FIA GT 2010 Championship

Pescara for GT5
I really find this series interesting, is there any way for Americans to watch it???
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What series? We're talking about 3 different ones here.

GT1 and GT3 have websites that do live streaming and they've been mentioned numerous times in the thread. Bloomberg also show them live.

GT4 doesn't seem to be available online or on any TV channel I can get.
 
daan
What series? We're talking about 3 different ones here.

GT1 and GT3 have websites that do live streaming and they've been mentioned numerous times in the thread. Bloomberg also show them live.

GT4 doesn't seem to be available online or on any TV channel I can get.
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Motors TV is the only channel I know that shows the GT4 cup, but they tend to do it a few weeks after the actual races and at random times. That's if you can get the channel of course.

The next showing is on Saturday at 3pm GMT by the way.
 
Not very clear for what competition this counts:

RNJ with Lucas Ordoñez is racing in Spa-Francorchamps this weekend (still with the Nissan Nismo 370Z GT4): nb 62 on the list.
24 Hours of Spa

Sticking with my decision that I can not go to races every weekend.
 
Just looked at the free practice times, and in the wet - as it was - the GT2, GT3 and GTN cars seems to be pretty much right on the pace against eachother! Hope we get to see them in a dry session aswell, to see if they still stick together in the same way. Should make for a really interesting race if that is the case.
 
Message on Facebook of Lucas: RJN team: Pole in class for the 24h of Spa! great result forthe RJN Motorsport Nissan PlayStation Team. I really enjoyed the night quali. A very unique experience!!!
 
Mm, congrats to Lucas 👍

On another note I'm not sure who is fastest in GT1 as they aren't live feeding the Qualifying or the Qualifying Race, something to do with not having TV companies broadcasting it. Which is a shame, I love Spa I think they are really missing the point here. However they well be broadcasting Championship Race tommorrow.

I have however managed to find out the fastest, Mad-Croc are currently sitting on top but whether they will stay sat there is a different matter. I hope so, they haven't had a particularly good season so far and it'd be nice to see someone different winning. That said it'd be great if Young Driver or Sumo Power gets up in the top three. Whether that will happen or not I'm not entirely sure.
 
It seems there is some partial coverage on the internet (not clear what the overlapping times mean):

GT2 World Video Player

Timing Web TV
Sat 31/07
15h45 – 17h00
15h45 - 16h45
18h00 – 21h00
18h30 - 19h00
20h00 - 21h00

Sun 01/08
10h30 – 12h00
11h30 – 12h00
13h25 – 13h55
14h00 – 16h30
15h30 – 16h15

Life results would be here.
 
Just as a heads up for those watching Mac Croc won the Qualifying Race with the Reiter Engineering Lamborghini in 2nd and finally Phoenix Racing in 3rd. I'm not sure how the others did as the race wasn't being covered, not to mention GT1 World hasn't posted the results yet.

EDIT: Formation lap for the Championship Race has begun. Looks to be that it could be a very interesting race.
 
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Can't wait for FIA GT / VLN / LMS to come to terms on the cars and classes.

FIA GT should be a sprint series, but for old times sake kept the 24h of Spa with cars that arn't essentially build for them. LMS races with a crippled GT1 class, and now I'm watching Muller in a bmw m3 that won the VLN 24h on nurburgring on a fia gt 24h race.

I can't distinguish the series & classes at all. Arrrgh.
 
wbrinkman
Can't wait for FIA GT / VLN / LMS to come to terms on the cars and classes.

FIA GT should be a sprint series, but for old times sake kept the 24h of Spa with cars that arn't essentially build for them. LMS races with a crippled GT1 class, and now I'm watching Muller in a bmw m3 that won the VLN 24h on nurburgring on a fia gt 24h race.

I can't distinguish the series & classes at all. Arrrgh.
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The classes in the Spa 24 race aren't that hard to figure out. No GT1 cars are competing, the fastest ones are the GT2's so things like the 911 RSR. The GT3 cars are..well GT3 cars, small less aero, less power. And the GT4, and GTN class are basically road going cars.
 
Speedster502
The classes in the Spa 24 race aren't that hard to figure out. No GT1 cars are competing, the fastest ones are the GT2's so things like the 911 RSR. The GT3 cars are..well GT3 cars, small less aero, less power. And the GT4, and GTN class are basically road going cars.
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Actually it´s a tad more complicated than that ;) The GTN class are cars not fully FIA homologated, so there we find the Moslers and the BMW´s! The Beemers are probably there because they run the same cars they used at the N24, wich featured ABS - a nono in FIA GT. The Moslers aren´t made in sufficient roadgoing numbers. If they where properly homologated the BMW´s would be GT2 and the Moslers GT3.
GT2 cars are actually generally less powerfull than GT3 - GT2 cars run sub 500bhp and GT3 ranges from 480 to 600+. The difference lies in the GT3 Balance of Performance, wich is set to even out the competition among the diversity of the cars, ranging from 3.8l Porsches to 7l Corvettes. The GT2 cars have bit more advanced aerofeatures and they are generally lighter than the GT3´s. The easiest way to destinguish GT2 and GT3 is on their looks. The GT3 cars have a more agressive look to them - more vents, more pronuanced wheelarches and such.
Ferrari F430 GT3 Ferrari F430 GT2
GT4 are basically off the shelf cars, only fitted with a crashstructure and possibly a rear wing.
 
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Not the greatest weekend again for Lucas Ordonez (from his facebook):

After 1.10h of race the car just stopped near the pit lane entry...we are unfortunately out of the race. Shame because we were leading in class... But that's why 24h race is especial...let's keep positive and look forward to the next GT4 race at Nurburgring
 
Mt. Lynx
Actually it´s a tad more complicated than that ;) The GTN class are cars not fully FIA homologated, so there we find the Moslers and the BMW´s! The Beemers are probably there because they run the same cars they used at the N24, wich featured ABS - a nono in FIA GT. The Moslers aren´t made in sufficient roadgoing numbers. If they where properly homologated the BMW´s would be GT2 and the Moslers GT3.
GT2 cars are actually generally less powerfull than GT3 - GT2 cars run sub 500bhp and GT3 ranges from 480 to 600+. The difference lies in the GT3 Balance of Performance, wich is set to even out the competition among the diversity of the cars, ranging from 3.8l Porsches to 7l Corvettes. The GT2 cars have bit more advanced aerofeatures and they are generally lighter than the GT3´s. The easiest way to destinguish GT2 and GT3 is on their looks. The GT3 cars have a more agressive look to them - more vents, more pronuanced wheelarches and such.
Ferrari F430 GT3 Ferrari F430 GT2
GT4 are basically off the shelf cars, only fitted with a crashstructure and possibly a rear wing.
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Ah, when I posted that I didn't realise GTN was running. I don't agree on telling apart the GT2's from GT3's in terms of aggressive looks because originally the 911 RSR GT2 looked more aggressive then they released the GT3 RSR which now makes them look pretty much identical. And GT2's are almost GT1 level of fast, as we saw in Le Mans.

EDIT: Just was googling the Porsche's, and they are pretty much exactly the same.
 
Speedster502
Ah, when I posted that I didn't realise GTN was running. I don't agree on telling apart the GT2's from GT3's in terms of aggressive looks because originally the 911 RSR GT2 looked more aggressive then they released the GT3 RSR which now makes them look pretty much identical. And GT2's are almost GT1 level of fast, as we saw in Le Mans.

EDIT: Just was googling the Porsche's, and they are pretty much exactly the same.
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You're right about the Porsches! I think the GT2's have wider tyres, but that's about it! Hopefully Porsche will race the GT2 RS in GT2 and keep the GT3 RSR in GT3 for next year.

Hopefully the GT1's will be sped up now, since they don't have to comply to ACO regs. They were basically slowed down so that the P2 cars wouldn't have such a hard time passing them. If the GT1WC organizers - SRO - are clever, they should make sure the GT1 category is as fast as they possibly can be without factory involvement. Especially since it's already decided the new LMGTE class will gain some further speed.
 
Mt. Lynx
You're right about the Porsches! I think the GT2's have wider tyres, but that's about it! Hopefully Porsche will race the GT2 RS in GT2 and keep the GT3 RSR in GT3 for next year.
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If they do replace the RSR next year the existing model wont be modified for GT3 regs. Remember it is a GT2 spec car despite the 'GT3' name and there is no need for them to drop it down a class as they've already got at least 2 capable cars for the job(Cup S & GT3 R). The latest GT3 spec 911 - the GT3 R has been around for less than a year and has already proven to be a good car, so expect to see it for a few more years yet (with upgrades and so on of course).👍

Hopefully the GT1's will be sped up now, since they don't have to comply to ACO regs. They were basically slowed down so that the P2 cars wouldn't have such a hard time passing them. If the GT1WC organizers - SRO - are clever, they should make sure the GT1 category is as fast as they possibly can be without factory involvement. Especially since it's already decided the new LMGTE class will gain some further speed.
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I hope so too, i'd love to see the C6-R and DBR9 like they used to be, now they're 'on their own' I can't see why not. I found it quite upsetting when I saw them struggling to stay ahead of the GT2 cars at Le Mans.:(


Lexus to enter FIA GT1WC with LFA​

Motortrend
There were rumors flying around the international press recently that Toyota might return to the World Rally Championship. Well, that won't happen. According to our sources, the company that pulled out of rallying before quitting Formula 1 will not return to WRC. Toyota's motorsport aspirations will instead be realized with its entry into the FIA GT1 Championship, driving -- you guessed it -- the 560 horsepower V-10-powered Lexus LFA.

Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/6673738/m...le-with-godzilla-in-fia-gt1-series/index.html
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:D
 
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Tommi
If they do replace the RSR next year the existing model wont be modified for GT3 regs. Remember it is a GT2 spec car despite the 'GT3' name and there is no need for them to drop it down a class as they've already got at least 2 capable cars for the job(Cup S & GT3 R). The latest GT3 spec 911 - the GT3 R has been around for less than a year and has already proven to be a good car, so expect to see it for a few more years yet (with upgrades and so on of course).👍





I hope so too, i'd love to see the C6-R and DBR9 like they used to be, now they're 'on their own' I can't see why not. I found it quite upsetting when I saw them struggling to stay ahead of the GT2 cars at Le Mans.:(


Lexus to enter FIA GT1WC with LFA​
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I know the GT3 has a few more years in it, thing is they race the same car in both GT2 and GT3 (and other series aswell) so a change would be nice.

And that Lexus rumour has to be taken with quite a pinch of salt. Whoever wrote that has little clue of regs for all the series he/she mentions. If the LF-A goes to Le Mans it will not go to GT1 and vice versa. Unless they build two different racecars... not likely. and SuperGT? GT500 only allows for 3.4l V8 powerplants, and I don´t think Lexus sees that as a real option to their great V10... unless they go for GT300, and that doesn´t sound right either.
 
By that reason, Nissan wouldn't see the need to enter their GTR in either form of those racing series; GT1 or SuperGT. The Rules indicate that a 3.4 liter V8 in SuperGT's GT500 class be used. Well Lexus already has that engine being used this year by the SC430- why would it be any different for the LFA? GT1 would be fine because the LFA's engine would only need to increase it's displacement by 200cc since it's already 4.8 liters- it's only natural they want to take the LFA racing, where else would you see it fit?
 
freshseth83
By that reason, Nissan wouldn't see the need to enter their GTR in either form of those racing series; GT1 or SuperGT. The Rules indicate that a 3.4 liter V8 in SuperGT's GT500 class be used. Well Lexus already has that engine being used this year by the SC430- why would it be any different for the LFA? GT1 would be fine because the LFA's engine would only need to increase it's displacement by 200cc since it's already 4.8 liters- it's only natural they want to take the LFA racing, where else would you see it fit?
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Nissan did not see their V6 fit for that kind of competition, that is why they run a production derived V8 in GT1 and the pure race V8 in GT500. Personally I would like them to run the six in GT1 though.
Actually I think that displacement rules was ditched, so the Lexus V10 can be run as it is. But if that article has any viability to it, Lexus wants to cover some R&D costs, and to me that rules out GT1 in favour of GTE or GT3 where there are more customers. And GT500 is not cost effective at all in that case, since they would have to build at least two racecars from scratch.
 
Mt. Lynx
If the LF-A goes to Le Mans it will not go to GT1 and vice versa. Unless they build two different racecars... not likely.
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Why not?(I know about LMGT1), after all it doesn't have to be Lexus who builds the cars and they don't have to run them either. The information from the insider given to the person who wrote the article could have easily been misinterpreted - (Possibly)it's not Lexus as a company who are entering but just that Lexus cars are being used instead. They could provide an unofficial company with the car, backing and get them to build the car(s). A good example of this is Matech Concepts who designed and built both the GT1 & 3 Ford GT's themselves with some help from Ford.

Also, the article never said that the LFA was going to entered into GT1 at Le Mans either, just 'the LFA is expected to be there'.
 
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Why not?(I know about LMGT1), after all it doesn't have to be Lexus who builds the cars and they don't have to run them either. The information from the insider given to the person who wrote the article could have easily been misinterpreted - (Possibly)it's not Lexus as a company who are entering but just that Lexus cars are being used instead. They could provide an unofficial company with the car, backing and get them to build the car(s). A good example of this is Matech Concepts who designed and built both the GT1 & 3 Ford GT's themselves with some help from Ford.

Also, the article never said that the LFA was going to entered into GT1 at Le Mans either, just 'the LFA is expected to be there'.
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Privateer projects are of course a possibilty - Matech will even indulge in a GTE project for further racing at Le Mans - but that is a stretch. The only car of the three GT1´s built to the ´10 rules constructed with direct factory support is the Nissan GT-R. The Lamborghini is built by Reiter and the Ford GT by Matech, without any help from their original manufacturers. Matech has to buy the chassis from Ford, and they pay Roush-yates for the engines. They only got Fords blessing to build a racecar, but they have had no financial backing, apart from the fact that they don´t have to buy the entire cars. Same goes for Reiter - they buy their SV´s from Lambo, and send the engines away to Ernst Breuer for finetuning. Next years BMW´s are a bit more complex, since the chassis will be bought from Alpina rather than BMW, but that is beside the point. the LF-A is a very expensive car - even compared to a Murcielago SV, and I can´t really see a privateer effort going into it with the only possibility to sell four cars. That is why I think Lexus will have to build the racecars themselves, and then sell if they go to GT1 - like Nissan has done. If they opt for GTE, they can run them with a factory team, and if they do well, they get to sell a few to customers. They can go down the GT3 route too. By selling more customer cars, they increase the chance that someone will want to take it a step up to GT1 themselves.

If I remember correctly, Lexus did mean for the LF-A to race in GT1, but that was before the rules changed.
Don´t get me wrong, I would love to see the LF-A both in GT1 and at Le Mans!
 
Pascal Vasselon said earlier this year that they were looking to FIA GT as a race series they would like to enter. As well as BTCC or WTCC (the Avensis is the new 1600 based car- picked up off ten-tenths forums). Pascal Vasselon is the head of the Aero department for toyota's F1 program, and I think he has used this position to include other Toyota motorsport programs. WRC Touring Car and FIA GT were the series he was speaking of, FIA GT he said with the LFA. That's confirmation enough for me.
 
Mt. Lynx
Ferrari F458 in GT1 aswell? Translated from french endurance-info.com
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Awesome!, it's great that we might be seeing Ferrari's back in GT1 again, but I'd rather the 458 participate in the GT2 & 3 classes and they use the 599 for GT1, I can understand why they probably won't though.
I loved seeing the 575 GTC fighting at the top and the 360 GTC in NGT, it would be brilliant to see a similar thing again with the 458 & 599 considering they are 'evolutions' of both of those cars.👍
 
Upcoming program, did not translate from German, Higlighted what I will to and see.


Donnerstag, 26. August 2010

14:00 - 15:00 Uhr ADAC GT Masters 1. Freies Training
15:15 - 15:45 Uhr ATS Formel-3-Cup Freies Training
16:00 - 16:30 Uhr ADAC Formel Masters Freies Training
16:45 - 17:45 Uhr ADAC GT Masters 2. Freies Training


Freitag, 27. August 2010

09:00 - 09:40 Uhr GT4 European Cup / Dutch GT4 1. Freies Training
09:55 - 10:25 Uhr ATS Formel-3-Cup Qualifying 1
10:40 - 12:00 Uhr FIA GT1 World Championship Freies Training
12:00 - 12:50 Uhr Pause
12:50 - 13:40 Uhr ADAC GT Masters Qualifying 1+2
13:55 - 14:35 Uhr GT4 European Cup / Dutch GT4 2. Freies Training
14:50 - 15:10 Uhr ADAC Formel Masters Qualifying
15:25 - 15:55 Uhr ATS Formel-3-Cup Qualifying 2
16:10 - 17:30 Uhr FIA GT1 World Championship Pre Qualifying


Samstag, 28. August 2010

08:20 - 08:45 Uhr ADAC Formel Masters Rennen 1 (25 Minuten)
09:00 - 10:00 Uhr FIA GT1 World Championship Qualifying
10:10 - 10:45 Uhr GT4 European Cup / Dutch GT4 Qualifying 1+2
11:00 - 12:00 Uhr ADAC GT Masters Startaufstellung
12:00 - 13:00 Uhr ADAC GT Masters Rennen 1 (60 Minuten)
13:05 Uhr ADAC GT Masters Siegerehrung
14:15 - 15:15 Uhr FIA GT1 World Championship Quali-Rennen (60 Minuten)
15:35 - 16:00 Uhr ADAC Formel Masters Rennen 2 (25 Minuten)
16:20 - 16:50 Uhr ATS Formel-3-Cup Rennen 1 (30 Minuten)
17:10 - 17:50 Uhr GT4 European Cup / Dutch Rennen 1 (40 Minuten)

Sonntag, 29. August 2010

08:45 - 09:10 Uhr ADAC Formel Masters Rennen 3 (25 Minuten)
09:30 - 10:00 Uhr ATS Formel-3-Cup Rennen 2 (30 Minuten)
10:15 - 10:45 Uhr FIA GT1 World Championship Warm Up
11:00 - 12:00 Uhr ADAC GT Masters Startaufstellung
12:00 - 13:00 Uhr ADAC GT Masters Rennen 2 (60 Minuten)
13:05 Uhr ADAC GT Masters Siegerehrung
13:35 - 14:15 Uhr GT4 European Cup / Dutch GT4 Rennen 2 (40 Minuten)
15:15 - 16:15 Uhr FIA GT1 World Championship Rennen 2 (60 Minuten)
 

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