FITT Tunes The GT6 Seasonals - Concept 1 Series @ Madrid - Results pending!

[ShamrockGT]

Glad to see you find gains and figure it out quick, good job.

Your set is spot on, only 3rd and 4th a mph short.

Driving Your Original tune, looking at gears retuned to 2.000

I see Tail Light

 

[eclipsee]

I had noticed this deliberate lower FG when I was doing Toyota 86 TT where @eclipsee's gear ratio setup where instead of setting FG to usual max value, for that case it was 5.500 I believe, his instruction was that you set it at 4.300 of something like that. The theoretical top speed would be the same with any given method as long as you get all the gears identical but I knew there was more to it than that something those aliens aren't telling.lol

There we go then ...

I almost always use this kind of gearbox, this gives you good acceleration and the car rotates slightly better when turning, it's the main reason why I was 2 km/h faster at the starting line than others in the MX5 seasonal TT.

In short words, it's simply the transmission trick but the final gear set always at the minimum value.

Procedure:

1.- Use the default gearbox settings and find what's the max speed at the final of the longest straight of the track.

2.- Tweak the top speed slider in order to match the top speed you found, this step is only to find a reference point for the 6th gear (or whatever longest gear has the car)

3.- Draw a vertical imaginary line from the point where the 6th gear line ends to the letters above, take note of that letter, this will be the reference point when later you'll adjust the final gear to the minimum value.

4.- Now begins the tedious trial-error step in order to find the origin of the final gear, set the final gear in the middle, let's say at 4000 for example, top speed minimum, 6th gear slider all to the right, final gear minimum.

Does the 6th gear match with the reference point you've found?

Yes -> then 1rst and 2nd gear slider all to the left, don't touch the 3rd, 5th and 6th gear all to the right, set the 4rth gear in order to make an imaginary diagonal line from 3rd to 6th gear.

No -> Try a higher or lower final gear value and reset the top speed (one click to the right and one click to the left) , repeat step #4 until the 6th gear matches the reference point you've found, remember that the slider of the 6th gear must be all to the right and the final gear must be all to the left when you finish.

 

[JujiroMatsuda]

3.- Draw a vertical imaginary line from the point where the 6th gear line ends to the letters above, take note of that letter, this will be the reference point when later you'll adjust the final gear to the minimum value.

You mean like this? I call this an A4 paper trick.lol I just hang a folded paper on top of a monitor.

I used this method to measure up each gear's top speed by lining against those letters above. I figured this out on day 1 of getting GT6.

 

[eclipsee]

Yep, you're pointing to the "o" letter.

 

[JujiroMatsuda]

Yep, you're pointing to the "o" letter.

Thank you for unlocking your tranny optimisation to us. You sir are truly a legend

BTW, this is my gear speed note:

( D e_f i_n n_e _ d_ Automa t_i c a lly)

120 130 140 150 160 260 280

the editor wont let me line up against those letters but where you see underline each speed values correspond below. Last a is 280km/h

 

[eclipsee]

You're welcome

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

👍@DigitalBaka Thanks for a great challenge and giving me the time to get the next one set up, Hot Hatch is now up and running!

 

[ShamrockGT]

Seems I let a cat out of a bag lol

I enter in one gear set into a calc note the mph at the top of each gear, then drop the FD and adjust the gear to the speed.

I'm going to just reverse the equation and have the calc do it all for me.

 

[JujiroMatsuda]

@ShamrockGT Thank you so much for bringing up this transmission "special recipe" otherwise I wouldn't have ever questioned it. I have no personal agenda when it comes to seeking the truth, if something works I quickly change my opinion. I guess there's lot of other secrets still lying out there but we probably figured out just about all there is to it.

 

[ShamrockGT]

This makes life easier



This set dialled in to run 5 gears at Madrid.

I was just wondering why people were using max FD to start.

 

[JujiroMatsuda]

Where the hell do you get that??????

 

[Otaliema]

Looks like an excel document that has a pretty interface nicely done.

 

[ShamrockGT]

Yeah it's excel I made it myself

I got it down to entering the original gear set and choosing a new FD by reversing the equation on a new page with an adjustable FD value. This will save time for sure.

 

[MrGrado]

Well, unless I made an error, or there is some problem with test results the lap time results look like:

googledoc

 

[JujiroMatsuda]

Well, unless I made an error, or there is some problem with test results the lap time results look like:

googledoc

Wow! Impressive So basically early 94s region (1:34s) your car is good eh?

The 6th row times, are they average/mean lap times?

 

[MrGrado]

The testers times go across the spreadsheet. The tuners times are in columns, with the tunes average times below. The podium finishers are listed below that.

My car is good? Nah, the top 3 cars were ~0.5 seconds faster for me.

I'll try clean up the spreadsheet a bit.

 

[DaBomm4]

This is how I was keeping track through the event, it is the same one from @Motor City Hami's Miata challenge.
Edit, fixed it.

 

[MrGrado]

Huh! Driver choice rank pretty much matches lap time rank.

 

[Otaliema]

Huh! Driver choice rank pretty much matches lap time rank.

That's how it normally works
Top the times are generally top three drivers choice.
Very nicely done with the doc easy to read

 

[DaBomm4]

Yeah there are only 2 differences, first 2 are swapped and 5th is a tie.

@Otaliema praise goes to @Motor City Hami, all I did was edit it for the competition and change to pdf. I don't use google docs often.

 

[DigitalBaka]

Sorry folks, busy days lately. Barely had time to breathe this week. I'll post a final results doc as I usually do but, without looking, I'd guess that @MrGrado and @DaBomm4 have it correct. Thanks everyone for the tunes and the times!