit the gas, and you behind me just drive around me, amazing reflex Sken.

inbox

 

[Stephen Vann]

Karsten i have got to say, having watched the replay from your car and Filipinos car that on Lap 1 you bashed into Fili on turn 13 and 14 trying to overtake in a place that isnt an overtaking place.
Also at the end of lap 1 you also were right behind fili and you bashed him from behind and made him overshoot the chicane - where he patiently waited for all cars to pass safely.

In my opinion Karsten if i were a sterward i would give you a yellow card for that - we promote clean driving and you were rough with Filli, as you have been with me.

You were faster than him through the turns but you really cant do that, force your way past - as there clearly was no way through without contact.

But thats just my view, be interested to hear others.

 

[KPGignac11]

I think the push at the bus stop was a mistake and not a volontary push, but Karsten could wait fil for fairplay

 

[Stephen Vann]

No i agree - karsten would never mean to do that or bash anyone- he does put himself in places where it is almost certain to happen, lets see what he says once he has watched it.

 

[azidahaka]

I'll take a look asap.

I'm usually very clean (if i feel i messed up i stop by and let even a full field throught no problem) but sometimes in-race perception is wrong, for what i remember of it, fil went to cover the inside then suddenly moved to the outside where i was attacking and i couldn't brake fast enough to avoid contact. If it is so it was his fault for moving from the racing line he choose.

Else it's clearly my fault, no doubt about it. And i'll take more then a penalty along with my hearthfelt excuses for ruining a fellow driver's race.

 

[Stephen Vann]

Hi Karsten, i do agree that you generally intend to be clean, but i have said several times before, and you have roughed me up many times in the past, that you can be a bit too rough when overtaking.
I mean that many places are not places where anyone can overtake with almost certainly rubbing the other car,
and i have watched quite a bot of the race replay , and no one trys to overtake in these types of places, they get close behind and keep the pressure on and wait for the guy in front to make a mistake, but if he doesnt you really cant just force your way into a bend.

 

[lars toft]

I'll take a look asap.

I'm usually very clean (if i feel i messed up i stop by and let even a full field throught no problem) but sometimes in-race perception is wrong, for what i remember of it, fil went to cover the inside then suddenly moved to the outside where i was attacking and i couldn't brake fast enough to avoid contact. If it is so it was his fault for moving from the racing line he choose.

Else it's clearly my fault, no doubt about it. And i'll take more then a penalty along with my hearthfelt excuses for ruining a fellow driver's race.

no matter what karsten , i really think you should take ekstra 200kg on your car for the next 2 years and then some

 

[azidahaka]

Ok i've been watching the accident in various visuals, and from both cars and those in front/behind many times.

I'll take full blame for the accident, but i just want to remember the rules:



8.4.2.3. Defending from the car behind.


While defending from a car behind obviously you own the track and the racing line, you can approach this in any manner you wish, but without sudden or unexpected maneuvers. Brake testing the car behind is strictly forbidden! Once the car behind has started his maneuver to pass there is only a small window of opportunity to defend your position before it will be too late for the driver behind to back out from the maneuver safely if you close the door, so be careful and be aware of where other cars are around you.


Since i'm the organizer it's expected from me far better cleanliness and better driving standards then all and any other on the grid so i ufficially get a warning for getting involved in an avoidable crash. Not for the crash by itself for i still have the feel i could do little to nothing to avoid, i watched whole race and in all situations the driver that choose inside or outside at bus stop sticked there without moving an extra time in dangerous manner.

For what concerns the attack at those turns you stated as inappropriate for a pass, those are unusual for a pass but fill messed 3 consecutive apexes in such an evident way and leaving an enormous door open and beig so slow around the corners, that i just tried to get inside and have better acceleration, still i backed off in all cases (as can be seen by telemetry). i doubt any other drivers wouldn't have tried too.


So as a long story made really short:

karsten takes a warning (first in season) meaning -2 championship points. On top of the warning i'll skip next race qualifying session starting in last position for not stopping by waiting for Fil.

My excuses to Fil for what happened, i just saw what happened in a different way else i would have waited for you, as a friendly advice, please next time stick to the racing line you'll choose with no last minute moves it'll save a lot od crash chances in the future.

This decision is final as soon as @SkengD and @Stephen Vann declare to agree to it.

If any of the stewards disagree of want to review the matter in a different way please let me know by Pm and i'll comply to it. I won't take a decision on a case i'm involved.

karsten

 

[Stephen Vann]

Ok i've been watching the accident in various visuals, and from both cars and those in front/behind many times.

I'll take full blame for the accident, but i just want to remember the rules:



8.4.2.3. Defending from the car behind.


While defending from a car behind obviously you own the track and the racing line, you can approach this in any manner you wish, but without sudden or unexpected maneuvers. Brake testing the car behind is strictly forbidden! Once the car behind has started his maneuver to pass there is only a small window of opportunity to defend your position before it will be too late for the driver behind to back out from the maneuver safely if you close the door, so be careful and be aware of where other cars are around you.


Since i'm the organizer it's expected from me far better cleanliness and better driving standards then all and any other on the grid so i ufficially get a warning for getting involved in an avoidable crash. Not for the crash by itself for i still have the feel i could do little to nothing to avoid, i watched whole race and in all situations the driver that choose inside or outside at bus stop sticked there without moving an extra time in dangerous manner.

For what concerns the attack at those turns you stated as inappropriate for a pass, those are unusual for a pass but fill messed 3 consecutive apexes in such an evident way and leaving an enormous door open and beig so slow around the corners, that i just tried to get inside and have better acceleration, still i backed off in all cases (as can be seen by telemetry). i doubt any other drivers wouldn't have tried too.


So as a long story made really short:

karsten takes a warning (first in season) meaning -2 championship points. On top of the warning i'll skip next race qualifying session starting in last position for not stopping by waiting for Fil.

My excuses to Fil for what happened, i just saw what happened in a different way else i would have waited for you, as a friendly advice, please next time stick to the racing line you'll choose with no last minute moves it'll save a lot od crash chances in the future.

This decision is final as soon as @SkengD and @Stephen Vann declare to agree to it.

If any of the stewards disagree of want to review the matter in a different way please let me know by Pm and i'll comply to it. I won't take a decision on a case i'm involved.

karsten

Lol, gosh Karsten you are taking this very seriously.

I dont really know what to say - i just think that many times during a race there are those times when the car ahead is a bit slower or has messed up a bend and is not carrying the same speed as the following car, but there is now way to go through and pass the slower car unless it is a lot lot slower.
I only say this as there have been several times in races that i have had - Sken and Aboe and vic behind me after they have made pistops - and they are quicker than me but nevr force their way through - they keep close behond and apply pressure and just wait, sometme following me for many laps.
However i know that if i had a certain karsten behind me it would not be very long until he was forcing his way through and often putting me in a crash situation.

I certainly know you dont mean to do it, its that latin blood i reckon.

LKets see what sken thinks.

 

[lars toft]

Ok i've been watching the accident in various visuals, and from both cars and those in front/behind many times.

I'll take full blame for the accident, but i just want to remember the rules:



8.4.2.3. Defending from the car behind.


While defending from a car behind obviously you own the track and the racing line, you can approach this in any manner you wish, but without sudden or unexpected maneuvers. Brake testing the car behind is strictly forbidden! Once the car behind has started his maneuver to pass there is only a small window of opportunity to defend your position before it will be too late for the driver behind to back out from the maneuver safely if you close the door, so be careful and be aware of where other cars are around you.


Since i'm the organizer it's expected from me far better cleanliness and better driving standards then all and any other on the grid so i ufficially get a warning for getting involved in an avoidable crash. Not for the crash by itself for i still have the feel i could do little to nothing to avoid, i watched whole race and in all situations the driver that choose inside or outside at bus stop sticked there without moving an extra time in dangerous manner.

For what concerns the attack at those turns you stated as inappropriate for a pass, those are unusual for a pass but fill messed 3 consecutive apexes in such an evident way and leaving an enormous door open and beig so slow around the corners, that i just tried to get inside and have better acceleration, still i backed off in all cases (as can be seen by telemetry). i doubt any other drivers wouldn't have tried too.


So as a long story made really short:

karsten takes a warning (first in season) meaning -2 championship points. On top of the warning i'll skip next race qualifying session starting in last position for not stopping by waiting for Fil.

My excuses to Fil for what happened, i just saw what happened in a different way else i would have waited for you, as a friendly advice, please next time stick to the racing line you'll choose with no last minute moves it'll save a lot od crash chances in the future.

This decision is final as soon as @SkengD and @Stephen Vann declare to agree to it.

If any of the stewards disagree of want to review the matter in a different way please let me know by Pm and i'll comply to it. I won't take a decision on a case i'm involved.

karsten

I havent seen the accident yet , but i think u a bit rough too urself , and your coment about that you should be cleaner than the rest off the field , is wrong ......but i know whar u mean though ......did u notice i followed my strategy stay behind karsten , and i did allmost all the way

 

[Stephen Vann]

I havent seen the accident yet , but i think u a bit rough too urself , and your coment about that you should be cleaner than the rest off the field , is wrong ......but i know whar u mean though ......did u notice i followed my strategy stay behind karsten , and i did allmost all the way

Hey Tob, you say lexus is no good at drafting - you drafted past me easy enough.
You had a great race with Aboe, just so many laps you couldnt get past him.

 

[lars toft]

just a idea i got , why not let a person that dont race with us take the desiscion about it all ? make mini stiggy see it for example

 

[Stephen Vann]

Ok i've been watching the accident in various visuals, and from both cars and those in front/behind many times.

I'll take full blame for the accident, but i just want to remember the rules:



8.4.2.3. Defending from the car behind.


While defending from a car behind obviously you own the track and the racing line, you can approach this in any manner you wish, but without sudden or unexpected maneuvers. Brake testing the car behind is strictly forbidden! Once the car behind has started his maneuver to pass there is only a small window of opportunity to defend your position before it will be too late for the driver behind to back out from the maneuver safely if you close the door, so be careful and be aware of where other cars are around you.


Since i'm the organizer it's expected from me far better cleanliness and better driving standards then all and any other on the grid so i ufficially get a warning for getting involved in an avoidable crash. Not for the crash by itself for i still have the feel i could do little to nothing to avoid, i watched whole race and in all situations the driver that choose inside or outside at bus stop sticked there without moving an extra time in dangerous manner.

For what concerns the attack at those turns you stated as inappropriate for a pass, those are unusual for a pass but fill messed 3 consecutive apexes in such an evident way and leaving an enormous door open and beig so slow around the corners, that i just tried to get inside and have better acceleration, still i backed off in all cases (as can be seen by telemetry). i doubt any other drivers wouldn't have tried too.


So as a long story made really short:

karsten takes a warning (first in season) meaning -2 championship points. On top of the warning i'll skip next race qualifying session starting in last position for not stopping by waiting for Fil.

My excuses to Fil for what happened, i just saw what happened in a different way else i would have waited for you, as a friendly advice, please next time stick to the racing line you'll choose with no last minute moves it'll save a lot od crash chances in the future.

This decision is final as soon as @SkengD and @Stephen Vann declare to agree to it.

If any of the stewards disagree of want to review the matter in a different way please let me know by Pm and i'll comply to it. I won't take a decision on a case i'm involved.

karsten

Also Karsten, so unluck - just got overtaken by Flank on the last lap - very good race though to be 4th place

 

[Stephen Vann]

just a idea i got , why not let a person that dont race with us take the desiscion about it all ? make mini stiggy see it for example

dont think he can see the replay unless he was in game and saved replay

 

[lars toft]

Hey Tob, you say lexus is no good at drafting - you drafted past me easy enough.
You had a great race with Aboe, just so many laps you couldnt get past him.

logic that was u i passed , and thats easy , because u drive like beep

 

[lars toft]

dont think he can see the replay unless he was in game and saved replay

karsten can record it from different views and let mini see it ....

 

[Stephen Vann]

karsten can record it from different views and let mini see it ....

Lol Tob, it takes ages to edit and do all that, i dont think its required, we can sort it out ourselves i reckon.

 

[Stephen Vann]

Gonna take a gamble and sign up with the Garaya Team
Did a test with it, and it felt more stable than i thought. Only in the slow corners its very tricky.

So When is the race in Spa?
And How's Hosting it?

Gonna do some more testing tommorow


Thnx btw for the fr Logicline

Fantastic drive - that gara is a great car if you have the skill to keep it on the road.

 

[lars toft]

Lol Tob, it takes ages to edit and do all that, i dont think its required, we can sort it out ourselves i reckon.

So ? ass long it isnt my job , i think its a good idea lol

 

[Stephen Vann]

So ? ass long it isnt my job , i think its a good idea lol

See yopu training tob, Nite nite

 

[SkengD]

I will look at it after work today and let karsten and logic know

 

[TazRacing]

great race last night , but 90 min of focus is not so easy

 

[Stephen Vann]

great race last night , but 90 min of focus is not so easy

Lol no its very hard i totally agree, specially after dusk when the kerbs and track get a bit slippy as night falls, although in the impressa i guess thats not so bas as that tries to grip at everything.