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People can survive 46Gs.
https://www.medicaldaily.com/breaking-point-whats-strongest-g-force-humans-can-tolerate-369246
I think the car isn't anywhere near that.
For all the Vision GT haters: McLaren is building a real McLaren VGT
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People can survive 46Gs.
https://www.medicaldaily.com/breaking-point-whats-strongest-g-force-humans-can-tolerate-369246
I think the car isn't anywhere near that.
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- hypershock12
Really cannot understand the hatred some have towards VGTs. Mates, it's a video game, calm down.
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Not official but you can at least make a 2 series look like the VGT..
MTC design M2 widebody body kit.
MTC design M2 widebody body kit.
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- lllllSLY78lllll
I'm not sure another VGT becoming real (yep there are several already) will make any 'haters' change their mind 
It's only McLaren afterall
Personally, I don't mind the Vision GTs, I like the BMW and Bugatti ones, the Tomahawk would be better in Wipeout imo
Personally, I'd rather have a McLaren P1 GTR in the game any day
It's only McLaren afterall
Personally, I don't mind the Vision GTs, I like the BMW and Bugatti ones, the Tomahawk would be better in Wipeout imo
Personally, I'd rather have a McLaren P1 GTR in the game any day
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Meh whatever, it doesn't remove the fact that it's ****ing stupid to pit these cars against real LMP1 cars...That goddamn Tomahawk and Chaparral 2X should have never been on the series to begin with given at how much fantasy they are.
Want to see me backing up and supporting a VGT? Gimme a VGT that is mostly believable like the Audi VGT and the EF7.
Want to see me backing up and supporting a VGT? Gimme a VGT that is mostly believable like the Audi VGT and the EF7.
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I'd drive the heckNot official but you can at least make a 2 series look like the VGT..
MTC design M2 widebody body kit.
outta that.
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- Giorgos_Ferrari
Looks like you got the entire concept of Gran Turismo wrong the series was never meant to be too serious as Kaz himself has said it covers only the essentials (although in my opinion it dosen't have many essential thing for a game of its caliber in 2018 ) if you watch the very first GT Sport trailer from 2016 it says that anyone from 7 to 77 years can enjoy it only from that your "serious" argument fails i mean no matter how much i love GT how can you take a game where you can't fully run out of gas etc etc seriously? As for the esports thing every game has some kind of esports competition going on Forza for example is the official WEC esports host no offense but i don't see forza as a serious sim and the WEC competition won't make it more serious . And last but not least about your negative view on fictional stuff lets take the VGT as an example Some brand have build thair concepts like Audi Mercedes etc etc some are meant to be build like the Nissan 2020 Concept that most likely be the R36 GT-R and most of the others could be build for many different ressons/uses Peugeot has even said that this program is why they still appear on GT games . I have a question for you and everyone who beliaves the same how could you hate fiction when every single car you know/don't know was fictional once? the Ford Model T the Gallardo the Enzo the Supra etc etc were just an idea before becoming real cars in fact you are driving a fictional version of them that thair is a lot of fantasy involved sure there is real data included but lets take for example a Toyota GT86 on Project Cars and GT Rene Rast is the tester of Project Cars and lets assume Lucas Ordonez is the Tester for GT what will both have in common is that you will drive the same car BUT not how it should but rather how Rene & Lucas beliave it should so you won't achive 100% realism anyway. And lastly lets go back to the VGT thing for a minute lets say that indeed the Nissan VGT returns in 2020 as Nissan R36 GT-R exactly as it is now in GT Sport what will change besides a bit of data? if anything i can say to people "Jokes on you i drove 6 years before you".
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I'm sorry, lost focus reading that and really don't get why you need a wall of text to basically try to tell me my opinion is wrong, I just don't get your point here. It's not a fact I'm denying, we're talking taste. Many real cars I don't like either. Oh no!
I don't like them, never have. We each have our ways. But I do find it very funny that one persons opinion on one aspect I choose to not embrace offends so much here. I know this is a forum for fans. But I do know I don't have to like everything in the game to be one too. Relax, you do you. It's rife on this site, judgemental bunch.
There's no jokes to be had. I genuinely couldn't care less for them, there's enough game for me to have my own fun so hop off that high horse and allow others to have an opinion. It's not something I wish to negotiate I'm afraid. In my opinion, they're a wasted effort.
But I don't care if they go on to save the planet. Still ridiculous to me. Sorry about that!
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- Pyano1132
Cars powered by freakin' laser beams that generate downforce, pneumatics, g-force protection and aerodynamic systems that don't even exist yet. All made by passionate design teams from the world's largest automakers, that's also content exclusive to the series you can't find anywhere else.
I'm sorry, but if that doesn't excite you, your inner 5-year-old is dead.
I'm sorry, but if that doesn't excite you, your inner 5-year-old is dead.
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And that's why I find this game just that. Kids fun. I don't give two hoots about the matchmaking, looking good, none of it. I race like it's GTA even more and more because of how poor the game is for me in a competitive sense.
My inner 5 year old thrives out there in this game. Bloody hilarious random crap all the time happening, game or player made.
Hence my lack of respect for this title growing. Among other complaints that are quite common. The game is so troll friendly and easy to game, the fantasy cars just sealed the deal. It's trying to be something it can't be.
It's just a piss about for simple giggles. And for about a tenner, worth another blast. Plus it's a good looking game and I like a good drive about in a Mustang. Good times.
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- Pyano1132
Excuse the frequent same-ish posting, but I brought out some old toy cars to make a point.
Look familiar? They really scream Red Bull X and Chaparral 2X to me, those two Gran Turismo originals would look right at home on this very windowsill.
If I knew anyone who grew up with some model cars like this, a shared theme amongst all of us was the desire for them to be the real deal. That’s why those old Hot Wheels cartoons were so appealing, they represented those scale models as driveble cars.
I’m not saying this as the serious young adult who doesn’t have time for the simple things anymore, I’m saying this as the kid who would go to bed every Christmas begging Santa that there would be a 1:1 scale driveable version of my favourite toy car in the driveway on the morning of the 25th.
I don’t normally like touching upon stuff like this, because it’s subjective as all hell, but I just see so many people crying and moaning about how it’s so unrealistic or childish. But I don’t think the VGT program was ever about the realism. For me, it’s about capturing the child-like wonder we all used to have growing up. It just makes me sad that some people seem to have lost touch with that aspect of themselves.
On a side note, I was going through the Hot Wheels catalogue for this year and I realized the only new ones I was interested in ordering were the new FIA GT3 cars and some more real-life vintage race cars. I don’t know why, but it felt wrong for some reason. I feel like if directly correlates with this though.
Look familiar? They really scream Red Bull X and Chaparral 2X to me, those two Gran Turismo originals would look right at home on this very windowsill.
If I knew anyone who grew up with some model cars like this, a shared theme amongst all of us was the desire for them to be the real deal. That’s why those old Hot Wheels cartoons were so appealing, they represented those scale models as driveble cars.
I’m not saying this as the serious young adult who doesn’t have time for the simple things anymore, I’m saying this as the kid who would go to bed every Christmas begging Santa that there would be a 1:1 scale driveable version of my favourite toy car in the driveway on the morning of the 25th.
I don’t normally like touching upon stuff like this, because it’s subjective as all hell, but I just see so many people crying and moaning about how it’s so unrealistic or childish. But I don’t think the VGT program was ever about the realism. For me, it’s about capturing the child-like wonder we all used to have growing up. It just makes me sad that some people seem to have lost touch with that aspect of themselves.
On a side note, I was going through the Hot Wheels catalogue for this year and I realized the only new ones I was interested in ordering were the new FIA GT3 cars and some more real-life vintage race cars. I don’t know why, but it felt wrong for some reason. I feel like if directly correlates with this though.
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Ah yes, another graduate from the VBR school of undervaluing or negating people’s opinions I see.
I don’t see how I’m distorting or misrepresenting someone else’s argument to boost my own. I’m providing a defence against people who say the VGT program is childish and “kiddie” by saying it’s ok to be that way. Nothing more, nothing less.
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If people respond with simple one liners they arent worth your time.
If you want Hot Wheels cars there's a full DLC available on the other side of the pond.
I look at the whole VGT program as a car designers' "what if". On one hand you stuff like the BMW Toyota Supra Mini Mitsubishi Subaru VGTs which are almost production ready bordering on show cars. This is kind of boring.
I feel like whether we like it or not its what PD wants to do for these generations. They will be still here on the PS5.
When I look up VGTs you see that "Gran Turismo" gets mentioned as a central part of car manufacturers websites.
This is worth money to PD. This legitamises the game.
Do you see any other company that has such a relationship? And at the end of the day, they scarecly care what the end user thinks, they care about what capital they can get with the companies that support this game and the next game.
Do I care about TAG Heuer? Nah I hate their crap however these company to company relations is what's important to PD.
If you want Hot Wheels cars there's a full DLC available on the other side of the pond.
I look at the whole VGT program as a car designers' "what if". On one hand you stuff like the BMW Toyota Supra Mini Mitsubishi Subaru VGTs which are almost production ready bordering on show cars. This is kind of boring.
I feel like whether we like it or not its what PD wants to do for these generations. They will be still here on the PS5.
When I look up VGTs you see that "Gran Turismo" gets mentioned as a central part of car manufacturers websites.
This is worth money to PD. This legitamises the game.
Do you see any other company that has such a relationship? And at the end of the day, they scarecly care what the end user thinks, they care about what capital they can get with the companies that support this game and the next game.
Do I care about TAG Heuer? Nah I hate their crap however these company to company relations is what's important to PD.
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None of the VGTs add value to my gaming experience. There's too few real cars in the game to invest resources modelling the make believe.
As previously mentioned in the thread, let's not suddenly equate every new concept car with VGTs either.
As previously mentioned in the thread, let's not suddenly equate every new concept car with VGTs either.
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- Giorgos_Ferrari
Ahhh you didn't get it.... but im not surprised since you got the entire concept of the series wrong. Anyway what i wrote wasen't a "wall of text " it was a thought out not very well written (im sorry english is not my first language ) argument to what your statements that being said 1. I am not trying to say your opinion is right or wrong because its neither of the two . 2. You didn't offend me in the slightest why would i be offended for a game? 3. Im not against anyone having an opinion.
4. "Judgemental bunch" Well im sorry but if you haven"t notice you will be judged/critisized in this world since day 1 and judging by your triggered response to my reply you can't take it . "There's no jokes to be had" Well sure not if you are dead serious about stuff that are not meant to be . "Hop of that high horse " What high horse ? if anything you have a high horse and attitude towords anything different that can be seen from and i quote "i don't care if they go on to save the planet " This shows how close minded and stubborn you really are i bet you are one of those guys who are against electric cars because they don't sound good.
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Obviating that there are development teams that are in charge of the VGTs , who work on the design, on how they work step by step, and when it comes to alternative power sources are based on what can theoretically work (scientifc, not kiddie), so if friend, say they look like hot wheels is a way to ridicule rather sad a project that seeks to awaken the creativity of the same people who take out "normal" cars.
The VGTs project is very solid, of course you're right that you do not like it, but lying and defame about them is pretty sad.
I'm sorry if it offends you, but you can not start a debate from a premise that is incorrect (since you are committing a fallacy)
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And? Assume away.
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I personally like the Vision GT cars, as it shows futur possibilities and make Manufacturers really think out the box. And in addition to that, many remind me of my Hot Wheel Cars
But to be honest, I only like them in the Gr.X class, as many of them really don't fit in the class.
One example is the VW VGT in the Gr.3 class. One essentiall rule in the GT3 class is to have a roof. And the VW VGT doesn't have one.
And I personally really don't like the VW Beetle Gr.3 as it really looks out of place, as the GT3 class contains Gran Touring (GT) cars. I wouldn't call a Beetle a GT. I would have liked it, if they would have used a Beetle in the gr.4 class.
Also the Citroen concept car really doesn't fit into the Gr.4 class, as its Aerodynamics are really out of place for a GT4 class. Look at that Citroen and than look at the VW Scirocco. That's really weird looking and in Reallife the Scirroco or any other Gr.4 class wouldn't have a chance against the Citroen as it's a spaceship against the other cars. It doesn't fit the rules of the GT4 class.
The complete opposite is the Bugatti VGT in the GR.1 class. Aerdynamic-wise it wouldn't stand a chance against all those highly aerodynamic cars and it doesn't even fit the rules of the LMP1 class.
Things like that ruin the fun and immersion for me personally. That's why I mostly like the VGT cars only in the Gr.X class.
(having the possibility to choose specific cars as opponents would be a benefit for everyone)
But to be honest, I only like them in the Gr.X class, as many of them really don't fit in the class.
One example is the VW VGT in the Gr.3 class. One essentiall rule in the GT3 class is to have a roof. And the VW VGT doesn't have one.
And I personally really don't like the VW Beetle Gr.3 as it really looks out of place, as the GT3 class contains Gran Touring (GT) cars. I wouldn't call a Beetle a GT. I would have liked it, if they would have used a Beetle in the gr.4 class.
Also the Citroen concept car really doesn't fit into the Gr.4 class, as its Aerodynamics are really out of place for a GT4 class. Look at that Citroen and than look at the VW Scirocco. That's really weird looking and in Reallife the Scirroco or any other Gr.4 class wouldn't have a chance against the Citroen as it's a spaceship against the other cars. It doesn't fit the rules of the GT4 class.
The complete opposite is the Bugatti VGT in the GR.1 class. Aerdynamic-wise it wouldn't stand a chance against all those highly aerodynamic cars and it doesn't even fit the rules of the LMP1 class.
Things like that ruin the fun and immersion for me personally. That's why I mostly like the VGT cars only in the Gr.X class.
(having the possibility to choose specific cars as opponents would be a benefit for everyone)
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I personally like the Vision GT cars, as it shows futur possibilities and make Manufacturers really think out the box. And in addition to that, many remind me of my Hot Wheel Cars
But to be honest, I only like them in the Gr.X class, as many of them really don't fit in the class.
One example is the VW VGT in the Gr.3 class. One essentiall rule in the GT3 class is to have a roof. And the VW VGT doesn't have one.
And I personally really don't like the VW Beetle Gr.3 as it really looks out of place, as the GT3 class contains Gran Touring (GT) cars. I wouldn't call a Beetle a GT. I would have liked it, if they would have used a Beetle in the gr.4 class.
Also the Citroen concept car really doesn't fit into the Gr.4 class, as its Aerodynamics are really out of place for a GT4 class. Look at that Citroen and than look at the VW Scirocco. That's really weird looking and in Reallife the Scirroco or any other Gr.4 class wouldn't have a chance against the Citroen as it's a spaceship against the other cars. It doesn't fit the rules of the GT4 class.
The complete opposite is the Bugatti VGT in the GR.1 class. Aerdynamic-wise it wouldn't stand a chance against all those highly aerodynamic cars and it doesn't even fit the rules of the LMP1 class.
Things like that ruin the fun and immersion for me personally. That's why I mostly like the VGT cars only in the Gr.X class.
(having the possibility to choose specific cars as opponents would be a benefit for everyone)
It's maybe a little pedantic, but none of the classes in GT do, or claim to reflect real life FIA or SRO regs. Gr.1 contains LMP1's sure, but that doesn't mean the imaginary regs in place in the game wouldn't allow other things, similar to the idea of VLN or Creventic Classes.
I know what you're saying though. I wish they'd sub divided Gr.X so more sensible races could be had with the VGT's.
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GR.3 does for the most part.
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For the most part perhaps, but the point is, it's simply a "Group 3" class not an FIA GT3 class, so it doesn't matter if certain Gr.3 cars would or wouldn't meet FIA GT3 regs.
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- Giorgos_Ferrari
True although i beliave it should to a point because look at GR.1 & GR.4.
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Not sure I follow? Gr.1 and Gr.4 include additional cars that do not compete in the real world, as does Gr.3. It doesn't matter which class you pick, they're effectively 'virtual' classes defined by PD.
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