FITT M Power Challenge - Mystery Solved - Congratulations to the Winners

[jblackrevo9]

2:07.749 so far. Is that good

I have a quick question, has camber changed at all since that Focus competition Motor City Hami held? I remember it being detrimental to grip back then.

Yes but you gotta make sure suspension I good or it won't work well

 

[Otaliema]

I have a quick question, has camber changed at all since that Focus competition Motor City Hami held? I remember it being detrimental to grip back then.

it depends entirely on the car and what your looking for. Camber seems to act differently then how I understand it should work.
Front camber induces understeer but improves corner entry response and consistency.
Rear camber induces oversteer and increases settle time for the car after a turn.
In both cases it reduces grip of the tire during acceleration if the wheels in question are drive wheels.

 

[ugabugaz]

2:07.749 for XXXXX so far. Is that good


Yes but you gotta make sure suspension I good or it won't work well

I'm around there with the vehicle picked out for me.

 

[DolHaus]

I have a quick question, has camber changed at all since that Focus competition Motor City Hami held? I remember it being detrimental to grip back then.

Results have been patchy at best, small gains can be found at <1.0 degrees but no consistent/definable reactions to it being applied in my experience. I feel it is increasing turn in grip/response at the cost of peak mid turn grip, compensating with toe in seems to work but as I said before it isn't consistent (works on some cars but not others) but definitely worth a try when trying to squeeze every advantage. 👍

 

[jblackrevo9]

I'm around there with the vehicle picked out for me.

Guess I gotta push for a 2:06 time!

 

[shaunm80]

Guess I gotta push for a 2:06 time!

Keep pushing.. and it might be a good idea to edit your earlier post so you don't have your car identified in there. I fear it is too late though because someone else already quoted it. If the person who quoted it could edit theirs too, that would be awesome.

 

[jblackrevo9]

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it depends entirely on the car and what your looking for. Camber seems to act differently then how I understand it should work.
Front camber induces understeer but improves corner entry response and consistency.
Rear camber induces oversteer and increases settle time for the car after a turn.
In both cases it reduces grip of the tire during acceleration if the wheels in question are drive wheels.

ey also behave differently depending on the shocks that each car has and how well those shocks control oscillation.

 

[jblackrevo9]

Keep pushing.. and it might be a good idea to edit your earlier post so you don't have your car identified in there. I fear it is too late though because someone else already quoted it. If the person who quoted it could edit theirs too, that would be awesome.

Oh snap...I gotta look for it!

 

[shaunm80]

Oh snap...I gotta look for it!

Many thanks.. @ugabugaz - Can you do me a favour and edit your post where you quoted JBlack.. Just remove his car choice so its like nothing ever happened. Perfect.

 

[MrGrado]

Not supposed to be mentioning or hinting the car you are tuning. The time seems reasonable though. I have done a 2:27.00x with my tune so far after about 250km of testing and tuning and I usually am a little ahead of most people when comparing lap due to driver skill levels.

 

[shaunm80]

@ugabugaz - You need to XXX out one more word. Thank you for getting on this as quickly as you did. It is much appreciated.

 

[ugabugaz]

Woops, Got it now.

 

[Otaliema]

O_o 20 second difference between @jblackrevo9 and @MrGrado ?????? Mr Black do you have track, aids and tires right? or did someone typo the time?

 

[MrGrado]

O_o 20 second difference between @jblackrevo9 and @MrGrado ?????? Mr Black do you have track, aid and tires right? or did someone typo the time?

2:07.003 My time was, sorry.

 

[Otaliema]

2:07.003 My time was, sorry.

No worries It caught my eye cause you're one of the fastest drivers that regularly participates in FITT events.

 

[787bcgr]

Since weight reduction isn't listed, it's not allowed, right?

 

[shaunm80]

Since weight reduction isn't listed, it's not allowed, right?

Weight reduction is definitely allowed. You have free reign on power parts/weight reduction for your tune.

The only things that aren't allowed are noted in the rules and regs. Anything else goes if it is not banned.

 

[787bcgr]

Weight reduction is definitely allowed. You have free reign on power parts/weight reduction for your tune.

The only things that aren't allowed are noted in the rules and regs. Anything else goes if it is not banned.

Ok, thank you.

 

[shaunm80]

Ok, thank you.

I have added weight reduction allowed to the allowed list just incase anyone else was thinking the same thing.

 

[MrGrado]

FC suspension is allowed I suppose also.

 

[shaunm80]

FC suspension is allowed I suppose also.

No.. That has to be standard. I thought I would liven things up having a lot of over steering FR cars

Yes, FC suspension is allowed, that goes without saying

 

[xande1959]

on my time off this weekend I get no internet. and that Brazil is paid by Hare and receives cat.

 

[Otaliema]

on my time off this weekend I get no internet. and that Brazil is paid by Hare and receives cat.

sorry to hear that. I hope it comes back up before you have to head back to work

 

[jblackrevo9]

O_o 20 second difference between @jblackrevo9 and @MrGrado ?????? Mr Black do you have track, aids and tires right? or did someone typo the time?[/QUOTE


I have them all off and abs is set to 1.

Sports medium tires ...

 

[ugabugaz]

Is it mandatory to have ABS = 1, or may we use different values as well? I don't mean 0.

 

[shaunm80]

Is it mandatory to have ABS = 1, or may we use different values as well? I don't mean 0.

ABS 1 is the most you can use. It makes it easier for testers as they don't have to check individual driver aid settings for each tuner.

 

[Otaliema]

@jblackrevo9 no worries @MrGrado answered he typoed his time. it caught my atten cause MrGrado is one of the fastest drivers we have in FITT.

 

[ugabugaz]

Got down to 2:07.1XX with what looks like a solid tune. Only thing left for me to tinker with is toe and camber. Plenty of time left though.

 

[shaunm80]

Got down to 2:07.1XX with what looks like a solid tune. Only thing left for me to tinker with is toe and camber. Plenty of time left though.

Someone has been busy..

 

[DaBomm4]

I am not skilled enough to be near those times guys! But I am at the fastest time so far with my chosen car, I just need to run away from the car for a while and hope I forget how to drive. Great fun cars on and offline.