With the gauntlet being thrown by Hami, about tuners needing to bring their "A" game, it made me that more determined to enter the Focus challenge as a tuner. A chance to go door to door with a tuner/friend that I respect...you can't pass that up. I planned on having a few hours to tune earlier this morning, but the washing machine decided that it wanted to break down so I spent a few hours with more of its parts on the outside than inside. I did manage to find about 20 minutes of tuning before the wife got home. I was stuck around the 1:01.000 mark, decided to make a change from left field and this was the result...1.00.4xx
The adjustment made the car very edgy as if it was an FR and I found myself holding on the entire lap...my questions are, has anyone else encountered this in their tuning? And @Motor City Hami , can you put me on the tuners list for the Focus group? If I can tame this beast a little bit, I might be able to keep on your bumper!
Isn`t that how you`re supposed to tune an FF?My tuning sheet looks like someone ate a handful of numbers and threw up on my TV
Oh the front wheels were not happy and this is definitely not an endurance setup, and yes it was the rear TOE, you clever boy!👍 I've never really tuned an FF except for an Integra back in GT5. I just found it odd that one adjustment could drop the lap time so dramatically. Maybe a tenth or two when I'm that far into the tuning process, not close to a half second better than my fastest lap.
And @Otaliema ...wait till you see these settings!
I'm beginning to think that might just be how it worksIsn`t that how you`re supposed to tune an FF?
So there is stability? I'll have to search for this mystical creature in which you speak, because right now it is a wild ride. Have you ever kick started a motorcycle when it was in first gear? That's what this car feels like!There is a little trick I found to improve stability but keep the rotation when using -ve rear toe. Someone else here found it too.........
My Focus tuning is going really well. I`m throwing all the spanners at this one!
Never done that, but I have had to first gear start a bronco 2 when the clutch exploded on me in the middle of my delevey route way back when I was a parts runners at a shop. That's a trip turn the key and hold on! Had to learn to free wheel shift really fast too.So there is stability? I'll have to search for this mystical creature in which you speak, because right now it is a wild ride. Have you ever kick started a motorcycle when it was in first gear? That's what this car feels like!
1:00.5.......guess I will be at the back of the pack........Mustang not giving me confidence either. Is 1:17.3-5 decent?I am in the same area with the 2013 Focus. Using super high rear toe does help entry, but what I am struggling with is the bounce I am getting after curb hopping is slowing corner exit. I tried a super high rear spring and damper combination but it bounces like crazy after the curbs. I am at 100.5 right now. Nothing that I do is gaining any more time, so the tune may be maxed out.
Tweaked a few things on the Tangerine's suspension (Rear Spring, Rear EXT, Rear Camber, Rear ARB). Managed a 1:00.195 laptime and for once I took that nightmare last corner perfectly, but I lost time in the first 3 corners. Under a minute doesn't seem so foreign anymore .
@Motor City Hami Have you tried raising the ride height ? I don't really know how everything works together yet but it seemed like higher ride height ran better on the track.
1:00.5.......guess I will be at the back of the pack........Mustang not giving me confidence either. Is 1:17.3-5 decent?
I'm at a 1:16.5 so you aren't to far behind. It's most likely down to driving too. So I expect the testers to be pretty even. A good turn vs. A perfect turn can mean 1/2 a second on willow.
Sounds like a wild ride you`ve got there! Lucky old testers!So there is stability? I'll have to search for this mystical creature in which you speak, because right now it is a wild ride. Have you ever kick started a motorcycle when it was in first gear? That's what this car feels like!
Tweaked a few things on the Tangerine's suspension (Rear Spring, Rear EXT, Rear Camber, Rear ARB). Managed a 1:00.195 laptime and for once I took that nightmare last corner perfectly, but I lost time in the first 3 corners. Under a minute doesn't seem so foreign anymore .
I went for the same way of thinking. If I can drive it consistently at a time which is (sort of) fast, it may be better than me creating an alien car which only I can get the fast times in. I doubt my Focus will be the fastest in the bunch but hopefully the drive will be nice and smooth for the testers.Sounds like a wild ride you`ve got there! Lucky old testers!
A 59sec is possible. My ghost was at 1:00.3xx and was a good .5 in front until I got all excited at the last corner!!
I`m just looking for the little tweeks now, just to make it nice and easy for the testers to get consistent fast times. After all, it makes no difference how fast I can lap in it! I`m thinking of you testers!
All the tunes of yours that I`ve driven have been easy to drive and pretty quick too.👍 I must have about a thousand miles on that WRX by now! Most of them sideways smoking all 4 tyres!I went for the same way of thinking. If I can drive it consistently at a time which is (sort of) fast, it may be better than me creating an alien car which only I can get the fast times in. I doubt my Focus will be the fastest in the bunch but hopefully the drive will be nice and smooth for the testers.
You can't beat a smoking WRX for fun and enjoyment. Thats what Subarus are made for I believeAll the tunes of yours that I`ve driven have been easy to drive and pretty quick too.👍 I must have about a thousand miles on that WRX by now! Most of them sideways smoking all 4 tyres!
I've got mine at 1:00.5-7 all day every day, with a few .4's in there. But like you said, doesn't matter the tuners time in their own car...it's all about being sweet to the testers. I should put a sticker on it warning trail brakers though@Lionheart2113 Orange! Just for a change? Looking good!! I`ve run out of spanners to throw at mine! I can run 3/5 laps under 1:01 and the other 2 are usually under 1:01.2. Its time to let it go. Will post it this evening.
Any advice for us auto users? Looks great, can't wait to break down some walls with it!Here is my random collection of numbers I`m optimistically calling a "tune"
Ford Focus ST `06 450pp
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Yeah! Use manual!Any advice for us auto users? Looks great, can't wait to break down some walls with it!
@Lionheart2113 Orange! Just for a change? Looking good!! I`ve run out of spanners to throw at mine! I can run 3/5 laps under 1:01 and the other 2 are usually under 1:01.2. Its time to let it go. Will post it this evening.
If there is "brownie points" on offer I`ll take `em all!! I did offer the colour to him but got no reply so I`m keeping it! I`m hoping its worth half a second!👍I made the suggestion that he stick with orange (The Great Pumpkin for a nickname sounds better than Mary) because it has been working for him lately. If it ain't broke.......
I see you are going with bright green with carbon hood? Trying to get "brownie points" from @Motor City Hami perhaps? ............
Don't know, it does look pretty wicked in green/black....even with the battle scars!I see you are going with bright green with carbon hood? Trying to get "brownie points" from @Motor City Hami perhaps? ............
It does look badass doesn`t it.Don't know, it does look pretty wicked in green/black....even with the battle scars!