FITT: Blind Tuning Challenge! Congrats to Bowtie-muscle & Otaliema! Tuners Revealed!!

[Soren Jacquet]

The Duel is at Grand Valley East Reverse layout, and the GT300 Time Attack is at Tsukuba. Glad to have another tester come and join us. 👍

Thanks I

 

[Otaliema]

Here are the results of my testing, 10 to 15 laps per car, DS3 controler using left and right sticks .
This was a hard contest to score as all the tunes are very good and a credit to you tuners.


Tune 1. # DC. 8.7
Mazda RX8.. 1.10.018

The car feels quite stable and well planted, corner entry and rotation is good with a little coasting to get through the corner, good grip on exit and the gearbox spot on.



Tune 2. # DC 8
Honda S2000...1.11.092

The car drives and feels good but I had a hard time getting consistent laps, most were in the twelves, it could do with a bit more rotation, corner exit was good with plenty of traction .


Tune 3. # DC 8.5
Mazda RX8...1.10.862

Another good drive, does everything well, it's forgiving of small errors, has good rotation and grip.


Tune 4.# DC 8.5
Mazda RX8. 1.10.770

What can I say, another car that does all that is asked of it, safe, stable and great traction, full throttle could be used in most places without wheel spin, good work.


Tune 5 # DC 8.2
Honda S2000. 1.11.679
I felt pretty comfortable from the start with this one, it gets around the first sweeping left lot easier than the first four cars and does everything right but it's just not as quick as it feels.

Tune 6.# DC 8.5
Mazda RX 8. 1.11.300

The car felt well planted, corner rotation is good , traction was good, I lost most time from the corner after the tunnel to the last corner, I would loose half a second on that section in a drag race.

Tune 7.# DC 8.7
Mazda RX8. 1.10.927

Another good ride, feels stable, traction is great , it took a while to get the first corner entry speed right but when I did it just coasted that corner perfectly and then I had to stop myself looking for that little bit extra, good work.

Tune 8.# DC 8.5
Honda S2000. 1.11.843

Has good turn in for the right hander after the tunnel, probably the best so far at navigating that corner, good brakes and it looses just a bit with the traction not being as good as the Mazda's

Tune 9.# DC. 8.7
Mazda RX8. 1.11.108

I use auto so I couldn't do much about using the lower gears but they never caused a problem, traction was pretty good, corner rotation is good, I think that extra bit of weight in the back helps , it seems to turn just a little better than the others I've tested.
Good work.

Tune 10 # DC 8.5
Mazda RX8. 1.10.847

Quite a different drive to the others, the rear comes around quite easily witch helps getting around the right hander after the tunnel but I can't get on the throttle fully without loosing traction, no problem with the faster corners.



Tune 11#. DC 8.5
Honda S2000. 1.11.932

Took a while to get used to this one, it handles well, traction is good , can get on the gas early for good corner exit

I will get your times loaded tomorrow sir very consistant times there great job.

Tune #1 .
Very stable, good grib on the exit of corners gearbox spot on . Lap time 1:02.478 with driving force gt all driving aid's off only ABS 1

Which group sir? Dual or time attack?

 

[brian wolf]

Attention testers after correction of several errors in the sheet I'd like to request you give your times a once over make sure I didn't change or have one or more your times wrong. I am aware of the incorrect time entry in the GT3000 for one of the tuners under @Bowtie-muscle, I have not seen any others but more sets of eyes to check is a good thing.

My times are all ok. 👍

 

[LordJCS]

I gave the cars in the Duel class it's first initial shakedown yesterday just to get a feel for what i was in for. Today the real testing starts.

To be clear: Testing will be done in sessions. Every car in the group will get 3 10lap sessions to work out the in's and out's of them.

All aids off except for abs1. DS3, analog sticks and manual trans L1 R2.

 

[Otaliema]

I gave the cars in the Duel class it's first initial shakedown yesterday just to get a feel for what i was in for. Today the real testing starts.

To be clear: Testing will be done in sessions. Every car in the group will get 3 10lap sessions to work out the in's and out's of them.

All aids off except for abs1. DS3, analog sticks and manual trans L1 R2.

That is dedication to testing sir. I look forward to your results.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Here are the results of my testing, 10 to 15 laps per car, DS3 controler using left and right sticks .
This was a hard contest to score as all the tunes are very good and a credit to you tuners.


Tune 1. # DC. 8.7
Mazda RX8.. 1.10.018

The car feels quite stable and well planted, corner entry and rotation is good with a little coasting to get through the corner, good grip on exit and the gearbox spot on.



Tune 2. # DC 8
Honda S2000...1.11.092

The car drives and feels good but I had a hard time getting consistent laps, most were in the twelves, it could do with a bit more rotation, corner exit was good with plenty of traction .


Tune 3. # DC 8.5
Mazda RX8...1.10.862

Another good drive, does everything well, it's forgiving of small errors, has good rotation and grip.


Tune 4.# DC 8.5
Mazda RX8. 1.10.770

What can I say, another car that does all that is asked of it, safe, stable and great traction, full throttle could be used in most places without wheel spin, good work.


Tune 5 # DC 8.2
Honda S2000. 1.11.679
I felt pretty comfortable from the start with this one, it gets around the first sweeping left lot easier than the first four cars and does everything right but it's just not as quick as it feels.

Tune 6.# DC 8.5
Mazda RX 8. 1.11.300

The car felt well planted, corner rotation is good , traction was good, I lost most time from the corner after the tunnel to the last corner, I would loose half a second on that section in a drag race.

Tune 7.# DC 8.7
Mazda RX8. 1.10.927

Another good ride, feels stable, traction is great , it took a while to get the first corner entry speed right but when I did it just coasted that corner perfectly and then I had to stop myself looking for that little bit extra, good work.

Tune 8.# DC 8.5
Honda S2000. 1.11.843

Has good turn in for the right hander after the tunnel, probably the best so far at navigating that corner, good brakes and it looses just a bit with the traction not being as good as the Mazda's

Tune 9.# DC. 8.7
Mazda RX8. 1.11.108

I use auto so I couldn't do much about using the lower gears but they never caused a problem, traction was pretty good, corner rotation is good, I think that extra bit of weight in the back helps , it seems to turn just a little better than the others I've tested.
Good work.

Tune 10 # DC 8.5
Mazda RX8. 1.10.847

Quite a different drive to the others, the rear comes around quite easily witch helps getting around the right hander after the tunnel but I can't get on the throttle fully without loosing traction, no problem with the faster corners.



Tune 11#. DC 8.5
Honda S2000. 1.11.932

Took a while to get used to this one, it handles well, traction is good , can get on the gas early for good corner exit

Whoaa, really good time there, I can't believe my eyes My car, my car, my car finally got close to the top times ( close to 1 second behind is already very good ) Thank you as well for the review, splendid driving with DS3 👍

 

[Soren Jacquet]

I will get your times loaded tomorrow sir very consistant times there great job.

Which group sir? Dual or time attack?

Time Attack

 

[Soren Jacquet]

View attachment 303760

GT300 Time Attack: Tuner #2
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Car: Lexus IS350 GT300 Base Model '08
Paint: GT METALLIC 009
Rims: Standard

PP: 505
HP: 317 (322 Cv)
WEIGHT: 1 150 KG
WEIGHT DIST: 53:47
TIRE(S): Race Hard

GT Auto:
Oil Change - Not Allowed
Rigidity Improvement - Not Allowed
Front Aero - Not Allowed
Wing - Not Allowed
Flat Floor - Not Allowed

SUSPENSION: (TYPE Height-Adjustable, Fully Customizable)

RIDE HEIGHT – 40 / 42
SPRINGS – 17.95 / 17.15
COMP – 6 / 3
EXT – 4 / 5
ARB – 4 / 4
CAMBER – 0.8 / 0.0
TOE - -0.10 / -0.02

BRAKES: (TYPE Race)
BRAKES – 5 / 6

TRANS:Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)

(Reset Transmission)
FINAL TO – 5.500
TOP SPEED TO - 180km/h / 112 mph
1ST – 3.290
2ND – 2.320
3RD – 1.780
4TH – 1.425
5TH – 1.180
6TH – 1.005
FINAL – 5.075


LSD:Full Custom

INITIAL - 24
ACCEL - 14
DECEL - 8

CLUTCH TYPE: Standard
CARBON SHAFT: Standard

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Standard
COMPUTER - Standard
EXHAUST – Standard (Race)
MANIFOLD - Standard
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Standard
INTAKE TUNING - Standard
TURBO - Standard
POWER LIMITER – 100.0%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Standard
CARBON HOOD - Standard
WINDOW WEIGHT - Standard

BALLAST – 0 / 0%

DOWNFORCE – 200 / 390

Have testet his one.
Handles very well stable in Corners and a nice grib on the track , gearbox is good .
Best time on tsukuba with no aids only ABS 1 is 0:55.804

 

[DaBomm4]

To be clear: Testing will be done in sessions. Every car in the group will get 3 10lap sessions to work out the in's and out's of them.

The first round will be on comfort tires to really stretch the cars out right? Naw, extra work was fun but not for everyone.

I can't wait to read all the fun or troubles you have with my tune along with everyone else's tunes.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

I gave the cars in the Duel class it's first initial shakedown yesterday just to get a feel for what i was in for. Today the real testing starts.

To be clear: Testing will be done in sessions. Every car in the group will get 3 10lap sessions to work out the in's and out's of them.

All aids off except for abs1. DS3, analog sticks and manual trans L1 R2.

Now that is sounding interesting, cannot wait for your results.

 

[Otaliema]

Time Attack

Sounds good sir.
Do me a favor for results entry, could you please post them all in one post and in order tuner 1-7 so I can enter them easily and correctly. Thanks 👍

 

[Otaliema]

@LordJCS has been added to the testers list in the Dual class. this makes 11 official testers for the group, most ever for a GT6 FITT challenge for a single event (wasn't as easy as I had hoped but certainly not as hard as it could have been.)

 

[DolHaus]

Have testet his one.
Handles very well stable in Corners and a nice grib on the track , gearbox is good .
Best time on tsukuba with no aids only ABS 1 is 0:55.804

Don't forget to set the grip to Real, its not a big difference but it can be enough to change how a setup performs 👍

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Looking at the guesses so far, @TurnLeft and @nijalninja were you going to update or stick with the guesses you already made?

 

[LordJCS]

Testing is done.. Results will be posted after i grab some food.. Who knew FiTT testing made you hungry?

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Testing is done.. Results will be posted after i grab some food.. Who knew FiTT testing made you hungry?

or ..............looking forward to it.

 

[LordJCS]

or ..............looking forward to it.

Why? You worried?

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Why? You worried?

Maybe........maybe not

 

[LordJCS]

Alright guys, it's review time.


As stated in a previous post of mine the cars were all given 3 10lap sessions, all driving aids off except for abs set to 1. "Human" input device: DS3, analog sticks and manual trans with L1 R2.


This is, if my memory serves me correctly, my second time reviewing tunes for you guys. Just like the last time i had a blast doing this, so thanks for providing me with all the fun and tunes.


Let's get down to business shall we?

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Tune#1: RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.873
DC: 9,5

This one was fast,stable and reliable. Pretty much a "point and squirt" type of car. Good brakes, rotation was also good. It does however suffer from a tiny squint of understeer at certain key points on the track, other than that a rock solid tune.

Well done
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Tune#2 S2000

Best lap: 1:11.534
DC: 9,2

Had me a blast trying to figure this odd ball out. First thing that struck me was the standard gearbox, an interesting choice to say the least. I was worried at first that the gearing would mess with the rest of the setup, but that was not the case.

It handled the track quite well if you disregard it's tendencies to understeer at times when pushed, and oversteers when you go below 3rd gear. As stated i had a blast with this thing.
Good job!

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Tune#3 RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.887
DC: 9,3

I found this one to be fast and stable. Good amount of rotation when needed. However, it did not agree with the first right hander after the tunnel. Broke traction too easily so getting on the throttle had to be "feathered", which in turn cost me some valuable time. Still managed consistant 1:10's so i'm quite happy with that.

Well done.

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Tune#4 RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.720
DC: 9,5

I goofed on this one at first. Managed to run it with standard trans for the most part of the test and hit 1:11.173
and thought it was an odd choice of having standard gears on a rotary considering the narrow power band.

Had a quick look and noticed it WAS supposed to have a custom tranny setup i face palmed and shook my head in disbelief. I must be getting old..

Anywho... On with the custom tranny setting and set off on track. And just like that i was in the 1:10 territory.

The car now handled like a dream. Just point it where you want to go and off it goes. Nice job on this tune, really solid.


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Tune#5 S2000

Best lap: 1:10.995
DC: 9,6

Surprisingly fast this little thing.

The fastest of the S2000's, atleast in my hands anyway. Solid tune, good gearing. Had no issues with this one whatsoever.

Well done!

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Tune#6 RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.708
DC: 9,4
A well balanced tune. Good rotation. Fast and stable. You can easily throw this car around the track without any fuzz. This tune instills you with confidence.

Nice job!

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Tune#7 RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.844
DC: 9,2

Fun and stable tune. The gearing made it easy to handle the corner exits, especially with the pesky chicane after the tunnel. I could really step on the power in that section with upmost confidence that the car would stick.

Really amusing to drive. Well done.


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Tune#8 S2000

Best lap: 1:11.544
DC: 9,0

This one was a slidy little bugger. Had to take it by the scruff of it's neck to be able to post a decent time. It got really loose in the rear under braking, but once you were aware of it's behaviour it was easy to predict what it was going to do. Had some good 'ol fashioned fun flinging this one around the track.

Good job.


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Tune#9 RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.363
DC: 9,7

My fastest run was made with this one.

The handling... It's so forgiving. You can pretty much do what you want with it and it will gladly follow every command like the most loyal dog.

The sheer speed you can carry thru the corners, and the stability thru the tight bits put a giant smile on my face.

To whomever it may concern: This was a pure joy! Great work.

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Tune#10 RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.508
DC: 9,3

Fast and stable thru the whole session. Handles beautifuly. Enjoyed diving it.

Good job.

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Tune#11 S2000

Best lap: 1:11.892
DC: 8,6

Not sure what to feel about this one to be honest.. Normaly i can sense what a car wants from me but this one didn't really reveal what it wanted. I found that to be quite strange. It's like someone is trying to throw me a curveball.

If your goal was to confuse me, you've succeeded galantly.

You get a slightly higher score due to the confusion. Well done.

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There we go people. review is done.

Cheers and thanks for providing me with the fun and the tunes!

 

[brian wolf]

@LordJCS Thanks for testing, some great times there! 👍 And a big thankyou to all all the testers in both classes. And its great to see new testers joining in the fun!

I`m itching to get the final results now! This contest seems to be taking forever!

 

[LordJCS]

@LordJCS Thanks for testing, some great times there! 👍 And a big thankyou to all all the testers in both classes. And its great to see new testers joining in the fun!

I`m itching to get the final results now! This contest seems to be taking forever!

Just glad to help out. Besides, i get alot of tunes and practice while doing these things. It's a win-win situation.

 

[brian wolf]

Just glad to help out. Besides, i get alot of tunes and practice while doing these things. It's a win-win situation.

Win-win indeed! I learn as much from the testing phase of the contest as I do from tuning.👍

 

[Otaliema]

@LordJCS times entered. I have come down with a head cold so if you could please make sure I enered them correctly that would be great Scoring sheet
assuming i entered everything correctly current standings until @demonchilde posts his testing results.
GVE R Lap Time Podium
1 Tuner #4 1:10.922 +0.000
2 Tuner #10 1:10.964 +0.042
3 Tuner #7 1:11.084 +0.162
4 Tuner #9 1:11.154 +0.232
5 Tuner #3 1:11.173 +0.251

Drivers Choice Podium
1 Tuner #4 8.8
2 Tuner #7 8.7
3 Tuner #3 8.6
4 Tuner #9 8.6
5 Tuner #6 8.6

Fastest Lap at GVE R
1:10.018; Tuner #1's tune Driven By Macdog54

 

[LordJCS]

@LordJCS times entered. I have come down with a head cold so if you could please make sure I enered them correctly that would be great Scoring sheet
assuming i entered everything correctly current standings until @demonchilde posts his testing results.
GVE R Lap Time Podium
1 Tuner #4 1:10.922 +0.000
2 Tuner #10 1:10.964 +0.042
3 Tuner #7 1:11.084 +0.162
4 Tuner #9 1:11.154 +0.232
5 Tuner #3 1:11.173 +0.251

Drivers Choice Podium
1 Tuner #4 8.8
2 Tuner #7 8.7
3 Tuner #3 8.6
4 Tuner #9 8.6
5 Tuner #6 8.6

Fastest Lap at GVE R
1:10.018; Tuner #1's tune Driven By Macdog54

Not seeing the times.. I do however see the scoring.. Not sure where i'm supposed to look.

 

[Otaliema]

Scroll right your

Not seeing the times.. I do however see the scoring.. Not sure where i'm supposed to look.

22 columns to the right letters x,y

 

[LordJCS]

Scroll right your

22 columns to the right letters x,y

Ahh.. I see.. Yes, they be correct. It was the 7 instead of 1 that threw me for a loop. that's why i failed to see it.

 

[shaunm80]

Alright guys, it's review time.


As stated in a previous post of mine the cars were all given 3 10lap sessions, all driving aids off except for abs set to 1. "Human" input device: DS3, analog sticks and manual trans with L1 R2.


This is, if my memory serves me correctly, my second time reviewing tunes for you guys. Just like the last time i had a blast doing this, so thanks for providing me with all the fun and tunes.


Let's get down to business shall we?

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Tune#1: RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.873
DC: 9,5

This one was fast,stable and reliable. Pretty much a "point and squirt" type of car. Good brakes, rotation was also good. It does however suffer from a tiny squint of understeer at certain key points on the track, other than that a rock solid tune.

Well done
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Tune#2 S2000

Best lap: 1:11.534
DC: 9,2

Had me a blast trying to figure this odd ball out. First thing that struck me was the standard gearbox, an interesting choice to say the least. I was worried at first that the gearing would mess with the rest of the setup, but that was not the case.

It handled the track quite well if you disregard it's tendencies to understeer at times when pushed, and oversteers when you go below 3rd gear. As stated i had a blast with this thing.
Good job!

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Tune#3 RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.887
DC: 9,3

I found this one to be fast and stable. Good amount of rotation when needed. However, it did not agree with the first right hander after the tunnel. Broke traction too easily so getting on the throttle had to be "feathered", which in turn cost me some valuable time. Still managed consistant 1:10's so i'm quite happy with that.

Well done.

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Tune#4 RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.720
DC: 9,5

I goofed on this one at first. Managed to run it with standard trans for the most part of the test and hit 1:11.173
and thought it was an odd choice of having standard gears on a rotary considering the narrow power band.

Had a quick look and noticed it WAS supposed to have a custom tranny setup i face palmed and shook my head in disbelief. I must be getting old..

Anywho... On with the custom tranny setting and set off on track. And just like that i was in the 1:10 territory.

The car now handled like a dream. Just point it where you want to go and off it goes. Nice job on this tune, really solid.


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Tune#5 S2000

Best lap: 1:10.995
DC: 9,6

Surprisingly fast this little thing.

The fastest of the S2000's, atleast in my hands anyway. Solid tune, good gearing. Had no issues with this one whatsoever.

Well done!

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Tune#6 RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.708
DC: 9,4
A well balanced tune. Good rotation. Fast and stable. You can easily throw this car around the track without any fuzz. This tune instills you with confidence.

Nice job!

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Tune#7 RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.844
DC: 9,2

Fun and stable tune. The gearing made it easy to handle the corner exits, especially with the pesky chicane after the tunnel. I could really step on the power in that section with upmost confidence that the car would stick.

Really amusing to drive. Well done.


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Tune#8

Best lap: 1:11.544
DC: 9,0

This one was a slidy little bugger. Had to take it by the scruff of it's neck to be able to post a decent time. It got really loose in the rear under braking, but once you were aware of it's behaviour it was easy to predict what it was going to do. Had some good 'ol fashioned fun flinging this one around the track.

Good job.


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Tune#9 RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.363
DC: 9,7

My fastest run was made with this one.

The handling... It's so forgiving. You can pretty much do what you want with it and it will gladly follow every command like the most loyal dog.

The sheer speed you can carry thru the corners, and the sstability thru the tight bits put a giant smile on my face.

To whomever it may concern: This was a pure joy! Great work.

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Tune#10 RX-8

Best lap: 1:10.508
DC: 9,3

Fast and stable thru the whole session. Handles beautifuly. Enjoyed diving it.

Good job.

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Tune#11 S2000

Best lap: 1:11.892
DC: 8,6

Not sure what to feel about this one to be honest.. Normaly i can sense what a car wants from me but this one didn't really reveal what it wanted. I found that to be quite strange. It's like someone is trying to throw me a curveball.

If your goal was to confuse me, you've succeeded galantly.

You get a slightly higher score due to the confusion. Well done.

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There we go people. review is done.

Cheers and thanks for providing me with the fun and the tunes!

Great job testing once again, You are very consistent with your times and a great a edition to the testers that FITT has. I hope to see you again in the next challenge. On a side note, thanks for the review of my tune and will you be doing any guessing on whose tune belongs to whom?

 

[LordJCS]

Great job testing once again, You are very consistent with your times and a great a edition to the testers that FITT has. I hope to see you again in the next challenge. On a side note, thanks for the review of my tune and will you be doing any guessing on whose tune belongs to whom?

Thanks for the kind words. I will most likely test for the next event. As for the guessing part.. My brain is drained from analyzing the different behaviour of the tunes in order to adapt to them, so no guessing from me this time around.

 

[biffa3]

Good stuff from @LordJCS and @macdog54. Great to see some new blood around.

 

[TurnLeft]

Looking at the guesses so far, @TurnLeft and @nijalninja were you going to update or stick with the guesses you already made?

Yup, I`m sticking with my original choices , sorry for the long delay, they at work when I`m on a forum, (still at work, don`t talk to loud )

@LordJCS times entered. I have come down with a head cold so if you could please make sure I enered them correctly that would be great Scoring sheet
assuming i entered everything correctly current standings

OTANIZE :The word otanize entails different meanings and usages relative to how it is conceptually applied. The concrete meaning of the Latin word "otanize" is "wandering" or "straying". Unlike an illusion, an error or a mistake can sometimes be dispelled through knowledge (knowing that one is looking at a mirage and not at real water does not make the mirage disappear). For example, a person who uses too much of an ingredient in a recipe and has a failed product can learn the right amount to use and avoid repeating the mistake. However, some otanize can occur even when individuals have the required knowledge to perform a task correctly. Examples include forgetting to collect change after buying chocolate from a vending machine, forgetting the original document after making photocopies, and forgetting to turn the gas off after cooking a meal. Some otanize occur when an individual is distracted by something else.

No hard feelings my friend , but don`t give munitions to someone who you know will use them.