FITT: Blind Tuning Challenge! Congrats to Bowtie-muscle & Otaliema! Tuners Revealed!!

[Otaliema]

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View attachment 308184 due to aggravating circumstances my client will abide by the 5th amendment and will keep silent, and will not reveal his sources to anyone. I would call my next witness Mr.@DrEmmettBrown to explain but unfortunately he's out of the country, he has though left this document explaining the severity of my clients problem

" This man is suffering from a deficit in memory caused by brain damage disease, by the use of various sedatives and hypnotic drugs. The memory can be either wholly or partially lost due to the extent of damage that was caused. There are two main types of amnesia: retrograde and anterograde amnesia. Retrograde amnesia is the inability to retrieve information that was acquired before a particular date, usually the date of an accident or operation. In some cases the memory loss can extend back decades, while in others the person may lose only a few months of memory. Anterograde amnesia is the inability to transfer new information from the short-term store into the long-term store. People with this type of amnesia cannot remember things for long periods of time. These two types are not mutually exclusive. Both can occur within a patient at one time. Case studies, such as this man, show that both types of amnesia can occur simultaneously. Case studies also show that amnesia is typically associated with damage to the medial temporal lobe. In addition, specific areas of the hippocampus are involved with memory. Research has also shown that when areas of the diencephalon are damaged, amnesia can occur. Recent studies have shown a correlation between deficiency of RbAp48 protien and memory loss. Scientists were able to find that mice with damaged memory have a lower level of RbAp48 protein compared to normal, healthy mice. In people suffering with amnesia, the ability to recall immediate information is still retained, and they may still be able to form new memories. However, a severe reduction in the ability to learn new material and retrieve old information can be observed. Patients can learn new procedural knowledge. Amnesic patients also retain substantial intellectual, linguistic, and social skill despite profound impairments in the ability to recall specific information encountered in prior learning episodes."

so I ask you Mr. Judge DolHaus to dismiss this case. Thank you.

How long did it take you to find that medical document?

 

[DolHaus]

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View attachment 308184 due to aggravating circumstances my client will abide by the 5th amendment and will keep silent, and will not reveal his sources to anyone. I would call my next witness Mr.@DrEmmettBrown to explain but unfortunately he's out of the country, he has though left this document explaining the severity of my clients problem

" This man is suffering from a deficit in memory caused by brain damage disease, by the use of various sedatives and hypnotic drugs. The memory can be either wholly or partially lost due to the extent of damage that was caused. There are two main types of amnesia: retrograde and anterograde amnesia. Retrograde amnesia is the inability to retrieve information that was acquired before a particular date, usually the date of an accident or operation. In some cases the memory loss can extend back decades, while in others the person may lose only a few months of memory. Anterograde amnesia is the inability to transfer new information from the short-term store into the long-term store. People with this type of amnesia cannot remember things for long periods of time. These two types are not mutually exclusive. Both can occur within a patient at one time. Case studies, such as this man, show that both types of amnesia can occur simultaneously. Case studies also show that amnesia is typically associated with damage to the medial temporal lobe. In addition, specific areas of the hippocampus are involved with memory. Research has also shown that when areas of the diencephalon are damaged, amnesia can occur. Recent studies have shown a correlation between deficiency of RbAp48 protien and memory loss. Scientists were able to find that mice with damaged memory have a lower level of RbAp48 protein compared to normal, healthy mice. In people suffering with amnesia, the ability to recall immediate information is still retained, and they may still be able to form new memories. However, a severe reduction in the ability to learn new material and retrieve old information can be observed. Patients can learn new procedural knowledge. Amnesic patients also retain substantial intellectual, linguistic, and social skill despite profound impairments in the ability to recall specific information encountered in prior learning episodes."

so I ask you Mr. Judge DolHaus to dismiss this case. Thank you.

Having examined the case I feel I am left with no option but to prosecute the defendant to the fullest extent of the law. You have failed to present an eligible defence and your insanity plea falls upon deaf ears*, you have continually strived to circumvent the law and made a mockery of the legal system.

*Dr Grover is not a doctor recognised by any medical organisation (honorary degree from Barnett College)


I sentence you to life of chronic understeer, the duration of your incarceration will be served at our containment facility at the Nurburgring but you may be eligible for transfer to a custom created track at a later unspecified date (care of K Yamauchi) as a reward for good performance.

 

[TurnLeft]

How long did it take you to find that medical document?

not long, wiki - amnesia , took longer taking out the links .

Having examined the case I feel I am left with no option but to prosecute the defendant to the fullest extent of the law. You have failed to present an eligible defence and your insanity plea falls upon deaf ears*, you have continually strived to circumvent the law and made a mockery of the legal system.
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*Dr Grover is not a doctor recognised by any medical organisation (honorary degree from Barnett College)


I sentence you to life of chronic understeer, the duration of your incarceration will be served at our containment facility at the Nurburgring but you may be eligible for transfer to a custom created track at a later unspecified date (care of K Yamauchi) as a reward for good performance.


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, great man, just great, FF cars for life. 👍

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

The Duel Challenge Unofficial Review by DaBomm4
Tested with ABS 1, no other aids, DS3

Since I cannot test for scoring purposes in this challenge I decided to have a little fun with the rules, I tested all of the cars on Comfort Soft and Sports Hard tires.


Tuner # 1 RX-8
Best Lap CS: 1:16.386
Best Lap SH: 1:12.882
DC Score:8
Comments: On CS tires, this car was fun, the right throttle and steering control and the car is spot on, a little too much throttle or steering angle out of a corner, roasting the tires.
On SH tires, the same stands true, but I could throw the car into the corner a little more.

Tuner # 2 S2000
Best Lap CS: 1:16.876
Best Lap SH: 1:13.935
DC Score: 7
Comments: On CS tires, front end understeer and acceleration made this tune hard to go fast.
On SH tires, slow acceleration, the car wants to drift high speed corners.

Tuner # 3 RX-8
Best Lap CS: 1:15.224
Best Lap SH: 1:12.356
DC Score: 10
Comments: On CS tires, the car is stable, easy to drive, only starts spinning if you try to.
On SH tires, feels like I'm glued to the fast track, can go flat out everywhere with no caution.

Tuner # 4 RX-8
Best Lap CS: 1:16.012
Best Lap SH: 1:13.214
DC Score: 9
Comments: On CS tires, the car feels very similar to tuner # 3's tune except it does not seem to have as much acceleration.
On SH tires, very good corner attack speed and handling, but the acceleration cannot compete coming into the straights.

Tuner # 5 S2000
Best Lap CS: 1:16.224
Best Lap SH: 1:13.219
DC Score: 9
Comments: On CS tires, mild throttle control needed, slides nicely but not always at the right times.
On SH tires, felt very solid around the track, good slip/grip range, able to go flat out on most of the course.

Tuner # 6 RX-8
Best Lap CS: 1:15.430
Best Lap SH: 1:13.013
DC Score: 9.5
Comments: On CS tires, feels very smooth, easy to attack corners with little fear of wheelspin.
On SH tires, very tight around the track.

Tuner # 7 RX-8
Best Lap CS: 1:15.473
Best Lap SH: 1:12.908
DC Score: 9
Comments: On CS tires, feels more loose and more prone to wheelspin.
On SH tires, feels like there is a little front end understeer on acceleration, otherwise the car felt tight on the track.

Tuner # 8 S2000
Best Lap CS: 1:15.866
Best Lap SH: 1:13.840
DC Score: 8.5
Comments: On CS tires, the rear has a tendency to oversteer on the whole track but is very controllable if you work with it.
On SH tires, a real struggle to get a fast lap compared to on CS tires, @biffa3 must be onto something with the low power on this tune. The oversteer has faded, but in turn has brought some front understeer.

Tuner # 9 RX-8
Best Lap CS: 1:16.010
Best Lap SH: 1:13.218
DC Score: 9
Comments: On CS tires, steering and throttle are touchy, once I got use to that, this tune was fun to slip and drift around.
On SH tires, the car would rather be sliding sideways instead of speeding through the corners, still fun just not as fast.

Tuner # 10 RX-8
Best Lap CS: 1:15.787
Best Lap SH: 1:12.486
DC Score: 8.5
Comments: On CS tires, all this tune wants to do is go sideways, either by front end understeer or power oversteer. My best lap was when I quit trying to drive fast and tried to drive safe instead.
On SH tires, the understeer has disappeared and the oversteer is reduced but still present on apex to exit in some corners.

Tuner # 11 S2000
Best Lap CS: 1:16.685
Best Lap SH: 1:13.927
DC Score:8.5
Comments: On CS tires, it has a drift/grip feel to it but there is a hint of understeer. Fun around the track.
On SH tires, understeer did not go away, fun and stable around the track.

Edit: BONUS
Just for those curious, tunes and positions by tire for my testing only.

Tuner CS SH
Tune 1 9 3
Tune 2 11 11
Tune 3 1 1
Tune 4 7 6
Tune 5 8 8
Tune 6 2 5
Tune 7 3 4
Tune 8 5 9
Tune 9 6 7
Tune 10 4 2
Tune 11 10 10

Thank you for giving my car a go with both tire compound Understeer seems to be prevalent on some of the cars, may I ask how much push on entry that you consider the car understeer ? Do some of them still plow even when coasting ( lower front grip ) or markedly reduced entry speed than other cars or simply has lower entry speed than others who have less or do not understeer at all ?

The Dual Tuners

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Tuner #1 - RX-8 Tune

Laptime;1:12.501 DC;7.5

Impression of the tune;This was a very stable car, but it was sluggish to turn in. It did how ever hold what ever line I asked of it for a turn, the only “problem” turn was T5 it didn’t like navigating the hard slow right hander very much. Well done on the rest of the track.



Tuner #2 - S2000 Tune

Laptime;1:13.548 DC;8.0

Impression of the tune;Well balanced, great turn in. Just didn’t want to hold the corners very fast. It would understeer if I really pushed the car. The lack of a custom trans also hurt the car with lower acceleration and top end than other cars.



Tuner #3 - RX-8 Tune

Laptime;1:12.994 DC;6

Impression of the tune; This car was interesting. It had fantastic stability but low grip at exit in the turns. Building understeer from mid to exit meant I couldn’t take any turn flat out and constant braking adjustments where required for turns 1-2, I found that if I got on the throttle at or just after the apex it would spin. Overall this is a good car but have to slow down a lot for the turns to combat the understeer that is ever present in the tune.



Tuner #4 - RX-8 Tune

Laptime;1:12.342 DC;6.5

Impression of the tune;This was a grip monster. But that was double edged sword, it had loads of grip right upto the limit then nothing. So driving a the limit was a bit tricky as you be fine fine fine sliding with no notable warning from the car. If I got everything right it was a great drive would carve up the corners like butter, but on the same token, if I took anything than the line it wanted, I found myself struggling to make the turn. Maybe a little looser and it would have been fantastic.



Tuner #5 - S2000 Tune

Laptime;1:13.777 DC;7.3

Impression of the tune; Well balanced. I could take turns 1 and 2 faster than any other car but it was prone to oversteer on exit due to weight shift on acceleration. good top end and acceleration I just had to wait a little longer on exit or be a gear higher to get on the gas sooner.


Tuner #6 - RX-8 Tune

Laptime;1:12.260 DC; 7.1

Impression of the tune; Very interesting tune It had understeer or oversteer at exit based on how entered the turn. If you were hot it was understeer if you were cold it was oversteer. It was touchy on it’s entry speed +/- 3 km/h was the difference on a good corner versus a bad corner for this car.



Tuner #7 - RX-8 Tune

Laptime;1:12.146 DC;8.0

Impression of the tune;Slick and stable is the best way to describe this car. I found it to have a bit of turn in hesitation but once you got it turning it would keep turning. It would slide a turn or hold a tight line just depending on how you put it in. It was well balanced overall. As long as braking points where hit it was a great car.



Tuner #8 - S2000 Tune

Laptime;1:13.553 DC;5

Impression of the tune;This is a hot lap tune. I ran 13 laps, 3 were green. It had great turn in, rotation and stability at entry and mid corner but it all fell apart for me at exit, the throttle control needed was so precise I had issues even on a wheel. Just a tiny bit too much and I was off in an oversteer spin I couldn’t save. More laps I could get it faster maybe even close to the RX-8’s in time.



Tuner #9 - RX-8 Tune

Laptime;1:12.928 DC;7.5

Impression of the tune; This car was touchy! if I pushed it hard enough to get rotation I was battling hammer like oversteer due to the added weight in the boot. I lost more laps at T2 than other car due to this. It had great feel but it really wanted to spin. and it just felt slower as well. couldn’t put my finger on it maybe the added weight?



Tuner #10 - RX-8 Tune

Laptime;1:12.247 DC;7.2

Impression of the tune;This car was very lazy on entry. But it held a line very well if I got everything right it just glided around the track with little effort. If I missed my entry even by a little recovery was do able but at a major cost of time and speed. The transmission could have better balanced in 1st and 2nd gear 3-6 were great even smooth power.



Tuner #11 - S2000 Tune

Laptime;1:13.556 DC;8.5

Impression of the tune;The added weight this car had is what hurt it. If it was the 1100kg like the rest it would have been a serious contender for the podium even aginst the RX-8. It held any line I asked it to as long as I was smooth with it i could blast any corner at a higher rate of speed than any other car, but the slow acceleration due to it’s weight killed it Very well done

Thank you as well for the test Similar impression that I have gathered thus far. I should have added a small note on my tune about how to make the most of the car, but that will give away which car I tuned

 

[nijalninja]

I am testing tune #11 tonight and will post my results for all cars tomorrow.

I have lots of feedback and opinions regarding the cars, and my DC scoring and best times may not be entirely consistent. So I apologize in advance if my feedback contradicts that of all tests so far.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

So can we assume that your tune is not currently placed in the top spot since you mention addressing issues?

Just fyi...you are violating the AUP Keith by having two accounts. You might wanna pick one and delete the other.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Having examined the case I feel I am left with no option but to prosecute the defendant to the fullest extent of the law. You have failed to present an eligible defence and your insanity plea falls upon deaf ears*, you have continually strived to circumvent the law and made a mockery of the legal system.
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*Dr Grover is not a doctor recognised by any medical organisation (honorary degree from Barnett College)


I sentence you to life of chronic understeer, the duration of your incarceration will be served at our containment facility at the Nurburgring but you may be eligible for transfer to a custom created track at a later unspecified date (care of K Yamauchi) as a reward for good performance.


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Little hard on the Beav last night weren't you Ward?
Personally, I would have sent him somewhere else, like, I don't know.........Daytona Super Speedway. Let him TURNLEFT only.

Thank you for giving my car a go with both tire compound Understeer seems to be prevalent on some of the cars, may I ask how much push on entry that you consider the car understeer ? Do some of them still plow even when coasting ( lower front grip ) or markedly reduced entry speed than other cars or simply has lower entry speed than others who have less or do not understeer at all ?




Thank you as well for the test Similar impression that I have gathered thus far. I should have added a small note on my tune about how to make the most of the car, but that will give away which car I tuned

You did leave a note in tuning, as did 3 others that I did not copy over to hide your identity. I was thinking of releasing them soon. One will absolutely give away the tune, the others not so much but if I do not say which tune they belong to..........

I am testing tune #11 tonight and will post my results for all cars tomorrow.

I have lots of feedback and opinions regarding the cars, and my DC scoring and best times may not be entirely consistent. So I apologize in advance if my feedback contradicts that of all tests so far.

That is the point of having multiple testers. One tester may be really good in one tune with other testers struggling with the same. Or, one may struggle with a few that others do not. Different driving styles, and likes/dislikes are what make it a Challenge. Please the most and have them go fast, you win.

 

[mgo]

Sorry for the delay guys, I got t busy at work someone is missing so I took double shift.

There is my reviews for the duel :

Tuner #1
Time – 1:12:016 DC 8
Very good job on the gearbox - lost of grip make the car not easy to over drive.

Tuner #2
Time – 1:15:037 DC 7.6
This tune may not be suitable with my driving – I think rear need bit more grip - standard gearbox might be the reason I could not get in the car

Tuner #3
Time – 1:11:203 DC 9
I had great time driving this tune – I think he is one that have the Racing Style – a bit of oversteer (manageable when you get use to the setup) - some times not getting in the curve strongly as I expected

Tuner #4
Time – 1:10:905 DC 9.6
This tune match my driving - was very easy to handle – when I got use to it fleet really nice and fun to push the car to the limits

Tuner #5
Time – 1:11:835 DC 8
Smooth gearbox – sometimes the grip made it not easy to push in corners

Tuner #6
Time – 1:11:651 DC 9.5
Nice balanced tune - easy to drive and easy to push the limits – maybe need a bit more power - the car has a very good response if loosing grip from over or under steer when over driving it's like always possible to get back on and still running through the time.

Tuner #7
Time – 1:11:402 DC 9.6
The car is well balanced grearbox is great this tune has a very good behavior in last curve

Tuner #8
Time – 1:12:161 DC 7.6
This tune might not feet my driving - gear seems to long for me – I felt the car unbalanced

Tuner #9
Time – 1:11:324 DC 9.7
Great car easy to handle – very good gearbox – got a bit of oversteer but could by over driving it

Tuner #10
Time – 1:11:337 DC 9.8
Every things good in this tune for this review is my favorite setup – gearbox very competitive a very good chassis behavior and responses – the car can be push to the limit 👍

Tuner #11
Time – 1:12:838 DC 8
This tune might not feet my driving – gear is good for the track – I think it need a bit more grip to be over drive

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

You did leave a note in tuning, as did 3 others that I did not copy over to hide your identity. I was thinking of releasing them soon. One will absolutely give away the tune, the others not so much but if I do not say which tune they belong to..........

My notes didn't say anything about how to drive the car, but instead revealed who tuned the car with a lap time, thankfully you didn't include it with the tune posted here oops, I may said too much about my own notes

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Sorry for the delay guys, I got t busy at work someone is missing so I took double shift.

There is my reviews for the duel :

Tuner #1
Time – 1:12:016 DC 8
Very good job on the gearbox - lost of grip make the car not easy to over drive.

Tuner #2
Time – 1:15:037 DC 7.6
This tune may not be suitable with my driving – I think rear need bit more grip - standard gearbox might be the reason I could not get in the car

Tuner #3
Time – 1:11:203 DC 9
I had great time driving this tune – I think he is one that have the Racing Style – a bit of oversteer (manageable when you get use to the setup) - some times not getting in the curve strongly as I expected

Tuner #4
Time – 1:10:905 DC 9.6
This tune match my driving - was very easy to handle – when I got use to it fleet really nice and fun to push the car to the limits

Tuner #5
Time – 1:11:835 DC 8
Smooth gearbox – sometimes the grip made it not easy to push in corners

Tuner #6
Time – 1:11:651 DC 9.5
Nice balanced tune - easy to drive and easy to push the limits – maybe need a bit more power - the car has a very good response if loosing grip from over or under steer when over driving it's like always possible to get back on and still running through the time.

Tuner #7
Time – 1:11:402 DC 9.6
The car is well balanced grearbox is great this tune has a very good behavior in last curve

Tuner #8
Time – 1:12:161 DC 7.6
This tune might not feet my driving - gear seems to long for me – I felt the car unbalanced

Tuner #9
Time – 1:11:324 DC 9.7
Great car easy to handle – very good gearbox – got a bit of oversteer but could by over driving it

Tuner #10
Time – 1:11:337 DC 9.8
Every things good in this tune for this review is my favorite setup – gearbox very competitive a very good chassis behavior and responses – the car can be push to the limit 👍

Tuner #11
Time – 1:12:838 DC 8
This tune might not feet my driving – gear is good for the track – I think it need a bit more grip to be over drive

Outstanding review you have there:tup: Well done my friend, thank you for testing. Hope you enjoy playing around with all these different tunes.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

My notes didn't say anything about how to drive the car, but instead revealed who tuned the car with a lap time, thankfully you didn't include it with the tune posted here oops, I may said too much about my own notes

If I did not say which tune it belonged to near the end, it won't matter too much. But yeah, if I left it it would have given it all away from the jump. But yours was not the only one or the one I was referring to that was a give away, so I guess there were 2

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Sorry for the delay guys, I got t busy at work someone is missing so I took double shift.

There is my reviews for the duel :

Tuner #1
Time – 1:12:016 DC 8
Very good job on the gearbox - lost of grip make the car not easy to over drive.

Tuner #2
Time – 1:15:037 DC 7.6
This tune may not be suitable with my driving – I think rear need bit more grip - standard gearbox might be the reason I could not get in the car

Tuner #3
Time – 1:11:203 DC 9
I had great time driving this tune – I think he is one that have the Racing Style – a bit of oversteer (manageable when you get use to the setup) - some times not getting in the curve strongly as I expected

Tuner #4
Time – 1:10:905 DC 9.6
This tune match my driving - was very easy to handle – when I got use to it fleet really nice and fun to push the car to the limits

Tuner #5
Time – 1:11:835 DC 8
Smooth gearbox – sometimes the grip made it not easy to push in corners

Tuner #6
Time – 1:11:651 DC 9.5
Nice balanced tune - easy to drive and easy to push the limits – maybe need a bit more power - the car has a very good response if loosing grip from over or under steer when over driving it's like always possible to get back on and still running through the time.

Tuner #7
Time – 1:11:402 DC 9.6
The car is well balanced grearbox is great this tune has a very good behavior in last curve

Tuner #8
Time – 1:12:161 DC 7.6
This tune might not feet my driving - gear seems to long for me – I felt the car unbalanced

Tuner #9
Time – 1:11:324 DC 9.7
Great car easy to handle – very good gearbox – got a bit of oversteer but could by over driving it

Tuner #10
Time – 1:11:337 DC 9.8
Every things good in this tune for this review is my favorite setup – gearbox very competitive a very good chassis behavior and responses – the car can be push to the limit 👍

Tuner #11
Time – 1:12:838 DC 8
This tune might not feet my driving – gear is good for the track – I think it need a bit more grip to be over drive

Glad one of the tune fits you like a glove, sadly it might not be mine, no, make that not mine Anyway, thanks for driving the tunes 👍

 

[TurnLeft]

Little hard on the Beav last night weren't you Ward?
Personally, I would have sent him somewhere else, like, I don't know.........Daytona Super Speedway. Let him TURNLEFT only.

Your really get too good with your responses, thanks, now I'll be laughing my way to work.👍

 

[Otaliema]

Sorry for the delay guys, I got t busy at work someone is missing so I took double shift.

There is my reviews for the duel :

Tuner #1
Time – 1:12:016 DC 8
Very good job on the gearbox - lost of grip make the car not easy to over drive.

Tuner #2
Time – 1:15:037 DC 7.6
This tune may not be suitable with my driving – I think rear need bit more grip - standard gearbox might be the reason I could not get in the car

Tuner #3
Time – 1:11:203 DC 9
I had great time driving this tune – I think he is one that have the Racing Style – a bit of oversteer (manageable when you get use to the setup) - some times not getting in the curve strongly as I expected

Tuner #4
Time – 1:10:905 DC 9.6
This tune match my driving - was very easy to handle – when I got use to it fleet really nice and fun to push the car to the limits

Tuner #5
Time – 1:11:835 DC 8
Smooth gearbox – sometimes the grip made it not easy to push in corners

Tuner #6
Time – 1:11:651 DC 9.5
Nice balanced tune - easy to drive and easy to push the limits – maybe need a bit more power - the car has a very good response if loosing grip from over or under steer when over driving it's like always possible to get back on and still running through the time.

Tuner #7
Time – 1:11:402 DC 9.6
The car is well balanced grearbox is great this tune has a very good behavior in last curve

Tuner #8
Time – 1:12:161 DC 7.6
This tune might not feet my driving - gear seems to long for me – I felt the car unbalanced

Tuner #9
Time – 1:11:324 DC 9.7
Great car easy to handle – very good gearbox – got a bit of oversteer but could by over driving it

Tuner #10
Time – 1:11:337 DC 9.8
Every things good in this tune for this review is my favorite setup – gearbox very competitive a very good chassis behavior and responses – the car can be push to the limit 👍

Tuner #11
Time – 1:12:838 DC 8
This tune might not feet my driving – gear is good for the track – I think it need a bit more grip to be over drive

Great job sir. Looking at tuner #2 your time is way off pace from everyone else. If you have a little time could you give it a few more laps just to see if you improve the lap time a little? @Bowtie-muscle call or not on tho. Not that it will matter much they are second to last. Just for sake of consistency.
Loading your times now.

 

[Otaliema]

Updated ranking for the GVR R The Dual class.
Tuner #4 is making up ground fast, they found the magic line through the tunnel and gained over a tenth on the leader. But tuner #10 found some time on the back straight and opened up a little over second place.
GVE R Lap Time Podium
1 Tuner #10 1:11.163 +0.000
2 Tuner #7 1:11.192 +0.029
3 Tuner #4 1:11.215 +0.052
4 Tuner #6 1:11.386 +0.223
5 Tuner #3 1:11.461 +0.298

Drivers Choice Podium
1 Tuner #7 9.12
2 Tuner #9 8.71
3 Tuner #4 8.46
4 Tuner #6 8.42
5 Tie Tie

Fastest Lap at GVE R
1:10.243; Tuner #10's tune Driven By Lionheart2113

 

[useauget]

Duel Tuner #4
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this tune makes me feel like a better driver than I am,thank you #4
#4

Car: RX-8 Type S '07
Paint: Juane Sirius 2 (Megane Trophy)
Rims: Rays GTS. (Black/Dark Gray)

PP: 450
HP: 262
WEIGHT: 1100kg
WEIGHT DIST: 50:50
TIRE(S): Sports Hard

GT Auto:
Oil Change - Not Allowed
Rigidity Improvement - Not Allowed
Front Aero - Not Allowed
Wing - Not Allowed
Flat Floor - Not Allowed

SUSPENSION: (Full Custom)
RIDE HEIGHT - 90 /90
SPRINGS - 6.75 / 8.00
COMP - 4 / 6
EXT - 8 / 5
ARB - 4 / 4
CAMBER - 0.0 / 0.0
TOE - -0.12 / 0.04

BRAKES: (Racing)
BRAKES - 5 / 4

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
Reset to Default - THEN
FINAL TO - 6.000
TOP SPEED TO - 112mph/180kph
1ST - 3.500
2ND - 2.500
3RD - 1.900
4TH - 1.525
5TH - 1.275
6TH - 1.100
FINAL - 4.300


LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 8
ACCEL - 8
DECEL - 12

CLUTCH TYPE: Twin-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: Installed
TORQUE CENTERING DIFF:

POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Standard
COMPUTER - Standard
EXHAUST - Semi-Racing
MANIFOLD - Standard
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - Standard
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - Normal
POWER LIMITER - 94.9%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Stage 3
CARBON HOOD - Carbon
WINDOW WEIGHT - Reduction Installed

BALLAST - 28kg @ Position 0
DOWNFORCE - n/a

NOTE:

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Great job sir. Looking at tuner #2 your time is way off pace from everyone else. If you have a little time could you give it a few more laps just to see if you improve the lap time a little? @Bowtie-muscle call or not on tho. Not that it will matter much they are second to last. Just for sake of consistency.
Loading your times now.

I did notice the time, two things though: the tune is near the bottom and it did have a stock trans. Up to @mgo though. @mgo, for fairness, if you could just have another look at the tune, say 3-5laps when you get a chance. If nothing changes then no problem. Thank you.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Thank you, I am sure when the tuner sees that it will make him happy.

 

[Otaliema]

Testers that have not yet reported results.
The Dual
@demonchilde, @mgo, @DolHaus, @nijalninja, @Wydopen, if two more sign up we will will hit 11 testers for a single group which to my knowledge would be the most for a GT6 FITT challenge.

GT300 Time attack
@biffa3, @brian wolf, @macdog54, @Lionheart2113.
Would need 3 testers in this group to reach 11 testers.

 

[DaBomm4]

Testers that have not yet reported results.
The Dual
@demonchilde, @mgo, @DolHaus, @nijalninja, @Wydopen, if two more sign up we will will hit 11 testers for a single group which to my knowledge would be the most for a GT6 FITT challenge.

GT300 Time attack
@biffa3, @brian wolf, @macdog54, @Lionheart2113.
Would need 3 testers in this group to reach 11 testers.

I had some free time and quickly scanned all of the challenges, my observation is a total of 9 for one class. That is still a wow factor.

 

[Lionheart2113]

Nice job @mgo that 2nd tune is a little out there, but if the glove doesn't fit...
@Otaliema I will be able to start the GT this weekend, but with my anniversary & V-Day, you know how it's gotta go!

 

[Wydopen]

I have to say kudos to the folks hitting 1.10s in the duel cars. Makes me feel like a ham fisted controller jockey. I am about halfway done with testing and should make my final report sometime over the weekend.

 

[mgo]

Anyway, thanks for driving the tunes

was pleasure

Hope you enjoy playing around with all these different tunes.

yes I did

If you have a little time could you give it a few more laps just to see if you improve the lap time a little?

or fairness, if you could just have another look at the tune, say 3-5laps when you get a chance. If nothing changes then no problem. Thank you

I was thinking about it 👍

 

[Lionheart2113]

@Otaliema I just realized that I screwed up the time for tuner 9, I fixed it on my post, but the time should be 1.10.859, not 1:11.859. Sorry mate and to tuner 9 as well...whoever you might be!

 

[Otaliema]

Nice job @mgo that 2nd tune is a little out there, but if the glove doesn't fit...
@Otaliema I will be able to start the GT this weekend, but with my anniversary & V-Day, you know how it's gotta go!

If I catch you online on your anniversary I'll fly Britain and slap you personally as for V-day that's an over priced holiday that really means nothing. I mean why spend upwards of 60% more for the same stuff. All to show your SO that you love them? You should be doing that everday your with them. And if your not go get your head examined

@Otaliema I just realized that I screwed up the time for tuner 9, I fixed it on my post, but the time should be 1.10.859, not 1:11.859. Sorry mate and to tuner 9 as well...whoever you might be!

I will update that in a bit.

 

[Lionheart2113]

If I catch you online on your anniversary I'll fly Britain and slap you personally as for V-day that's an over priced holiday that really means nothing. I mean why spend upwards of 60% more for the same stuff. All to show your SO that you love them? You should be doing that everday your with them. And if your not go get your head examined

It's only 60% more if you buy them now...50% off if you bought and hid them 11 months ago!

 

[Otaliema]

It's only 60% more if you buy them now...50% off if you bought and hid them 11 months ago!

well if you have to celebrate the day that's the way to do it. just be sure not to get anything with a date on it

 

[Otaliema]

@Otaliema I just realized that I screwed up the time for tuner 9, I fixed it on my post, but the time should be 1.10.859, not 1:11.859. Sorry mate and to tuner 9 as well...whoever you might be!

time updated no change in the podium standing how ever tuner #9 has moved into 4th spot 0.190 out of the lead.

 

[DolHaus]

Class 1:
The Duel ​

Tuner #1
1:10.403
DC - 9.5

Turn 1+2
-The car felt wonderful through here, really well balanced chassis which allowed me to use brake and throttle inputs to control the rotation of the car rather than just relying on the steering alone. The car did seem to wobble slightly as the weight tried to rebalance itself on exit and this could make it fishtail slightly if you weren't expecting it, easy enough to counter once you were used to it though.

Turn 3+4
-Fairly precise, a little bit of front end push as you entered the tunnel but not a problem whilst hot lapping

Turn 5+6
-Good on entry, brakes get the job done and the turn in felt precise and clean. Could get a little bit sloppy on exit if you asked too much of the car but otherwise struck a good balance of rotation and stability.

Turn 7+8+9
-No problems through here apart from the car feeling slightly floaty, the grip was adequate but wasn't confidence inspiring.

Turn 10
-The car had good rotation and felt precise but could be a bit of a handful on exit which I fear was costing it some time. If you got it right then it would do everything you asked of it but if you got it wrong then you were paying for it all the way down the following straight.


Tuner #2
1:12.183
DC - 6

Turn 1+2
-Not bad through turn 1 but the nose really begins to push wide on turn 2. The rear rotates around nicely but the front just washes out as soon as you get on the power

Turn 3+4
-The car feels more comfortable through this section, clean weight transfer between braking and the initial turn in. The front end push is less evident but still shows if you get a less than optimal entry.

Turn 5+6
-Felt a bit hard to work with in these slower corners, not really enough weight being transferred forwards during braking to generate the turn in grip. On exit you have to be super gentle with the input to prevent the rear breaking loose, it just feels like it needs far more precision than should be necessary.

Turn 7+8+9
-The car felt responsive through this faster section but was verging on being skittish. A little too much steering angle and it would start to skate, not uncontrollable but punished the sector times.

Turn 10
-Seemed to struggle here, not much grip on entry and then loved to push wide on exit. Couldn't really find a gear that felt right, again the car was forcing me to be extremely precise but not giving any reward.


Tuner #3
1:10.367
DC - 9

Turn 1+2
-Great grip and balance with a useful amount of brake release oversteer. Once used to hoe the car reacted to inputs it was very easy to hit the same marks again and again. It could get a little bit slippery if you clipped the curb on exit but this was easy enough to avoid.

Turn 3+4
-No real problems here, a little slow to react perhaps but never bad enough to cause any major problems

Turn 5+6
-Plenty of grip on entry to turn 5 but could get a little sloppy on exit as the weight rebalanced itself. Really nice grip through turn 6 gavethe car a great run through the next section.

Turn 7+8+9
-A bit unresponsive and a touch of understeer but nothing too bad, small adjustments to the racing line were all that was required to overcome this and get through the section as fast as possible.

Turn 10
-Plenty of grip and decent rotation, very easy to be consistent with. Didn't really have any problems with grip level changes so allowed for plenty of experimentation in order to determine the fastest way in and out.


Tuner #4
1:10.103
DC - 8.5

Turn 1+2
-Fast and precise but on a knife edge all the time, one wrong move and you either lost the front end and ended up in the wall or lost the rear andended up facing back the way you came. Needs to be pushed to be fast but is completely unforgiving while doing so.

Turn 3+4
-A little bit skatey and had a habit of letting the rear come around but not too bad. A general trait of this car is never really knowing what you were going to get in terms of response while pushing.

Turn 5+6
-The car felt kind of heavy and stiff through here but was quite capable once you got used to it. It could get a bit loose on the exit to turn 6 if you clipped the curb but no worse than any other car on test.

Turn 7+8+9
-A little bit nervous and floaty through this faster section, entirely manageable and quite precise but failed to inspire confidence.

Turn 10
-Good rotation but again nervous and slightly skittish. This car has a lot of potential but its just too all or nothing to be fun, I feel if it was just a little bit more forgiving it would miles easier to string a good lap together.


Tuner #5
1:11.441
DC - 9

Turn 1+2
-Good turn in and mid corner grip but the car could get a bit unhappy towards turn 2 as the weight tried to settle. Its got really good rotation but feels like it could do with stiffer ARBs or more damping to improve predictability

Turn 3+4
-No real issues here, the car behaved and gripped well on entry but could get a little bit feisty on exit into the tunnel particularly if you went anywhere near the raised section.

Turn 5+6
-This was the worst section of the track for me using this car. Entry grip was as good and predictable as ever but exit was always tricky. The transition between 5 and 6 was made particularly difficult by the gearing, the shift between 2nd and 3rd never failed to unsettle the car.

Turn 7+8+9
-No real problems through here save for a bit of excess body roll, being that the exit from turn 6 dictates how fast you go through this section it was hard to ever really push the car much.

Turn 10
- Felt really nice and predictable through this corner, plenty of grip and the gearing felt neutral and well suited. Could run a little bit wide on exit if you fell off the optimal line but not a major issue.


Tuner #6
1:10.448
DC - 8

Turn 1+2
-Very smooth rotation and feels like it has tons of grip, decent balance and responds predictably to inputs. It did seem to struggle on exit though, the acceleration was smooth but it didn't seem to be putting much power down.

Turn 3+4
-No real problems here, the car remained stable and predictable if a little detached from the driver.

Turn 5+6
-Brakes worked well here and got the car slowed efficiently. The grip felt constant and predictable as expected but the throttle response lacked urgency.

Turn 7+8+9
-A tiny bit of understeer developed through these faster sections, the car was easy enough to pilot but the lazy engine and gearing hurt the speed and cost it some time.

Turn 10
-Predictable grip and rotation, I found I could get on the power nice and early but the car didn't really gain any speed while turning and accelerating so the advantage was lost.


Tuner #7
1:10.649
DC - 6

Turn 1+2
-I can only describe the feeling of this car as wooly. There was a fair amount of entry grip but there was a noticeable delay between input and reaction. The entry grip made the car easy to drive into the corner but it quickly tuned to understeer and washed wide

Turn 3+4
-Again the vagueness of the handling and slowness to react made it difficult to be quick through here. The exit understeer was still present and prevented the car from holding onto much speed.

Turn 5+6
-Didn't feel too bad on entry and it was easy to get back on the power on exit but once again the prevalent understeer was stopping the car from carrying any real speed.

Turn 7+8+9
-The car did quite well through this section, it had ample grip and the gearing and engine part choices really helped the car gather a good head of steam through the faster sections.

Turn 10
-No real problems through here, the tune struggled slightly with rotation and late corner push but had plenty of grip to run the wider lines as a means of compensating.


Tuner #8
1:11.596
DC - 7.5

Turn 1+2
-In terms of grip this car was very much all or nothing. It had decent entry grip and rotation but it was difficult to maintain this grip throughout the mid and late stages of the corner. If you continually checked your speed then you could keep rotating but if you tried to push then the grip would quickly fade.

Turn 3+4
-Again good entry grip and rotation but had a real tendency to let go and push wide on exit. The responsiveness of the steering was good but it just couldn't sustain the load.

Turn 5+6
-Felt fairly good through the slower corners, good accurate response from the steering and the gearing helped keep the wheelspin under control. I did find that grip on the exit to turn 6 was always a little questionable, you never really knew what you were going to get.

Turn 7+8+9
-No real problems through here, a bit floaty perhaps but no real cause for alarm.

Turn 10
-Fairly easy to navigate the car round the final bend, same issue as with everywhere else in terms of constant grip but manageable if a little frustrating at times


Tuner #9
1:10.464
DC - 7

Turn 1+2
-The car felt quite darty at the front end and very quick to rotate on entry, this could have allowed it to be very fast through this section if the exit performance backed it up. Unfortunately the front couldn't sustain the grip and would begin to understeer quite badly. If you managed to keep the front pointing in the right direction then the rear would break loose and spin away the power.

Turn 3+4
-The front end of the car was fairly easy to get pointed in the right direction but the rear had its own ideas and as a result the speed was hampered by continually lighting up the rear tyres.

Turn 5+6
-The brakes seemed a little weak on entry but the rotation of the car was quite useful through turn 5. Through turn 6 the car really struggled to hold things together, the slightest hint of curb or excessive steering input an the car would leave most of the tyres in black lines behind it.

Turn 7+8+9
-No real problems here except for the occasional bit of over rotation if you took too much curb.

Turn 10
-Didn't really like the car on this corner, it seemed to struggle to hold onto speed for some reason. The brakes made for a slow entry and the tendency to over rotate prevented a good exit


Tuner #10
1:10.412
DC - 6

Turn 1+2
-The brakes seemd to steal grip from the front end on entry, the outside front always seem to light up and hamper rotation. The car felt very controlled but this meant I was fighting understeer all the time. You could be very consistent but the car just felt too reserved to be quick.

Turn 3+4
-Predictable and stable but slightly slow to react and lacking precision. On exit it liked to light up the rear tyres for no obvious reason, wasn't a massive issue but certainly cost the car some speed.

Turn 5+6
-Felt heavy and difficult to rotate. Was very stable on entry but loved to light up the rears at the top of 2nd gear, controllable but not ideal.

Turn 7+8+9
-A bit slow to react and some minor understeer problems but nothing major.

Turn 10
-Very consistent and predictable as expected but again I seem to be having to wait for the car to rotate of its own accord rather than having control over the route taken. Fairly fast and safe but I just didn't enjoy being a passenger all the time.


Tuner #11
1:12.204
DC - 7

Turn 1+2
-Entry wasn't too bad, a little slow to react perhaps but very stable. The problem manifested itself when braking for turn 2 where the heavy front brake bias would force the car to straighten up. This could be countered by dabbing the brakes but this meant braking earlier. The outside front was also unloading on the exit to turn 2, my guess to the cause would be the soft rear end compessing and lifting the front under acceleration.

Turn 3+4
-No real problems here, predictable grip on entry and decent rotation. A hint of understeer perhaps but nothing major

Turn 5+6
-Very stable through this section but the car developed a fair bit of understeer, its manageable but definitely costs the car some time.

Turn 7+8+9
-Again feeling slightly sluggish and a bit understeery, had to put a fair bit of thought into finding an efficient line without scrubbing speed with steering inputs or running wide.

Turn 10
-The car felt pretty nice in the last corner, had enough grip and stability to suit a few different lines. This allowed it to find a good run onto the final straight but despite being the most powerful car it wasn't really a substantial enough amount faster in a straight line to make the extra weight worth it.

 

[Otaliema]

@DolHaus Times have been entered.
There is a new leader! Looks like Tuner #4 found that little bit to pull through in the last turn and caught a good draft to over take exiting the tunnel!

GVE R Lap Time Podium
1 Tuner #4 1:11.030 +0.000
2 Tuner #10 1:11.038 +0.008
3 Tuner #7 1:11.102 +0.072
4 Tuner #9 1:11.205 +0.175
5 Tuner #6 1:11.230 +0.200

Drivers Choice Podium
1 Tuner #7 8.60
2 Tuner #4 8.47
3 Tuner #9 8.43
4 Tuner #6 8.35
5 Tuner #3 8.17

Fastest Lap at GVE R
1:10.103; Tuner #4's tune Driven By DolHaus