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They certainly do. Gotta play with the throttle and avoid any hard wheel inputs.
Hope to get to Midfield next week. I just want a 43 at Tokyo. Saw someone else get it legit but I keep barely missing it.
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Hope to get to Midfield next week. I just want a 43 at Tokyo. Saw someone else get it legit but I keep barely missing it.
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Did 10 laps at Tokyo, once hit 1.46, in empty track. Realised how much time it would take me to hit 1.44 constantly... Couldn't really explain the reason to drive Ferrari, but road car nevertheless, while there are monsters from golden era with bike power weight ratios sitting in the garage.
"I just want a 43 at Tokyo" 👍 attitude
"I just want a 43 at Tokyo" 👍 attitude
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I know it's there and other than the times I had wall riders on track, I can clear the field for clean runs.
It's that left hander under the highway, though. Thrown away 43s because I set up for it wrong or simply make a mental mistake. Good challenge, though. The combo really suits me, apparently.
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Take note of the start time at Midfield. 17:15 is normal. I've seen 17:16, 17:17, etc., up to 17:20. I think that despite the temp being the same, there's different grip levels with different times. Could be completely wrong.
Also, it's super rare I see anyone under 3:00 now. Except for me when I want.
Tailgating peer pressure is more fun.
Also, it's super rare I see anyone under 3:00 now. Except for me when I want.
Tailgating peer pressure is more fun.
Grippy
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Finally got myself a 1:57.9 in the Minolta! I can see though, to drive less than 1:57 I'm going to have to get perfect throttle application and not chew up my tyres!i've been called much worse on the internet) it's ok
done a couple of clean 57.1x - that seems to be my wall... driving mazda only, like the way it puts down power.
What seems to be capable of the fastest times? Toyota? Peugeot? Mazda?
Now don't shoot me for this, but try it with 5 traction control, get a feel for the limits of grip of the Ferrari 458 italia, then keep turning it down till you're comfortable at 0 TC. I did this and noticed the LSD on the 458 Italia requires you to turn-in really hard(almost 60
Still the best way to learn is saving a lap where the best time is 1:44 or something ridiculously fast, and examining every single corner, rpm shift points etc
Edit: Just hit a 1:45.72x! 0TCS ABS1 default BB on lap 2
Tips: Do turn 3 right and you can actually go full throttle quite early. Don't brake too much too early going into that big U-turn in the first ~1/3 of the race. You can carry quite a lot of speed on the outside before mid-apex. The car also does not like to brake whilst turning (massive understeer) so do all your braking in a relatively straight line then turn. Technique: Brake, off brakes & quickly turn-in 40-60 degrees, to keep that suspension loaded, hold it & slowly apply and feather gas, near full throttle slowly winding out of turn before tyres get cooked. Be ready for next turn as it comes up even faster. Car is a delicate balance in driving technique. Quite the challenge to reach sub 1:44 times.
On another note, An interesting thing I just discovered, TCS1 feels like a Mild SRF on this car. It gives you more grip and stability in all areas compared to without it, where there is far more chance for driver error to eat up your laps. Try it. Just got a breezy 145.8xx with ABS1 and TCS1
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Finally got my 43 at Toyko. 
Since it's not too much fun when your only competition is either somehow using SRF or riding the walls, here's a few pointers.
T1 - The moment you pass under the 200m board, brake hard and straight. When you get to the 50m mark, you want to turn using 2nd gear and float the car towards the apex. While you can stay in 3rd, I find the nose turns a lot better in 2nd, allowing for a more aggressive exit.
T2 & T3 - Braking point is right at or just before the rumbles begin on the right. With such a wide track, you can angle the car slightly toward the corner. The temptation is to carry as much speed for the left hander. However, you want to keep the 458 more to the left, even if it means sacrificing some speed. The reason is because if you get it right, the following corner is wide open throttle. If the car's rear steps out a bit, even better since it only gives you more rotation. I would not advise touching the rumbles at all at any point, especially the ones on the right hand side.
T4 - There's different ways to handle this u-shaped corner. I like to turn when I hit the 40 kph road marking in between the 100m and 50m boards and keep turning while braking hard and downshifting. From there, it's maintain speed until reaching the second set of white billboards on the left side. This is roughly the spot where you want to lift off completely and get the nose pointed for a fast exit. Depending on where you are on the track, you may be able to go full throttle from here without having to lift again. The more to the outside you are, the earlier you can add power.
T5 - Brake around the 50m board or a little before if you keep pushing wide on entry. You want to quickly get down to 3rd and wait until you reach the crosswalk markings. That's around when you can get back on the throttle again. Avoid turning too much, though. There's more room on the exit than you think.
T6 & T7 - The wonderful S turn. I've seen a lot trying a more straight line approach which I haven't tested much. I'm more used to my way. Basically, I line up the car left and wait until I reach the yellow Pirelli billboards. I then back off the throttle a touch and aim for the first apex to the right. The moment I touch the strips, I dab the brake and yank the wheel hard left. It's a test of bravery since there's no room for hesitation and believe me when I say I smacked the second apex because I mis-timed my turn in. The reward is gobs of exit speed, however. It is something that requires rhythm so I suggest using the warm up session to get a feel for it.
T8 & T9 - Turn 8 is a struggle. In fact, the way I did it during my 43 was probably the best I've ever done. You have to start arcing the car as you approach the 100m board. You want to brake and downshift but be deliberate about it. You want to carry the momentum into the corner and hope you can clip the apex curbs a touch but not run them over. At most, straighten up the corner for an instant on exit because you'll have to start the approach for T9. Like in T4, lift off the throttle for extra rotation. When you exit, keep the car closer to the middle of the track because it will help you nail the next section.
T10, T11 and T12 - The setup is key to everything. Again, you want to be closer to the middle of the track exiting T9. That's because T10 can be taken flat out in ideal conditions. You can't be afraid of the barriers so attack the apex aggressively. If you think the car will understeer too much, then back off the throttle for an instant and get back on it. T11 is more difficult because you have to hug the right side of the track in order to get T12 right; there's not enough time to go wide and re-establish. I always do a little lifting at T11 for consistency's sake.
T12 is the money turn. See where the shadow and light intersect at the right side of the barriers? Your braking point is just before that. The following sequence is a tough one: quick downshift, brake straight and hard for a moment, turn left and ride it out until you reach the apex. Like the S-turn, you absolutely must commit to the apex. Once you reach it, accelerate. Quite satisfying when you get it right!
T13 - I feel like I botched this turn during my run but the lap time says otherwise. I've had runs where I braked right at the 50m board and made it but in most cases, that's too late. My impression is that you want to carry all the speed you can going into the turn. You can go a little wide if you can go deep enough to where you can line up the exit once you scrubbed off all the speed.
Since it's not too much fun when your only competition is either somehow using SRF or riding the walls, here's a few pointers.
T1 - The moment you pass under the 200m board, brake hard and straight. When you get to the 50m mark, you want to turn using 2nd gear and float the car towards the apex. While you can stay in 3rd, I find the nose turns a lot better in 2nd, allowing for a more aggressive exit.
T2 & T3 - Braking point is right at or just before the rumbles begin on the right. With such a wide track, you can angle the car slightly toward the corner. The temptation is to carry as much speed for the left hander. However, you want to keep the 458 more to the left, even if it means sacrificing some speed. The reason is because if you get it right, the following corner is wide open throttle. If the car's rear steps out a bit, even better since it only gives you more rotation. I would not advise touching the rumbles at all at any point, especially the ones on the right hand side.
T4 - There's different ways to handle this u-shaped corner. I like to turn when I hit the 40 kph road marking in between the 100m and 50m boards and keep turning while braking hard and downshifting. From there, it's maintain speed until reaching the second set of white billboards on the left side. This is roughly the spot where you want to lift off completely and get the nose pointed for a fast exit. Depending on where you are on the track, you may be able to go full throttle from here without having to lift again. The more to the outside you are, the earlier you can add power.
T5 - Brake around the 50m board or a little before if you keep pushing wide on entry. You want to quickly get down to 3rd and wait until you reach the crosswalk markings. That's around when you can get back on the throttle again. Avoid turning too much, though. There's more room on the exit than you think.
T6 & T7 - The wonderful S turn. I've seen a lot trying a more straight line approach which I haven't tested much. I'm more used to my way. Basically, I line up the car left and wait until I reach the yellow Pirelli billboards. I then back off the throttle a touch and aim for the first apex to the right. The moment I touch the strips, I dab the brake and yank the wheel hard left. It's a test of bravery since there's no room for hesitation and believe me when I say I smacked the second apex because I mis-timed my turn in. The reward is gobs of exit speed, however. It is something that requires rhythm so I suggest using the warm up session to get a feel for it.
T8 & T9 - Turn 8 is a struggle. In fact, the way I did it during my 43 was probably the best I've ever done. You have to start arcing the car as you approach the 100m board. You want to brake and downshift but be deliberate about it. You want to carry the momentum into the corner and hope you can clip the apex curbs a touch but not run them over. At most, straighten up the corner for an instant on exit because you'll have to start the approach for T9. Like in T4, lift off the throttle for extra rotation. When you exit, keep the car closer to the middle of the track because it will help you nail the next section.
T10, T11 and T12 - The setup is key to everything. Again, you want to be closer to the middle of the track exiting T9. That's because T10 can be taken flat out in ideal conditions. You can't be afraid of the barriers so attack the apex aggressively. If you think the car will understeer too much, then back off the throttle for an instant and get back on it. T11 is more difficult because you have to hug the right side of the track in order to get T12 right; there's not enough time to go wide and re-establish. I always do a little lifting at T11 for consistency's sake.
T12 is the money turn. See where the shadow and light intersect at the right side of the barriers? Your braking point is just before that. The following sequence is a tough one: quick downshift, brake straight and hard for a moment, turn left and ride it out until you reach the apex. Like the S-turn, you absolutely must commit to the apex. Once you reach it, accelerate. Quite satisfying when you get it right!
T13 - I feel like I botched this turn during my run but the lap time says otherwise. I've had runs where I braked right at the 50m board and made it but in most cases, that's too late. My impression is that you want to carry all the speed you can going into the turn. You can go a little wide if you can go deep enough to where you can line up the exit once you scrubbed off all the speed.
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Kind of a coasting like thing. Keep up speed, don't get too crazy. I use that term myself. Easy on all inputs. Instead of hammering away you just cruise through. Like the top of Bathurst.
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Yay, some variety!
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HSV is whooping butt at Midfield.
Grippy
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You mean the Tickford XR8
HSV stands for Holden Special Vehicle
Wouldn't want to rustle those Aussie jimmies hehe
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That's a win for us. No MR means no 2X and other tried and tested hacks
Grippy
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What's interesting about the Euro, AR QM is all the cars are lapping pretty similar despite the specs showing significant differences.
The Golf V GTI is 196hp and 1336kg
The Renault Clio is 199hp and also 100kg lighter(1240kg) yet I've come first place in the Golf against a bunch of clios, rather easily. Most the competition was barely able to pull 1:36s Your target should be 1:34s then you'll place well in this race.
My fastest lap thus far in the Golf is 1:34.9xx. I drive with traction off, ABS1. To get maximum grip from the Golf you'll need to keep the weight on the front axles, coasting or braking till the apex of a corner then when you're confident, throttle and steer. Gasing it before apex results in weight shifting to the rear and spinning, understeering tyres out of the turn.
The Clio feels far more direct, is lower, and generally more grip. You should race it with same racing techniques as the golf but you can be more direct and get on the power earlier sinsce the wieght/grip shift isn't as harsh. Fastest Clio lap was only 1:34.1xx So there's surprisingly not much difference around this track.
IRL the golf would be 3-4 seconds or more slower around the same track. It would not be able to keep up.
The Golf V GTI is 196hp and 1336kg
The Renault Clio is 199hp and also 100kg lighter(1240kg) yet I've come first place in the Golf against a bunch of clios, rather easily. Most the competition was barely able to pull 1:36s Your target should be 1:34s then you'll place well in this race.
My fastest lap thus far in the Golf is 1:34.9xx. I drive with traction off, ABS1. To get maximum grip from the Golf you'll need to keep the weight on the front axles, coasting or braking till the apex of a corner then when you're confident, throttle and steer. Gasing it before apex results in weight shifting to the rear and spinning, understeering tyres out of the turn.
The Clio feels far more direct, is lower, and generally more grip. You should race it with same racing techniques as the golf but you can be more direct and get on the power earlier sinsce the wieght/grip shift isn't as harsh. Fastest Clio lap was only 1:34.1xx So there's surprisingly not much difference around this track.
IRL the golf would be 3-4 seconds or more slower around the same track. It would not be able to keep up.
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Just did a 1:02.9 in the HSV. Ain't sharing the tune yet though.
Though I'll say it resembles the recent Fuji TT tunes, but not quite. Less sliding.
Though I'll say it resembles the recent Fuji TT tunes, but not quite. Less sliding.
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Which HSV?Just did a 1:02.9 in the HSV. Ain't sharing the tune yet though.
Though I'll say it resembles the recent Fuji TT tunes, but not quite. Less sliding.
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That's insanely fast @coryclifford
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Just did a 1:02.9 in the HSV. Ain't sharing the tune yet though.
Though I'll say it resembles the recent Fuji TT tunes, but not quite. Less sliding.
I was doing 00:58's in the last quickmatch with the GT's. Now I am struggling to make 1:03's
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Tonight I did lap 2 and 3 at 1:02.9, somehow. Lot of downforce in front. Lot of flooring it when you don't think you should be. Hang on tight.
I'm not bragging but if anyone goes MUCH faster, I'm calling them out as a SRF hack.
I'm not bragging but if anyone goes MUCH faster, I'm calling them out as a SRF hack.
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I believe you... Same with the previous challenge with standard cars. Anyone quicker than 00:57 was SFR.
I had it a few times, doing even 00:56's and total times of <2:54's. Checked but no SRF, but you could feel it something was "out-of-space"
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I can see it. That long left turn. The car just… turns in mid corner at an unbelievable speed. The rest of Midfield is no sweat, no advantage I can see for the SRF. Except that long left.
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Not sure about there, or there cause my car is fast as fork through those.
I'm flooring it in 5th through that chicane. Yep.
I'm flooring it in 5th through that chicane. Yep.
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