Good stuff @Lionheart2113 , seems I have some improving to do!!
My disclaimer... Yes most of you know this by now, but this is mainly for the newcomers both involved in the competition and those lurking in the shadows.
**I’m not a negative person, so if there is any criticism of a tune; it’s not meant to be an insult, and if my time is slower than what you have, then that’s fair enough. These are non bias opinions based on how I drive and should be taken with a grain of salt! I respect and appreciate the time the tuners have put into their tunes and I will try everything I can to get the most out of the tune itself.**
FITT Ford Focus ST Challenge by MCH
Ford Focus ST '06
Ford Focus ST '13
Track(s):
London Reverse
Each tuner was drawn at random, but put in the order as listed to help Hami with the spreadsheet. I ran each car for 2 sets of 6 laps making sure that the tires were nicely warmed up. With this particular challenge it didn't take too long as I was roasting the Goody off of them by lap 6. In order to cover all of the lap times, I would need a 0.761 blanket!
Driving Options
Driving Line: OFF
Blind Spot Indicator: OFF
Active Steering: OFF
Traction Control: 0
Active Stability Management (ASM): OFF
Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS): 1
Skid Recovery Force (SRF): OFF
Controller Sensitivity: 5
DS3 (dpads)
"X" throttle
Square brake
Automatic Transmission
Ford Focus ST '06
@787bcgr
Time: 1:00.706
DC Score: 9.7
Review: The most comfortable car in the competition, hands down. Even if you aren't testing, this car is worth the drive. Just some minor understeer mid corner. Near perfect, very impressive!
@Badger66
Time: 1:01.230
DC Score: 8.5
Review: Stable and easy to drive. Hint of understeer right at corner exit. The mid turbo does seem to help through the esses and towards the end of the straights. Good job!
@Bowtie-muscle
Time: 1:00.927
DC Score: 9.0
Review: Nothing wrong with the tune itself, just seems to want to spin the tires more on takeoff. Get that power to the ground and this tune would be Tune of The Week material. Was always fastest through the first turn.
@brian wolf
Time: 1:01.204
DC Score: 8.5
Review: Like all cars with severe TOE settings, it gets squirrely under heavy braking. Back up your braking points and sling this car into the turn. A slight push through the center and it doesn't like clipping the curb through the esses on the backstretch. Nothing major, good tune!
@krenkme
Time: 1:01.377
DC Score: 8.0
Review: Less understeer and this car could be something special. Had to wait just a little longer through the turn before hitting the gas which hurt the lap times. But after a few laps I was able to throw the car around more, but that snug/center condition would always appear.
Lionheart2113
Time: 1:00.663
DC Score: 9.5
Review: There is a lot more tire squealing throughout the lap than most other tunes, not sure if that's good or bad...I'm thinking the second one. It's still fast for me, but there is some minor understeer from center-off that can throw you off line. Yes, I ran the tune as posted (no front spoiler) but only gave myself 1 set of 6 laps.
@NEWDRIVER2
Time: 1:01.107
DC Score: 8.5
Review: The nose seemed to slide around more than others causing a push on corner entry. Change your line slightly and it becomes better. Time could be faster, but that push condition forces you to let off the throttle on the backstretch losing some speed.
@Otaliema
Time: 1.00.965
DC Score: 9.0
Review: Good solid tune. Great acceleration, just a little snug around the track. Easily managed.
@xande1959
Time: 1:01.216
DC Score: 8.5
Review: Solid tune, for the most part it did what you wanted it to. Had a strange wiggle under braking. The rear end wanted to lock up and slide out, but something in the front was making it snap back in line. Get used to that and it was easy to drive.
Average: I matched the PP/HP/Weight/Weight split as closely as the tune dictates. Check out the lap time...right up there with the fastest!?
Time: 1:00.689
Ford Focus ST '13
@CyKosis1973
Time: 1:01.389
DC Score: 8.0
Review: Very comfortable and solid tune. Stability is there, especially under braking. There is a tight condition that hurts it on the backstretch. Not sure why you say good luck, I found this car very easy to drive!
@DolHaus
Time: 1:00.824
DC Score: 9.4
Review: Not much to say, really. Tires didn't light up as bad as some others and it was very predictable I had 3 laps in a row within 0.005 of each other...nice job!
@Motor City Hami
Time: 1:00.732
DC Score: 9.6
Review: An absolute blast to drive. Be prepared to either be smiling or grinding your teeth with this one. Does not feel like you are driving an FF until you hit the gas and light up the fronts. 3 words...Fun, Fun, Fun!
@randyrockstiff
Time: 1:01.358
DC Score: 7.5
Review: Only major issue I had was that it seemed to lose its center rotation causing a tight condition. More noticeable when the weight shifted from one side to the other. Maybe a setting is adjusted too stiff?
@shaunm80
Time: 1:01.204
DC Score: 8.0
Review: Not too bad, just some understeer and lots of tire smoke. The inside wheel likes to stay red, I think I know what you were trying to do with the LSD, maybe just a couple of clicks too far!?
@sinof1337
Time: 1:01.424
DC Score: 7.5
Review: The braking was pretty good and helped with getting down into the corners, except for when bumps were involved. Seemed to bounce more than expected. Understeer on accel. But I was able to take that last turn with confidence every time with the braking and turn in.
@ugabugaz
Time: 1:01.008
DC Score: 9.0
Review: If you back up your braking points this car would slide and turn in beautifully, if you hit your marks. If not the understeer kicks in and has you into the wall. Fun to drive.
Average: Once again, just tried to match the main numbers as much as possible. Open to interpretation as to what parts can be installed. With the parts I installed, the power limiter reaches 97.6%. There is still room to either increase the power limiter or shed some pounds, but I wanted to try and get it close to all the numbers.
Time: 1:00.974
Testing these tunes was a blast and I couldn't believe how close the times were. Once I got going Thank you to the tuners and a special thanks to Hami for setting this up!
I didn't think we would see any gt's, this just got interestingI will also add pictures tomorrow, I just need to quit driving this car now, or is it driving me?
Ford Mustang V8 GT Coupe Premium '07
550 pp
592 hp @ 5,400 rpm
586.3 ft-lb @ 5,300 rpm
1305 kg
Power to Weight 2.20
Weight Distribution 63/37
GT Auto
No Oil Change
No Body Rigidity
Wheels: Stock: Enkei JS-M
Paint Body: Garnet Red (from the 69 Camaro's for Bowtie)
Paint Wheels: Stock
Parts
Fully Customizable Suspension
Racing Brakes
Fully Customizable Transmission
Fully Customizable LSD
Twin-Plate Clutch Kit
Carbon Drive Shaft
Engine Tuning Stage 2
Sports Computer
Racing Exhaust
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Sports Catalytic
Supercharger
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Hood
Window Weight Reduction
Sports Soft
Suspension
Ride Height 90/90
Spring Rate 11.00/7.00
Dampeners Comp 4/6
Dampeners Ext 8/4
Anti-Roll Bars 3/4
Camber Angle 2.0/1.0
Toe Angle 0.10/0.15
Brake Balance 6/4
Transmission
Initial Final 5.000
Max Speed 174
First Gear 2.400
Second Gear 1.700
Third Gear 1.200
Fourth Gear 0.940
Fifth Gear 0.790
Sixth Gear 0.675
Final Fear 4.125
LSD 8/18/10
Power Limiter 97%
Ballast Weight 0
Ballast Position 0
Ready to claim last place trophy whenever.
Thus why I added my last statement.I didn't think we would see any gt's, this just got interesting
On paper it has great stats, lighter and more powerful than the BOSS anywayThus why I added my last statement.
Just to be sure, both front and rear toe are +??I will also add pictures tomorrow, I just need to quit driving this car now, or is it driving me?
Ford Mustang V8 GT Coupe Premium '07
550 pp
592 hp @ 5,400 rpm
586.3 ft-lb @ 5,300 rpm
1305 kg
Power to Weight 2.20
Weight Distribution 63/37
GT Auto
No Oil Change
No Body Rigidity
Wheels: Stock: Enkei JS-M
Paint Body: Garnet Red (from the 69 Camaro's for Bowtie)
Paint Wheels: Stock
Parts
Fully Customizable Suspension
Racing Brakes
Fully Customizable Transmission
Fully Customizable LSD
Twin-Plate Clutch Kit
Carbon Drive Shaft
Engine Tuning Stage 2
Sports Computer
Racing Exhaust
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Sports Catalytic
Supercharger
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Hood
Window Weight Reduction
Sports Soft
Suspension
Ride Height 90/90
Spring Rate 11.00/7.00
Dampeners Comp 4/6
Dampeners Ext 8/4
Anti-Roll Bars 3/4
Camber Angle 2.0/1.0
Toe Angle 0.10/0.15
Brake Balance 6/4
Transmission
Initial Final 5.000
Max Speed 174
First Gear 2.400
Second Gear 1.700
Third Gear 1.200
Fourth Gear 0.940
Fifth Gear 0.790
Sixth Gear 0.675
Final Fear 4.125
LSD 8/18/10
Power Limiter 97%
Ballast Weight 0
Ballast Position 0
Ready to claim last place trophy whenever.
NIce Color choice, now you can sit in the time-out corner with me waiting to get banned for using GM paint
Well, you do put Mazda paint on almost anything, usually looks real good too.
Yes, I am 100% positive all of the current settings are what I finished my testing the car with. (Just incase anyone else questions the sanity of this crazy tune.) Good luck all you testers with this one.Just to be sure, both front and rear toe are +??
NIce Color choice, now you can sit in the time-out corner with me waiting to get banned for using GM paint
That's the best looking 'Capri' I've ever seen 👍'13 Capri RS
Based on the Ford Mustang Boss 302 '13
5500pp
568hp
1,374kg
52/48 weight distribution
GT Auto
Sports Hard Tires
Front Aero Type A
Rear Wing Custom Wing - Type A
1 inch up RAYS VR.G2 painted Black
Paint car..."Any color you'd like, as long as it's in black" ...Black Mica
Height-Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brakes painted Passionate pink
Fully Customizable Transmission
Fully Customizable LSD
Triple-Plate Clutch Kit
Carbon Drive Shaft
Stage 1 Engine
Sports Computer
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Intake Tuning
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Hood
Window Weight Reduction
ABS=1
Everything Else Off
TUNE
Ride Height- F= 85 R=85
Spring Rate- F= 8.30 R= 10.30
Compression- F= 2 R= 2
Extension- F= 5 R= 5
Anti-roll Bars- F= 2 R= 2
Camber- F= 0.8 R= 1.0
Toe Angle- F= (-)0.15 R= 0.10
Brakes- F= 7 R= 5
Buy All Power upgrades before tuning the Transmission
*Please tune Trans in this order
Reset to default
Final- 5.500
Max Speed- 124mph
1st- 3.000
2nd- 2.150
3rd- 1.700
4th- 1.350
5th- 1.130
6th- 0.970
Final- 4.150
(Adjust for speed using final gear only)
LSD 10/10/10
Downforce- R=20
Ballast- 55 @ 50
Tuner Notes
I used Athletic Tape to put my stripes back on the car.... don't worry the car's too slow for them to fall off
The time looks good but I think it's too powerful. At 5500pp it would either dominate or just shred tires. Good luck.'13 Capri RS
Based on the Ford Mustang Boss 302 '13
5500pp
568hp
1,374kg
52/48 weight distribution
GT Auto
Sports Hard Tires
Front Aero Type A
Rear Wing Custom Wing - Type A
1 inch up RAYS VR.G2 painted Black
Paint car..."Any color you'd like, as long as it's in black" ...Black Mica
Height-Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brakes painted Passionate pink
Fully Customizable Transmission
Fully Customizable LSD
Triple-Plate Clutch Kit
Carbon Drive Shaft
Stage 1 Engine
Sports Computer
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Intake Tuning
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Hood
Window Weight Reduction
ABS=1
Everything Else Off
TUNE
Ride Height- F= 85 R=85
Spring Rate- F= 8.30 R= 10.30
Compression- F= 2 R= 2
Extension- F= 5 R= 5
Anti-roll Bars- F= 2 R= 2
Camber- F= 0.8 R= 1.0
Toe Angle- F= (-)0.15 R= 0.10
Brakes- F= 7 R= 5
Buy All Power upgrades before tuning the Transmission
*Please tune Trans in this order
Reset to default
Final- 5.500
Max Speed- 124mph
1st- 3.000
2nd- 2.150
3rd- 1.700
4th- 1.350
5th- 1.130
6th- 0.970
Final- 4.150
(Adjust for speed using final gear only)
LSD 10/10/10
Downforce- R=20
Ballast- 55 @ 50
Tuner Notes
I used Athletic Tape to put my stripes back on the car.... don't worry the car's too slow for them to fall off
Is he hybriding now or has he installed an insane flat floor that he's not telling us about?The time looks good but I think it's too powerful. At 5500pp it would either dominate or just shred tires. Good luck.
What kind of times were you getting? And kudos for choosing the '07, like @ImToLegitToQuit said, I didn't think we'd see it either.👍Yes, I am 100% positive all of the current settings are what I finished my testing the car with. (Just incase anyone else questions the sanity of this crazy tune.) Good luck all you testers with this one.
(Subject to change, posting now just in case I don't get enough time to work on the car before deadline)
You listed Sport Hard tires!!!.....Typo???'13 Capri RS
Based on the Ford Mustang Boss 302 '13
5500pp
568hp
1,374kg
52/48 weight distribution
GT Auto
Sports Hard Tires
Front Aero Type A
Rear Wing Custom Wing - Type A
1 inch up RAYS VR.G2 painted Black
Paint car..."Any color you'd like, as long as it's in black" ...Black Mica
Height-Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brakes painted Passionate pink
Fully Customizable Transmission
Fully Customizable LSD
Triple-Plate Clutch Kit
Carbon Drive Shaft
Stage 1 Engine
Sports Computer
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Intake Tuning
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Hood
Window Weight Reduction
ABS=1
Everything Else Off
TUNE
Ride Height- F= 85 R=85
Spring Rate- F= 8.30 R= 10.30
Compression- F= 2 R= 2
Extension- F= 5 R= 5
Anti-roll Bars- F= 2 R= 2
Camber- F= 0.8 R= 1.0
Toe Angle- F= (-)0.15 R= 0.10
Brakes- F= 7 R= 5
Buy All Power upgrades before tuning the Transmission
*Please tune Trans in this order
Reset to default
Final- 5.500
Max Speed- 124mph
1st- 3.000
2nd- 2.150
3rd- 1.700
4th- 1.350
5th- 1.130
6th- 0.970
Final- 4.150
(Adjust for speed using final gear only)
LSD 10/10/10
Downforce- R=20
Ballast- 55 @ 50
Tuner Notes
I used Athletic Tape to put my stripes back on the car.... don't worry the car's too slow for them to fall off
Due to my slower skill level I tested Bowtie's car for reference and I was about 2 seconds behind with my tune. 1:21-mine and capable of about 1:19 with @Bowtie-muscle's. Also, when I add pictures I will add this note in, early braking and some throttle control can go a long way, or at least it did for me.What kind of times were you getting? And kudos for choosing the '07, like @ImToLegitToQuit said, I didn't think we'd see it either.👍
Sorry, double post
Did I do something wrong in my typing? I am not on the PS3 at the moment so I can't check figures at the moment. If 1hp is all that is different, it shouldn't make a huge amount of change to the tune.. I hope..You listed Sport Hard tires!!!.....Typo???
For those building xande's Boss, set trans top speed to 162mph or is listed kph to get the gears to match.
@shaunm80 has his HP 1 higher than what is achievable....
Tunes are looking VERY VERY interesting on paper and screen, have to build @DolHaus and krenkme still, but looks like this could get wild or close.
If your Stang tune is as good as your focus tune, you have a good chance of beating me in DC on this event too I didnt test your FITT entry yet (for my own fun, not as a FITT tester..) but I estimate that our times will be very close and probably the DC as well.Only 1 HP, will not make a difference, you have posted 546hp, I only could get 545hp.
Maybe that will get me ahead of you in DC?
Sounds like a good idea, adding a little note to the post saying whether it is ready to go or subject to change could help to prevent issues in testing. I know some people like to get an early start on testing so they can fit it into their schedules and this small courtesy might help them know which cars are 100% ready. 👍To all tuners... I love this at the bottom of DolHaus' tune post. This is a very good way to show the test drivers that you have posted your tune, but may want to adjust it a little before the deadline. Maybe this should become a FITT guideline that when finished with your tune, you must add a line to your tune letting test drivers know that they can start driving?
@Motor City Hami , I know you have built the BOSS before, will you being throwing your GREEN MACHINE into the fray?
I noticed the same thing, this is a great opportunity for me to practice L2/R2 gas & brake.early braking and some throttle control can go a long way, or at least it did for me.