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You are missing your own lap time/dc/review.. Something your not telling us?
I dont think it would be fair, because, well its my own tune so.. yeah you are right i will give it a go and edit it.
You are missing your own lap time/dc/review.. Something your not telling us?
You and everyone feels the same about reviewing their own tune. Review it honestly and score it as you feel it deserves.I dont think it would be fair, because, well its my own tune so.. yeah you are right i will give it a go and edit it.
Well here it is, my first ever oficial testing, dont expect to be very detailed and it will be all over the place so i might be talking about suspensions and go to talk about something else and then come back to suspensions.
Hope this helps...
RUF Sports Class Testing
@lBt_33
Best Lap Time - 1:34.230
DC - 9.0
Tune Comments - The car feels loose but controlable, which is hard to achieve and the rear end likes to kick in if you push her to hard. the transmmisson feels good, but it haves alot of wheelspin on exit corner, but keep your foot/thumb steady and it will do fine.
@xande1959
Best Lap Time - 1:34.050
DC - 8.5
Tune Comments -
the car feels very planted, it have a good turn in ability and the rear end kicks if you push it to much, which is easily controlable by steering output, my only concern is the brakes they dont feel quite good, its loose under braking and understeers on slow corners
@coryclifford
Best Lap Time - 1:33.768
DC - 9.5
Tune Comments -
The LSD is almost perfect, good traction coming out of corners with minimal wheel spin, you really have to push it to let the rear slide. The front end feels quite heavy, especially on slower corners, the transmission is good, just a few problems with 4th and 5th on certain areas.
@randyrockstiff
Best Lap Time - 1:34.977
DC - 7.5
Tune Comments - The car feels like its an FR-ish, push it to hard and it understeers and then oversteer, the LSD feels weird to me, maybe its my driving style... maybe, the transmisson is ok, and the car is easily unbalanced by the side markers.
@Brewguy44
Best Lap Time - 1:33.245
DC - 9.7
Tune Comments - This is why i asked you your best lap time, i had to double check if the grip was set to real and it was and double check the tires... I think you did some midnight work on the track and lay down trails on the track because this Porsche can turn, just point and go, i wish it was a little bit more loose, one thing that i found out that i didn't like was braking, trailbrakes a little bit and i have to ease up and go wide, and on slow corners the wheels spins to much and i wish the 2nd gear was a little shorter... other than that very well!!
@Otaliema
Best Lap Time - 1:33.973
DC - 9.0
Tune Comments - The car have good balance, the transmission is perfect and i wouldn't expect less from the transmisson master. The car gives me great confidence, making me going to the edge but once over that edge its tail goes wide, other than that very good!
@Ale67
Best Lap Time - 1:33.560
DC -8.0
Tune Comments - This car rear end.. oh boy it sure like to go, keep it within the limits and the combination between transmission and LSD is perfect, but if i could keep that rear in place with only a little bit of oversteer i think i would reach the 1:32...
Thank you sir. For your first testing great review good information:tup:Otaliema
Best Lap Time - 1:33.973
DC - 9.0
Tune Comments - The car have good balance, the transmission is perfect and i wouldn't expect less from the transmisson master. The car gives me great confidence, making me going to the edge but once over that edge its tail goes wide, other than that very good
Thank you sir. For your first testing great review good information:tup:
Fantasic lap times as well.
Looks like I went hair too stable this round
As for reviewing your own tune, I know how you feel but we have never found a way to allow a tuner/tester to skip testing their own that didn't mess with the numbers in a negative way.
All I can say is Thank You @joaosoarescso for the great review 👍
The tune just came together real easy, maybe a few tweaks here and there and it would be even better.
I wondered why you wanted to know my lap time and now I get it, nice lap times BTW 👍
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Great reviews. Awesome times too! I see you and I both have similar tastes in tune styles somewhat. Thanks for the great work and I will see you in old school class.FITT RUF Challenge
Sports Class
Testing Date: (Jan. 23 - Feb. 6)
Car(s):
3400S (1:33.2xx post transmission & LSD adjustments)
Regulations: (525pp/SM/95%^)
Track: Cape Ring North (2.39) 24° @ 14:30
Driving Options
Driving Line: OFF
Blind Spot Indicator: OFF
Active Steering: OFF
Traction Control: 0
Active Stability Management (ASM): OFF
Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS): 1
Skid Recovery Force (SRF): OFF
Controller Sensitivity: 5
Grip set to Real
DS3 (dpads)
"X" throttle
Square brake
Automatic Transmission
Since we do have a few new tuners/testers...
**I’m not a negative person, so if there is any criticism of a tune; it’s not meant to be an insult or a personal attack against that tuner, and if my time is slower than what you have, then that’s fair enough. These are non bias opinions based on how I drive and should be taken with a grain of salt! I respect and appreciate the time the tuners have put into their tunes and I will try everything I can to get the most out of the tune itself.**
-All tunes were ran for 2 sets of 6 consecutive laps. The fastest non-red lap time was recorded.
-With this particular track, a fast time doesn't necessarily mean a high DC score or vice versa.
@lBt_33
Lap Time - 1:33.591
DC Score - 8.5
Review:
The front was very responsive on initial turn in, but that came with a price. I struggled finding rear grip on low speed throttle, high speed exits, and braking. This edgy loose condition gave me lack of confidence in what to expect from the car led to very inconsistent lap times on this particular tight track.
@xande1959
Lap Time - 1:33.696
DC Score - 9.0
Review:
I liked this car. The transmission was unique and the rear could get away from you if provoked, but it worked to my driving style. So many sections of the track I could give it full throttle and full dpad knowing it would stick. The only thing I would ask for is more forgiveness on the rumble strips. Like Otaliemas, it would keep up with the leaders until the last section as the bumps upset the car just enough. This car is deserving of the "xande blue" paint job!👍
@coryclifford
Lap Time - 1:32.849
DC Score - 9.3
Review:
A fun car to drive! A little on the snug side for a few parts of the track, but manageable. Consistent car to drive lap after lap. Another great tune Cory, good job!
@randyrockstiff
Lap Time - 1:34.520
DC Score - 8.0
Review:
Large amounts of understeer due to the inside rear losing grip leads to sliding oversteer on exit. Coming into the last turn; 3 out of 4 tires were losing grip, but in a strange order. Slower lap times are due to this, weight, and the ability to cut some curbs. The car didn't appreciate being fed rumble strips, but I will say that it had the best landing on the hill. Always landed on all 4's with no bounce even on full throttle.
@Brewguy44
Lap Time - 1:32.836
DC Score - 9.5
Review:
Amazing tune! Only thing was getting kicked down to 1st gear a few times, but as long as you pointed it straight, you could easily get out of the corner with little wheel spin. I see this tune getting a lot of love as it is so easy to drive....Great job!
@Otaliema
Lap Time - 1:33.716
DC Score - 8.8
Review:
The transmission was quick and responsive. The tune was good when on the "proper" drive line, but if you wondered off, it was difficult to recover. The understeer used to tame this savage chihuahua did hurt through the last section...I was always close to the fastest ghost until the last set of turns.
@joaosoarescso
Lap Time - 1:33.384
DC Score - 8.7
Review:
The front end slid on corner entry causing me to diamond the corners and the suspension loved to get unloaded on the crests. It's not a bad tune, it just felt as if I was skating around on top of the track instead of stuck to it. Good effort and welcome.
@Ale67
Lap Time - 1:32.635
DC Score - 8.6
Review:
Holy 🤬 what a beast! The rear end loves to slide, especially if you get a single rear wheel on the rumble strip. And for some reason, even with the strong brakes, it still didn't want to slow down for corners. Most of which is solved by earlier braking points. This is what I call a "raw" tune. It's brilliant for Time Trials because there is the chance of putting out a quick lap, but it is one that I would fear in race conditions.
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FITT RUF Challenge
Sports Class
Testing Date: (Jan. 23 - Feb. 6)
Car(s):
3400S (1:33.2xx post transmission & LSD adjustments)
Regulations: (525pp/SM/95%^)
Track: Cape Ring North (2.39) 24° @ 14:30
Driving Options
Driving Line: OFF
Blind Spot Indicator: OFF
Active Steering: OFF
Traction Control: 0
Active Stability Management (ASM): OFF
Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS): 1
Skid Recovery Force (SRF): OFF
Controller Sensitivity: 5
Grip set to Real
DS3 (dpads)
"X" throttle
Square brake
Automatic Transmission
Since we do have a few new tuners/testers...
**I’m not a negative person, so if there is any criticism of a tune; it’s not meant to be an insult or a personal attack against that tuner, and if my time is slower than what you have, then that’s fair enough. These are non bias opinions based on how I drive and should be taken with a grain of salt! I respect and appreciate the time the tuners have put into their tunes and I will try everything I can to get the most out of the tune itself.**
-All tunes were ran for 2 sets of 6 consecutive laps. The fastest non-red lap time was recorded.
-With this particular track, a fast time doesn't necessarily mean a high DC score or vice versa.
@lBt_33
Lap Time - 1:33.591
DC Score - 8.5
Review:
The front was very responsive on initial turn in, but that came with a price. I struggled finding rear grip on low speed throttle, high speed exits, and braking. This edgy loose condition gave me lack of confidence in what to expect from the car led to very inconsistent lap times on this particular tight track.
@xande1959
Lap Time - 1:33.696
DC Score - 9.0
Review:
I liked this car. The transmission was unique and the rear could get away from you if provoked, but it worked to my driving style. So many sections of the track I could give it full throttle and full dpad knowing it would stick. The only thing I would ask for is more forgiveness on the rumble strips. Like Otaliemas, it would keep up with the leaders until the last section as the bumps upset the car just enough. This car is deserving of the "xande blue" paint job!👍
@coryclifford
Lap Time - 1:32.849
DC Score - 9.3
Review:
A fun car to drive! A little on the snug side for a few parts of the track, but manageable. Consistent car to drive lap after lap. Another great tune Cory, good job!
@randyrockstiff
Lap Time - 1:34.520
DC Score - 8.0
Review:
Large amounts of understeer due to the inside rear losing grip leads to sliding oversteer on exit. Coming into the last turn; 3 out of 4 tires were losing grip, but in a strange order. Slower lap times are due to this, weight, and the ability to cut some curbs. The car didn't appreciate being fed rumble strips, but I will say that it had the best landing on the hill. Always landed on all 4's with no bounce even on full throttle.
@Brewguy44
Lap Time - 1:32.836
DC Score - 9.5
Review:
Amazing tune! Only thing was getting kicked down to 1st gear a few times, but as long as you pointed it straight, you could easily get out of the corner with little wheel spin. I see this tune getting a lot of love as it is so easy to drive....Great job!
@Otaliema
Lap Time - 1:33.716
DC Score - 8.8
Review:
The transmission was quick and responsive. The tune was good when on the "proper" drive line, but if you wondered off, it was difficult to recover. The understeer used to tame this savage chihuahua did hurt through the last section...I was always close to the fastest ghost until the last set of turns.
@joaosoarescso
Lap Time - 1:33.384
DC Score - 8.7
Review:
The front end slid on corner entry causing me to diamond the corners and the suspension loved to get unloaded on the crests. It's not a bad tune, it just felt as if I was skating around on top of the track instead of stuck to it. Good effort and welcome.
@Ale67
Lap Time - 1:32.635
DC Score - 8.6
Review:
Holy 🤬 what a beast! The rear end loves to slide, especially if you get a single rear wheel on the rumble strip. And for some reason, even with the strong brakes, it still didn't want to slow down for corners. Most of which is solved by earlier braking points. This is what I call a "raw" tune. It's brilliant for Time Trials because there is the chance of putting out a quick lap, but it is one that I would fear in race conditions.
Thanks for the eagle eyes. Sorted now.Xande twice ? :/
How is your old school tune coming along? No problems getting it in for the deadline?Thanks Lionheart! 👍
I took the 3400S and my soon submitted Big Turbo RUF out to many races to dial them in at all my favorite tracks. Seems to be, and hopefully will be, worth it.
As long as you are ready to post by deadline day, I don't mind when you post it.I could post it right now, but would like to do some laps on more tracks today to be certain. It's a BTR after all, and is gonna need a small miracle.
So by my reckoning, here is the current top 5 for this class so far. This isn't the official scoring as Otaliema is in charge of that but i thought I would show everyone how close this event is right now.
Lap time average
Brewguy44 - 1.33.672
Coryclifford - 1.33.872
Ale67 - 1.34.205
Joaosoaresco - 1.34.373
Xande1959 - 1.34.420
DC Average
Brewguy44 - 9.57
Coryclifford - 9.47
lBt_33 - 9.07
Otaliema - 8.93
Xande1959 - 8.87
I have worked these out on a excel spreadsheet but @Otaliema is the one who does the fancy spreadsheet work which has all the information. (or will have). We have a couple more testers still to go and plenty of time for testing this group so if anyone else wants to jump in and do some testing, feel free.
Another point and shoot car like your 3400S will do just fine.👍I could post it right now, but would like to do some laps on more tracks today to be certain. It's a BTR after all, and is gonna need a small miracle.
It isn't over yet.. A lot can change depending on the testers. Trust me on this one.Aaaah, I'm bad... Didn't have a lot of time and forgot the deadline... Will do better with my RGT hopefully...
It isn't over yet.. A lot can change depending on the testers. Trust me on this one.
I really enjoyed driving your tune. Was one of my favourites in terms of DC so for me, you did a great job of it.I know it could change but I wasn't fully happy of my work, I can do better though 👍
I know it could change but I wasn't fully happy of my work, I can do better though 👍
Crazy you say? Should I sign you up thenTwo things.
I've learned that these events are about pleasing everyone. That's difficult. You need to step out of your personal comfort tuning zone. Some guys like easy to drive and some guys like point and shoot. Some like the car on rails, some like the tail end loose. To find that middle ground is the challenge. To get that smile from a tester just once is worth it.
You can take the bark out of a RUF but you cannot take out the bite.
Make that three things.
Anyone signed up as a tester for the old school class is crazy.
I really enjoyed driving your tune. Was one of my favourites in terms of DC so for me, you did a great job of it.
Don't worry about it, i think my tune is nowhere near perfection, everyone haves their own style so what's good for you isn't good for me and vice versa for example
One particular thing about your 3400 is that you feel you are on the edge every corner and in control.
That are only 3 reviews there's alot more and who knows maybe you'll be surprised like i did
FITT RUF Challenge
Sports Class
Testing Date: (Jan. 23 - Feb. 6)
Car(s):
3400S (1:33.2xx post transmission & LSD adjustments)
Regulations: (525pp/SM/95%^)
Track: Cape Ring North (2.39) 24° @ 14:30
Driving Options
Driving Line: OFF
Blind Spot Indicator: OFF
Active Steering: OFF
Traction Control: 0
Active Stability Management (ASM): OFF
Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS): 1
Skid Recovery Force (SRF): OFF
Controller Sensitivity: 5
Grip set to Real
DS3 (dpads)
"X" throttle
Square brake
Automatic Transmission
Since we do have a few new tuners/testers...
**I’m not a negative person, so if there is any criticism of a tune; it’s not meant to be an insult or a personal attack against that tuner, and if my time is slower than what you have, then that’s fair enough. These are non bias opinions based on how I drive and should be taken with a grain of salt! I respect and appreciate the time the tuners have put into their tunes and I will try everything I can to get the most out of the tune itself.**
-All tunes were ran for 2 sets of 6 consecutive laps. The fastest non-red lap time was recorded.
-With this particular track, a fast time doesn't necessarily mean a high DC score or vice versa.
@lBt_33
Lap Time - 1:33.591
DC Score - 8.5
Review:
The front was very responsive on initial turn in, but that came with a price. I struggled finding rear grip on low speed throttle, high speed exits, and braking. This edgy loose condition gave me lack of confidence in what to expect from the car led to very inconsistent lap times on this particular tight track.
@xande1959
Lap Time - 1:33.696
DC Score - 9.0
Review:
I liked this car. The transmission was unique and the rear could get away from you if provoked, but it worked to my driving style. So many sections of the track I could give it full throttle and full dpad knowing it would stick. The only thing I would ask for is more forgiveness on the rumble strips. Like Otaliemas, it would keep up with the leaders until the last section as the bumps upset the car just enough. This car is deserving of the "xande blue" paint job!👍
@coryclifford
Lap Time - 1:32.849
DC Score - 9.3
Review:
A fun car to drive! A little on the snug side for a few parts of the track, but manageable. Consistent car to drive lap after lap. Another great tune Cory, good job!
@randyrockstiff
Lap Time - 1:34.520
DC Score - 8.0
Review:
Large amounts of understeer due to the inside rear losing grip leads to sliding oversteer on exit. Coming into the last turn; 3 out of 4 tires were losing grip, but in a strange order. Slower lap times are due to this, weight, and the ability to cut some curbs. The car didn't appreciate being fed rumble strips, but I will say that it had the best landing on the hill. Always landed on all 4's with no bounce even on full throttle.
@Brewguy44
Lap Time - 1:32.836
DC Score - 9.5
Review:
Amazing tune! Only thing was getting kicked down to 1st gear a few times, but as long as you pointed it straight, you could easily get out of the corner with little wheel spin. I see this tune getting a lot of love as it is so easy to drive....Great job!
@Otaliema
Lap Time - 1:33.716
DC Score - 8.8
Review:
The transmission was quick and responsive. The tune was good when on the "proper" drive line, but if you wondered off, it was difficult to recover. The understeer used to tame this savage chihuahua did hurt through the last section...I was always close to the fastest ghost until the last set of turns.
@joaosoarescso
Lap Time - 1:33.384
DC Score - 8.7
Review:
The front end slid on corner entry causing me to diamond the corners and the suspension loved to get unloaded on the crests. It's not a bad tune, it just felt as if I was skating around on top of the track instead of stuck to it. Good effort and welcome.
@Ale67
Lap Time - 1:32.635
DC Score - 8.6
Review:
Holy 🤬 what a beast! The rear end loves to slide, especially if you get a single rear wheel on the rumble strip. And for some reason, even with the strong brakes, it still didn't want to slow down for corners. Most of which is solved by earlier braking points. This is what I call a "raw" tune. It's brilliant for Time Trials because there is the chance of putting out a quick lap, but it is one that I would fear in race conditions.